VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[dregon87]

Need help, a choice to help Sage or a picnic with Jill, where will it lead?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Fairly argued points even if I disagree, or perhaps more accurately think that certain aspects of my argument were misunderstood.

As for this, a couple of responses. First, on the comparison of the Quinn/lack of M&J scenes, the problem there is that the game made the latter a central storyline. I can't repeat this enough, but if the cliffhanger wasn't about Maya's homophobic father. Because of that decision, their storyline is just a part of the larger storyline than the Quinn stuff. It is what drives Maya's need to secure her tuition costs is because of her father's threat because of her sexuality. Maya's whole character arc, stakes and all that are tied to her being gay, at which point it does become a glaring omission in the game that she never shows absolutely no interest in women and only expresses desire to have sex with a guy. That is what created the narrative dissonance and it why I'm baffled that there is litereally no attempt to address that with the progression of the game. If the story was just about how Maya was broke and needed money, I don't personally think that there would be that much room for criticism, even if it was still about turning the lesbian, as it wouldn't so inherently with the foundational struggle. Similarly if that cliffhanger only happened if the MC was in that relationship, then again I don't there's as much as criticism as at least had the bare effort with that one scene.

This kind of connects to the wish fulfillment thing, as I do agree that is what these games are. I'm not expecting real life. Rather my criticism is that within the story the game chooses to tell, it is doing a really bad foundational work with it. It is actually kind of odd, and I haven't been able to figure it out, but there was no other LI the game forced on the player like it did with M&J, yet it is the most lazy with their storyline that it also made a central storyline that you can't avoid. Just utterly baffling.

This isn't by the way the only narrative misstep as I do think in Episode 6 things are really spinning out of control. For example having the cliffhanger be about Mona losing her grant was so random that I just started laughing there. Again for similar reasons as my complaint about M&J as it was this grand moment where the game really hadn't done the work to justify it.

The reason why the M&J storyline seems connected to the central storyline is because it is. Maya wanted to join the HOTs for the promise of "free tuition" and we as the players know what that would have involved because it's connected to Quinn's machinations which seem to be what the main storyline is centred around and where things will eventually come to a head. Now Josy has also joined the mix and, based on the Ep 7 preview, may very well stay with the HOTs which keeps these characters connected to Quinn and what she's doing. The MC remains connected to M&J via not just his DIK brothers, Derek and Tommy respectively, but primarily because this character is OK to be friends with them regardless of how much or how little he did with them.

DPC has certainly made this connection to the 2 of them a central focus because it ties in to the main storyline that's going on in the background, and you can't really have them be connected to that without also dealing with Maya's issues, so this isn't so much a "mis-step" as it is necessary, even if some people don't want it to be.

Also, as I said, just because Maya isn't expressing desire and attraction for girls all the time doesn't mean that she doesn't have this attraction. We know she likes Josy and is in a relationship with her and that's enough, it doesn't really require much more elaboration than that or for Maya to constantly express it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Need help, a choice to help Sage or a picnic with Jill, where will it lead?

none of us know.

apparently closes the route of the girl you neglect, but that's not necessarily the case.
Go to the one you prefer and cross your fingers for the other.

The picnic with Jill makes no sense to me, but that's personal taste.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Need help, a choice to help Sage or a picnic with Jill, where will it lead?

Well, the Jill date leads to getting cockblocked so this choice could lock out a lot of lewd scenes and relationships going forward, but it's difficult to say exactly where this choice will lead on either side, but I feel that the Sage choice probably won't have much of an impact either way.

 

[Spuds18]

Need help, a choice to help Sage or a picnic with Jill, where will it lead?

To individual scenes and RP +/- of course !

Side note : Why would you choose Jill over Sage though? Why would anyone?

 

[dregon87]

none of us know.

apparently closes the route of the girl you neglect, but that's not necessarily the case.
Go to the one you prefer and cross your fingers for the other.

The picnic with Jill makes no sense to me, but that's personal taste.

Well, the Jill date leads to getting cockblocked so this choice could lock out a lot of lewd scenes and relationships going forward, but it's difficult to say exactly where this choice will lead on either side, but I feel that the Sage choice probably won't have much of an impact either way.

Thank you!

To individual scenes and RP +/- of course !

Side note : Why would you choose Jill over Sage though? Sage is <3

I want to choose Sage because she has a cold and it's shitty to be in this state alone + I'm on the way of Maya and Josy, and when the choice arises between Sage or M&J, it will be easier to throw Sage away than from Jill, since Jill will tie it up by being the first person in her life, to whom she is so open and it is sad to throw her, I would rather give up both Jill and Sage, but it's too late, too much to replay.

 

[TripleV]

it seems clear to me that basically DPC agrees with Maya's father, which is not necessarily DPC's idea, but the idea that at least he believes his players have. but let's also say that a porn game is not the right place to be progressive and feminist.

In the end what is a lesbian if not a straight girl who hasn't tried yet? (not my opinion - sarcasm)

if Josy had never been admitted to BR, Maya's father would have found MC in the room with her, which in absolute terms maybe wouldn't have pleased him, but for sure would have given him a sigh of relief

on the gestures of affection between Maya and Josy, however, I reiterate (I know I do it often) practically no female character has visible attitudes of affection towards other males that are not MCs, with the exception of Arieth and Derek's conquests


BADIK is a very comforting story, despite DPC's reputation....

That last point about affection is fair, although there is that Johnny Boy and his girlfriend. And there was that weird storyline with Dany that might be heading somewhere, hopefully. Also I do hope the black guy DIK ends up in a relationship as he is probably my favorite character in the game.

On the first point, I do think there are porn games are somewhat progressive, but I also don't expect such things from these games. However, thinking on from this context, I think one of the reasons I personally find BaD so confusing is that I don't really know what the game wants to be or say, unlike with a lot of other games where it is easier to parse out. Because of that, I think it also allows more room for different interpretations as you can draw these examples that seem contrast each other at which point it becomes which one do you give more weight to. And this isn't to argue that my view is more correct, even if I do defend it, but rather I do get why there are diverging views.

And that very line last line is absolutely true. It is also why I find the warning at the beginning of the game currently more amusing than serious.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

However, thinking on from this context, I think one of the reasons I personally find BaD so confusing is that I don't really know what the game wants to be or say, unlike with a lot of other games where it is easier to parse out.

I don't think DPC is trying to say anything. He's just telling a story. The story in this case is Animal House with the soap drama amped up and crime drama thrown into the mix. Its popcorn fluff.

 

[godkingxerxes]

To individual scenes and RP +/- of course !

Side note : Why would you choose Jill over Sage though? Why would anyone?

Some guys prefer chicks with dicks.

On the first point, I do think there are porn games are somewhat progressive, but I also don't expect such things from these games. However, thinking on from this context, I think one of the reasons I personally find BaD so confusing is that I don't really know what the game wants to be or say, unlike with a lot of other games where it is easier to parse out. Because of that, I think it also allows more room for different interpretations as you can draw these examples that seem contrast each other at which point it becomes which one do you give more weight to. And this isn't to argue that my view is more correct, even if I do defend it, but rather I do get why there are diverging views.

That's kind of my problem at times with this game, you get given the option to shape your character but then he goes off and does something or says something that he wouldn't say based on how you built the character up. It makes the narrative quite confusing.

No matter how many DIK or CHICK choices one makes, you are locked in to being a bitch.

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

Some guys prefer chicks with dicks.



That's kind of my problem at times with this game, you get given the option to shape your character but then he goes off and does something or says something that he wouldn't say based on how you built the character up. It makes the narrative quite confusing.

No matter how many DIK or CHICK choices one makes, you are locked in to being a bitch.

One of the worst things is how the MC acts with Maya and Josy after he finds out they were dating. I would very much like a choice there to not act like that. It's cringe af and makes MC look like a little bitch. Atleast in my eyes.

 

[seymore.the.duck]

Hi,

I'm on Mac and i tried to install the Being a DIK Walkthrough+Cheat Mod [v0.6.1][scrappy].

I did a next steps:
1. I downloaded and installed renpy v7.4.4 program
2. I set the BAD path in this program
3. I unpacked the mod and copied the contains of game folder of mod
4. I opened the game folder of BAD with renpy
5. I pasted the files in the game folder and i lunched the BAD

Unfortunatelly, i got a lot of exceptions. Let see the attached file.

Does anybody have idea? How to solve it?

 

[AchedCroissant]

Does your guys save files look like this?

It is very messy for me, I only have ordered by routes

M&J Route
Jill Route
Sage Route
Isabella Route

 

[imcharliebrown]

Has anyone of you tried to make a loser route? like you have no relationship, you fought with everyone and you also have poor grades in your homework .. i would like to know how the plot goes on like this ..

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Has anyone of you tried to make a loser route? like you have no relationship, you fought with everyone and you also have poor grades in your homework .. i would like to know how the plot goes on like this ..

Why would anyone want to play a route that just feels like real life?

 

[Daxos89]

Does your guys save files look like this?

I have 8 saves all at the end of ep 6.
M&J route with Maya focus
M&J route with Josy focus
Jill route
Bella route
Jill & Bella route (curious how this will turn out)
Sage route with HOTs
A Mess route which is my 1st playtrough doing whatever
And a Good Mythical route where MC just asks the age old question, Will she fuck?

 

[Casmyr]

Why would anyone want to play a route that just feels like real life?

Maybe your real life but not mine im tri alpha as fck

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Maybe your real life but not mine im tri alpha as fck

So you're a roided-up closet gay?

 

[Casmyr]

So you're a roided-up closet gay?

Nah I'm as cool as ice. I'm big A because ill fuck your girl and I got the moves

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(Its the anthony dance gif)

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Nah I'm as cool as ice. I'm big A because ill fuck your girl and I got the moves

You must be registered to see the links

(Its the anthony dance gif)

Can confirm. I'm still traumatized by the hot sauce and rice event.

 

[Ennoch]

That happened quite a while ago! PTSD developed? Poor fappy