VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Heycock]

I am not following your discussion but technically the MC isnt cheating on anyone by fucking everyone on the side since there's no official BF/GF thing going on. I guess maybe being in a tri-relationship with M&J counts like that, but lets be honest, it truly doesnt. My hope is that in this episode we can kind of get that part somewhat settled since its been kind of left to the side since episode 4.

I said he would do it, not that he did it. The thing is that he show such a lack of morals that i dont think that monogamy will refrain him. Ofc you can still argue that its all about playthrough, but that bring some problems with: how you can talk about a story in wich there is no canonical story? Since everything can be choosed by the player. There is no cannon couse MC had sex with Quin and didnt have sex with Quinn, for example. That makes every argument pointless. So i asume that every sexual partner is canonical.
But even if tecnically didn't cheat... he kind of does. In wich universe you can have sex with a girl like Maya and another like Quinn, when they hate each other, and yet everyone will be cool with that? Or have sex with Bella and go after Jill. Normal girls will react like Ashley, even if Derek didnt even kiss her. As long as they start to develop feelings for the MC, he is being selfish with thoose girls.

 

[TrainHardnett]

Did I use the term vandalise? I don't think so.... but even if I did it doesn't seem to be the focus of what I'm saying.

I don't care about the legal discourse, maybe Jill should, but I care 0.

Jill tells MC something about her past, that everything went wrong with Rusty because he felt he had to behave differently with his friends, and MC does exactly the same thing, and even without the blackmail it would have put Jill in a very complicated position, the girl of the guy who made the super funny joke.

If you put yourself and your property at risk, it's a brave thing to do, but if you don't risk anything and others pay, where would be the bravery?
I assure you that you can grow up even without doing it, doing it when you're a kid allows you not to pay the consequences, but someone always pays them, always. I didn't say that MC deserves the pillory, but he certainly doesn't deserve Jill's trust.

And I'm always talking about the best MC possible, let alone the 'average' one.

Not in east europe, you fuck up, you are getting your ass beat with whatever is available. You learn consequences real quick.

 

[sorco2003]

Selling a potentially large amount of what she's passing off as birth control pills could be worth a lot to her because she sets the price, and it could explain why she felt she needed to buy coke from Buddy to make up for that loss. She also likely wouldn't have thought or foreseen any seriously big consequences for the DIKs and probably figured that, given who Rusty is, they'd just get a slap on the wrist which is kind of what they got, so it's not like she thought or expected she'd lose the DIKs as a source of income.

Quinn was originally going with the idea of selling weed to preps. She agrees to the cocaine when Rick insists (i.e., you could say that a deal for weed would replace the deal with Dawe).
But that's just another way of looking at it. Personally I don't think Quinn is, but maybe I'm giving her my ideas and I wouldn't be seeing the game ideas.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Not in east europe, you fuck up, you are getting your ass beat with whatever is available. You learn consequences real quick.

too bad then that DPc set BADIK in Duckburg.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

And it still doesn't make it vandalism, there was neither deliberate or malicious intent to damage/de-face the prep house as defined by law, unlike what the Alphas did to the DIK mansion or whoever busted it at the end of 5. Now that is a criminal act surpassing anything the DIKs have done to that point and then some. I mentioned the eggs because the DIKs threw them at Tybalt when the sprinkler system kicked in and everyone went outside. MC is definitely not a saint but he is not the face of evil you are trying to portray him either. The later in itself is hypocritical as this is fiction and will always remain such, taking plot driver liberties in spite of realism will always be a thing, taking it too seriously is never a good thing. Plus the amount of plot holes and bad writing in this game is unreal anyway.

FYI I have done some pretty dumb shit when I was younger some of it was way worse then this, its part of growing up and learning what consequences are.

The law does not allow intent to be inferred. It has to be proven. There are statutory degrees of damages that require different levels of proof. The simple explanation for criminal negligence is that someone knew or should have known that their actions could result in damages to persons or property. Sprinklers damage property. Eggs damage paint. Sewage damages property. The actions don't have to cause actual damages to meet that standard. That's why criminal trespassing is a crime even if all one does is enter and leave the property. It's a statutory crime. The only burden of proof is proving the person was where they had no legal defense for being.

In short, trying to compare who did what and which was worse is fucking stupid because it's a game. It's not real and the law cannot be applied realistically.

 

[OFT]

you are my brother, the only one I would accept at my side

I can't stay mad at you...bring it in...*bro hug*

 

[dalli_x]

Quinn was originally going with the idea of selling weed to preps. She agrees to the cocaine when Rich insists (i.e., you could say that a deal for weed would replace the deal with Dawe).
But that's just another way of looking at it. Personally I don't think Quinn is, but maybe I'm giving her my ideas and I wouldn't be seeing the game ideas.

And again, a question arises that no one has asked before. Rich wants coke. It seems to me that he already has experience with it.

So where did he get his coke from before?

This strongly suggests that there is a second drug dealer involved.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

At first I think I remember that Quinn says he has an arrangement with the Jocks, i.e. not only Dawe, although we only know explicitly that the consumers are Chad and Dawe. Getting Chad off his back if he is not their buyer would make sense to secure the deal with Dawe. But it's not something that I can see very clearly, maybe I lack imagination or I missed some information.

SHe did but if you remember she also lied to Tommy and told him she wasn't selling to the Tri-Alphas.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

I said he would do it, not that he did it. The thing is that he show such a lack of morals that i dont think that monogamy will refrain him. Ofc you can still argue that its all about playthrough, but that bring some problems with: how you can talk about a story in wich there is no canonical story? Since everything can be choosed by the player. There is no cannon couse MC had sex with Quin and didnt have sex with Quinn, for example. That makes every argument pointless. So i asume that every sexual partner is canonical.
But even if tecnically didn't cheat... he kind of does. In wich universe you can have sex with a girl like Maya and another like Quinn, when they hate each other, and yet everyone will be cool with that? Or have sex with Bella and go after Jill. Normal girls will react like Ashley, even if Derek didnt even kiss her. As long as they start to develop feelings for the MC, he is being selfish with thoose girls.

Well, IDK how DPC will handle it but I hope its better than the way he did with AL by pushing the MC into a tri-relationship. I am pretty sure eventually he'll close some path if you did certain things or dont break off others, like M&J or Jade choice, pretty sure the same will happen for Jill and Bella (in a similar scenario with Triss and Yen from the Witcher 3). But IDK, we'll see, I trust DPC has a plan and I am pretty sure it wont lead to a harem scenario.

 

[felicemastronzo]

And again, a question arises that no one has asked before. Rick wants coke. It seems to me that he already has experience with it.

So where did he get his coke from before?

This strongly suggests that there is a second drug dealer involved.

It seems to me that RIck is making a rant, like someone in a pub asking for the strongest cocktail they have and then ending up throwing up

when Quinn gives it to him, he doesn't seem to have any idea what to do with it.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

And again, a question arises that no one has asked before. Rick wants coke. It seems to me that he already has experience with it.

So where did he get his coke from before?

This strongly suggests that there is a second drug dealer involved.

He doesn't want it because he's done it before, he just thinks it's trendy.

More evidence of DPC basing this game off 80s movies.

 

[Heycock]

Well, IDK how DPC will handle it but I hope its better than the way he did with AL by pushing the MC into a tri-relationship. I am pretty sure eventually he'll close some path if you did certain things or dont break off others, like M&J or Jade choice, pretty sure the same will happen for Jill and Bella (in a similar scenario with Triss and Yen from the Witcher 3). But IDK, we'll see, I trust DPC has a plan and I am pretty sure it wont lead to a harem scenario.

I like it AL, sad but dramatical. Well he doesn't have to fix it. It works couse is a porn game, so most of us are more than willing to sacrifice some coherence for some sex. I agree with you that he has has a plan (i think he said something about that) and defenetely will not end in a harem.

 

[DaBigD]

he doesnt have to lead to a harem. when basically any replay of the game you can take a whole new path, this imo is dpc's evolution of game writing, evolved from AL where at the end of that game, you had a choice, her or her. and that was it. in his new evolution (badik) you have 5 choice endings maybe even a 6th or 7th, if you count trouples. 8 if you break the norms and run away with quinn.

in AL i broke the norm, had a big thing for smurf

 

[felicemastronzo]

he doesnt have to lead to a harem. when basically any replay of the game you can take a whole new path, this imo is dpc's evolution of game writing, evolved from AL where at the end of that game, you had a choice, her or her. and that was it. in his new evolution (badik) you have 5 choice endings maybe even a 6th or 7th, if you count trouples. 8 if you break the norms and run away with quinn.

I don't think it's that big of a difference... BADIK is a much larger game so the choices will be more diluted, but in the end the structure is always the same, there is not much to invent. you know the girls, choose one, and take it to the end

there are betrayals that go unpunished, others that will have consequences, others that could give a game over

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Well, IDK how DPC will handle it but I hope its better than the way he did with AL by pushing the MC into a tri-relationship. I am pretty sure eventually he'll close some path if you did certain things or dont break off others, like M&J or Jade choice, pretty sure the same will happen for Jill and Bella (in a similar scenario with Triss and Yen from the Witcher 3). But IDK, we'll see, I trust DPC has a plan and I am pretty sure it wont lead to a harem scenario.

A harem is certainly not happening (unless the game is set in Utah), but I at least hope they allow for a throuple ending this time. It sucked when there was no way to get that in AL, but unlike AL, we're much further along with it in this game in terms of sexual activity and moments between all 3 and we're likely to get more, so to then turn around after all that and deny people that ending no matter what choices they make, or to force another unwinnable choice, would be a huge mistake.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Yes, those were the days when everyone had white noses.

Yep, coke was the rich kid drug of choice in the 1980's. Every movie had someone doing coke with a rolled up hundred dollar bill.

Charlie Sheen still thinks it's the 1980's.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yep, coke was the rich kid drug of choice in the 1980's. Every movie had someone doing coke with a rolled up hundred dollar bill.

Charlie Sheen still thinks it's the 1980's.

2011 called, it wants its topical reference back.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

A harem is certainly not happening (unless the game is set in Utah), but I at least hope they allow for a throuple ending this time. It sucked when there was no way to get that in AL, but unlike AL, we're much further along with it in this game in terms of sexual activity and moments between all 3 and we're likely to get more, so to then turn around after all that and deny people that ending no matter what choices they make, or to force another unwinnable choice, would be a huge mistake.

I think DPC will keep the game real enough that some things won't be possible. My question is when do the choices start mattering? Up til now it seems like no matter what the MC does everything is copacetic.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

2011 called, it wants its topical reference back.

Fine. It can have it back when the MC gets a real haircut.

 

[Mafjozi]

anyone hav a specific date and hour when this shit releasing,no other game is updating cuz they wait for this one to fade off