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Well, I don't compare it to Acting Lessons. . :) They only common thing is that they are both Renpy.
if you look at NTL Games, all of their 3 games is basically the same, surely with different story. But the same type of Milf, Harem, mini games, etc.
AL and Badik are vastly different. However I do admit I stopped caring about AL after a couple of chapter, the burden of playing it after Badik. It was just weak, in my opinion not even worth it to compare. :LOL:

I went for a long Fucking long Rant , but I deleted it because in the end of the day, you right about one thing. We all have different Perspective. :LOL:. what you might feel as a Waste of Time, others might find it fun, and vice versa.

I could say that , I don't care about Bella, Jade, Sandy, Envy, Mel, Sara, the list is long:LOL: , and Every time When DPC work of a render or animation of them, I could consider it as a Waste of precious development Time . But would it be true ? or fair ? Probably not, in fact It would make me look really stupid:LOL:

All I can say, Me Personally, stopped caring about seeing the Ending of the Game, I dont wait the next episode because it's one episode closer to solve the mystery, to the end. I probably won't even live long enough to see.
All is matter, if every new episode give me enough Fun or not ? and so Far it is always more Fun then its not. So a couple of Filler not really bother me. even if its Fucking Madam:LOL:. Who know, may be She is indeed Tommy mother ?!:ROFLMAO:

I think it will be noticeable, When or If, He hit a wall, and just try to stall the time because He doesn't know how to finish. But I don't think we are there Yet.
We will know, because the game will become, repetitive , boring , unoriginal and most of all Un-Fun


Well, after all, I just ended up with some Fucking ranting:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
The problem isn't giving attention to girls I don't like, it's the nature of the attention. The D&G sex scenes were essentially special renders: sexy shots of MC and girls acting out of character in unusual settings. But whereas the actual special renders in Episode 6 represented something like 2% of the overall static render count, the D&G sex scenes were a whopping 52% of the number of animated sex scenes in that episode (and a minimum of of 6% of the total animations, even if each D&G scene was only a single animation).

To me that's way too many resources to squander on random spank material.


the two are quite related, aren't they? Whether Zoey acted like Attila, spreading salt on the ground and not growing anything anymore, or whether she went back to MC while still theoretically being able to stay in San Diego

I kind of see it as a major choice, shaping the character but having (almost always) its own narrative importance
But we never make any impact on the narrative. Zoey remains on good terms with Bret and Jonah (and possibly Jenna) regardless of what she does to Emma. Likewise, Zoey is out of money no matter what decisions we made along the way. The only things that change in San Diego are Zoey's relationship with Emma specifically, Emma's relationship with Bret (and that last one could easily be retconned if DPC wanted to). The lasting impression of the Interlude is entirely down to how Zoey decided to handle a crisis: lash out, or try to mend fences.


I almost feel the opposite about filler content in a game like this.

BaDIK isn't really going anywhere in particular. We have a bunch of random plot lines that are more of an interest than a driving factor, as it's the characters that carry the game.

This is like any good sit-com style tv show, where you tune in each week because you enjoy the characters and the hijinks they get up to. There's just a little bit more fucking in BaDIK.

In those kinds of shows, you're not champing at the bit to get to the end, it's all about the ride. I think BaDIK is more like that.

At this point, I don't even need an end to the game. I've loved the ride so far, and I hope to enjoy the few more years left in the game, but I don't really care what happens, it's more that I like how it happens.

And as far as filler content goes, where's the distinction between the mc going to a party (pretty much any party that's occurred so far, and the much awaited Halloween party) or the mc playing a game of DnG, or paying for a blowjob from the Madame?

The way I see it, all of the events in the game are filler. I don't even know what the main story is. If he's gonna end up with just one girl, then all of the other girls are fillers.

And while the sex scenes in DnG aren't "real", the fact that Sally is grossed out by the mc all the way through the campaigns is so much fun.

And even if this didn't happen for real in the game, it's fun thinking the mc is imagining it:
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Also, I reckon even the Madame would be fine if she just had a personality. That scene, where Jade sits with the mc after class and opens her heart to him regarding her own troubles, made her so much more of an interesting character.

So yeah, I don't mind any content in the game, as long as it's enjoyable, I don't need the story to progress, because what are we progressing to anyway?
BaDIK definitely has a story: it's about the MC's coming of age, meeting his surrogate family and finding his place in the world. Season 1 worked well with that. We meet the cast, see the MC make some big decisions, get hurt and ultimately learn from the experience. The problem is that Season 2 got bogged down in sexy digressions that didn't advance the MC's story (or worse, devolved it).

Yes, we do get the MC leading the DIKs through their time in the wilderness, and that works quite well. But the MC's own story was a mess. We immediately back out of any apparent commitment to M&J, his relationship with Jill endures the miserable blackmail plot and ignores the implications of any involvement with Bella until the very end (if then), and Sage's path ping pongs back and forth between the MC embracing casual sex and insisting on a proper relationship. The Affinity system is now permanent, but the decisions themselves are as muddled as ever. And the MC remains utterly guileless, completely blindsided by who Sage's parents are despite knowing he was going to meet them and wanting to make a good impression. All of this culminates in a "crossroads" that felt completely disconnected from the events that proceeded it, then leads directly into Zoey's melodramatic return the instant the MC supposedly settles on what he wants out of his current life. That's less of an arc and more a scatter plot.

I say we'd be much better off if BaDIK kept a stronger sense of progress about the MC's maturity. That doesn't mean we can't have lots of sexy side content, just that such content should ultimately lead us to a better understanding of who the MC is. Too often DPC seems to look for loopholes that permit the MC to have his cake without being the kind of person who would obtain such a cake.

It gives the impression of padding not because DPC is out of ideas, but because he's purposely delaying the important content until the last minute to avoid ending the story. IMHO, of course.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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the problem is that even if you do like the DnG sex scenes, they are the literal definition of filler content. compare DnG to the upcoming Halloween party and its obvious. even though there will be copious amounts of sex at this party and the girls and MC will be in costume, since its in real life within the story there is a chance for character growth and relationship growth and a real possibility of moving the plot forward in many cases.

DnG ultimately is an overly long daydream by the MC that amounts to nothing (but he still cant fuck Jill lol) yet took DPC a significant amount of time to produce. now if DPC had a team working around the clock to help him out with these little side projects than maybe its not so bad, but the way it stands now is that DnG took time away from the meat of the game while adding nothing significant in return. all the time DPC allocates adds up. who knows how much farther along we could be in the actual narrative or in regards to having like actual dates with the girls or whatever to feel like MC is doing relationship stuff if DPC didnt waste time on a small jerk off section.

its arguable that the time spent on the Interlude could be seen in the same vein as well.
SomboSteel : are you one of DPC's patrons? If you are, why not post this there? If you're not, then in my view you're just wasting your time. Of course you are entitled to have and express your opinion, but arguing here about how the dev spends his time on a site that pirates the game just seems ineffective.

I am one of DPC's patrons and I, for one, enjoy the DnG sections. They allow us to spend some time with Magnar and Sally, who are side characters that I hope will have more screen time in future episodes (particularly Sally), and the scenes are just plain fun.
 

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If Maya becomes the leader of the HOTs, that is not bad writing. Rather, it depends on how DPC will shape Maya's development. Maya really only has one problem that she can't solve on her own. Patrick. Once that problem is fixed, DPC can write a steep development curve for Maya. After all, the potential is there.

She has friends like Josy, Sage, Jill, MC and her brother Derek. Some HOTs have already apologized to her and are seeking contact. Sage said that Maya is the way she used to be. So why shouldn't Maya become like Sage.

In my opinion, Maya has the most potential because Maya is shaped by bad and good experiences. She knows the light and dark sides of life. Maya's feminist beliefs are perfectly fine if you follow the learning lesson with Maya and the MC in EP6.

Read through what feminism really is and don't compare it to what Wendy, Linda, Suzy, Mr. Piggi, etc. think it is.

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Theres not enough instory time. DPC have said that the game will span one year. And that is definitely not enough time for Maya to become a believeable leader of the HOTs. Maybe if we had 3 years and Sage as support. Because Sage is graduating this year and thats the only reasonable role model for Maya. Maya simply have too much shit going on, too much baggage. Not enough support from the rest of the HOT girls, they are too mixed up with Quinns business and their own issues.

The game tells you its not reasonable. Maya is openly dissmissive of the sluts in the HOTs in the first episode. And she takes the gender studies seriously while the other HOTs does not as they straight up tells the MC when he asks. If thats not a huge conflict of interest and source of internal strife for Maya and the HOTs if DPC tries to make her a leader i dont know what to tell you tbh. Its horrible writing as there is not enough time nor cirumstance to make it believable with everything else going on with her.

Im not fighting you on her internal basic capabilities as Ive said this before (added the italics for emphasis)
Definitely this, I like a lot Maya and I know shes definitely not a leader. Shes almost as far from independent as one can be. Shes got an inner fire and moral empathic core that could be cultivated to leadership but it would be years of work to make it happen thats not where the story is, her path is about just breaking free. Shes cornered and lashing out left and right now. Leadership is not even close imo.
What I am fighting you hard at is that there is just too many external factors (core beliefs vs HOTs beliefs, naivete, power struggle, lack of independence and assertiveness, financial issues, family issues, love issues etc etc) that prevents her leadership from being believable, reasonable and logical. Theres too many things that should make it impossible in the time we have. Maya would need an entire games worth of story of her own and loads of support to make her a leader. The HOTs is a nightmare kettle of complicated issues brewing atm. Maya navigating that amidst her own problems? Ridiculous imo.

I love her character (she my favorite with Isabella and Quinn) but a logical or natural leader she aint. Hard no, way too many issues to deal with in the time we have if DPC is going that route, it definitely would be horrible writing to handwave and force her into leadership role. Without the HOTs theres a tiny tinry possibility if she forms a new sorority after the HOTs get imploded and caught by the police as B&R had to shut down due to the uncovered prostitution ring in the epilogue. Huge maybe.
 

Ilhares

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Nicole then for the least is included in the story, as limited as any secondary girl, and Nora probably will be too,
Nicole having limited time in the story is perfectly reasonable. Sure, she's pretty hot, but she's got to work a regular job (assuming she has semi-regular hours at the Pink Rose) and she's raising a young child of school age. I think the only way MC is going to get a lot more time with her is if he puts another kid in her and becomes part of her life moving forward. Which I'm OK with, but practically speaking that should be more of an epilogue resolution, unless he drops out of college himself. I don't think Stanley would be too fond of him working at PR.
Thought it's not a concern for now, I hope that Being a DIK will have a memorable ending. Many movies, series or books that had everything to become iconic have completely botched their endings; yet this is the one thing we remember the most when we think back on them.
Memorable and Good are two very different things, that if you're lucky will overlap.
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I can count projects with a good ending on the fingers of one hand after 5-7 years of constant production (Scrubs, Peaky Blinders) and many more projects with a terrible ending.
Hold on there, Tex. Are we talking about the proper ending of Season 8, or the spin-off show they tried to pass off as Season 9? That's a very important distinction.
SomboSteel : are you one of DPC's patrons?
Dude. I'll freely admit that I disagree with Sombo on a number of points, but this guy took a bullet for the F95 community. He's earned some respect.
 

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Oh man, that scene where the alphas get the "blackmail" pics and see all the pics of her with the different DIKs. Her face, then when she turns around and goes out the window (I think?).... I was dead.

Here you go. Keep it in your toolbox for later.

I'm outta here.gif


Suggested uses:

  • When Dalli starts off with "I have a theory..."
  • Someone posts "[fill in the blank] is the best girl!" (Unless they're talking about Bella, of course.)
  • Any indication of the return of JAL
  • DavDR compliments BaDIK (It means the apocalypse is upon us.)
  • A new episode is released (At least until you've had a chance to play, because it WILL be spoiled here.)



It is also clear what DPC is trying to do so we can shape Zoey. Zoey and the MC have not seen each other in over a year and have not communicated in over half a year. We as players are shaping the MC as DIK, NEUTRAL, or CHICK. But how was the MC in the beginning? With me, strangely enough, always neutral. I assume the MC was neutral when Zoey left. But how does a DIK or NEUTRAL Zoey get along with a CHICK MC when they meet again. Is that perhaps why DPC created the affinity?

I don't think the interlude was a failure. With the flashback to Zoey in EP3, it's clear to me that she will find her way into the game. I wrote that over a year ago. The interlude was perfect because we had Zoey actively in the game. So every player was forced to be involved with Zoey somewhere. Of course, there are players who have a positive impression and others who have a negative impression. But that's no different from EP1 to EP8. Some like Maya, some don't, but they don't like Quinn and bitch about Jill. You guys know what I mean.

DnG is not my thing either. But it's part of the game, so it has its place for me because it's a DPC game.

Nope. Can't do it. Sorry. I've tried, but I simply can't get used to it.

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DPC have said that the game will span one year.


Did I miss something in the Q&As? When did he say that?
 

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Sally is not a lolita, neither by her age nor by her behavior. I am grateful to Dr PinkCake for not promoting this kind of borderline content.
And I never wrote lolita... and put up a pic to help which meaning it bears... sooo nevermind ;) :KEK:
 

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Hold on there, Tex. Are we talking about the proper ending of Season 8, or the spin-off show they tried to pass off as Season 9? That's a very important distinction.
Scrubs 'season 9' doesn't exist. Everyone knows that. It ended beautifully with 8. *Puts fingers in ears, repeating 'la, la, la'*
 

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How do you know that the game requires 1 year BaDIK time? I haven't read that from DPC personally yet.:rolleyes:

Sarah and Ashley are also in the Gender Studies program. Also, several HOTs have inquired about Maya's well-being and apologized to her.:D(y)

The game definitely tells me that there is no other alternative for Sage if she wants to get the HOTs on healthy feet. When Sage realizes all that Quinn has done, Maya is the only real choice. I could see another HOT girl like Heather or Elena staying at B&R a little longer than Sage so that she can become President after Sage and Maya can become Vice President. But to repair the damage done by Quinn, there is no way around Maya.:unsure:
I don't know if Maya will become president of HOT, for the moment, the "bomb" has not exploded. The potential for Stephen's drug scandal is quite high, so who knows if BR will continue to exist in the future.
 

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I think that's more like a personality "Setting " for Zoey, and nothing more. You can skip the whole Interlude after you played once for future. But you have to decide, about Zoey "personality"

A, She is more calmer, the "Bigger person"
B, She is more of a Vengeful "Bitch"

And this determine what kind of Person will be in future
Agreed. The choices you make in interlude will be integral to the story. Whether you choose Zoe to be a DIK or CHICK, be a bigger person or revengeful. It would play a lot in the coming episodes. I can't see why people hate the interlude, when the backstory of Zoe IMHO is really important. DPC, heck any other writer, wouldn't throw a plot point like this to us for nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I kind of got the feeling of being uninterested here and there while playing the interlude, not because I don't care about Zoe yet, but because I am more emotionally invested already to what's happening around Tremolo. Speaking of caring about Zoe, I liked the plot of her being home-blind. When she realized she has home-blindness in the train, that spoke a lot to me. Not realizing before that Tremolo is really important to her and that maybe she loved him. That's a good story-beat IMHO.

When playing the DIK and CHICK variation of Zoe, I liked her more as a CHICK. She was more compassionate to people and it would really compliment the story-beat of home-blindness.
IDK why this game is called Being a DIK, when in more ways when a being a CHICK the game rewards you more. (Being able to be on all 5 MGs path more or less, you get more RP, etc.)

No, because most if not all of the stuff in the interlude would probably still need to be created as part of Zoey's explanation on why she's back.
Agreed. We don't know what DPC has in mind but him fleshing out Zoe's story like this means she will be important moving on.
 

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Agreed. The choices you make in interlude will be integral to the story. Whether you choose Zoe to be a DIK or CHICK, be a bigger person or revengeful. It would play a lot in the coming episodes. I can't see why people hate the interlude, when the backstory of Zoe IMHO is really important. DPC, heck any other writer, wouldn't throw a plot point like this to us for nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I kind of got the feeling of being uninterested here and there while playing the interlude, not because I don't care about Zoe yet, but because I am more emotionally invested already to what's happening around Tremolo. Speaking of caring about Zoe, I liked the plot of her being home-blind. When she realized she has home-blindness in the train, that spoke a lot to me. Not realizing before that Tremolo is really important to her and that maybe she loved him. That's a good story-beat IMHO.

When playing the DIK and CHICK variation of Zoe, I liked her more as a CHICK. She was more compassionate to people and it would really compliment the story-beat of home-blindness.
IDK why this game is called Being a DIK, when in more ways when a being a CHICK the game rewards you more. (Being able to be on all 5 MGs path more or less, you get more RP, etc.)



Agreed. We don't know what DPC has in mind but him fleshing out Zoe's story like this means she will be important moving on.
It might be important, but honestly I really don't care about Zoey at all. I am not trying to be mean spirited about this, but if someone has to be left in the burning dorm room, I vote Zoey.
Peace
 

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Agreed. The choices you make in interlude will be integral to the story. Whether you choose Zoe to be a DIK or CHICK, be a bigger person or revengeful. It would play a lot in the coming episodes. I can't see why people hate the interlude, when the backstory of Zoe IMHO is really important. DPC, heck any other writer, wouldn't throw a plot point like this to us for nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I kind of got the feeling of being uninterested here and there while playing the interlude, not because I don't care about Zoe yet, but because I am more emotionally invested already to what's happening around Tremolo. Speaking of caring about Zoe, I liked the plot of her being home-blind. When she realized she has home-blindness in the train, that spoke a lot to me. Not realizing before that Tremolo is really important to her and that maybe she loved him. That's a good story-beat IMHO.
I think the only real reason why so many people hate Interlude is the development of the ninth episode delayed on for two to three months. People are frustrated: "How dare the DPC interrupt the main story and talk about some Zoe from the MC past! I'm offended and I want the ninth episode as soon as possible!"
Just like kids:LOL:
 

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I *think* the importance of choosing how Zoey dealt with Emma will manifest in Zoey, not in how it affected the San Diego crew directly. It will inform how she handles the MC moving on from her in Season 3, should that come to pass. A Zoey who talked Emma down will try to win the MC over by telling him how she feels and being there for him, whereas a vengeful Zoey will try to undermine her competition and seduce the MC.

I doubt this. That kind of large scale change of character could potentially mean two divergent games. Its a hard needle to thread. I expect it to be flavor, nothing more.

Also, you're right on the money with ORS, controlling both sides of the relationship, means the other person is my LEAST chosen character romantically. I don't want to bang myself (the irony as i click lefthanded...), I want to bang someone else.
 

Arigon

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Dude, you didn't have to go all-out Acting Lessons about it. Some people have traumas here. :ROFLMAO:
The universal truth is "You never go full Retard"
No one said I could not go all out AL!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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