VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Heyesey]

None of these things mentioned refute the James hallucination theory. You're just saying...well this other scenario could happen. No argument there, but the mere existence of one theory doesn't negate another.

You never heard of Occam's Razor?

 

[Kellermann]

You never heard of Occam's Razor?

Of course, it's my go to in real life. but this is theory hour my dude. It's just fun to think of all the different possibilities.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I did not find weird that the Husband point was not talked in the date, the omission is obviously intentional from both the MC an Bella, the MC even allude a it some scenes later, and we can agree that that problem is not a Elephant is a fucking Blue Whale and both of them are just steering away from that issue because once that can of worms is opened there is not coming back so both are procrastinating, and trying to just have a nice time. In hindsight is a bad move and certainly it will blow in their faces at the worst time posible, but you can't blame them for trying to have a nice time together. After all ignoring the problems hopping for them to go away by themselves is a very human quality and is something that we all do at some point.

then what was the point of talking about the rules of the BR on the relationship between teachers and students? among other things, leaving the question completely unanswered, because neither of them know this regulation and thought it was worth taking a look at it

If they didn't want to think about the problems they could do it, it would have been legitimate, but in this way it remains ridiculous.

reminds me of a comic scene in a famous Italian film in which a Sicilian accompanying a person in the car continues to talk about the problems of Sicily, and every time we are convinced that he is talking about the Mafia, instead once is the heat, the other the traffic ... etc etc.

 

[mindern]

then what was the point of talking about the rules of the BR on the relationship between teachers and students? among other things, leaving the question completely unanswered, because neither of them know this regulation and thought it was worth taking a look at it

If they didn't want to think about the problems they could do it, it would have been legitimate, but in this way it remains ridiculous.

reminds me of a comic scene in a famous Italian film in which a Sicilian accompanying a person in the car continues to talk about the problems of Sicily, and every time we are convinced that he is talking about the Mafia, instead once is the heat, the other the traffic ... etc etc.

The MC does say whatevers in the guidelines won't change how he feels or stop him being with her.

I agree the scene is paper thin and lazy but it does try to explain their laissez faire attitude.

 

[rxy]

I have recently started playing these games. being a dik standouts as one of best ones so far which i have played. love the high quality renders.

 

[DavDR]

surely that's the reason.

for DPC it wasn't the time to talk about Bella's wedding, because it's a twist he wants to make happen later.

and that's understandable, but then you can't set up a dialogue about the problems of their relationship where they blatantly decide not to talk about the main one...

for example if they had only talked about Jill it would have been acceptable, their relationship is still at the beginning, but Bella doesn't want her friend to pay for it, ok
the problem of Bella being a teacher is only a problem if their relationship becomes public, while betraying Jill's trust is a problem even if the relationship remains clandestine, ok

then we can put the responsibility on Mc if it makes us feel better, but it's us players who are treated like simpletons who should complacently forget the problem and then be surprised when it arises

This is why I've said in the past that these surprise twist are the worst thing in the story. I'm not saying that because I dislike twist (I do dislike them but it's besides the point), I say it because DPC is so bad at setting them up and tries to draw it out so much that the whole structure just collapses.

 

[riichidesu]

then what was the point of talking about the rules of the BR on the relationship between teachers and students? among other things, leaving the question completely unanswered, because neither of them know this regulation and thought it was worth taking a look at it

If they didn't want to think about the problems they could do it, it would have been legitimate, but in this way it remains ridiculous.

reminds me of a comic scene in a famous Italian film in which a Sicilian accompanying a person in the car continues to talk about the problems of Sicily, and every time we are convinced that he is talking about the Mafia, instead once is the heat, the other the traffic ... etc etc.

Sure, I mean, we all agree that the moment Bella started speaking about the elephants in their relation the Husband theme need to arise, but after seeing the reactions after the first two themes it became pretty clear to both them that talking about Bella marriage at that point will complete destroy the date, and after the conclusion of the first date, ruining this will probably mean the end of their relation.

Sure probably any reasonable adult will see that the missing husband problem need to be talked and postponing the issue will just jeopardize everything, but come on, the MC is just a 19 years old kid that is having a date with possibly his first love, and yes, he might be a bit more mature that his peers thanks to his upbringing, but he is still a kid. So even thought he knows there is a issue left to speak about, he just ignore it for the sake of saving the date

 

[hakuna-matata]

The marriage should be a huge deal! I was little surprised it wasn't the brought up during the date night or breakfast. I think it's a bigger deal than the teacher/student situation and the Jill relationship. "I would like nothing more than to be in a relationship with you. What about your husband? What is the current status of your marriage?" That should be the first thing you should ask.

 

[DarkKiller]

The marriage will have to come up during Jill and Bella's confrontation in (hopefully) the next episode, there's no way Jill won't mention it. The only question to me is if MC will be present during that scene or not. DPC might try to just make it a scene between Jill and Bella and keep MC in the dark until the next EP or whatever.
It's honestly one of my most awaited scenes, if their little argument during EP6 was anything to go by, it will be quite a fun catfight to watch, even more so now that Jill has finally "found her voice" .

 

[felicemastronzo]

The MC does say whatevers in the guidelines won't change how he feels or stop him being with her.

I agree the scene is paper thin and lazy but it does try to explain their laissez faire attitude.

the problem of any negative consequences of a teacher-student relationship is all on Bella's shoulders, MC can only assure her that he is convinced of his choice

I don't doubt that they would have feced the problem, I'm still amazed that they didn't think it was worth taking a look at this regulation... even with the smartphone on the fly in case...

but you know that if you don't postpone solving a problem forever, you'll only half enjoy it

Sure, I mean, we all agree that the moment Bella started speaking about the elephants in their relation the Husband theme need to arise, but after seeing the reactions after the first two themes it became pretty clear to both them that talking about Bella marriage at that point will complete destroy the date, and after the conclusion of the first date, ruining this will probably mean the end of their relation.

Sure probably any reasonable adult will see that the missing husband problem need to be talked and postponing the issue will just jeopardize everything, but come on, the MC is just a 19 years old kid that is having a date with possibly his first love, and yes, he might be a bit more mature that his peers thanks to his upbringing, but he is still a kid. So even thought he knows there is a issue left to speak about, he just ignore it for the sake of saving the date

Yes, but MC is only half the apple (however, from my point of view, if it was a choice to let it go, he should have at least thought of it explicitly).
what is Bella's excuse? she is the married woman who is asking a student for an absolute vote for her. it is up to her to be clear before convincing, as you say, a boy.

the fact that THE PROBLEM is left out takes away all meaning from the whole scene. what is the point of promises when it could all end the next morning with James' return? what cruel request is it to ask MC to end every other story of his, when it is unknown whether Bella is really free or not?

The marriage will have to come up during Jill and Bella's confrontation in (hopefully) the next episode, there's no way Jill won't mention it. The only question to me is if MC will be present during that scene or not. DPC might try to just make it a scene between Jill and Bella and keep MC in the dark until the next EP or whatever.
It's honestly one of my most awaited scenes, if their little argument during EP6 was anything to go by, it will be quite a fun catfight to watch, even more so now that Jill has finally "found her voice" .

I hope so, it is very likely

actually if they at least talk about it between the two of them we can also assume that they talk about it with MC anyway

like Maya never telling MC what she really said to Sage, it could be that she did it "off stage", it's acceptable

 

[SlavaFW]

Faced with a very strange bug. In episode 8, during the free movement of the characters room, you need to log in to the Contact app and call a whole bunch of characters. But I can't do that. The next scene cannot be started. A message pops up: "You still have things to do." What should I do, guys?

 

[hakuna-matata]

Here's another food for thought, what if Bella's husband is in prison?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Here's another food for thought, what if Bella's husband is in prison?

Bella wouldn't make a big deal out of it... and my guess is Burke would have pointed this out in one of his delicate approaches....

 

[BeingADikDik]

Here's another food for thought, what if Bella's husband is in prison?

Bella's husband is probably in a vegetative state in the locked room. Bella has to see him everyday as his caregiver, but he's gone. She 'forgives him' for the pain his state has put her through, but she nonetheless feels guilty about moving on / living her life.

He got put into a vegetative state due to an accident on a construction site run by Neil. (He wasn't wearing a hard hat ...)

 

[hakuna-matata]

Bella wouldn't make a big deal out of it... and my guess is Burke would have pointed this out in one of his delicate approaches....

That's if Burke would know if he's in prison.

 

[mindern]

Bella's husband is probably in a vegetative state in the locked room. Bella has to see him everyday as his caregiver, but he's gone. She 'forgives him' for the pain his state has put her through, but she nonetheless feels guilty about moving on / living her life.

He got put into a vegetative state due to an accident on a construction site run by Neil. (He wasn't wearing a hard hat ...)

People have proposed this before. It’s not really a part time job to be looking after someone in a coma. She couldn’t be just casually spending the night at other people’s houses or having overnight guests and never interacting with him.

The MC lived with her for a while. Stays the night a few times… she couldn’t have even slipped a care worker past everyone to pick-up the slack.

If DPC goes that way it’s gonna be one of the more absurd suspension of disbeliefs.

 

[felicemastronzo]

That's if Burke would know if he's in prison.

Burke both as a role and as a personal interest in Bella has every interest in being informed about her.

And that's not something that's very easily hidden...not as a last name at least....

People have proposed this before. It’s not really a part time job to be looking after someone in a coma. She couldn’t be just casually spending the night at other people’s houses or having overnight guests and never interacting with him.

The MC lived with her for a while. Stays the night a few times… she couldn’t have even slipped a care worker past everyone to pick-up the slack.

If DPC goes that way it’s gonna be one of the more absurd suspension of disbeliefs.

I wouldn't want PDC to take it as a competition....

This is why I've said in the past that these surprise twist are the worst thing in the story. I'm not saying that because I dislike twist (I do dislike them but it's besides the point), I say it because DPC is so bad at setting them up and tries to draw it out so much that the whole structure just collapses.

when these twists are blatantly dragged in time it's pretty terrible


luckily it didn't happen that often, the Sage's parents plot twist was in the same chapter for example (before it wasn't that relevant) so this way it's acceptable

 

[vogelbeest]

Faced with a very strange bug. In episode 8, during the free movement of the characters room, you need to log in to the Contact app and call a whole bunch of characters. But I can't do that. The next scene cannot be started. A message pops up: "You still have things to do." What should I do, guys?

Check your questlog, normally you get that message when you need to do something before you can proceed.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Burke both as a role and as a personal interest in Bella has every interest in being informed about her.

And that's not something that's very easily hidden...not as a last name at least....

He could also be hitting on her knowing he's in prison. He doesn't necessarily have to mention it. "I'll try to seduce because she must be lonely"

 

[madfam]

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