vogelbeest

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BS. When have you ever heard a woman in real life say, I want to know more about your mother, please tell me all. Being interested in family is one thing, but a woman wants to know that she is your number 1 and not number 2 behind mommy. If you talk about the mother she will get vibes that you are childish and are not ready to leave the nest. I will say that Maya is the exception to the rule, because she is just bizarre.
Not on the first date ofcourse, but you are forgetting real life is more then first dates, ignoring family and friends at some point will be a certain dealbreaker, after you know you like eachother you will also want to know about the families. Yes a mommyboy will not be a desirable man but you're not gonna know that's the case if you're not interested to begin with.

But to bring that back to Maya, how on earth you figure a guy that you know has lost his mother at birth, has had no mother figure in life but still is a mother's boy? You're not even trying to make sense.
 

shazba

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You're refusing to be friends with someone just because they won't date you? Jill's not the bitch in that scenario.
No, you missed the point completely. After the mc saves her from completely humiliating herself at the concert, she humiliates him in a very public dumping.

A girl has every right to accept or decline a guy, but to humiliate a guy like that, should only be if he deserves it.

Of course if he'd been fucking every other girl on campus, including Bella... :sneaky:
 

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Not on the first date ofcourse, but you are forgetting real life is more then first dates, ignoring family and friends at some point will be a certain dealbreaker, after you know you like eachother you will also want to know about the families. Yes a mommyboy will not be a desirable man but you're not gonna know that's the case if you're not interested to begin with.

But to bring that back to Maya, how on earth you figure a guy that you know has lost his mother at birth, has had no mother figure in life but still is a mother's boy? You're not even trying to make sense.
That's some severe mother-in-law complex ;) Ofcourse you're not gonna talk about your mother when on that romantic date,
Maya and MC were on a romantic date. Watching movies with no one else around is just Maya's thing. Again, she is weird so she may be interested in mothers, but a woman you're dating in rl is not going to do that. And if you do, it certainly won't be a turn on and that was the original point. If you're ready for marriage ok, but we are talking about the dating stages that MC is currently at. Mother talk = Atacama desert.
 

Kellermann

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No, you missed the point completely. After the mc saves her from completely humiliating herself at the concert, she humiliates him in a very public dumping.

A girl has every right to accept or decline a guy, but to humiliate a guy like that, should only be if he deserves it.

Of course if he'd been fucking every other girl on campus, including Bella... :sneaky:
:unsure: I suppose that's true. I wasn't really interested in Jill even when playing her path (while romancing others too), so it never bothered me that much when I got rejected. I just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and left and then thought...guess I'll go fuck her best friend.

What does annoy me is the rejection based upon not going to Jill picnic instead of taking care of a sick friend. Most players I've seen also feel the same way about that. It's not one of the better logic moments in game.
 

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Because women make good friends. Some of my best friends are women. I always tell my daughter to never date a guy who doesn't have at least a couple female friends. It's a big fucking red flag.
It's stupid. Perhaps the difference of cultures affects here, but we in Russia do not think so. Imagine. At night in the cold, your car stalled. You need help. You're calling a female friend and a male friend. Who is more willing to come to the rescue? Obviously a man. Of course, I myself sometimes go to cafes with guys and girls, but I can't call girls friends.
A friend for me is someone who is ready at any moment - at night or during the day, when it's warm or cold - to come to the rescue. Will a woman go with me to beat the muzzles? Will it help with the repair of the car?
 

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It's stupid. Perhaps the difference of cultures affects here, but we in Russia do not think so. Imagine. At night in the cold, your car stalled. You need help. You're calling a female friend and a male friend. Who is more willing to come to the rescue? Obviously a man. Of course, I myself sometimes go to cafes with guys and girls, but I can't call girls friends.
A friend for me is someone who is ready at any moment - at night or during the day, when it's warm or cold - to come to the rescue. Will a woman go with me to beat the muzzles? Will it help with the repair of the car?
I think you might be conflating the term "friend" with the term "ally." Friendship does not have to be so transactional. Read Plato's Symposium under the heading of "phile" for the love that comes from common interests and sharing wisdom.
 
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Because women make good friends. Some of my best friends are women. I always tell my daughter to never date a guy who doesn't have at least a couple female friends. It's a big fucking red flag.
I was going to refute that but after thinking it through, you're kinda right. Despite not chasing relationships, I did end up being buddies with enough girls to count on both hands and beyond that if we start including friendly acquaintances.
I dunno about red flags but it would certainly be weird to not have at least a couple female friends.
 
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vogelbeest

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Maya and MC were on a romantic date. Watching movies with no one else around is just Maya's thing. Again, she is weird so she may be interested in mothers, but a woman you're dating in rl is not going to do that. And if you do, it certainly won't be a turn on and that was the original point. If you're ready for marriage ok, but we are talking about the dating stages that MC is currently at. Mother talk = Atacama desert.
Well, Maya is a bit different, i just don't see the problem as that severe, in the beginning Maya is not so much trying to woo you anyway, she tells you she has a boyfriend when she thinks you might be interested in her, it's all kinda weird and the longer you get to interact with her the more mixed signals she is sending. Probably the way you get involved with her has to do least with the general way things happen in real life compared to other Li's. Only after you get into a throuple with her and Josy it seems kinda real but then again there's not really much happening there romanticly compared to some others either.
 

PashafromRussia

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I think you might be conflating the term "friend" with the term "ally." Friendship does not have to be so transactional. Read Plato's Symposium under the heading of "phile" for the love that comes from common interests and sharing wisdom.
This shit has nothing to do with reality. A friend is someone who is willing to risk his health and something more for you. A friend is practically a brother. If you don't go offtop and give examples from the game, then if Derek was in real life, I would like such a friend. He's funny, he's willing to do a lot for you. Has any woman from the game done anything more for MC like Derek? Female friendship is the biggest hypocrisy in life. A woman will never be friends with you just like that.
 

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Well, Maya is a bit different, i just don't see the problem as that severe, in the beginning Maya is not so much trying to woo you anyway, she tells you she has a boyfriend when she thinks you might be interested in her, it's all kinda weird and the longer you get to interact with her the more mixed signals she is sending. Probably the way you get involved with her has to do least with the general way things happen in real life compared to other Li's. Only after you get into a throuple with her and Josy it seems kinda real but then again there's not really much happening there romanticly compared to some others either.
It just seems zany to be talking about mothers one moment and the next you're balls deep in Maya. It's more funny to me than anything....."oh yes MC talk about your dead mother while you fingerbang me." But hey, I don't want to kink shame. I've played F95 games where my MCs have done a lot more depraved things than that :giggle:
 
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This shit has nothing to do with reality. A friend is someone who is willing to risk his health and something more for you. A friend is practically a brother. If you don't go offtop and give examples from the game, then if Derek was in real life, I would like such a friend. He's funny, he's willing to do a lot for you. Has any woman from the game done anything more for MC like Derek? Female friendship is the biggest hypocrisy in life. A woman will never be friends with you just like that.
Allow me a moment to digress in the interest of providing a more considerate response to your assertions. "That shit has nothing to do with reality" is the root of your problem. It is obvious that you and I view other human beings very differently. A fellow human being is more than what they are willing or able to do for you. I grew up with a friend who had broken his neck and was a quadriplegic. What was he able to do for me? Basically nothing but listen to me and play video games together. Does that mean our friendship had no value? No, that is not the case. I've also bit my tongue concerning your view that women are incapable or unable to perform such simple tasks as changing a tire because I consider it irrelevance. The women I served with in the army didn't even break a sweat performing such simple operator-level maintenance. A woman also saved my life when I was wounded and cared for me until I could get medical attention. I concede that perhaps serving with women in the armed forces, fighting and killing at their side, might have given me a divergent view of women than yours. But I don't think that it is cultural differences that are at the root of this bizarre conversation that we are having. I have a suspicion that these comments are not long for the world anyway because a mod will delete your insulting remarks and my retorts as off-topic. But before our comments disappear in the aether I do implore you to fix your heart. Your attitude toward friendship is going to damage your relationships with men and women alike.
 

vogelbeest

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It just seems zany to be talking about mothers one moment and the next you're balls deep in Maya.
Well to be fair, Sage tells you she's hiding from her father and very soon after that she invites you to go wild on Tybalts bed.
If you decided to go for it you later must realise not only Burke is your possible father-in-law but you also nailed his girl on her brothers bed....
 
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Kellermann

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Well to be fair, Sage tells you she's hiding from her father and very soon after that she invites you to go wild on Tybalts bed.
If you decided to go for it you later must realise not only Burke is your possible father-in-law but you also nailed his girl on her brothers bed....
Maybe this is considered foreplay in the Dr Pink cake household.
I've never been to Sweden, so I don't know how they do things there. ;)
 
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