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Bruv you're forgetting that Maya getting a tongue piercing was Josy's idea for improving their sex life, which she ditched after she saw how much it hurt on Maya. If anything Josy is the Active in the relationship, it's just that when it comes to her father Maya is extremely scared.
maybe , not anymore though .
she may have let Maya control everything so she can be close to MC .
she's like a lost puppy right now . even if you play Maya centered game
she's right there for him all MC got to do is say "ok"

the only thing i saw affected her was if you admit to relationship with Jill to her ( you get -2RP)
i'm guessing she doesnt want MC to move on to someone else .

Not gonna lie, that's one of my problems with Josy, still like her obvsiously, but Josy making Maya get a body modification for her (Josy) and then peacing out when it was her turn was some weak shit.
did they do it themselves or in saloon ? i didnt pay much attention to that story admittedly
 

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did they do it themselves or in saloon ? i didnt pay much attention to that story admittedly
It was very early in the game, but if I remember correctly, all I remember is them saying there was a lot of blood and Josy who was supposed to go next pussied out.
Will check in-game, and post the conversation here.
 

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and in that case Josy also had to do it and then gave up. because Josy has only one word: "maybe". :ROFLMAO:
Josy and Maya are quite different, Josy is the weak point, we can see that she could easily forget about Maya when she wants something.
The MC just at the start of the game or the Hot membreship, it seems more important to her to be a Hot than to be Maya girlfriend, you can clearly see that she was not pleased to get away with Maya.
For me she is just like Camilla and i would not be surprised to find her fucking for money at the glory hole in a short time. :p

Ohhh shit by the way i have completely forgotten about Camilla, she must still be sucking me in the uppert floor during the party, i had to quit quickly to take care of the diner 5 hours ago, my god my dick must have completely been peeled off right now !!! o_O
 

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I'm missing the point a little...


how could Vinnie have personally uploaded Cathe's photo? they would have noticed him going in or out, so what would Nick be doing in the library?

the photo would have been taken in the Jocks gym, Dawe hates Cathe, but that would be evidence against Vinnie?
I'm thinking the same as you mate & I think that we need to know first who is the person hanging around outside of the diks mansion at night cuz i have the feeling that this person is conected somehow with the Katy's inccident
 
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Josy and Maya are quite different, Josy is the weak point, we can see that she could easily forget about Maya when she wants something.
The MC just at the start of the game or the Hot membreship, it seems more important to her to be a Hot than to be Maya girlfriend, you can clearly see that she was not pleased to get away with Maya.
For me she is just like Camilla and i would not be surprised to find her fucking for money at the glory hole in a short time. :p
They have two different weaknesses.

Maya is helpless, she always needs someone to help her, to at least push her to do something. her natural environment is in her room in the dark watching a movie on her phone.

Josy, on the other hand, is unresolved, she always wants to do something, but always ends up giving up. she had already given up going to the HOTs, only the surprise visit of Maya's father allowed her to do so.

A very bad couple, of course both of them can, and hopefully will, grow character-wise.
 

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They have two different weaknesses.

Maya is helpless, she always needs someone to help her, to at least push her to do something. her natural environment is in her room in the dark watching a movie on her phone.

Josy, on the other hand, is unresolved, she always wants to do something, but always ends up giving up. she had already given up going to the HOTs, only the surprise visit of Maya's father allowed her to do so.

A very bad couple, of course both of them can, and hopefully will, grow character-wise.
Yes but they are just teens who try to be adults, two spoiled kids who don't have any clue about the harsh realities of our world.
Maya has been overprotected by her father and doesn't know much about life and for Josy she just had the life of a middle class kid in a small town.
They are no so interesting characters anyway, the only thing that makes them less annoying it's that you can have a threesome experience that's all.
 

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In fact in this game you don't really find very interesting female characters, of course they are funny, there is plenty of fucking, maybe Quinn is the most complex and i love Riona too.
In my last playthrough i followed Quinn and she is quite interesting, seeing her cuddle with me on her bed when i was high made my heart melt. I would love to love her and take her out of her shit life, we can see that she had to fight hard to get to this college coming from a family of junkies, forced to deal and sell her body to pay for her tuition.
She is a bitch, but i have a lot of respect for her, she is strong and ready to anything to win.
She is not a spoiled brat or daddy's daughter.
And i also like Lily for the same reasons.
 
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Josy and Maya are quite different, Josy is the weak point, we can see that she could easily forget about Maya when she wants something.
The MC just at the start of the game or the Hot membreship, it seems more important to her to be a Hot than to be Maya girlfriend, you can clearly see that she was not pleased to get away with Maya.
For me she is just like Camilla and i would not be surprised to find her fucking for money at the glory hole in a short time. :p
not a chance ... shes nothing like Camilla she's more like Lily

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Josy has street smarts ( she grew up with Tommy)
and on top of it she is super charismatic . she already won some HOTs over even though
she has maya/tommy baggage

dont remember specifc moment i realised how clever she was - id have to do whole new Josy playthrough

(admittedly she doesnt use those skills much or at least we dont know she does)


she gets stupid around MC and she has less book-smarts from all 5 girls
but i dont see what that has to do with glory holes
 

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Yes but they are just teens who try to be adults, two spoiled kids who don't have any clue about the harsh realities of our world.
Maya has been overprotected by her father and doesn't know much about life and for Josy she just had the life of a middle class kid in a small town.
They are no so interesting characters anyway, the only thing that makes them less annoying it's that you can have a threesome experience that's all.
I do not agree

I don't find any of the LIs to be the perfect girl, the soulmate (at least mine of course), but I do find them all more or less interesting, not in the same way, not at the same pace (e.g. Jill is in a vertical slump, Maya is rising)
 
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I do not agree

I don't find any of the LIs to be the perfect girl, the soulmate (at least mine of course), but I do find them all more or less interesting, not in the same way, not at the same pace (e.g. Jill is in a vertical slump, Maya is rising)
yea i like em all too . Kukipett just has a thing for bad girls with wicked hair style :)

maybe if Josy dyes hair buns pink he'll come around ;):ROFLMAO:
 
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Aw come on, Jill's not bad ; she's a child. She still thinks in good and bad ; she wants a perfect first time, she believes someone like Tybalt simply because she's naive af and doesn't see how manipulative he can be (cause everyone has some good in them)
She needs to grow up and "find her voice" like my wife said but she's not bad
 
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not a chance ... shes nothing like Camilla she's more like Lily

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Josy has street smarts ( she grew up with Tommy)
and on top of it she is super charismatic . she already won some HOTs over even though
she has maya/tommy baggage

dont remember specifc moment i realised how clever she was - id have to do whole new Josy playthrough

(admittedly she doesnt use those skills much or at least we dont know she does)

she gets stupid around MC and she has less book-smarts from all 5 girls
but i dont see what that has to do with glory holes
yeah i cant disagree , its not but
it's still a toss up between Josy and Jill because Josy is just as bad .

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she lets maya decide on everything (Josy moving out of dorm was forced by maya's dad )
She may love Maya but she's in love with MC . she doesnt get what she wants ether.

I rarely responds to statements here now days but bro don't mind my tone do you relay have any idea what are you talking about.

1. The point you trying to make is completely 180 degree because her action affection toward make her took that action.

2. Maya and tommy is not a baggage for her. Go to dik party at daughter - daughter game. That will close your argument.

3. If you even want to know how well written and deep that character goes. Stay or make only friend with all 5 li (Sage, M & J, Bella and Jill : Most important requirement for what will she say to mc at pool in c7) Josy conversation with mc is one the finest example that will show, she deserve way better then what she have.

4. "she gets stupid around MC and she has less book-smarts from all 5 girls :" Are you for real men. When did that happen. In regarding that issue, I will only give c7 example :
1. Go to main point num. 3.
2. When mc have conversation with josy in heather room.
3. C7 start and Josy has to explain reality to her feminist friend.
4. Mc and Josy conversation at dik mansion.

5. "she lets maya decide on everything" : Go to c7 where mc + M + J having conversation.
Josy stands her ground all the time. Furthermore she wanted to go back to maya but stays with mc so that maya situation don't get worse. That judgment is caring and responsible one. Point out where did maya decided anything for her.

6. "it's still a toss up between Josy and Jill because Josy is just as bad ." I don't even like josy as li but she stand up for mc even if mc is just friend or in relationship with her no matter what. This is a signature moves for best friend. They stand for their friends no matter what.(Jill is dumbest, selfish, entitled, Golden-spoon and person with superiority issue : I CAN PROVE WHAT I JUST SAID and character of Josy is just opposite of jill.)

7. "not a chance ... shes nothing like Camilla she's more like Lily" : Josy is neither a stripper nor she looking for a relationship just for a title dominance.:cautious: She is also not selling sexual favor for money. I like camilla she is also have character to be a great friend of mc.

Look, I am not even interested in josy as li but as friend yet if i want I can give you more 20 more example that will close your argument 20 times but let me be straight forward on that "If you are not able to understand Josy. You will not even have smallest idea what quinn is.
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I'm playing for first time and vault code for episode 1 unlocked all vault pictures except for episode 7 I think. That's a bug, right?
 

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:unsure:. I don't know. I often give DPC the Benefit of doubt the, expecting him to do better, or reasonable. Just like, with the whole Jill being Virgin thing, I expected him to do better. Yeah Yeah, I don't care the whole "oh it was obvious" -shit. Her being Virgin add nothing positive to her character at all, quite the oposite, in my opinion. But that is an another long story:ROFLMAO:.
May be My moral compass is off, but I fail to understand what DPC try to achieve here. I fail to understand how in any Scenario Jill could see MC as a Bully, or a Dik affinity MC as the "Bad Guy" in the story in anyway shape or form, generally speaking. When, Tybalt is the one who is lying, manipulating and Blackmailing Jill, whereas MC was nothing but Nice to Her, regardless of his Affinity. MC not putting up with Tybalt bullshit, and putting him in his place in the only way he truly understand, is make him the bad guy, the bully. I'm not buying it. :ROFLMAO:

Part of me, want Jill to end up with Tybalt, to get what she deserved for her Stupidity. or at least not abel to protect her, and neither should Bella do. as long as MC and Bella, protecting guarding Jill, She not gonna grow as a person.
That is why, I hope, the whole Cold shower and "Jealousy stats " actually a positive effect for Jill. it would be great, if these Characters would actually develop, and this Affinity would be less relevant once they like you. out of nowhere Jill is sense that Dik MC is off for her, for whatever reason , regardless if he is the most nicest decent person toward her. all in all, may be I'm wrong but it has no logic for me.
and Good Hope, DPC stop doing this, " Redeeming " shit with characters. I really dont want this " I was not always Rich, I raised from where I came " bullshit, with Tybalt. Keep a pice of shit to be a pice of shit, for fuck sake. and let the Love Intrest to learn and grow and develop. Instead of keeping them in a static stage.

Thing like the Cathy's panties is much more believable, scenarios, than the secret " Force Power" that does not make sense regarding of the context fo the story , as in the Jill Blackmail story. Dik MC is 'off" for, her. Tyblat who actually doing the shit is with her is okay,.
like I said, it's probably me, but it does not make any sense to me. but hey at least we can be Neutral. - that is something
:ROFLMAO:
I don't see it quite the same way. I don't think DIK affinity automatically makes someone a "bad" guy, but I do think it leans towards that in a way CHICK affinity doesn't. (Though that is arguably a result of how poorly realized the whole affinity system is in the first place.)

In the case of Tybalt, it's a matter of proportion. For all his lying, manipulation and condescension, the guy is zero threat. His vendetta against the MC accomplished nothing more than ruining the mansion's ground floor (and potentially his teeth). His first "date" with Jill would probably have torpedoed any chance the guy ever had with her even without Bella's interference. Hell, his whole master plan amounts to little more than wasting ~8 hours of Jill's life. Tybalt is useless, and at a certain point that becomes a problem.

Just as an adult humiliating a young child will always look bad no matter how big a brat the kid might be, the MC really shouldn't keep wailing away on Tybalt like this - not unless Tybalt manages to win a round or two against him first. You can say that's unfair to DIK affinity to punish them for taking DIK options, but I'd say the real mistake was framing DIK options as being so disproportionately cruel. I'm not saying Tybalt should be "redeemed;" I don't think that will happen and I definitely don't think it needs to happen. What I am saying is that Tybalt could become unintentionally sympathetic if the MC keeps tormenting him like someone pulling the legs off an ant.

On top of that, there's the fact that Jill, at least as currently presented, seems like exactly the wrong person to see the humor in the MC running up the score this way. Some girls could' Quinn, for example, would probably be a little too enthusiastic for my taste. But Jill isn't wired that way; if she were, there would be no need for this charade because she'd have slapped Tybalt and told him to fuck off a long time ago.

Jill can't simultaneous be such a pure and innocent soul that she refuses to trust her lying eyes but ALSO chuckle at the MC repeatedly making Tybalt suffer long past the point where he could offer meaningful resistance. To me, that smacks of protagonist centered morality. In theory Jill's arc could involve her rejecting that naive innocence and deciding Tybalt really does have it coming. But arcs in this game have been very slow so far. The longer we see the MC extract revenge for offenses Tybalt couldn't hope to inflict with both hands and a SWAT team, the harder it will be for Jill to credibly conclude he deserved it.

So yeah, unless Tybalt becomes a legitimate threat (and I think that ship has sailed), if the MC keeps this shit up it should cost him a shot at Jill's path. But that doesn't mean I think she should simply dump him without warning. What I want to see is for Jill and a DIK-ish MC to grapple with their different personalities. That's where I think things like the jealousy stat could have beneficial side-effects. As Jill can say, pursuing a DIK MC isn't the storybook romance she expected. But the fact that she's torn up about it means she must care about the MC.
So why not lean into that? Let a DIK MC and Jill explore what they like and dislike about each other. Let them try to work out ways in which each can change to give them more common ground. Do "Grease" without requiring the characters pull the full 180 in the last second. If an MC insists on doing everything his way, yeah, Jill will ultimately write him off. But if he's willing to reign in his excesses a little, then he can encourage Jill to come around and recognize why Tybalt is so loathsome in the first place.

No idea if DPC would actually do something like that, of course, but that's the only way to salvage something worthwhile out of the whole Tybalt mess. And I think it has the potential to be a lot more involving than the simple storybook romance the CHICKs would get.
 
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