VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DarkKiller]

40-60 minutes long, for those who said that the interlude would be like the prologues of each episode.
My first impression was April for the interlude, but seeing that it's going to be quite long but with no choices, no branch, just animations and renders, maybe February March is quite possible.
If I still believe that episode 9 will take at least the same time as episode 8, so we would have it for September/October...

I can't speak for others, but when I said I thought the Interlude will be like a prologue, I meant it in terms of structure and storytelling only, not in terms of size obviously. I still think it will be like the prologues, but bigger.

 

[felicemastronzo]

At this moment she´s not still hooked up to Tremolo. She´s starting to think that he maybe, only maybe, could be something more that a hothead 19 y. o. student that hits on everything with tits, but she´s not convinced at all. When she discovers that he has had sex with Cathy, in a moment in which Cathy is vulnerable, she just confirms that her first impression was right: Tremolo has some good merits, but at the end is a hothead student that only hits on her because she has big tits. So she leaves the "possible romantic interest mode" and adopts again the "teacher mode": she´s cerebral with him trying to teach him that fucking women around can be a dangerous thing for him. And Tremolo just accept the situation, because at that point, in fact, he´s hitting on her just because he´s a hothead 19 y.o. student that hits on everything with tits.

I think it´s a brilliant scene, actually.

Yeah, that scene was one of the weakest ones from her route, I've said it here before, it always irked me. Bella's reaction I can understand, although it's a little bit hard to believe she can be that composed when they're that far into their affair. But MC's reaction is also all over the place, I bet DPC hadn't initially planned the fallout from MC's fling with Cathy.

I personally took it as her reverting to full blown Ice Queen. She was coming out of her shell a little with the MC and this jolted her back to what she was at the start of the game. Cold, distant... pragmatic.

Obviously that is just my take. The game doesn't go out of its way to prove she's reverted (she's the same afterwards regardless of that betrayal) so it just as easily could be lazy writing but if we're being generous it could have been deliberate.

I don't think the scene is wrong, but it's still a surprise that Bella, who up to that moment in all her decisions, in all her behavior has been extremely passionate, going beyond common sense (staying over at the DIKs' for example) and the norms of behavior (screaming, insulting and looking bad at anyone who doesn't like her) in that scene shows incredible cold blood. Of course it's not a hot behavior, she had some time to think ( not too much assuming that she found her panties only after the night at MC's)

also in the scene of the breakup with MC in the 8th chapter we see all her pain, MC could also believe that all in all everything went smoothly

it's ok, I don't find it an extraordinary scene because it always comes to terms with what DPC wants to tell us at that moment, when she finds the panties it's not yet time to talk about Jill (so it's ok to invite Mc to have fun at home after having just left Jill who plays the puppet for Tybalt in an attempt to save MC), because that issue DPC was going to address later, then at dinner DPC wants them to just talk about the social issue of a teacher-student relationship and wants to put off the super giant elephant in the room, Bella's wedding! !!
narratively they are two choices that I don't approve of at all, that are completely outside of common sense, but that's it, and let's move on

 

[J.A.L.]

Does the presence of Quinn with Sage, Isabella, Jill, M&J in the banner means something? Has she been promoted to "official Li", or something? Or that banner with 6 girls has been used before?

 

[Klopdwerg]

Does the presence of Quinn with Sage, Isabella, Jill, M&J in the banner means something? Has she been promoted to "official Li", or something? Or that banner with 6 girls has been used before?

She did made a big step towards the MC and is very popular. If DPC is smart he will listen to his fanbase and make her a LI also.
Probably the main LI from the "others" section. Imho she allready should be. "HOT" chick with allready a good story behind her so would be a good choice.

 

[TajaRrR]

Does the presence of Quinn with Sage, Isabella, Jill, M&J in the banner means something? Has she been promoted to "official Li", or something? Or that banner with 6 girls has been used before?

I hope Quinn becomes official Li, I can't stand MJ duo so it would be nice to have another route that could potentially be pretty good looking at how Quinn character development is going.

 

[sorco2003]

Does the presence of Quinn with Sage, Isabella, Jill, M&J in the banner means something? Has she been promoted to "official Li", or something? Or that banner with 6 girls has been used before?

Not sure the OP banner was necessarily updated every release initially. These are the OP banners I could find:

2021-04


2020-11


2020-08


2019-11


Not sure about before that, but the pre-release thread has:
2019-02

 

[always86]

Surely it won't take 3 months to create 1 hr game right?

40-60 minutes long, for those who said that the interlude would be like the prologues of each episode.
My first impression was April for the interlude, but seeing that it's going to be quite long but with no choices, no branch, just animations and renders, maybe February March is quite possible.
If I still believe that episode 9 will take at least the same time as episode 8, so we would have it for September/October...

I've been thinking February for a while. He seems to be using his time wisely, or at least his machines wisely. at 40-60 minutes i'd say that is 15-20% the size of the last couple of episodes. He took some time off before beggining work on 8 and then also had the season 3 save system to develop, as well us upgrading the version of Ren'py the game used. I think we'll see episode developement time return to closer to 6 and 7 for the next 2 or 3.

So here's some sums for fun. Episode 8 took 30 weeks to develop (Week one the first Friday after 7 was released). 15% of the time for this would be 4.5 Weeks rounded up, 20% would be 6. That would be the 24th-31st December. We end up with the same time frame for 15-20% of content.

• On average he produced 358/30=11.93 animations per week.
• On Average he produced 4158/30=138.6 static renders per week
• 15% of statics would be 623.7, 20% would be 831.6
• 15% of anaimations would be 53.7, 20% would be 71.6

So that means to produce the statics it would take;

• 15% - 623.7/138.6= 4.5 weeks
• 20% - 831.6/138.6= 6 weeks

So that means to produce the animations it would take;

• 15% - 53.7/11.93= 4.5 weeks
• 20% - 71.6/11.93= 6 weeks

Yes, this doesn't take into account writing or coding, however, I think it would be reasonable to expect Interlude to arrive in January or early February. At a 40-60 minute production any longer wouldn't make sense. I'm going to go with February 4th. In turn i'm going to predict July 22nd-29th for Episode 9.

 

[jish55]

If DPC is avoiding mini games and free roam, we may see the Interlude drop within January since AL received monthly updates.

 

[sorco2003]

I've been thinking February for a while. He seems to be using his time wisely, or at least his machines wisely. at 40-60 minutes i'd say that is 15-20% the size of the last couple of episodes. He took some time off before beggining work on 8 and then also had the season 3 save system to develop, as well us upgrading the version of Ren'py the game used. I think we'll see episode developement time return to closer to 6 and 7 for the next 2 or 3.

So here's some sums for fun. Episode 8 took 30 weeks to develop (Week one the first Friday after 7 was released). 15% of the time for this would be 4.5 Weeks rounded up, 20% would be 6. That would be the 24th-31st December. We end up with the same time frame for 15-20% of content.

• On average he produced 358/30=11.93 animations per week.
• On Average he produced 4158/30=138.6 static renders per week
• 15% of statics would be 623.7, 20% would be 831.6
• 15% of anaimations would be 53.7, 20% would be 71.6

So that means to produce the statics it would take;

• 15% - 623.7/138.6= 4.5 weeks
• 20% - 831.6/138.6= 6 weeks

So that means to produce the animations it would take;

• 15% - 53.7/11.93= 4.5 weeks
• 20% - 71.6/11.93= 6 weeks

Yes, this doesn't take into account writing or coding, however, I do think it would be reasonable to expect Interlude to arrive in January or early February. At a 40-60 minute production any longer wouldn't make sense. I'm going to go with February 4th. In turn i'm going to predict July 22nd-29th for Episode 9.

Yes, in terms of production it could be, but you have to remember that the game time in a normal episode is constituted by story, mini games and free roams, here you would have 60 minutes of game time only with story...
And this is a guess on my part, maybe DPC uses more words than renders, but to fill those 60 minutes, at least as we are used to, would be more than 800 renders.
As for episode 9, I only speculate that if there is a real branch, if there is, the size of the episode in itself would have to be gigantic, since the previous episodes had a lot of common path for all the characters, and again speculating too much, if DPC is going to split the path a lot, it should have a lot of content for each path, so you would fill the average play time of each episode.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Episode Interlude
I have been writing and planning the interlude, I'm trying to box in the events I want in it, and it's going well. I'm very pleased with the writing so far, and I can't wait to continue.

My PCs have been rendering some longer animations lately, and I've also started posing static renders.

It's tough to estimate how long the interlude will be in gameplay. I aim for a 40-60 minutes duration for an average player.

Overall, it will feel interesting, fresh, and different than the previous episodes in several ways.

According to my feelings, the prologue to episode 5 took about 10-15 minutes. But in fact, something else is interesting. What will he tell about the character for 40-60 minutes? We are not interested in it at all yet.
I would also put it at the beginning-middle of February. Development should go faster due to fewer animations, a more linear story and simple code. There will be no lewd scenes in the game, or there will be a minimum of them, and this should also affect the pace, since posing for lewd scenes takes the most time. It's too early to draw any conclusions and panic. We need to wait for a full status update next week.

 

[always86]

Yes, in terms of production it could be, but you have to remember that the game time in a normal episode is constituted by story, mini games and free roams, here you would have 60 minutes of game time only with story...
And this is a guess on my part, maybe DPC uses more words than renders, but to fill those 60 minutes, at least as we are used to, would be more than 800 renders.
As for episode 9, I only speculate that if there is a real branch, if there is, the size of the episode in itself would have to be gigantic, since the previous episodes had a lot of common path for all the characters, and again speculating too much, if DPC is going to split the path a lot, it should have a lot of content for each path, so you would fill the average play time of each episode.

Yes he may need to produce more renders, though he said there won't be a lot of sex so that probably means less animations. As you say we are unlikely to get mini games or free roam events (though we might), but if we don't have these things, it means he doesn't need to produce renders for them, or programme them. In other words some time might be gained for extra renders during conversations, but then some time will be recovered without the need to produce complex events.

As for the branching of episode 9. I don't anticpate this to be as significant as others. Yes there will be scenes and events you don't see, however this is only the same doing a single character playthrough now. The main story will still continue leading to the Halloween party. On the way to the party we'll bang either our LI's or side chicks, and possibly get the chance to cheat, but i don't think the player game will be much different, just potentially with less fucking. (One of the reasons i feel it's early to make us choose, but we'll see.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yes, in terms of production it could be, but you have to remember that the game time in a normal episode is constituted by story, mini games and free roams, here you would have 60 minutes of game time only with story...
And this is a guess on my part, maybe DPC uses more words than renders, but to fill those 60 minutes, at least as we are used to, would be more than 800 renders.
As for episode 9, I only speculate that if there is a real branch, if there is, the size of the episode in itself would have to be gigantic, since the previous episodes had a lot of common path for all the characters, and again speculating too much, if DPC is going to split the path a lot, it should have a lot of content for each path, so you would fill the average play time of each episode.

it's also a bit of a test to see if with the new saves everything is ok, so I think that there will be a minimum of branching, even some different images depending on certain parameters contained in the save, from the LI chosen to other situations drawn

 

[DavDR]

I usually use screenshots for those instead of facepalms. Prime example:




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Y'all do realize that shot is manipulated, right? I made several of them to use as responses for particularly ridiculous posts:

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I sometimes use this one, too:


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Sorry you can't convince me. The truth has been revealed Bella is KRJ's Momma. James took one look at that face and ran for the hills. It all fits!

 

[Tadpol]

no, we are approximately halfway through the game, so it will probably change the story and focus more on the chosen LI, or at some point will be shuffled cards

Basically, choosing the girl means you're no longer being a slut and are ready to try being exclusive. What that also means though is now, you gotta navigate your college and frat life through no longer whoring around and try to remain faithful unless you chose the other route.

It is true that with the choice of an LI, it risks changing the structure of the episodes (at least a little).

More time with the LI, less with the ex-LI, especially if there was rejection on the part of the MC (at least at the beginning). There are also the side chicks, can the MC be unfaithful (probably with consequences later) or not ?


All is not settled, the MC did not speak to M and J (whatever his decision). Episode 9 will begin with the meeting with Mr. and Mrs. Burke, depending on how it goes and the MC's decision on the two girls, he may not be able to broach the subject right away.

If in addition we add the arrival of Zoey, I tell myself that episode 8 which leaves aside the reaction of M and J to the choice of the MC, it is not because DPC lacked time to include it in the episode. I'm afraid that hides complications ...

 

[DavDR]

Guys... I have a confession. I... like Dawe (no homo). It's too fun to have him around. Whenever he shows up, I can't stop laughing. Can't imagine a single episode without him. Best designed male character IMO.

Don't sweat it, everyone has fans. I've even heard that there are people who like Maya. While I couldn't personally imagine such a feeling, what the hell. Live and let live.

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[DarkKiller]

What will he tell about the character for 40-60 minutes?

A whole lot to make Zoey a viable alternative to all the other main LI's, because DPC most certainly knows we as players couldn't give less of a shit about her and if right now we were presented with the choice to romance her instead of the LI we chose in EP8, everyone would choose the LI.

 

[RukiRG]

So from 2019 Quinn was an unofficial LI

 

[AchedCroissant]

we as players couldn't give less of a shit about her

I like how you speak for everyone

 

[felicemastronzo]

Sorry you can't convince me. The truth has been revealed Bella is KRJ's Momma. James took one look at that face and ran for the hills. It all fits!

You have been my first facepalm, do you want to be also my last?

Don't mix wool and silk....