VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[MrBubu]

Yeah Yeah Yeah, people alway find an excuse to make themself the victim, for cheating. .
I think you are the type of player, who finish Elden Ring by abusing a bug, and you finish it in 2 minute.
Why there is Wall in the game, I hate going around it, or opening a door.

Whatever man, you dont ruin my experience so I don't care , I just think it would be funny if DPC found a way to fuck with the modders

I would normally agree, but it was a pain to replay everything from chapter 3 because you shouldn't fuck Maya if you want the full scene in chapter 6.

Actually, the problem is replaying all the minigames, I really enjoy them but just the once, not every time I want to try something different.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

I just think it would be funny if DPC found a way to fuck with the modders

You're a bit of a sadist huh?
Hate to disappoint I don't waste time on games like Eldenring either..

I would normally agree, but it was a pain to replay everything from chapter 3 because you shouldn't fuck Maya if you want the full scene in chapter 6.

Actually, the problem is replaying all the minigames, I really enjoy them but just the once, not every time I want to try something different.

This! and so many of these sort of situations happening, is exactly what I was referring too. No reason to replay minigames/freeroam etc. it's just dumb.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I would normally agree, but it was a pain to replay everything from chapter 3 because you shouldn't fuck Maya if you want the full scene in chapter 6.

Yeah, I give you that one. that was a bit meh.
Still, the game is not intended to give you everything in the first. This makes the game good, you play one path , you don't have to immediately play the other. its just a fucking gallery, half of mine is still empty, because I'm just not interested in those .

But, anyway, I think the area of modded save allowing you to get everything will be over, with the Branching.

 

[Ilhares]

For that you have the madame to fulfill each of your fetishes

There's always Madame as an option...

I know I'm not alone in this feeling..

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So what are all the hypotheses out there about Madame Rose

I have seen the view of her being Bianca's mother from Ilhares, which I lean towards Miranda; but I cannot bridge the two

See? Some days I don't even have to actually post, because somebody pays attention.

Bianca and Miranda have some similarities, but limit your focus to the lower part of her face. The lips and nose, particularly. It's been 20+ years. She's gotten older looking, and she stopped bleaching her hair years ago. Best way to make money? Take it from people who want to throw it away.

Though from a more practical standpoint, I think DPC just put her in there to cater to people with severe mommy issues and as a cash sink. If we really just needed more women to bang at the club he could have opened up Brandi or the bartender, or arranged more chance meetings with some of the Swyper girls. Instead he gave the game the oldest(assumed) and least attractive that so far has only fucked the MC's wallet.

 

[PashafromRussia]

So what are all the hypotheses out there about Madame Rose Does her name indicate some unusual relation she has with the club? why has she kept her eye mask on so far? to hide her identity? and what would it be? why does she charge exorbitant prices for her services? and if she were to give blow job to a customer already, why should one have to pay extra for touching and sucking on tits? Why did DPC dedicated so much efforts to her model (those you haven't seen on Jill and Maya) and animations, all the details like visible delicate veins and spots on her skin and more advanced and realistic depiction about contours of her face?

Madame's model is similar to Nora's model, so Madame may be Nora, moonlighting in a strip club. Okay, this is a joke.
Madame will certainly play some role in the future, but their relationship is too fragmentary, and the sex scenes were not liked by the public, so I think we will not see Madame in a future update. And therefore, instead of Madame, there will be some other characters. Perhaps with the help of Madame, he decided to introduce a new mechanics of booty call, which will be especially relevant on such branches as Jill, where there will obviously be very few sex scenes. They will not affect the relationship with Jill, but will add variety to her path.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Indeed. Savefiles are just variables. One can even create mod to create (real or virtual) save files

But what if it doesn't contain the variables in the first place? Yes your imported file contain all the choice you made until that point, but from that point, from episode 3. There is no more Affinity variables because its set in stone for that save file. If you are on Bella path, you wont even have the Quinn, or Sage, or Josy variables at all. Because now they all supposed to be separated.
May be there is a generic game file, that contain all and that can be manipulated, I dont know, how its works.

You're a bit of a sadist huh?
Hate to disappoint I don't waste time on games like Eldenring either..

No, I'm just allergic to Bullshit justifications. But as I said, you dont ruin my experience so I dont care in that case, I just think it would be funny. .
It's always funny, when a new episode came in and the first couple of page filled with people who are only show up in those time, and start asking around why my game crashed, right after of course before the first user ask, for Full save 2 minute after the game was just uploaded

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

No, I'm just allergic to Bullshit justifications. But as I said, you dont ruin my experience so I dont care in that case, I just think it would be funny. .
It's always funny, when a new episode came in and the first couple of page filled with people who are only show up in those time, and start asking around why my game crashed, right after of course before the first user ask, for Full save 2 minute after the game was just uploaded

Oh just sour, cause of all those people who fill page after page with requests for saves and mods as soon as an update drops. Got it.. Yet you contradict yourself by saying it doesn't affect your experience in game, so why not just let people be and have them enjoy a game you clearly like as well, despite them using mods? If it doesn't affect you..Like I said "different strokes for different folks and all that"

Bullshit justifications ? Why would people need to replay a large portion of the game just for "slightly different" branches? Why get locked out of paths after multiple updates? Why ignore or not see all content? What do you do if you want to see all content ?
Why mess about with tons of save files, that lack descriptions of choices? More importantly if you only chose 1 or 2 interests what do you even do if they don't have a lot of screen time in an update? That's the bullshit.. All valid reasons

Especially since the dev makes you replay all the freeroam/minigames and then skip through all that dialogue just because you wanted to end up with a different branch. It's ridiculous and if the dev wanted too he could add a "quick start" or a replay from choice mechanic.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

In fact, (usually) variables in save files are score points or booleans (true/false). There are other variables in programming (like strings of text), but I don't see why a savefile would need 'em. In fact, you can say that's all scorekeeping, since booleans are in fact 0 for false and 1 for true, so it's scorekeeping limited to one. Thus, first, the savefile contains all variables; second, for instance, when you're not in a path, those variables will be 0 (or the default value).
The savefiles have to be standardized otherwise conflicts will happen. One problem that happens and makes old savefiles unusable is when the dev creates new variables in an update and they're not in the old savefile, because Ren'Py launches an error when you try to read a variable that is not defined. So it's a good practice to do those import saves from time to time so you can do a cleanup, throw away what you don't need, and make a new savefile with only what's relevant and the new variables without conflicting with the other stuff.

You quoted the wrong person bud..

 

[MrBubu]

But what if it doesn't contain the variables in the first place? Yes your imported file contain all the choice you made until that point, but from that point, from episode 3. There is no more Affinity variables because its set in stone for that save file. If you are on Bella path, you wont even have the Quinn, or Sage, or Josy variables at all. Because now they all supposed to be separated.
May be there is a generic game file, that contain all and that can be manipulated, I dont know, how its works.

Yes but not, I find DPC is very good at changing small dialogues here and there based on those decisions. So yes technically you are on Bella's path, but how will Jill react to that? Did you kiss her? Did you try or you never showed an interest?

So I don't see how you could get the same quality game if not all the variables were imported so DPC can do his magic.

Sometimes it's not even in the text, it's one look or a smile that is different from a character in the background...

 

[ChipLecsap]

Oh just sour, cause of all those people who fill page after page with requests for saves and mods as soon as an update drops. Got it.. Yet you contradict yourself by saying it doesn't affect your experience in game, so why not just let people be and have them enjoy a game you clearly like as well, despite them using mods? If it doesn't affect you..Like I said "different strokes for different folks and all that"

Bullshit justifications ? Why would people need to replay a large portion of the game just for "slightly different" branches? Why get locked out of paths after multiple updates? Why ignore or not see all content? What do you do if you want to see all content ?
Why mess about with tons of save files, that lack descriptions of choices? More importantly if you only chose 1 or 2 interests what do you even do if they don't have a lot of screen time in an update? That's the bullshit.. All valid reasons

Especially since the dev makes you replay all the freeroam/minigames and then skip through all that dialogue just because you wanted to end up with a different branch. It's ridiculous and if the dev wanted too he could add a "quick start" or a replay from choice mechanic.

Thanks, I needed this, You just legit confirmed my point how fucking fun it would be.

 

[georsak]

I can't find the exact passage now, but I don't have to, because what you wrote actually proves that Wendy and Derek talked about her not being pregnant.

This sentence ("Do you know that he thought I was pregnant, by the way? I may only had sex three times in my life, but it's basic knowledge that you don't get pregnant that fast. Don't you agree?") is from EP7 question round from Wendy and the MC. The part I meant where Wendy tells Derek she is not pregnant is just before that.

Unfortunately I can't post a screenshot of this because in my playthroughs in the freeroam event from EP6 (library) I make a decision that the MC will tell Derek so Wendy will want to talk to him and Derek will also not have sex with Ashley in EP7. This will change the scene. I can only show you the pictures without text where Wendy tells Derek that she is not pregnant.

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Does anyone know how to get this scene? I've only gotten it once in my 12 playthroughs and I don't know what the requirements are. Also, later when Wendy is talking/questioning Fuckface in class, she says that Derek thought she was pregnant, even if you haven't seen this scene. (possible bug)

 

[Walter Victor]

Does anyone know how to get this scene? I've only gotten it once in my 12 playthroughs and I don't know what the requirements are. Also, later when Wendy is talking/questioning Fuckface in class, she says that Derek thought she was pregnant, even if you haven't seen this scene. (possible bug)

In order to get that scene, you need to refuse to help Wendy with Derek during the Library free-roam in Episode 6. And yes, that looks like a continuity issue during the Gender Studies class in Episode 7.

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't know if my game is broken, but my MC despite being a complete dik gets all the women. Maya and josie check, Bella check, sage check.

All of this is very wrong information. . Except that Chick is indeed different, it's either a big pussy, or borderline mentally ill.Because if you only pick the major choice as Chick but, mean while you take every other "Dik status" option. Well, he comes out as a big talk pretender, who soft like a puding, but pretend that he is not.
Dik MC is Cobra Kai, the Johny lawrence version not the Kreese Version, that's a big difference

Everytime I write in this thread I end up regretting it: why wasting my time on these guys?

Hi! Thanks for the info about the girls.
About the massive dik topic, I'm not saying choosing every DIK action all the time, I'm just saying keeping the dikometer In the massive dik position, which, in fact, needs only +20 more dik actions than chick actions (in fact, less... I think +16 suffice). Even in my last run that I decided to be a complete dick, I ended up with ~15% chick actions. I say "love you, daddy", help the guy with the math exercise, give money to the guy buying soda, and say "hello, good morning/evening" to everyone I meet; I even didn't finger Lily's butthole in the Pink Rose (well... that I must admit it's because of negative consequences ). In other words, I'm a very polite guy... with those who deserve.
Most importantly are the major decisions that locks in you in dik position (or chick if you chicken). The only thing I didn't like to is mocking Steve when he's down, though I don't think it's evil if you do since he was always a douche. The other major decisions, you either have to chicken out of fights or refuse to have fun with girls, so, it's quite easy to be locked on dik affinity. There's nothing rude or unethical in them.
Thus, I beg to differ: you don't have to be an asshole to be a massive dik; just normal. You'll be an asshole if you're 100% dik, i.e., all the time, choose dik in every decision.

Just compare how Karen interacts with MC as a dik or as a chick.

Don't bang your teachers if you're interested in the main LI (guess what? don't fuck Sage's mom if you're interested in Sage!); don't take pics of your dick if you're interested in Jill.

Does anyone know how to get this scene? I've only gotten it once in my 12 playthroughs and I don't know what the requirements are. Also, later when Wendy is talking/questioning Fuckface in class, she says that Derek thought she was pregnant, even if you haven't seen this scene. (possible bug)

As someone said - hint: it's me - the Official Walkthrough is your best buddy. Grab it and check it.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

Sorry! (and thanks for noticing me)

No problem! (and anytime I guess?) Do you need some recognition kohai?

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

But what if it doesn't contain the variables in the first place? Yes your imported file contain all the choice you made until that point, but from that point, from episode 3. There is no more Affinity variables because its set in stone for that save file. If you are on Bella path, you wont even have the Quinn, or Sage, or Josy variables at all. Because now they all supposed to be separated.
May be there is a generic game file, that contain all and that can be manipulated, I dont know, how its works.

It would still have the variables but I like the way you're thinking. DPC knows which variables shouldn't be achievable on the same save. Like, Maya/Josy and Quinn scenes, M&J/Jade, Cathy/Bella, Jill/Quinn, whatever. Crashing a game everytime you detect something that shouldn't happen is easy. You can do much more than crashing. Force reset variables, delete the unlocked gallery scenes, delete saves, remove achievements from Steam version, whatever you want, you can even try to delete the mod files. The problem is remembering all the stuff that shouldn't happen. And hiding the mod check deep enough where modders will have a harder time finding it

 

[PashafromRussia]

Everytime I write in this thread I end up regretting it: why wasting my time on these guys?




Just compare how Karen interacts with MC as a dik or as a chick.

Don't bang your teachers if you're interested in the main LI (guess what? don't fuck Sage's mom if you're interested in Sage!); don't take pics of your dick if you're interested in Jill.




As someone said - hint: it's me - the Official Walkthrough is your best buddy. Grab it and check it.

I don't understand what you want to prove, but Dik is no worse than Chick. Pink himself said that with the help of Dik, he wants to convey the atmosphere of student parties, fun and what it means to be young.

A massive dik is not an asshole and a jerk like you say. This is a party animal who obviously won't be liked by shy girls like Karen or Sally and vice versa will be liked by girls from HOTs. And Chick is an ordinary guy who likes romance and relationships. It was a conscious choice of DPC so that the player could play as he wants.

I don't think Jade's fuck will close the Sage branch. There will be a little drama, but in the end, the player's loyalty to the chosen girl on the path of the relationship will be decisive for her path.

Each path has its drawbacks. Chick is an incredibly hypocritical character. The game allows you to fuck literally all the girls and at the end of episode 8 MC hates himself for it, while Dik is rejected by almost all the girls except Sage. That is, for Dik, the choice in episode 8 consists of Sage and Others. The main disadvantage of Dik's way is that almost all girls reject the player and there is no romance on this path, but only fun and sex.
The player chooses what he wants.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

hahahaha! sorry again! I confused the words! What I wanted to say was "notifying me" (for quoting the wrong person, so I could correct it, and not "noticing me"). I should have written "thanks for letting me know" which is more "normal", I guess

Haha, all good! You had me really confused there though Mixing up those words is understandable too I guess ( though I am not a native English speaker myself ) you can give "notice" which means to inform or warn someone of something.
whereas "noticing someone" would mean to treat someone worthy of recognition or attention.

"notifying me" and "letting me know" are both correct and normal. It just never occurred to me that it would be a mix up. Hope my initial reaction wasn't offending, it just made for a funny exchange

 

[captcha69]

wait... u cant romance Jill if u take a photo of ur dik? so even if u are a massive chick, u can cockblock urself (i have to do it) is this true? dont make play the game again.

 

[godkingxerxes]

wait... u cant romance Jill if u take a photo of ur dik? so even if u are a massive chick, u can cockblock urself (i have to do it) is this true? dont make play the game again.

You can't romance Jill if you chose Sage over her.

The dick picture is good to go.

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't understand what you want to prove, but Dik is no worse than Chick. Pink himself said that with the help of Dik, he wants to convey the atmosphere of student parties, fun and what it means to be young.

A massive dik is not an asshole and a jerk like you say. This is a party animal who obviously won't be liked by shy girls like Karen or Sally and vice versa will be liked by girls from HOTs. And Chick is an ordinary guy who likes romance and relationships. It was a conscious choice of DPC so that the player could play as he wants.

I don't think Jade's fuck will close the Sage branch. There will be a little drama, but in the end, the player's loyalty to the chosen girl on the path of the relationship will be decisive for her path.

Each path has its drawbacks. Chick is an incredibly hypocritical character. The game allows you to fuck literally all the girls and at the end of episode 8 MC hates himself for it, while Dik is rejected by almost all the girls except Sage. That is, for Dik, the choice in episode 8 consists of Sage and Others. The main disadvantage of Dik's way is that almost all girls reject the player and there is no romance on this path, but only fun and sex.
The player chooses what he wants.

Did I write that dik path is worse than chick path?

What do I want to prove? Dude, he asked how many choices can you achieve in the Episode 8 finale and I answered.

It's not even worth debating... The game has 169 actions that score either dik or chick up to Ep. 8 (probably a lil' bit more for one or the other since there are actions that only score as dik with no chick counterpart and also the opposite, but I'm using the score of my last run as a parameter). As I pointed out before, you just need 15 more dik actions than chick actions to have major dick status; thus, you can have 92 dik actions vs 77 chick actions and be a massive dik. It's mathematically proven you don't need to be an asshole to be a massive dik (and the same applies to chick... at least I think you don't need to be a complete sissy... never tried...). Of course, the absolute extremes -- all the 169 actions either chick or dik -- would create a complete sissy or a complete dick respectively, but you don't need this to be a massive chick or dik. The game doesn't force this upon you, so playing as a complete asshole or a complete sissy is up to each one. I think it's even possible to play as a sissified asshole choosing the worst of each one and then deciding to be neutral or pick enough actions just to calibrate how chick or dik you want to be. You probably can also be a schizophrenic changing at each status update from dik to neutral than to chick and back and forth. There are many possibilities though unfortunately the game can detect all of them and react accordingly. That's why I don't debate the topic anymore... Because the guy either doesn't know math or wants to prove something to the world (or both). But if he wants to prove the superiority of the "chick mode of being" I think he would better stay away from the world of porn games and go back to the church where he belongs because he's acting like a moralist religious fundamentalist.

I wrote that MC is an asshole as a MASSIVE DIK. There's a big difference between behaving as a dik and behaving as a massive dik ( = always choosing the dik choice). Even his manner of speaking is different.