VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[AchedCroissant]

i always thought he's hiding handcuffs behind him ... some girl just left him there like that. It doesnt help that his bed looks like it's stolen from insane asylum

It seems that DPC used a prison room

 

[DavDR]

it fits

good assumption, of course having blocked the major choices takes away a lot of flexibility, tendentially a player who is interested in Sage could be DIK in a quite strong way

Could be, or maybe not. I just completed a run where I just went for Sage, and nobody else. It was really difficult to stay on the DIK side with those decisions.

 

[kratos92]

For Your First Question:-

Conditions are marked Yellow

1. In the Early start of ep7, When Josy is with you at DIK's mansion, You get a Free-Roam event. You need to check your messages on the New phone and You see Jill online. By default, She will text you and you can reply to her. No Conditions Required.

2. After Jill's Pleasure scene, You get a Free-Roam event at DIK's Mansion. You are required to answer or reply to girls who have messaged you. Jill will only text you if you chose to fight for her. If she texts you, you can reply to her.

3. After Tybalts Presentation. Now if you clicked a photo of your dick on tybalts phone in ep5, Jill WILL NOT text you.
If you didn't click the photo of your dick, Jill will text you and you can reply to her.

As for your 2nd Question:-

No one knows whether we need money for something else after repairing the Windows. But it is assumed that this will be the way, DIK's earn money and use that money for necessary things, Parties etc.

If you are having problems earning money in the minigame, you could try the Mansion Mini-game Guide.

Well, here's the thing, I didn't get any messages from her in both roams that's why I'm asking and I did all the things you said, I chose fight for Jill and went to the mansion and made out with her and found out she's a virgin, but I didn't receive any messages not in this roam and not in the first roam when Josy was in the DIK's mansion. Is there something wrong with my saves or the game's version itself? Because if there were no conditions for the first roam, and I fulfilled the conditions for the second roam, then I don't understand why I didn't receive any messages from Jill!

 

[sorco2003]

Well, here's the thing, I didn't get any messages from her in both roams that's why I'm asking and I did all the things you said, I chose fight for Jill and went to the mansion and made out with her and found out she's a virgin, but I didn't receive any messages not in this roam and not in the first roam when Josy was in the DIK's mansion. Is there something wrong with my saves or the game's version itself? Because if there were no conditions for the first roam, and I fulfilled the conditions for the second roam, then I don't understand why I didn't receive any messages from Jill!

Do you have a chick affinity? Did you get the masturbation scene?

 

[kratos92]

Do you have a chick affinity? Did you get the masturbation scene?

I don't understand, are there conditions to receive those messages like being on Chick path or not? Because it was mentioned here and in the walkthrough that there are no conditions!

 

[JETracktor]

I don't understand, are there conditions to receive those messages like being on Chick path or not? Because it was mentioned here and in the walkthrough that there are no conditions!

Actually official walkthrough doesn't shows you the whole game, maybe 2\3 of it. It just shows you the easiest way to get scenes, renders etc.

A lot of choices marked like "nothing" but many of them aren't nothing in a long run.

The full story of Jill you can get only with CHICK affinity and CHICK status. Also there is several major choices - all of them marked right in the walkthrough.

 

[sorco2003]

I don't understand, are there conditions to receive those messages like being on Chick path or not? Because it was mentioned here and in the walkthrough that there are no conditions!

Not Chick exactly, but at least not DIK affinity.

 

[sorco2003]

Actually official walkthrough doesn't shows you the whole game, maybe 2\3 of it. It just shows you the easiest way to get scenes, renders etc.

A lot of choices marked like "nothing" but many of them aren't nothing in a long run.

The full story of Jill you can get only with CHICK affinity and CHICK status. Also there is several major choices - all of them marked right in the walkthrough.

I think it's really all there, but without making any spoilers, never mark a decision as important (Cathy, I'm looking at you) until it happens.

 

[DIXEREX]

I wanna see a ufc match battle royal DIK vs Alphas BLOODSPORT style, Karate Kid MC, man I would love to see Lion Heart the Batas lol

 

[ename144]

Derek knows. All the DIKs found out when Jacob vouched for the MC during the end of Hell Week. I'm just surprised he hasn't outed the MC to Maya yet, given his loose-lipped nature. Then again, he probably wouldn't say anything if no one asked. Hell, he didn't even say shit about it after the evaluation, so I'm assuming he either forgot or just didn't find it that big of an issue.

If Maya never asks, then that's that. Additionally, seeing as the incident occurred before Maya designated Quinn as the enemy, she probably wouldn't hold much of a grudge (hopefully).

If anyone's gonna go for both Maya and Quinn, I expect there to be crucial choices which may potentially collapse one of the routes and resulting in a shattered relationship between them and the MC.

Derek probably isn't worried about the MC's dalliances prior to the throuple becoming an (un)official thing. As for after, I think Episode 6 makes his thought process clear if the MC keeps banging everything that moves: Derek will start by talking to the MC about it, but if he gets the sense that Maya isn't on board with the MC's interpretation he's going to side with Maya.

No shit Dalli, she definitely has something to do with Burgmeister and Royce, she goes to the college...

She probably bought it through the college shop...

Your conspiracies are driving me mad.


BaDIK is akin to 70's porn. i.e. they actually have a plot and story but there's still dicks going into cunts on screen.

As opposed to today's porn where it's basically, guy eats girl, girl blows guy, guy fucks girl's cunt then her ass then cums on her face. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam.

I think the theoretical distinction is less about the presence of a plot and more about how much effort the work puts into it: if the plot is treated as an afterthought it's porn, if the plot hangs together it's erotica (or an Adult Visual Novel).

Personally, I think there's feasible way to make such distinctions meaningful, because we all have different views of whether a plot "hangs together." I'd just say that I see both pornographic elements and meaningful artistic merit in BaDIK and leave it at that.

Maybe I've just outgrown teen issues as source of drama, but in BaDIK it feels cheap most of the time, not sometimes. The problem is that even more serious issues, like Maya's financial troubles are handled quite poorly. As for relationships, taken individually they might seem okay, but when you take it as a whole, MC having equally deep relationships with multiple characters is just unrealistic. Not to mention making him appear like a kid that can't make up his mind, which he's written as half the time.

Yeah, I realize it's a 'college experience' game, and true, it does tug the heartstrings sometimes, but when you distance yourself a bit and look at the big picture, you'll see it's not all that 'perfect'. By comparison AL had deeper relationships with fewer characters, but that made it seem more focused. Whether the twist was needed or not is a matter for debate, but it was relatively well plotted at least.

And finally - what's with all the unnecessary padding in BaDIK already. If you trim the fat the game would be ~30% shorter, much faster to develop and be way more focused on what matters instead of the random 'mini' and 'party' games.

Much as above, this is pretty subjective. Yes, the MC in this game is somewhat less mature, but that's not bad writing since BaDIK's MC is indeed literally a kid.

But I don't see much better about the relationships in AL, especially since you're railroaded into romancing Meghan whether you like her or not. I think the relationships between the MC and each of the LIs (and Quinn, for that matter) is at least as well handled as the relationships in the first half of AL (no point in looking at the later stages until BaDIK is similarly advanced). Honestly, I think they even work fairly well if you play them all simultaneously; Jill's is the only one that feels like a stretch, but that's also the one where the MC himself feels like he's doing something wrong, so it does fit. YMMV, of course.

As for the mini-games, I also disagree. I've played the game with them turned off, and the experience as a game suffers for it (though it does make replaying faster); they are a good way to break up the monotony of clicking on dialog choices. Plus, some of the games are quite enjoyable. I find the tennis game strangely therapeutic and the mansion repair game a fun optimization challenge. (And I know I'm not alone on that last one.)

 

[znar25]

Being new to this game and having played it through a few times....just simply amazing craftsmanship.

For Dr Pink Cakes it must be like Jules' friend Jimmie in the movie Pulp Fiction in that he doesn't need to be told how good his coffee is.

 

[dalli_x]

And also, choosing between Maya/Josy and Sage is next to impossible and now that I think of it, none of those relationships look like they would work out long-term to me.

M&J are cute and MC dynamic with them is really beautiful, but it seems like they're just constantly on the verge of breaking up, always wanting different things, often pissed at each other and not understanding each other. MC is basically the glue keeping them together in that relationship. And if they do break up, it seems to me that they would both prefer staying single than remaining with MC.

Meanwhile Sage is a genuinely amazing girl, but she feels like best friend material instead of girlfriend material. MC gets on with her the best out of all female characters for sure imo. I could see them "rolling together", as Lily would say, for like 10 years, until they realise they're perfect fits for each other and get married lol. In fact that's what I want to see as a sequel to BAD, just MC and his best friend Sage discovering their true feelings after years of friendship.

I'm rambling but man do so many characters in this game have fucking depth.

P.S. That ending was fucking amazing, and shoutout to my man Chad, he's legit a good guy and hope he makes peace with his inner demons and accepts himself.

Is all

There are several indications that there will be endings for Josy/Maya/MC and an ending Josy/MC with Sage/Jill/Maya. For example, in EP5, after you have sex with Josy and Josy shows the MC the Sweater, she gives you a hint. The right hand (Dik) shows you 4 fingers and the left hand (Chick) shows you two fingers. According to my interpretation this could mean that if the MC is DIK (I don't mean the affinity) the combination Josy/MC with Sage/Jill/Maya is possible. Thus the MC has 4 women. There will probably be no group sex, but none of the women will be alone if the MC has a threesome. The Chicken choice, two fingers, is wello clear. But the whole thing is not possible with Bella. Bella is an absolute single path.

Bella is probably the madame of B&R. How I come up with it. Arieth says in EP5 that the Hot's are at an "Oh my God" preps party. What connection was Bella in at college? OMG.

 

[dalli_x]

So Swyper is a trap and Nora is Maya and Derek's mother

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I strongly believe that Swyper is a trap. Take Josy's cell phone in EP5 during the Hangout. Josy could do the same thing when she's in the DIK Mansion. Since the MC has a new cell phone, the old cell phone is lying around somewhere. It doesn't even have to be Josy snooping around in the MC's old cell phone. Maybe it is also Derek. What also seems very strange to me is the new cell phone. There are already several numbers stored. The MC should therefore also watch out.

Take a look at Catrin's chat alone. At some point Catrin writes that her boyfriend has canceled the Saturday night and her ex-boyfriend fucks some bitch. The MC does not understand that Catrin still meets with her ex. In EP5 Tommy gets a nose poke from Caleb. I ask who is the new boyfriend and who is the ex?

What? How do you come up with that again?

Catrin is from New York. B&R must be near New York.

What? How do you come up with that again?

Check out the cop's right arm in EP3, just before the Free Roam event where the MC plays guitar for Jill. New York Police Dept.

Now in Swyper, if the MC chats with Catrin more than once, trouble could come to the MC because the MC can be mistaken for Tommy. Either with the boyfriend and/or ex boyfriend. Thank God Jade and Cathy are in the bar. But the MC should not go there, just to be on the safe side.

 

[cryhwks]

I think Swyper was something DPC tried and ended up hating. I'd be surprised for it to come back around in a meaningful way.

 

[dalli_x]

I think Swyper was something DPC tried and ended up hating. I'd be surprised for it to come back around in a meaningful way.

It will not come back. DPC has achieved what it wants to do with Swyper. The player's choices in Swyper are recorded in the save files and will be used in later episodes as needed to get the MC into trouble. I just remember Cathy's panties, which Bella later finds in the car.

 

[Bigknuckle84]

All around great game. If you like renpy you will like being a DIK. APPROVED

 

[`Ray`]

Well, here's the thing, I didn't get any messages from her in both roams that's why I'm asking and I did all the things you said, I chose fight for Jill and went to the mansion and made out with her and found out she's a virgin, but I didn't receive any messages not in this roam and not in the first roam when Josy was in the DIK's mansion. Is there something wrong with my saves or the game's version itself? Because if there were no conditions for the first roam, and I fulfilled the conditions for the second roam, then I don't understand why I didn't receive any messages from Jill!

I don't understand, are there conditions to receive those messages like being on Chick path or not? Because it was mentioned here and in the walkthrough that there are no conditions!

I am Sorry, I thought that it was given that only CHICK MC can properly pursue Jill...Anyways, You need a CHICK Affinity to pursue Jill.

This is not given in the Walkthrough, But since I played the game multiple times, I found that you need to be at least Huge CHICK, to get good scenes with Jill. If you are a Massive CHICK then there is no problem at all.

If you are a Neutral MC, you miss some scenes and there are some changes in dialogues during conversations with Jill.

If you are a DIK MC, you miss all good scenes with Jill and there are a lot of changes in dialogues. You can't pursue Jill if you are a DIK MC.

NOTE:- This is my observation when I played the game with different affinities and points.

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Otherwise if you are playing the compressed version, then that could be the problem since it breaks the game.

IF you are using Walkthrough_Mod too much, as in changing values constantly, then that might break the game as well.

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And another thing, In the first free-roam, the MC has to start the conversation first.

 

[dalli_x]

I have to say something about the BaD storyline. If you look closely at the personalities of the different characters, they are constantly changing their personalities. This happens so often that it can't be a mistake on DPC's part, not with his meticulous and detail-oriented way of working.

The most noticeable personality changes are those of Maya.

EP1: We have an open-minded Maya.
EP2: Maya is still open-minded toward the MC. When the MC is chick, Maya kisses the MC almost passionately before he goes to Josy. She likes the MC.
EP3: Maya and the MC go further and further in intimacy until Josy shows up.
EP4: It's logical that Maya takes a step back here because she's been hiding something from the MC and Josy. I'm still going with that, it's logical.
EP5: After everything is cleared up between the three, they are somehow more informal again.
EP6: Here it comes. Josy and Maya talk about the MC and his rocket before the two have sex. Later at Gender Studies, Maya and the MC form the conversation pair. Maya asks a few questions about the date from EP1 at the cafe. Now yesterday I had a real quandary answering the questions. I actually always use the same answers in EP1 and EP6. Now comes something strange. I play with cheat and the cheat gives me a different answer in EP6 than the one I gave in EP1. I decided against the cheat and gave the answer the same answer from EP1. I also got the 100%. Maybe her DPC put in an anticheat routine? But back to Maya. Maya takes her hands off the MC afterwards and says quite shyly that she likes him. Eh how now? She didn't like him before? Was all the sexual content from Ep2 and EP3 with Maya just a sexual experimentation phase of Maya, completely without a feeling of affection for the MC? That doesn't fit with EP1-EP3 at all. It actually seems to me like Maya just got to know the MC.

DPC would not make such mistakes. DPC has also written once that he wants to go a new and different way with BaD than other game developers. But he did not reveal what. Understandable. But in my opinion you could move some game scenes in the timeline and there would be a completely different sense in the relationships with small between scenes.

Damn, I don't know how to explain this. I think that the flashback of Josy and Maya in EP4 didn't show us everything. At some point the MC probably has to decide if he wants to go to the beach or the mountains. If he chooses the beach, there will be a back-to-back meeting with Zoey, which could cause conflict with Josy if the MC is not in the throuple. Or he will enter into a throuple with Josy and Zoey. But what if the MC decides to let Zoey and Josy stay on the beach because he doesn't want a throuple and heads to the mountains to be with Maya. Oops. There's suddenly Josy making out with Maya. It is clear that this will confuse the MC. He overreacts, as Derek has already noted. Some kind of accident happens that affects the MC's memory. Half a time later and with memory loss he meets Josie or Josephine in the mini market. And this is the beginning of BaD. The MC falls in love with Josie from the mountains. (Not the Josie with whom he was on the beach half a year ago and with whom he had a relationship) Now Josie and Josephine start to fight. Josie from the mountains has now also fallen in love with the MC. The two Josie's now start the double Lottchen game. The Josy from the beach has broken up with Zoey and wants to have the MC. But the MC also falls in love with Maya and Maya returns these feelings. That's why one Josie is afraid to lose both of them. Namely to the other Josie or Josephine.

This is damn hard to explain. But if the story was like that, it would have humor and drama in one. The MC should just be cooler with throuple relationships. Derek's words, not mine.

So now I have to go to work.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think Swyper was something DPC tried and ended up hating. I'd be surprised for it to come back around in a meaningful way.

Swyper was perfect for kicking off the storyline with Cathe, a realistic and smooth way to imagine a contact between a student and a sexual frustrated professor.

then it was used also for Nichole, but it wasn't strictly necessary for that, it was enough to make one of the 2 get the number of the other (in fact it's not clear why now they don't contact each other in any way...)
Nora until proven otherwise was a hit and run

so I would say that Swyper has fulfilled his role

 

[JETracktor]

As for the mini-games, I also disagree. I've played the game with them turned off, and the experience as a game suffers for it (though it does make replaying faster); they are a good way to break up the monotony of clicking on dialog choices. Plus, some of the games are quite enjoyable. I find the tennis game strangely therapeutic and the mansion repair game a fun optimization challenge. (And I know I'm not alone on that last one.)

Yeah, especially math quizzes. I found it very pleasant to know that I got them all with no cheats - it means I am not so rusted like I thought.