Kukipett

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Well one thing is clear...James wasn't up to the task. What the hell did she see in that douchebag anyway?
Maybe he could not stand anymore to be a cuck, so he disapeared and now Bella feels some culpability for having destroyed her marriage by going too far.
That would explain her reluctance to get another man in her life. She cheated and lost him, he had enough to have to clean up the cum other men filled her with like a good cuckhold boy!
 

ename144

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Uhm, you can't control everything that goes through in life even if you make all of the best choices in your life, like in AL, the MC can't change the fact that he attracted an obsessive psychopathic person when he made his dick wet. In life even if you make the best decision, you don't totally control everything around you because people around you makes choices of their own too. You can do the best things, then one day a jealous peer/coworker/neighbor shoot you. And that's what happened in AL.
Sure, but that's what makes it a mediocre game. The fact that anything COULD happen doesn't justify any random thing that happens. Real life may be a chaotic mess, but the art of storytelling is to pull order out of that chaos. That's the difference between telling a story and just relating a bunch of things that happened. AL did the latter, IMHO.

I've defended the way Bella's path ends if she finds Cathy's panties, because while that particular outcome was unexpected, to me it's logical that Bella would see that particular act as indicative of the MC not taking her relationship seriously. I'd be a lot less tolerant if Bella called it off because she learned the MC offered to help Maya... much less if KRJ just killed Bella because Quinn's off-brand drugs gave her a bad trip.

Besides, it's still a bait and switch. AL wasn't portrayed as a game about how our choices are inconsequential in the face of an uncaring random universe, yet that's largely what it becomes. The focus of the final quarter of the game isn't on the MC putting his life back together, it's wallowing in how miserable his life is in the wake of the infamous fire. Any healing is secondary and out of our control.

Frankly, I think it's rather shameless the way AL uses the death of Meghan/Melissa as a crutch to cover for the barebones conclusion. If it worked for you, that's fine. But it definitely did not work for me, even as a deliberately bittersweet ending.
 

Kukipett

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But I can't agree with this, either. AL spent 6 episodes letting us make choices, but the last 2 reveal those choices were purely cosmetic. The important decisions were being made offscreen by a minor character for reasons barely even hinted at prior to the final sequence. We then spend the final act watching the MC struggle to recover from the choices of this minor character with precious little input from us.
I'm with you about this.
In fact in almost all theses games the choices that we make don't have a lot of consequences, the reason is simple, the complexity that would result from those multiples choices would mean that the dev would need to make multiple games and that each render would need many variants.
That means a huge amount of work that only a pro developer with many employees would be able to achive.
So yes we have a lot of choices but most of the time they are not relevant or are used for a short time in the story.
That's the same with points and statistics, they are rarely used and even never sometimes.
Often we get multiple endings that are triggered right in the end.
Some games offer multiple path, but when you try them you notice that just a few scenes are changed or missing.

I BAD we already have noticed that the point system is mostly not used but it's just a little action like the panty in the glovebox or maybe the dick pic in the phone that trigger a path ending.
So DPC has setup a bunch of traps of that kind which seem funny or not relevant but which will prevail on any choices you could have done.
 

oceanskie

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I think the woman in the background will be jill and the mc and bella are there to make sure tybalt doesnt try anything , while they can have their date without jill being suspicious of their relationship .
Pretty sure that's just restaurant background person. I would expect Jill to wear something classy/lady-like for dinner dates, regardless whom she's with.
 

LucasLeels

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DPC should focus on adding more fetishes. Like Futa, bestiality or NTR. Make it an option for the player and this game would be perfect. For now everything is really vanilla.
I think by not adding things like NTR DPC is really limiting his game. They could be used for interesting stories.
Maybe Sage could find out that she likes dogs. There are so many options.
good joke :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

The only thing I'm a fan of what you said is beast, but I don't want it added and the game doesn't need that shit to be perfect, it's already perfect.

And the DPC isn't limiting his game, he would be limiting if he added this 3-letter crap, which would end the game, not to mention he would lose most of his subscribers.
 

SpearOfReigns

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What if Tybalt picked "dinner at fancy restaurant" for third and final date and that preview is Bella and Ass Man trying to ruin Tybalt's plan. Later that night the blackmail arc is concluded (my guess is similar with popular opinion here, which is counter blackmail) and after that MC must choose whether to take Bella home for some pussy rust removal or to bring Jill to the DIK mansion for some good ol fashioned deflowering and that choice will forever close one of their route, in true spirit of the episode's title: Crossroads.

Surely DPC can't be that cruel right? :KEK:
 

felicemastronzo

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I BAD we already have noticed that the point system is mostly not used but it's just a little action like the panty in the glovebox or maybe the dick pic in the phone that trigger a path ending.
So DPC has setup a bunch of traps of that kind which seem funny or not relevant but which will prevail on any choices you could have done.
our choices, even the seemingly risky ones (having sex on the roof with Quinn, frolicking with Josy in the garden of HOTs....), count for little or nothing

the choices that DPC decides are important become so at any cost (Cathe who, in order to give a blowjob, feels the need to take off her panties, Tybatl or whoever, who, in order to make a presentation, inserts all the photos he has in his cell phone...)

no control means no responsibility


What if Tybalt picked "dinner at fancy restaurant" for third and final date and that preview is Bella and Ass Man trying to ruin Tybalt's plan. Later that night the blackmail arc is concluded (my guess is similar with popular opinion here, which is counter blackmail) and after that MC must choose whether to take Bella home for some pussy rust removal or to bring Jill to the DIK mansion for some good ol fashioned deflowering and that choice will forever close one of their route, in true spirit of the episode's title: Crossroads.

Surely DPC can't be that cruel right? :KEK:
a cruelty agirable with 2 saves.... and in the end if there is a polyamorous relationship to avoid is just Bella + Jill
 

PashafromRussia

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Sure, but that's what makes it a mediocre game. The fact that anything COULD happen doesn't justify any random thing that happens. Real life may be a chaotic mess, but the art of storytelling is to pull order out of that chaos. That's the difference between telling a story and just relating a bunch of things that happened. AL did the latter, IMHO.

I've defended the way Bella's path ends if she finds Cathy's panties, because while that particular outcome was unexpected, to me it's logical that Bella would see that particular act as indicative of the MC not taking her relationship seriously. I'd be a lot less tolerant if Bella called it off because she learned the MC offered to help Maya... much less if KRJ just killed Bella because Quinn's off-brand drugs gave her a bad trip.

Besides, it's still a bait and switch. AL wasn't portrayed as a game about how our choices are inconsequential in the face of an uncaring random universe, yet that's largely what it becomes. The focus of the final quarter of the game isn't on the MC putting his life back together, it's wallowing in how miserable his life is in the wake of the infamous fire. Any healing is secondary and out of our control.

Frankly, I think it's rather shameless the way AL uses the death of Meghan/Melissa as a crutch to cover for the barebones conclusion. If it worked for you, that's fine. But it definitely did not work for me, even as a deliberately bittersweet ending.
Such tragic endings like murder or burning down a house are more typical for anime than for a serious work. In anime, heroines often kill their lovers. But this happens because emotions are constantly hypertrophied in anime, turning stylization into kitsch. For me, the cause is important, not the effect. The reason for the act is that the heroine is a psychopath, it seems unconvincing to me. And a bad ending for the sake of a bad ending.
 

PashafromRussia

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No matter what happens in the game if she ends with the mc or not, she deserves to be happy.
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I think if Riona comes to her senses and leaves Hots, she will have a happy future. DPC brings Riona and MC together. With each episode we learn more about her. First MС will help her with the stalker, then he will be her personal teacher for math lessons and she will be able to move on without control from Quinn.
Although I hope that there may be a hidden dik ending where MС will stay with the girls from Hots if he fails with her main love interests. And will have a personal harem.
 

EfontMan

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And will have a personal harem.
I'm pretty sure that's wishful thinking. Even if DPC steers clear of contrived drama barbecue-style, I doubt he's going for that kind of thing. Having a relationship with Josy/Maya actually work out is probably as good as it's going to get in that regard.

That said, it would be nice to have some endings that account for the side characters, even if they aren't particularly fleshed out.
 

shazba

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Sure, but that's what makes it a mediocre game. The fact that anything COULD happen doesn't justify any random thing that happens. Real life may be a chaotic mess, but the art of storytelling is to pull order out of that chaos. That's the difference between telling a story and just relating a bunch of things that happened. AL did the latter, IMHO.

I've defended the way Bella's path ends if she finds Cathy's panties, because while that particular outcome was unexpected, to me it's logical that Bella would see that particular act as indicative of the MC not taking her relationship seriously. I'd be a lot less tolerant if Bella called it off because she learned the MC offered to help Maya... much less if KRJ just killed Bella because Quinn's off-brand drugs gave her a bad trip.

Besides, it's still a bait and switch. AL wasn't portrayed as a game about how our choices are inconsequential in the face of an uncaring random universe, yet that's largely what it becomes. The focus of the final quarter of the game isn't on the MC putting his life back together, it's wallowing in how miserable his life is in the wake of the infamous fire. Any healing is secondary and out of our control.

Frankly, I think it's rather shameless the way AL uses the death of Meghan/Melissa as a crutch to cover for the barebones conclusion. If it worked for you, that's fine. But it definitely did not work for me, even as a deliberately bittersweet ending.
It seems the more a game or show shocks, the greater the critical acclaim. AL's scene was shocking to anyone who didn't see it coming and it had the intended effect, it's still heralded by many to be the greatest AVN ever.

Like "The Usual Suspects", "Sixth Sense", "Fight Club" and so on, if you didn't see the twist, it blew you away. Luna's backstory in The Deluca Family is the only reason that game stands out in my mind (although that wasn't a twist, but it was truly harrowing).

I still maintain that there were clues to AL's antagonist's personality very early on, although I didn't expect such an outcome and had pretty much forgotten about them when it all went down.

The sad thing for me when playing AL was that I focused only on one LI (Meaghan) for the first (and only) play through, so when the ultimate choice came, I literally didn't have a choice, there was only one name specified for me to click on, so I was robbed of that gut wrenching decision, and any subsequent playthroughs wouldn't have resulted in the same impact since I would have known what was coming.

I'm sure the game would have had a much bigger impact on me if I was given that dreadful choice, but in the end I didn't like it for pretty much the same reasons as ename144 states above, and the mc's behaviour was even more ridiculous given the girl who died wasn't even an active love interest in my play through. I also found the ~20 year age gap too creepy for my liking.

The ultimate fallout from AL is that heaps of people are bracing themselves for some equally gruelling experience to occur in BaDIK, but such a future event has already lost its impact due to everyone's expectations. DPC would be a fool if he repeated a similar veined predicament as it most definitely would not be received well by anyone.
 

Ilhares

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Anyone else crashing when in the start of episode 7 where Josy asks 'Where do I go?' Any work arounds?
It's not a crash, it's a deliberate exit. The game knows you cheated. If it detects that you cheated, it exits at that point without telling you why. Go ahead and install the mod for the game to get past that point, or start over from the beginning and play pure.

Do any of you happen to have a folder with wallpapers from the game?
A few in fact. Main game images, posted previews and teasers, and fan art.
 
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