VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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[StingerWolf]

So, about the ending

Reaction 1.

This reaction appears if the player did not fuck Jade and did not choose Sage in the finale of the 8th episode. Here he is completely calm, but still it is unclear why he ran to the toilet. Probably he really wanted to take a shit urgently, because before an important meeting he ate some spicy Mexican tacos.

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Reaction 2.

elif ep4_fuckedJade or branchSage:

Accordingly, this reaction appears if you either took the path of Others and fuck Jade or if you chose Sage without entering into a relationship with Jade. In this scenario, in addition to spicy tacos, Tremolo imagines how he will talk to Jade, who jerked off to him in class.

Reaction 3.

if branchSage and ep4_fuckedJade:

The very case when the player ate spicy tacos in Juan's restaurant, then went to Rione and ate sushi with her, and then went to a meeting with the Burkes, where it suddenly turned out that Jade, whom you rejected for the sake of big tits of Sage, is her mother and you are in complete ass and think only about spicy tacos

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P.S. Don't eat spicy Juan tacos before an important meeting so that you don't lock yourself in the toilet later.

I got the first. Full DIK score, Fucked Jade(and everyone else possible), chose Other. Would be interesting to see it with a CHIK score.

 

[Foradult]

do i have to play season 1 to play season 2?? i lost all of my saves

 

[Naxer]

So, about the ending

Reaction 1.

This reaction appears if the player did not fuck Jade and did not choose Sage in the finale of the 8th episode. Here he is completely calm, but still it is unclear why he ran to the toilet. Probably he really wanted to take a shit urgently, because before an important meeting he ate some spicy Mexican tacos.

View attachment 1690160

Reaction 2.

elif ep4_fuckedJade or branchSage:

Accordingly, such a reaction appears if you either followed the path of Others and fucked Jade, or if you chose Sage without entering into a relationship with Jade. In this scenario, in addition to the spicy tacos, Tremolo imagines how he will talk to Jade, who jerked him off in class.

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Reaction 3.

if branchSage and ep4_fuckedJade:

The very case when the player ate spicy tacos in Juan's restaurant, then went to Rione and ate sushi with her, and then went to a meeting with the Burkes, where it suddenly turned out that Jade, whom you rejected for the sake of big tits of Sage, is her mother and you are in complete ass and think only about spicy tacos

View attachment 1690187

P.S. Don't eat spicy Juan tacos before an important meeting so that you don't lock yourself in the toilet later.

Well, then its time to re-start the game, make another DIK-Neutral gameplay without screwing Jade.

 

[shazba]

Shazba, you know I love you but I think you're being willfully obtuse here. The problem isn't needing multiple saves; I've got oodles of saves. The problem is that I don't believe any of them will let me make the choices I actually care about.

You quip that the other girls won't be kicked to the wayside just because Zoey shows up but I'm not so sure. Yes, the other girls will definitely have screen time, but I'm not here to rack up lewd scenes; I'm here for the story and the romance. Both of those need not just screen time, they need progression. Zoey, as presented thus far, feels like regression.

BaDIK is a soap opera, so drama is inevitable. And the MC does have his own personality, so some of the drama is going to flow from that. I accept both of those points. But as long as I'm allowed to make choices for the MC, I expect those choices to mean something. If I choose to pursue Maya and Josy to the exclusion of all others, I don't just want the MC to fool around with them when he has an empty spot in his schedule. I want him to prioritize them. That's where DPC dropped the ball in Season 2, and where I'm afraid he's going to do it again in Season 3.

Remember, it was DPC who amped up the 'crossroads' to 11 in Episode 8. The MC supposedly realized that showing undiscussed affection to multiple girls was unfair and either committed to a single relationship, or to making it clear that he *wasn't* interested in a relationship at this time. I was willing to chalk the MC's histrionics over the Maya/Josy crisis in Episode 4 up to him being a young, horny kid. But now we've been explicitly told that he's matured, so I expect him to handle both his relationship and any adversity differently in Season 3. DPC called the tune and he needs to pay the piper.

Just to be clear, that doesn't mean Zoey can't return or that the MC can't have complicated feelings towards her. It's fine for her to create additional drama... *as long as it flows from my choices*. That's the key. DPC can't just assume direct control and make drama happen simply because it looks good on paper. Not after he forced us into a supposedly heartfelt choice. New drama needs to flow from the new situation, otherwise the impact of both the choice and the drama is negated.

Which brings us back to Zoey. Again, the MC supposedly just committed himself to either a single relationship, or to avoiding a relationship until he was ready to take it seriously. If that decision is to have any meaning, the MC can't just abandon it the first time a 'new' girl has some chemistry with him. If an MC who committed to one of the main girls doesn't prioritize her/them over Zoey, he obviously wasn't taking the choice seriously in the first place.

Sure, he has a history with Zoey. But as the Interlude shows, that history was extremely shallow. Even his lame discussion with Bella about elephants (except, you know, the really, really obvious one) was more significant than drawing Zoey's Z-Chord. Zoey will always be special to him, but she's not in some privileged position relative to the other unchosen girls. Asserting otherwise won't amp up the drama, it will deflate it.

Now, there are ways to add Zoey to the mix that don't run afoul of the crossroads. Unfortunately, they require that Zoey's impact vary considerably based on our choices. In an Others run, for example, Zoey would be a reason for him to rethink his decision; we could get some drama out of the MC deciding whether playing the field is worth blowing his one shot to patch things up with her. In a M/J or Bella run, Zoey could be a problem not because the MC wants to reunite but because he can't explain his secret relationship to her; how far will he go to protect that secret? In a Sage or Jill run, on the other hand, the drama would be limited to letting Zoey down easily.

If DPC is willing and able to tailor Zoey's role in that manner, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong to panic over the Interlude. But I hope you'll forgive me if I'm not optimistic based on what we've seen so far. Giving Zoey her own Interlude doesn't suggest she's going to be a minor player in Season 3. And having an MC who didn't fuck Jade still hide in the Burke's bathroom doesn't suggest DPC has learned not to force the drama.

Everything I see suggests that Season 3 will be to all the LIs what Season 2 was for M/J: a long digression that ultimately leaves us making the same choice all over again at the end rather than developing that choice. Sure, Season 4 will probably be different when we finally get there, but that's a long way off. So yeah, I remain worried about Zoey and frankly, I think you should be, too.

tl;dr:
I'm not worried Zoey is going to steal the other LIs' lewd scenes, I'm worried she's going to steal the focus that should be theirs in the wake of the crossroads. And no number of saves can help against that unless DPC is willing to dial down Zoey based on our actions. I'm not holding my breath.



I'd say the MC and Zoey were legitimate best friends, but that their friendship was rather shallow. That's hardly unrealistic, but as I just beat into the ground, it doesn't leave Zoey well positioned in the wake of the crossroads.

To be honest, what you're looking for is the one thing this game has never delivered on.

In real life, when you were young and you were into a girl and the relationship became sexual, you hung out together lots, and fucked every chance you could get (in the car, in her parents' lounge room, in her bedroom, at the beach, you get the point...) In this game the mc is lucky if he fucks the same girls twice in a week.

All AVNs love to drag the sexual progression at a snail's pace since they have nothing else to offer once you've hit all bases.

While BaDIK is more about the story than the sex, it would still stand to reason that the mc would have been waaaaay more sexual with M&J once they ended in the throuple in ep4. The scene with Josy and the mc in the bathroom at the gym was a highlight for me.

Once Jill lost her virginity, I'd expect her to be pining for the mc (she only just lost her virginity so I can't conclude that hasn't happened).

Bella is probably more balanced, she's old enough to have gotten over the initial infatuation with a guy and with sex. Although she was keen to get over her dry spell.

Sage seems like the only character that wants to fuck all the time (obviously that's Chad's fault).

But anyway, getting back to the point, this game isn't going to allow to spend a lot of time progressing the relationship with your chosen LI. Each LI will get one or two scenes an episode if they are lucky, and mostly it's superficial.

Those few scenes are tied in among the drama that propels the story along, and Zoey is exactly the kind of drama this game revels in.

Each to their own of course, but I play this game for the fun factor, the comedy and the drama. I couldn't give a fuck about the romance.

The only game that I've played here that made the development of a relationship feel truly sincere was "A Town Uncovered". That's a pretty weird game actually, but the mc can get involved with his teacher and I thought that was done fantastically. I can't vouch for the rest of the game though.

 

[sixart]

Wow! You're confirming one of my posts? I already pointed out in a previous post that there is a lack of serious communication between the two. But good.

Not sure what you mean... I said nothing else than this ^ from the moment Zoey was brought back at the end of E8... ( true though I'm not going in large as you and go around this or that for weeks and months )
So yeah if we look at it from that perspective I'm confirming one of your post... but it was not influenced

The decision was not made at the Station. Yes, the MC was very disappointed and hurt. But he realized there was more than friendship there. So the opposite of what you wrote.

What you write here is denial of reality which Fuckface did not do... He understood what this moving to San Diego meant from that point and asserted it accordingly... the rest what you imply is just wishful thinking Sadly that's not how life works !

I'd say the MC and Zoey were legitimate best friends, but that their friendship was rather shallow. That's hardly unrealistic, but as I just beat into the ground, it doesn't leave Zoey well positioned in the wake of the crossroads.

Best friends friendship cannot be shallow... best friends talk to each other ( that is what elevates it to the higher level ) These two were friends with benefits... or fuckbuddies if that is liked better ( though it's the same ) Zoeys position is pretty straightforward to me... made a mistake... tries to fix it... ( hopefully ! ) dependent on the player results in......... ( insert whatever you wish to have with Zoey ) mine is she fails ! Choices and consequences... for her for Fuckface for everyone... which leaves this situation at the only logical conclusion... shitstorm dead ahead !

Edit : dalli_x nice one on the theory of B&R location... but read that intel once more !!! I have my roots in NY but live in this shithole ! SHE is located 7 miles from you and where " shithole " is... basically no word from where we are !

 

[vogelbeest]

How could you leave out Summer's Gone and Hillside and A.O.A Academy?

Like i said, there's more very good titles out there, (and although i like Hillside it's not one i would rank "A", a bit too much blueballing syndrome in that game, and it's loosing momentum with the underlying story, atleast for now... )
But if i would put my total favourites list here, there would always be some missing or wrongly there in other's opinion.
It's hard to compete with BaDik for any title in terms of sheer volume and total package, but there's alot gems out there that have better writing or better story or just better visuals or whatever else.

 

[PashafromRussia]

f DPC is willing and able to tailor Zoey's role in that manner, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong to panic over the Interlude. But I hope you'll forgive me if I'm not optimistic based on what we've seen so far. Giving Zoey her own Interlude doesn't suggest she's going to be a minor player in Season 3. And having an MC who didn't fuck Jade still hide in the Burke's bathroom doesn't suggest DPC has learned not to force the drama.

Zoey is really going to be difficult to integrate into the current cast. A lot of time has passed for MС, he forgot about her and it would be stupid (more for DPC than for MC) to immediately rush to fuck her hot ass. The only way it can influence to MC (and the DPC will certainly go this way) is to take advantage of the problems in the relationship of MC with the chosen LI, which will certainly be.
Sage is a problem with Jade and Quinn.
Josie/Maya is a choice between them and Jill, which has been postponed for episode 9.
Bella/Jill is a drama caused by the choice of one of the parties.
Solo paths seem to me to be ignored by Pink itself. Unfortunately, they don't make any sense.
The title of the episode itself hints at some kind of rivalry for MС, which will only make sense if MС romanced several girls at the same time. I think solo paths in season 3 will be the most controversial and weak.

 

[StingerWolf]

It's a Action Lessons reference.
Similar renders are shown before bad things happen.

Ah, Al? Ok, I get it now

 

[Dnutz]

After we waiting a few months to get this update, we have to wait another 6 months for episode 9

ahh fuck me there goes summer *SADNESS*

 

[ename144]

To be honest, what you're looking for is the one thing this game has never delivered on.

In real life, when you were young and you were into a girl and the relationship became sexual, you hung out together lots, and fucked every chance you could get (in the car, in her parents' lounge room, in her bedroom, at the beach, you get the point...) In this game the mc is lucky if he fucks the same girls twice in a week.

All AVNs love to drag the sexual progression at a snail's pace since they have nothing else to offer once you've hit all bases.

While BaDIK is more about the story than the sex, it would still stand to reason that the mc would have been waaaaay more sexual with M&J once they ended in the throuple in ep4. The scene with Josy and the mc in the bathroom at the gym was a highlight for me.

Once Jill lost her virginity, I'd expect her to be pining for the mc (she only just lost her virginity so I can't conclude that hasn't happened).

Bella is probably more balanced, she's old enough to have gotten over the initial infatuation with a guy and with sex. Although she was keen to get over her dry spell.

Sage seems like the only character that wants to fuck all the time (obviously that's Chad's fault).

But anyway, getting back to the point, this game isn't going to allow to spend a lot of time progressing the relationship with your chosen LI. Each LI will get one or two scenes an episode if they are lucky, and mostly it's superficial.

Those few scenes are tied in among the drama that propels the story along, and Zoey is exactly the kind of drama this game revels in.

Each to their own of course, but I play this game for the fun factor, the comedy and the drama. I couldn't give a fuck about the romance.

The only game that I've played here that made the development of a relationship feel truly sincere was "A Town Uncovered". That's a pretty weird game actually, but the mc can get involved with his teacher and I thought that was done fantastically. I can't vouch for the rest of the game though.

Again, you're conflating lewd scenes with content and focus. I'm not expecting the MC to get more lewd scenes with a LI if he picks her. I'm expecting him to act differently towards that LI and towards others if he picks her. That's well within DPCs power to do, especially now that he doesn't need to make the one or two lewd scenes LIs get available universally.

But that can't happen if the MC's response to Zoey is essentially the same on all branches. That's what I'm worried about.

 

[JNolan92]

How could you leave out Summer's Gone and Hillside and A.O.A Academy?

While I haven't played the other two games, I have played AOA and I still haven't finished it yet, but I enjoyed it in the beginning, but it got like too story heavy for me. All the girls seem to have sad backstories and there's hardly any nudity or sex scenes. It's all about protecting Valery from the cartel. And the dev is such a cocktease with Jenny, who I really like and want to do stuff with yet I haven't done anything with her at all, aside from maybe that titty fuck or whatever it was towards the beginning (I think you can do that Jenny, right?). Also all the grammatical errors and misspellings... I really want that game to be good but it seems like the dev forgot what kind of game he was making and got too into the story of the cartel and Valery.

 

[PashafromRussia]

ahh fuck me there goes summer *SADNESS*

I'm thinking early. He has already written the script for the new episode (I think so). The title is ready, several animations and renderings. But in any case, you should not expect it before July.

 

[AssMan14]

Has anyone figured out if there is any influence of the Interlude choices on the character of Zoey that will be shown in the future? (like in game files)

By type will it be more DIK or CHICK etc

 

[Cabin Fever]

Really not what I was expecting, it really deviates from the continuation of the main plot, I miss my Bella, and now have to wait another 6 months to proceed the story

So help me understand this. What exactly were you expecting after it's been mentioned time and again before the interlude release that it is just filling in Zoey's backstory and that it's not going to move forward the main plot at all?

 

[Valoryn]

Has anyone figured out if there is any influence of the Interlude choices on the character of Zoey that will be shown in the future? (like in game files)

By type will it be more DIK or CHICK etc

The only important choice in the interlude was whether Zoey calmy confronts Emma about the rooster post or grabbing the phone from her. Don't know how it'll be used in season 3.

 

[vogelbeest]

Has anyone figured out if there is any influence of the Interlude choices on the character of Zoey that will be shown in the future? (like in game files)

By type will it be more DIK or CHICK etc

Yeah, Walter Victor pointed out the variables in some of his posts, standard Zoey is "DIK" but true/false will be applied after the interlude, also 2 other variables are being saved for either talking with Ems or getting back at her.
So yeah it's safe to assume your playthrough in the interlude decides what type Zoey will be in later episodes...

 

[kays]

wait, in season 3 many of the old girls r gone? are they coming back?

 

[vogelbeest]

wait, in season 3 many of the old girls r gone? are they coming back?

They're not in the interlude since that's basicly the introduction of Zoey into the main story. But all will be back in ep.9.

 

[Casiope]

I share the criticism of many here about the interlude: for three years, we have been pushed to prove our commitment to potential love interests. The timing of introducing a new one right after the choice was made is way too late.

I understand the reasons behind the standalone: Dr PinkCake needed a pause between important episodes in order to experiment with a new narrative style; but this breaks the dynamic with the feeling that the crossroads was flawed. Once again the creator favors drama (the unexpected ex who comes back for love) to better disrupt the players' intentions.

Another negative point is the constant arrival of new characters to the point that even regular players get lost. Maybe it's time to deepen the existing ones rather than adding Becky, Bianca, Vixxens… I worry that this extensive cast may dilute the writing process.

So, by mimicking Life Is Stange series, Dr PinkCake undercuts the authenticity of Being a DIK. One thing is for sure: with a universe that keeps expanding, the creator shows no inclination to put an end to his game.