Heycock

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you are defending the indefensible...

at that moment Maya is definitely not romantically interested in MC. MC tells her that he is interested in her instead because she after telling him she had a boyfriend, explained to him that it's a lie she uses to be left alone

so MC thinks she's free, which isn't true, but Maya decides to continue to make him believe it, which is bad behavior, not electric chair bad, but bad behavior.

She won't tell him she's a lesbian? Okay.
She won't tell him she's in a relationship? Okay.
But she has to tell him something. She'd rather tell him that she's interested in him, too.

She can't tell him because she doesn't know, still in chapter six she has doubts about whether she really likes a man.
Oh, indefensible? I dont know this is a whole new world for me.
She is intrigued but not interested. Still dont get the difference.
And if you are intrigued you had to reject someone who is interested. Not couse you have a girlfriend, seems thats ok. But because you are only intrigued. Why? Still not an answer but i guess is because that guy dont believe something could happen. Even if everyhintg happens
Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.
 

felicemastronzo

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Oh, indefensible? I dont know this is a whole new world for me.
She is intrigued but not interested. Still dont get the difference.
And if you are intrigued you had to reject someone who is interested. Not couse you have a girlfriend, seems thats ok. But because you are only intrigued. Why? Still not an answer but i guess is because that guy dont believe something could happen. Even if everyhintg happens
Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.
to explain it again I would have to repeat what has already been said...

don't you think a "not free" girl should dissuade a guy who declares interest in her?
don't you think a lesbian girl should avoid deluding a guy who declares interest in her?

What really escapes me is that these are all things that Maya later apologizes for, while for you she has done nothing wrong, ever...
 

Hermith

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Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.
I'm not even sure if she was a lesbian to begin with. It doesn't really make sense if lesbian girls are with other girls just because they didn't meet trustworthy, good guys. At most she is bisexual whos first love happened to be a girl. I guess most guys she knew were somewhat similar to Derek and in my opinion that's borderline enough to turn a girl lesbian.
 

Heycock

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I'm not even sure if she was a lesbian to begin with. It doesn't really make sense if lesbian girls are with other girls just because they didn't meet trustworthy, good guys. At most she is bisexual whos first love happened to be a girl. I guess most guys she knew were somewhat similar to Derek and in my opinion that's borderline enough to turn a girl lesbian.
Good, now explain that to felice and leave me out of this.
 

Machete

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Didn't see, I started watching a streamer I like playing it, then decided to play it for myself, but to get some good graphics I would need to change my processor, and to change my processor I would need to change everything else, so CP2077 is on my holding list. Tho I don't mind spoilers really if the ending is that shitty I wouldn't want to play it. It can't be worse than GoT ending or HIMYM ending right?
It's pretty bad and unnecessary. Until there the story is quite rich and good. There are 4 possible endings with one element in common that kinda spoil all of them.
I don't know Himym. GoT ending could even work, as a list of things that go into their places, it's mostly the execution that suck terminally. I would say CP2077 is the exact opposite.
 

Heycock

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to explain it again I would have to repeat what has already been said...

don't you think a "not free" girl should dissuade a guy who declares interest in her?
don't you think a lesbian girl should avoid deluding a guy who declares interest in her?

What really escapes me is that these are all things that Maya later apologizes for, while for you she has done nothing wrong, ever...
So, the issue is not that she is not interested now. That doesnt matter.
Why she should disuade him? So he dont make fals expectations?
 

Machete

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don't you think a "not free" girl should dissuade a guy who declares interest in her?
don't you think a lesbian girl should avoid deluding a guy who declares interest in her?

What really escapes me is that these are all things that Maya later apologizes for, while for you she has done nothing wrong, ever...
Welcome to the magic world of dudes and ladies relationships :D
 

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Maybe I worded that wrong (english isn't my mother tongue)
No Worries mate :)
Quinn is not a good example because she didn't even try to hide the fact she wanted to see Maya suffer. Maya despised Quinn so of course she wouldn't do literally anything just for the promised tuition.
I was not talking about what Quinn did or not in that text. Of course, Quinn made Maya suffer and Maya isn't a 2nd-grade girl who will do anything for others, even a real 2nd-grade won't. NP, I am not going to drop a missile on your head for the mistake :ROFLMAO: just be careful with your words.
The mc on the other hand is a way better example, they knew each other for a day or two and Maya already started to feel the attraction to him. At this point we can't say that it's physical attraction as she was attracted to someone who appeared nice without apparent ulterior motives.
At first I was planning to give a MC example but I thought giving a Quinn example would make it easier and faster to understand.
Maya is one of my favorite girls in the game, but just like the others she has character flaws. These flaws make their routes unique and interesting.
Exactly, the flaws the LI's have make them even more interesting and unique. Their situations are something you could expect to see in real life. No one is perfect in the game and that's what makes the story even more amazing. So many other AVN's have a perfect character list, no one is flawed. BaDIK was one of the AVN's that had different ideas from them.
 

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So, the issue is not that she is not interested now. That doesnt matter.
Why she should disuade him? So he dont make fals expectations?
for me she is not romantically interested at that moment, you say I am wrong, so I let it go
Now don't hang up on this as if I've changed my mind.

For me, Maya has behaved incorrectly.
Even according to Maya herself, she has behaved badly.
 
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Machete

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Indeed she has. So did Josy. That's why i haven't pursued the route. They feel like average spoiled brats to me.
 

Hermith

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for me she is not romantically interested at that moment, you say I am wrong, so I let it go
Now don't hang up on this as if I've changed my mind.

For me, Maya has behaved incorrectly.
Even according to Maya herself, she has behaved badly.
That being said the mc behaved incorrectly when he acted as if he was interested in Maya, while he still longed for Josy. At the beginning of their relationship Maya wasn't romantically interested in the mc, he was more like an emotional support in the college where Maya pretty much suffered all alone.
 

dalli_x

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We should remember that Josy & Maya's path branches into 2 different stories: when Josy's dad comes to see her you MUST choose to follow Josy or Maya. This is the point where you decide whether Josy comes first or Maya comes first.

I wholeheartedly recommend to save here and create 2 gamesaves: "Maya first" and "Josy first", because there are a few points in which you will have to give preference to Maya over Josy or Josy over Maya.
I don't think so. The problem is when the MC goes to Maya Josy catches them both after sex. This could lead to trust issues with Josy later on. If the MC stays with Josy, Josy calls Maya herself and tells her everything. If then the MC still writes by cell phone, that it was right so, everything is fine.

The decision for the group will be made in EP7. The first time to renounce sex with Josy. The second time go to Maya (with TV) and cum in her face. Maya says that she thought the MC would come in her mouth as in the threesome with Josy. At the Hot's party enter the romantic relationship with Josy.

I think that's how it works.
 

dalli_x

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That being said the mc behaved incorrectly when he acted as if he was interested in Maya, while he still longed for Josy. At the beginning of their relationship Maya wasn't romantically interested in the mc, he was more like an emotional support in the college where Maya pretty much suffered all alone.
Why did he misbehave? He didn't know himself what would happen to him and Josy. And that he was interested in Maya is also clear. She is a pretty girl.
 

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for me she is not romantically interested at that moment, you say I am wrong, so I let it go
Now don't hang up on this as if I've changed my mind.

For me, Maya has behaved incorrectly.
Even according to Maya herself, she has behaved badly.
(y) Can't like cuz reached my limit
Back to the point, I agree that in ep2 When MC said that he was falling for her, she should have said that She can't reciprocate the same feelings back to him. I understand her being depressed or confused during those parts, but she should have made it clear that She didn't love him at the time. It's not like It was such a huge problem for me but later Me and My MC felt "betrayed". But I still Love Maya...
That being said the mc behaved incorrectly when he acted as if he was interested in Maya, while he still longed for Josy. At the beginning of their relationship Maya wasn't romantically interested in the mc, he was more like an emotional support in the college where Maya pretty much suffered all alone.
I would say that at that time, MC himself was confused about his feelings. He knew that Josy had a boyfriend ( fake ) and couldn't understand what to do. If I am correct the scene we are talking about happens before Josy's date. So Yeah, MC was also wrong at his place but it's not like his fault, he just couldn't figure his feeling out like other characters, Josy is confused, Maya is Confused, Sage is confused whether to love MC or just remain Fuck-buddy, Bella is confused about the path she is going to take but her confusion vanishes at the end of ep7 we will see what happens in ep8, Jill is...naïve, so who is not confused about their true feelings?
Why did he misbehave? He didn't know himself what would happen to him and Josy. And that he was interested in Maya is also clear. She is a pretty girl.
Exactly.
 

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I don't know why people take what Felice says seriously since I've had time in this thread, he has never shown sympathy for Maya, do you think he's going to show it now? :ROFLMAO:
 
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dalli_x

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(y) Can't like cuz reached my limit
Back to the point, I agree that in ep2 When MC said that he was falling for her, she should have said that She can't reciprocate the same feelings back to him. I understand her being depressed or confused during those parts, but she should have made it clear that She didn't love him at the time. It's not like It was such a huge problem for me but later Me and My MC felt "betrayed". But I still Love Maya...
EP1
Maya: There is something in his eyes
Maya: What is this guy doing to me

Since EP1 there are already feelings of Maya for the MC. She just didn't understand them because she never felt what for a guy before.
 
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