VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[sixart]

TL;DR?

Nope


Points were good yet I add this one to the pile...

I would ask ( from pros and cons as well ) do you think that DPC is some sort of retard " child " that needs the insight of thousands of randos ?!?

He's a grown ass man for fucks sake !

I think it was already estabilished that he is successful... that does not come by on it's own... so whoever is oh so worked up about his mental state or is " threatening " to pull his/her support ( financially or otherwise ) should just go and check out their own backyard first As long as people get scarred from an AL scene ( yeah the fire ) I don't think THEY should be worried about the mental state of another... and as for support wasn't it always so that it depends on you ?!

It's not like the end of the world... that'll come soon

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[Arigon]

Nope


Points were good yet I add this one to the pile...

I would ask ( from pros and cons as well ) do you think that DPC is some sort of retard " child " that needs the insight of thousands of randos ?!?

He's a grown ass man for fucks sake !

I think it was already estabilished that he is successful... that does not come by on it's own... so whoever is oh so worked up about his mental state or is " threatening " to pull his/her support ( financially or otherwise ) should just go and check out their own backyard first As long as people get scarred from an AL scene ( yeah the fire ) I don't think THEY should be worried about the mental state of another... and as for support wasn't it always so that it depends on you ?!

It's not like the end of the world... that'll come soon

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Naw. He’s really a precocious dwarf, 3’2” (cock size) whose wound so tight that when that mega flopped blows a stress nut, Putin’s lil red button won’t mean jack shit!

 

[NoboodyDies]

Did the first preview of Josy ever get shared?

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Ep1 of Badik was launched on feb 2019 just before the pandemic, at that point DPC had 600 patreons. Althought this seems nothing today the truth is everyone had smaller numbers back than than they have today. You can have funchecking the numbers here:

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I'd never seen that site before. I was frankly surprised to see that the guy(s) making "Summertime Saga" is the number one adult game maker on Patreon, with nearly 29k patrons right now. I really enjoy "Summertime Saga" but would never have guessed.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Ep1 of Badik was launched on feb 2019 just before the pandemic, at that point DPC had 600 patreons. Althought this seems nothing today the truth is everyone had smaller numbers back than than they have today. You can have funchecking the numbers here:

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A very good website. Allows you to track the dynamics. In fact, his business is not growing, the number of patrons remains at the level of 14 thousand, spikes occur only when an update is released.
NLT Games has already overtaken him, although a few months ago they were several thousand patrons behind. Regular content updates are bearing fruit.
Probably soon it will be overtaken by Adeptus Steve. He's literally breathing down his back.

 

[Ilhares]

He's never going to give up on that extra income to pay people to finish his game faster. Unless he has something coming up in mind, and it's driving him crazy to start it, he's just going to keep working at this pace and making bank.

Considering what he makes, and what a 'proper wage' is for work, depending on who is doing what, let's assume he might take a loss of 20 to 50% on his monthly patronage income. Unless it feasible results in an equal reduction in overall production time (or better), it's simply not worth it. I know there's no fucking way I'd take a 50% pay cut (over the span of, say, 4-5 months, instead of full pay for 6) to just shave off a month or two of production time. Yes, the 'product' is out faster, which the audience almost assuredly loves, but now I'm also potentially looking at having lost not only 50% of that revenue stream, but the stream is also only 2/3 what it would have otherwise been, which my brain is unwilling to do the proper math on at this point, but I'm sure somebody will.

In any event, simply not worth it from a money standpoint, as the man also has all his bills to pay (a rendering farm eats a lot of electricity) and he's got a family to support, as he gave up his 'day job' to make this a full time thing.

Gee, I wonder why Mr. Pink doesn't want to show up his face around here

Because he, meaning no disrespect to him, used this place to drive up his popularity, and then bailed on it when he became a full-time developer. Even mentioning this place around him gets people banned now (and has for a couple years at least).

To be slightly critical of the man, I do feel this move is akin to a rising political agent frequenting the local whorehouse and then once in office complaining about the rampant prostitution going on in his town, even though it was where he met half his connections and supporters.

I will be playing this game for the first time
so any tips or advise
like any good mods etc.

The best advice I can give you? Do not mod the game at all. DPC has some mod detection built into it at various points and it will fuck you in the ass, no lubricant.

Yes there's one, the most horrendous and feared path. A path even most hardcore Jill-solo path players wouldn't take :

The Chaste path.

Shit, man. I'm just glad to finally see somebody use the appropriate fucking word to describe it. And I'm suitably impressed by those who manage to keep up with such a playthrough. I wonder if there'll be something special for those guys, like Zoey just absolutely banging his brains out on a 48 hour bender when she reappears.

Obviously that will void the chastity angle, but there are only two reasons I can think of for the MC to remain unsullied in his college life thus far.

1. He's pining over the lost love (which may then do as mentioned above), or
2. He did the miraculous thing and actually listened to, and heeded, his father's advice.

#2 just seems far less realistic at his age.

 

[Casiope]

I'd never seen that site before. I was frankly surprised to see that the guy(s) making "Summertime Saga" is the number one adult game maker on Patreon, with nearly 29k patrons right now. I really enjoy "Summertime Saga" but would never have guessed.

DarkCookie, "the guy behind Summertime Saga", sketches on stream five evenings a week (about 10 hours). This extra activity allows him to secure support. The fact that his game is hand-drawn, which is quite rare, also contributes to success, although the releases are more spaced out today. The creator can justify having a team of four (five?) people, a website, a wiki and a bugtracker in addition to a public Discord; these are little things that make the difference.

 

[shazba]

Because he, meaning no disrespect to him, used this place to drive up his popularity, and then bailed on it when he became a full-time developer. Even mentioning this place around him gets people banned now (and has for a couple years at least).

I always heard he bailed because too many people became toxic regarding how AL turned out. He got death threats and all that shit.

I can't find any evidence on this forum as such, so I don't know how that rumour got started.

 

[Arigon]

I always heard he bailed because too many people became toxic regarding how AL turned out. He got death threats and all that shit.

I can't find any evidence on this forum as such, so I don't know how that rumour got started.

Ok Mods, don't get mad and ban me, I am just relaying facts.

AL was pretty much a disaster for him in the aftermath. Yeah, some people, for some reason, like it. Seriously I do not know why. He still endlessly gets shit for having the option to choose an athletic body and not being able to carry two tiny girls out during an adrenaline situation.

He had a fair amount of much deserved scorn from "his" community. So he had to go light hearted for his next story, and well we all see how that is working out. Yes you can get banned just by mentioning AL to him these days.

So he left, but he has his spies here who keep him informed about the general mood of his "people".

I think that he has gotten snippy on some of his posts on Patreon and other places about what people are saying about time and all that shit, even admitting that he has too many characters to manage in this story.

Broken record time, AND that is why it will end abruptly and soon. Maybe he will make a second game for the following year, but I bet he goes full on D&D porno style.

Peace

 

[Meushi]

I always heard he bailed because too many people became toxic regarding how AL turned out. He got death threats and all that shit.

I can't find any evidence on this forum as such, so I don't know how that rumour got started.

It's not a rumour, I gave you the details back in December, along with supporting quotes? So it's a bit weird you can't find any evidence...

 

[sixart]

Welp let's not pretend anything changed since then... people still " offer " their piece of mind however the fuck he should do things ( coz that's the right way ! ) and wasn't a death threat mentioned already earlier this week ? Too much simping around leads there... but that's just a normal Tuesday !

 

[gamingdevil800]

I wonder if Bianca will only be pursuable if you are on Jill's path, if you are you get to see more of Bianca but if you aren't and you sit with Quinn on the park you get to see Bianca's boyfriend kissing one of her friends.

I can't wait to comfort her several times.

It would be weird if you don't get moments where you hang out with Jill "as friends" especially after you helped her out with her recital

 

[shazba]

It's not a rumour, I gave you the details back in December, along with supporting quotes? So it's a bit weird you can't find any evidence...

Objection Your Honour, hearsay!

I'll accept it happened, but the evidence is gone, i.e. all that's left is one post of DPC's saying he received death threats and the one post of N7's confirming it.

I'm not saying they are lying (I'm happy to believe it on face value), since I imagine all the threatening posts are probably gone due to breaching the forum rules, but when people say his used this place then abandoned it because he became too big for little ol' F95, there's really nothing to point to in order to illustrate that he left due to an onslaught of cunts making life here too unpleasant.

Hence, no evidence.

Then again, I guess one could just look around, plenty of cunts still here (term of endearment of course ).

Welp let's not pretend anything changed since then... people still " offer " their piece of mind however the fuck he should do things ( coz that's the right way ! ) and wasn't a death threat mentioned already earlier this week ? Too much simping around leads there... but that's just a normal Tuesday !

The typical death threats and threats of bodily harm that come up from time to time are clearly just jokes though. Obviously when directed to a guy via DM it's a little more serious. It's also hilarious how many fuckheads have absolutely no tact when presenting their own criticism of things.

 

[Arigon]

I’ve only threatened to fly over there and do him harm if he fucks Bella over. Hardly unjustifiable in my book.

 

[shazba]

I’ve only threatened to fly over there and do him harm if he fucks Bella over. Hardly unjustifiable in my book.

It's funny that thin line between:

Spoiler: Fucking Bella Over

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and simply:

Spoiler: Fucking Bella

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It just comes down to:

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[Deleted member 4975421]

Yes there's one, the most horrendous and feared path. A path even most hardcore Jill-solo path players wouldn't take :

The Chaste path.

Is that a thing tho ?

And more importantly

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[Casiope]

I wonder if Bianca will only be pursuable if you are on Jill's path, if you are you get to see more of Bianca but if you aren't and you sit with Quinn on the park you get to see Bianca's boyfriend kissing one of her friends.

I can't wait to comfort her several times.

I think DrPinkCake intends to unbundle Jill from Isabella and Tybalt, and give her her own world, otherwise Jill new path would have been a repeat of the first seasons.

I expect the same applied to other love interests, which would explain why the commitment to either Josy, Maya, or both, was not addressed in the conclusion of the crossroads.

It is thus probable that the creator resorts to specific content according to the chosen branch. The challenge DrPinkCake will face is to diversify the themes while keeping a common universe; until now he primarily considered the affinity of the main character.

 

[dalli_x]

As my comment was very broad it can easily be misunderstood.

He could easily hire people to write the code for him, there are many talented people who can do that and much better than DPC. By doing that he can focus on improving his script and render quality, that alone would not only decrease development time but also increase the quality. As a programmer myself it would not take me more than a few days to understand his code. A week tops.

As for the support thing. I never said monetary support, I meant like you are doing. At the start I defended him as well, no matter what anyone said, when I should have criticized some things, but didn't.

As for monetary support, these devs bill people monthly even though they don't release monthly updates. So am of the opinion that people should only support for a certain amount and no more.

Support comes in many ways. I wrote a general comment, not a review, so stop bugging me with technical issues it is annoying.

Learn to read between the lines, you'll be happier that way.

Your account name fits you.

Your post was not broad and actually easy to understand. I also did not assume at any point that it was a criticism of you because you no longer support DPC either.

I am happy and can also read between the lines. The only problem is that you didn't write anything between the lines.

As for financial support, you did make your decision and that's fine with me. I also support DPC and I will continue to do so even if I don't get an update every month. Furthermore, that's a decision everyone has to make for themselves.

You're just angry that someone disagrees with you and is making arguments that you can't really refute, so your ego has been bruised and now you're trying to justify yourself and put yourself in a better light. I understand that, and you don't have to justify yourself to me. I don't care enough about you to do that.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I’ve only threatened to fly over there and do him harm if he fucks Bella over. Hardly unjustifiable in my book.

Well, you know what they say : fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice......

 

[dalli_x]

I actually think the branching will be easier than the previous paths. Up until now all sorts of paths and permutations of relationships were possible. I'm gonna try to list them off the top of my head, and I'm sure to miss something:

1. M&J only
2. M&J and Jill
3. M&J, Jill and Sage
4. M&J, Jill, Sage and Bella
5. M&J and Sage
6. M&J, Sage and Bella
7. M&J and Bella
8. Jill only
9. Jill and Sage
10. Jill, Sage and Bella
11. Jill, Sage, Bella and Jade
12. Jill and Bella
13. Jill, Bella and Jade
14. Jill and Jade
15. Sage only
16. Sage and Bella
17. Sage, Bella and Quinn
18. Sage, Bella, Quinn and Jade
19. Sage and Quinn
20. Sage, Quinn and Jade
21. Sage and Jade
22. Bella only
23. Bella and Quinn
24. Bella, Quinn and Jade
25. Bella and Jade
26. Quinn only
27. Quinn and Jade
28. Jade only

And that doesn't even include that you could start a path with Jade but have it end prematurely due to M&J, same goes with Quinn's path ending due to Jill and so on. Or that Cathy, Riona, Lily, Nicole etc are all thrown into the mix. Actually I should have added Nicole and Lily into the above combinations, but I really just can't be fucked (lucky that's not DPC'c attitude!), but that would just blow it out even further.

Al that shit is pretty fucking convoluted, and it's worked fine.

Now since the "crossroads", we're looking at:

1. M&J only
2. Jill only
3. Sage only
4. Bella only
5. Others (basically all combinations of the below group)
   1. Quinn
   2. Jade
   3. Nicole
   4. Lily

I'm not sure how much Nicole's relationship with the mc is gonna progress. I get the impression they will just fuck from time-to-time, I don't think he's really the one she's looking for.

The Jade relationship is possibly about to go south big time due to this family meeting, or they could keep up their tryst.

It looks like there's going to be more happening with the Lily relationship since she wants to "Roll" with the mc.

And surely the Quinn relationship will keep progressing.

Oh yeah, and then there's Zoey!

So to me, it doesn't look like it's going to get more complicated with these branches, it'll actually be less so.

Nice setup. I assume that as of EP9, the MC's love interest is fixed and completed. However, there will still be friendship branches between the girls we know and according to the DPC, new characters will be added.

So I assume the LI branches will become less complicated, but the complexity of the friendship branches may increase.