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notmm27

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We see snobbish actions everywhere and everyday, Pal, on social class, wealth, academia, music, art, literature, sports, games and anything you can think of... it's so extensive and its boundary quite blurry, I won't deny myself falling into it, to some degree, in certain areas; and sometimes I question myself of that. what usually interest me the condescending and patronising sentiments that arise from those behaviours, not their original opinions on what they deem inferior; which, if genuinely said and studied, I rather respect those ones.

However, here I'm not accusing the action of unrelentingly propagating one's idea that this VN is a horribly written work, as being snobbish (it appeared petty to me at first), 'cause I'm a bit confused as to what exactly is his goal, and the things he was comparing to... :unsure:

It's not easy but I try, at time, to escape out of it, rid yourself of the involvement, and be an observer of people's behaviours. it's good entertainment and exercise. :)

yes, but you should try the other route later on for the content, they are both amazing LIs. if Relationship Points matter that much, Maya should consider MC her soulmate already :KEK:
wait, is it not? i thought maya was the "MAIN" girl in this game, or at least the most favourite one. i feel like the author put a wee bit more effort in her character and story. mind you, i'm only at the middle of ep 6 for the chick route and stopped at ep 4 on the dik route. so my opinion may change down the line
 

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wait, is it not? i thought maya was the "MAIN" girl in this game, or at least the most favourite one. i feel like the author put a wee bit more effort in her character and story. mind you, i'm only at the middle of ep 6 for the chick route and stopped at ep 4 on the dik route. so my opinion may change down the line
She's the main plot not main girl imho without her there would be no real advancement in the story aside from everyday life but she's also the character everyone loves to hate and loves to love. She's probably mentioned most in the 8000 pages here. Making her the main focus of the forum.
She is however the Main focus of plot development in the game as without her there wouldn't be much conflict or long-term drama to be had in the game as a whole. She's pivotal but I wouldn't call her the "MAIN" love interest. (If that is what you're implying) Because all the women in this game are well written to be honest and worthy of your attention in their own right.
 

notmm27

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She's the main plot not main girl imho without her there would be no real advancement in the story aside from everyday life but she's also the character everyone loves to hate and loves to love. She's probably mentioned most in the 8000 pages here. Making her the main focus of the forum.
She is however the Main focus of plot development in the game as without her there wouldn't be much conflict or long-term drama to be had in the game as a whole. She's pivotal but I wouldn't call her the "MAIN" love interest. (If that is what you're implying) Because all the women in this game are well written to be honest and worthy of your attention in their own right.
so she is a "favourite", i guess i wasnt the only one who thought it that way kwkwwk. and no, i didnt meant as the main love interest since harem is in the tag. but in that genre, favouritsm will happen whether it's intentional or not.
 

notmm27

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and you're right. every female lead is well written here compared to most porn game i've played. that's why i've sinked 2 of my previous weekends on this game playing whilst taking my time. i personally love Bella and Sage because of their personality being on the opposite side of each spectrum yet never had an interaction together. i'm very curious if the author have a planned ending with the MC being with both of them together. i'm praying for it wkwkwkkw
 

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so she is a "favourite", i guess i wasnt the only one who thought it that way kwkwwk. and no, i didnt meant as the main love interest since harem is in the tag. but in that genre, favouritsm will happen whether it's intentional or not.
Well just pointing it out there though it's treated as a harem game in the beggining i wouldn't bank on it being harem as there is no harem tag. Nor is it DPC's style to make a harem game in general treat the first chapters as more of open relationship/free use agreement if you will.
 

notmm27

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Well just pointing it out there though it's treated as a harem game in the beggining i wouldn't bank on it being harem as there is no harem tag. Nor is it DPC's style to make a harem game in general treat the first chapters as more of open relationship/free use agreement if you will.
yeah i know. but in my heart it is, and i hope it will be.
 

notmm27

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Oh, didn't know that, I just remembered that render; thanks for the info. :oops:

I was just joking about RP, Maya is one of the five main LIs.
Her face is in the banner of this game, i know. i meant even compared to the other main love interest.
 

varage

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and you're right. every female lead is well written here compared to most porn game i've played. that's why i've sinked 2 of my previous weekends on this game playing whilst taking my time. i personally love Bella and Sage because of their personality being on the opposite side of each spectrum yet never had an interaction together. i'm very curious if the author have a planned ending with the MC being with both of them together. i'm praying for it wkwkwkkw
Well, I'll let you hope best of luck and besides DPC is already stepping out of his comfort zone with this piece so who knows. Though unless it's a true harem style end i wouldn't bank on a Sage and Bella only end Haha that seems too far-fetched as you say they barely know each other. A jill/Bella end could be more viable though but still unlikely.
 

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Alright. I've been at this Riona thing for two days, and as much as I like her look, I can't help get the fact out of my head that she's not a main LI, and doing certain things (and not doing other things) seems to be sticking in my craw.

What I am probably going to do tomorrow, is UnRen the game, and probably get whatever I can of her (and maybe Quinn's images) but runs w/saves is something I can't do.

I gave it the old "college try" and attempted something new, and it is no surprise that doing certain things or acting a certain way bothered me. Yeah it's a game and just fantasy and all, but just the way I am.

If in the future though, either or both girls get promoted to LI status, I'll attempt it again, but seeing Riona's last two episodes and how she was in some of the scenes really made me feel good about helping her, so I'm hoping her side-girl status gets an upgrade, because she is really a very cool, beautiful girl in this game, but at least I satisfied my curiosity.
Recommend keeping a save Rio save path just in case in later episodes it blossoms.
 
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can someone help me out on mac, whenever i try to unzip the file it shows that it is in unsupported format. please let me know if there is a fix
 

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This latest, patreon reward somehow not felt right :unsure: . so I asked MY favorite, and very talented fan-art maker raizen86 if He could fix it, and improve it for the better :devilish: (y) And once again, He delivered his talent(y)

This is how it should have been:love::devilish:
All you did was ruin the image. I didn't think it was possible, but you are Chip and so it happens. :Kappa:
 
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1) If you want to investigate how the variables influence the game, don't use any mods. They deliberately alter the script(s), so won't give you an accurate insight into how the game is supposed to work.
What about the *Universal Ren'Py Mod [1.5.1] (mod any Ren'Py game yourself)*, then ?I've noticed that IT might be THE definitive tool to really start to understand the mechanics better!

BUT if it's not too much to ask, can you direct me to instead to a guide that can explain how to modify certain variables and how they work with each other in Ren'py games? (NOT talking about the documentation on their official website, I would like SOMETHING that had already been reworked by some """genius""" mind)

Thank you very much... in this way you would be very helpful to me!

2) There is no comprehensive list of console commands/hacks, because it would be *ridiculously complex*, most variables aren't relevant enough to require alteration, and most people who want to cheat would use cheat mods.
For whom would it be *ridiculously complex*...?
From what I inherently understand, I believe that many of those variables in Ren'py games are only useful to developers for technicalities that don't interest the "end-player" but would it "cost so much" to create a universal guide (as close as possible to the rules on which development in Ren'py is based) to allow even the poorest of knowledge to become accustomed to it?

I think that even more convoluted mechanisms have been explained on this forum anyway, so this is a NOT a PROBLEM, in my opinion!

3) The risk of breaking a game when changing variables without understanding the ramifications is universal, not specific to this game.
This is absolutely true, so why not provide the means to understand THOSE better?

Review the previous point for further insights and thoughts on this "major issue".

4) Someone has posted all the variables (at least all the variables that are getting transferred to 0.9). They're not much use divorced of the context of how they're used though.
The post you quoted me in fact I had found it and that's exactly why I then replied to the thread in that way (let's say a bit 'bitter) because despite having spent a BIT of time on it to understand how to edit the ones that were inserted I was not able to grasp the basic concepts and annoyed I abandoned.

Surely it's my fault, but I don't think I'm the only one who had THAT feeling...

Is there really a need for such an advanced knowledge or is there something fundamentally wrong with my approach?

5) If you want to understand how the game works in detail, then you need to extract the script files and interrogate them. The easiest way to do that is to use UnRen (or the newer fork), which will let you unpack the RPA archives (option 1) and then decompile the rpyc script files (option 2). You can then use a text editor like Atom or Notepad++ to examine/search the decompiled rpy script files and discover how certain variables may influence things in the game.
With much pleasure I will go to perform these steps even though I have done them often already... and as I said in this very long answer.

I have not yet grasped the logic of value insertion that theoretically should be crystal-clear with ease once you become familiar with how things works in the "Ren'py nfrastructure". For example, look ad the image below this very comment (↓).

Those are the variables that have been influenced in one of my last saves on Being a Dik 0.8.2 ("they" are a little bit all scattered and I think also erroneously modified with the cheat console).

So obviously from this kind of screens other than the most "glaring" values in the edit which are the ones with ([0/1] meaning on and off), how would I have figured out the rest of what they were referring to in "this mess"?

I look forward to new to clarify even this last doubt, thanks again Meushi and chat you soon!

Link to the uncompressed IMAGE to view it better (unfortunately the Chromium's cache AND the command for a full-page screenshot from the Developers' tools are limited in size and resolution so the image/screenshoot is cut but anyway for the list you can refer below in the spoiler section) →

This is the list, but is it really all of them? (Link to the save I'm talking about → )

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