VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Ilhares]

Holy crap. I just ran it using the 0.5.2 release (yeah, I have them all starting at 0.4.0), and sure as shit, it says "Over one year ago":
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I'm guessing the reason DPC changed it to "Not long ago" is because having her leave more than a year before the MC is telling the story to Bella presents certain problems. Specifically, it would mean the MC was under the age of 18 in the treehouse scene.

It does seem to have been modified in 8.1; I'm still mostly using 8.0, but I did install the modded version on 8.1 just to keep them separate. I just checked, and sure enough, the line now specifies Zoey left for San Diego more than a year ago.

It's a very odd change, since the specificity doesn't seem to add much (and it technically makes the MC underage during the flashback sex scenes).

I am truly puzzled by this one, I don't remember it ever specifying over a year ago, but in light of such evidence must accept that it had.

I thought he had to avoid any real indication of underage sex to appease the Patreon gods. This would adjust that view somewhat. He was having sex at least as far back as 17 (16 more likely) in light of the relationship and her leaving. A perfectly normal thing in daily life, but daily people don't usually worry about Patreon like an all-seeing eye controlling their fiscal future. Why change it back and forth? That's very odd.

edit: I note that the 8.1 official reads "Not long ago", but the ScrappyMod version says "Over one year ago" as well. Some definite continuity issues between our DPC and Scrappy man.

 

[culrieux]

Jill .. you take her in your pocket and you do NOTHING at the babes bar where you get in
with fake ID. Then you keep going to wherever she needs you to be her knight in
shining armor .. she is pure and dedicated to straight shooting boy scout superman wife.
Be her superman and you are set!

yeah missing the 3some with sandy and envy it one of the thing i regret doing to be with Jill, and have to choose between Quinn restaurant or pink rose action during hellweek

 

[Canto Forte]

We do not need her in any way, shape or form because we already have the major let down
at his work place .. .why talk about yet another let down further like this is what Mc needs to bring him down.
Who in their right mind would set you up with your ex to get closure after they left.
They left, life moved on, sure as hell she did not give a damn about MC.
Why be the welcoming puppy getting the stick after it was her wild sudden departure
that ended it all.

 

[ename144]

I am truly puzzled by this one, I don't remember it ever specifying over a year ago, but in light of such evidence must accept that it had.

I thought he had to avoid any real indication of underage sex to appease the Patreon gods. This would adjust that view somewhat. He was having sex at least as far back as 17 (16 more likely) in light of the relationship and her leaving. A perfectly normal thing in daily life, but daily people don't usually worry about Patreon like an all-seeing eye controlling their fiscal future. Why change it back and forth? That's very odd.

Well, as I mentioned my 8.1 version was modded. Perhaps the mod was originally created using the old dialog and that accidentally overrode the updated dialog in subsequent versions? It's a pretty minor thing, so I could believe no one noticed it until now.

 

[otkmage]

I just had a quick question regarding the end.

Spoiler: Jade's apartment ending

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[Ilhares]

I just had a quick question regarding the end.

Spoiler: Jade's apartment ending

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I believe, if nothing else, because of the revelation to the MC (who is often stupid and oblivious) that Sage and Tybalt are siblings, and even if you didn't punch him, you've definitely been a pain in the ass to Tybs - and now you're reliant upon that family to save Maya's ass.

 

[J.A.L.]

I just had a quick question regarding the end.

Spoiler: Jade's apartment ending

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The ending makes all the sense if you have adopted certain decisions during your gameplay. If you avoided those "traps" that DPC sets to the player, I think the reaction of Tremolo at the ending makes way less sense. But I suppose it´s imposible to write a story with so many different paths and that all of them make sense. DPC needed that moment of drama for plot purposes, that´s all.

 

[otkmage]

I believe, if nothing else, because of the revelation to the MC (who is often stupid and oblivious) that Sage and Tybalt are siblings, and even if you didn't punch him, you've definitely been a pain in the ass to Tybs - and now you're reliant upon that family to save Maya's ass.

That makes sense, i just don't get why his heart starts beating louder and faster upon entering the elevator and acts super worried. Unless he's just super paranoid for no concrete reason?

 

[otkmage]

The ending makes all the sense if you have adopted certain decisions during your gameplay. If you avoided those "traps" that DPC sets to the player, I think the reaction of Tremolo at the ending makes way less sense. But I suppose it´s imposible to write a story with so many different paths and that all of them make sense. DPC needed that moment of drama for plot purposes, that´s all.

I thought that as well, i used the mod to avoid all the "traps" just to see if there was any difference, but realistically no one is playing this game that way, cuz at the end of the day it is a porn game.

 

[OFT]

I just had a quick question regarding the end.

Spoiler: Jade's apartment ending

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I believe, if nothing else, because of the revelation to the MC (who is often stupid and oblivious) that Sage and Tybalt are siblings, and even if you didn't punch him, you've definitely been a pain in the ass to Tybs - and now you're reliant upon that family to save Maya's ass.

The ending makes all the sense if you have adopted certain decisions during your gameplay. If you avoided those "traps" that DPC sets to the player, I think the reaction of Tremolo at the ending makes way less sense. But I suppose it´s imposible to write a story with so many different paths and that all of them make sense. DPC needed that moment of drama for plot purposes, that´s all.

That makes sense, i just don't get why his heart starts beating louder and faster upon entering the elevator and acts super worried. Unless he's just super paranoid for no concrete reason?

I thought that as well, i used the mod to avoid all the "traps" just to see if there was any difference, but realistically no one is playing this game that way, cuz at the end of the day it is a porn game.

I don't understand why some folks can't understand why the MC freaks out at the ending scene when he sees the pictures, even if they had no sexual relations with Jade.

At the bare minimum, she did the following before you have a chance to reject her, and these events are unavoidable:

1. Eyeballs you up & down in the library after you get your phone back from Sage
2. Slaps you on the ass after class
3. Flashes her snatch at you during the meeting with Chad in her husband's office
4. Places her hand on your thigh in the cafeteria
5. Puts her foot on your crotch in the middle of Gender Studies

Now, if a woman (a college professor, no less) did that to me in real life, I'd freak the fuck out, too, if she turned out to be my friend's (or especially, my love interest's) mother.

 

[ename144]

That makes sense, i just don't get why his heart starts beating louder and faster upon entering the elevator and acts super worried. Unless he's just super paranoid for no concrete reason?

From a Doylist perspective, it's to drive home the twists. Like Josy said, the deal was too good to be true and now we know why. Dun dun duuuuun! The added complexity for those who slept with Jade (or worse, just broke up with her) is icing on the cake.

The problem is that, as you note, from a Watsonian perspective it's a severe overreaction *unless* you just dumped Jade to be Sage's boyfriend. I don't care how badly you pissed Tybalt off, even if he was going to be sitting in the meeting there's no cause for full on panic. DPC really should have spent the time to add alternate versions of the ending to handle these situations. Sadly, we got Madame instead.

I thought that as well, i used the mod to avoid all the "traps" just to see if there was any difference, but realistically no one is playing this game that way, cuz at the end of the day it is a porn game.

.... Almost no one.


EDIT:

I don't understand why some folks can't understand why the MC freaks out at the ending scene when he sees the pictures, even if they had no sexual relations with Jade.

At the bare minimum, she did the following before you have a chance to reject her, and these events are unavoidable:

1. Eyeballs you up & down in the library after you get your phone back from Sage
2. Slaps you on the ass after class
3. Flashes her snatch at you during the meeting with Chad in her husband's office
4. Places her hand on your thigh in the cafeteria
5. Puts her foot on your crotch in the middle of Gender Studies

Now, if a woman (a college professor, no less) did that to me in real life, I'd freak the fuck out, too, if she turned out to be my friend's (or especially, my love interest's) mother.

I disagree. Yes, Jade's actions were cause for concern, but it's been something like a month since the MC took her foot off his crotch. They've seen each other many times since then, and neither of them acted as though there was a problem. If it wasn't a problem all those times, it's clearly not going to be a problem in this setting.

 

[J.A.L.]

I don't understand why some folks can't understand why the MC freaks out at the ending scene when he sees the pictures, even if they had no sexual relations with Jade.

At the bare minimum, she did the following before you have a chance to reject her, and these events are unavoidable:

1. Eyeballs you up & down in the library after you get your phone back from Sage
2. Slaps you on the ass after class
3. Flashes her snatch at you during the meeting with Chad in her husband's office
4. Places her hand on your thigh in the cafeteria
5. Puts her foot on your crotch in the middle of Gender Studies

Now, if a woman (a college professor, no less) did that to me in real life, I'd freak the fuck out, too, if she turned out to be my friend's (or especially, my love interest's) mother.

Well, yes. If, in real life, women would dress like the ones of the game everyday, and would have those bodies (even older ones) I would freak out because I would have a boner all day long. This is a porn game and it has its own internal logical, that is different than real life.

Yes, Jade has flirted hard with Tremolo, but Tremolo hasn´t done anything wrong if he rejected her. If something, Jade should be the ashamed one. And it would not make any sense if Jade, that has donated a lot of money to B&R, would reject the request for help from her own daughter, for a student she knows from her own class, out of resentment for Tremolo. What would she say as justification for that rejection to her daughter and his husband?

And the same about Tybald. If Tremolo never hit him, didn´t ruined his last date with Jill... What Tybald has actually against him? He could hold a grudge against Tremolo because of envy, but he can´t say that as a reason to make his parents reject the help for Maya and disappoint their daughter. What can he say? Maybe that Tremolo was in the prep´s party uninvited and started a fire? Tremolo could say, "yes, I was there uninvited, because I needed to talk with Sage. Actually I was with Sage when everything happened. She can say that I didn´t start any fire" Going to a party uninvited is not such a great deal, IMO.

So, that dramatic moment of "fuck, fuck, fuck" is really dramatic only if Tremolo did certain things with Jade and Tybald, but it´s not so dramatic actually if he did not.

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

i want more cathy content

 

[hakuna-matata]

i want more cathy content

Well..... I want more DIK!

 

[OFT]

EDIT:

I disagree. Yes, Jade's actions were cause for concern, but it's been something like a month since the MC took her foot off his crotch. They've seen each other many times since then, and neither of them acted as though there was a problem. If it wasn't a problem all those times, it's clearly not going to be a problem in this setting.

Well, yes. If, in real life, women would dress like the ones of the game everyday, and would have those bodies (even older ones) I would freak out because I would have a boner all day long. This is a porn game and it has its own internal logical, that is different than real life.

Yes, Jade has flirted hard with Tremolo, but Tremolo hasn´t done anything wrong if he rejected her. If something, Jade should be the ashamed one. And it would not make any sense if Jade, that has donated a lot of money to B&R, would reject the request for help from her own daughter, for a student she knows from her own class, out of resentment for Tremolo. What would she say as justification for that rejection to her daughter and his husband?

And the same about Tybald. If Tremolo never hit him, didn´t ruined his last date with Jill... What Tybald has actually against him? He could hold a grudge against Tremolo because of envy, but he can´t say that as a reason to make his parents reject the help for Maya and disappoint their daughter. What can he say? Maybe that Tremolo was in the prep´s party uninvited and started a fire? Tremolo could say, "yes, I was there uninvited, because I needed to talk with Sage. Actually I was with Sage when everything happened. She can say that I didn´t start any fire" Going to a party uninvited is not such a great deal, IMO.

So, that dramatic moment of "fuck, fuck, fuck" is really dramatic only if Tremolo did certain things with Jade and Tybald, but it´s not so dramatic actually if he did not.

Don't misunderstand. I'm not saying showing up at the Burke's would necessarily be a problem between the MC and Jade if nothing sexual ever happened between them. I'd freak out because I would know something about my friend's (or girlfriend's) mom that they would probably never want to know, and that is she spent the better part of a week trying to get into my pants.

 

[J.A.L.]

Don't misunderstand. I'm not saying showing up at the Burke's would necessarily be a problem between the MC and Jade if nothing sexual ever happened between them. I'd freak out because I would know something about my friend's (or girlfriend's) mom that they would probably never want to know, and that is she spent the better part of a week trying to get into my pants.

Yes, but again, that dramatic ending of the chapter is dramatic in certain paths, and no so dramatic in another ones. In my gameplay with Sage, I banged Jade (who not?, she´s hot and DPC throws her to the player), and yes, I said "fuck, fuck, fuck" too. It was a dramatic moment.

Then I made a second one without banging Jade and being as nice as possible with Tybald, thinking that the ending of the chapter would be at least a bit different, but it´s the same, and the moment was weird, not dramatic. A better reaction of Tremolo in that case, after seeing the photos would be something like "Wow, this is going to be tricky, I have to watch what I say in this meeting", not the speech of "future Tremolo" as narrator about the questions that he should have asked, and the "fuck, fuck, fuck".

 

[Klopdwerg]

Nope.
I'm willing to accept yours says this, but it has literally been "Not long ago" since the game's release. If it says "Over one year go" now, this would have to be an 8.1 bugfix retcon. I, too, had replayed the game from the start recently.

Spoiler: Episode 3 Zoey discussion with Bella

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Makes me wonder, OFT. You on 8.0 like I am, or did you grab the 8.1 update? I haven't updated mine to the latest yet, but that's some curious revisionist history if so. Still, with the in-game photographic evidence we've been given, there's still no way MC has a mystery child with Zoey waiting in the wings.

I had also "over 1 year ago" and with the last playthrough which i started over again because i wanted to make new soloroutes it indeed is changed to "not long ago"
And yes, i updated to 8.1 in the meanwhile so it's DPC who is trying to make us guess/discuus it more

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Well, yes. If, in real life, women would dress like the ones of the game everyday, and would have those bodies (even older ones) I would freak out because I would have a boner all day long. This is a porn game and it has its own internal logical, that is different than real life.

Yes, Jade has flirted hard with Tremolo, but Tremolo hasn´t done anything wrong if he rejected her. If something, Jade should be the ashamed one. And it would not make any sense if Jade, that has donated a lot of money to B&R, would reject the request for help from her own daughter, for a student she knows from her own class, out of resentment for Tremolo. What would she say as justification for that rejection to her daughter and his husband?

And the same about Tybald. If Tremolo never hit him, didn´t ruined his last date with Jill... What Tybald has actually against him? He could hold a grudge against Tremolo because of envy, but he can´t say that as a reason to make his parents reject the help for Maya and disappoint their daughter. What can he say? Maybe that Tremolo was in the prep´s party uninvited and started a fire? Tremolo could say, "yes, I was there uninvited, because I needed to talk with Sage. Actually I was with Sage when everything happened. She can say that I didn´t start any fire" Going to a party uninvited is not such a great deal, IMO.

So, that dramatic moment of "fuck, fuck, fuck" is really dramatic only if Tremolo did certain things with Jade and Tybald, but it´s not so dramatic actually if he did not.

So I guess with me on the Jill route, but helped Sage with her cheating and whatnot and didn't screw Jade, I'm probably a 50/50 case that can go either way with the "fuck fuck fuck". Obviously Tybalt is going to have issues with me, but I think being on Sage's good side (and maybe Jade's...?) it could play out differently for me.

I mean, for the fire, my MC was helping M&J so he wasn't even IN the mansion when Derek lit the sprinklers, but that won't matter since I've pretty much had a decent feud with Tybalt, although I didn't punch him back after he hit me, and I've always done the CHIK thing when seeing him.

So who knows, but we have what? more than 9 months to worry about it...?

 

[JohnDelfino]

Seriously?! 2 totally uncalled for lewd scenes with "Madame" while Sage doesn't even get a proper solo sex scene in this one???
Am I the only one feeling like this episode is kind of short, even with all the playthroughs involving all the choices....

Yeah this episode just felt off for me and one of the reasons was how he completely botched the Sage route.

 

[Deleted member 4212304]

All's forgiven if blue hair is a freak though, with this many choices you'd expect at least one of them to be up for some actually kinky shit.

There's been a distinct lack of freaky kink in the game. Just normal kink. No Shanlon from CoBD level shit.