VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DrSoong]

Feminism (via French féminisme derived from Latin femina 'woman' and -ism) is an umbrella term for social, political and scientific currents and social movements that, on the basis of critical analyses of the gender order, advocate equality, human dignity and self-determination for all people of any gender, as well as against sexism, and seek to implement these goals through appropriate measures. Furthermore, feminism refers to political theories that - beyond individual concerns - focus on the totality of social relations, a fundamental change of the social and symbolic order and gender relations. At the same time, they allow for interpretations and arguments for a critique of society.

And the both atomic bombs thrown on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only for future as the Americans said.

It is one thing to write something on a sheet of paper, looking good when you read it. But it is another thing when todays feminism isn't for people of any gender, it's only for female purposes. Every other sex (and yes, i use this word) than pure female is for a real feminist nothing she wants to deal with, maybe only at first glace to simulate philanthropy. If you take a closer look at so called "feminism politic" and not be allayed by the words you will see that nothing that female will benefit from it.

Best proof is the so called Patriarchy, where man have all the power (as feminists claim all the time). In most countries (as you can see actually in Ukraine) this means man have to do the hard work, must go to military and have other disadvantages only that women can do what they want (also meaning doing the work they like). Men get longer penalties for the same crime, they were accused often more for crimes they didn't have done. This all doesn't look like men have the power, it look's the women have. So to balance the things it's not feminism (to increase the raisins for the women) but masculism we need (or better, nothing ending with -ism).

 

[horusxcaen82]

so heres a question, anyone else want to sweep Sally off her feet? during the party she just seemed so hurt, I feel like Magnar is in some deep shit and Sally will be a casualty of it not to mention the bs with Quinn, I dunno I just felt very sympathetic towards her then.
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.... oh also she got a top shelf booty too, where was she hiding that thing?

 

[nyrek]

This leads to the following scenario. Tommy was probably to blame for Patrick finding out that Josy and Maya were having an affair. And why? Josy tattled on Tommy to Monica that Tommy sniffed her nail polish to get high. Tommy will have then told his mother about Josy and Maya, and she had nothing better to do than tell Patrick. But Tommy is trying to make amends, and there are two ways to do it.

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't maya/josy say at one point they came out to maya's parents and after seeing their reaction they didn't wanna come out to josy's too?
meaning noone tattled, they did it themselves
again, I might be wrong but this is how I remember it

 

[DrSoong]

where did Bella's husband James go? from the sound of it sounds like he left her for a long time the way Bella makes it sound

Read back the nearly 200000 posts to see this is a during discussion in this thread. Some say he is dead, others he will return in one of the following episodes. Stay tuned for more drama about Bella and feel free to share your thoughts about that topic.

 

[Regadius]

Could season 1-2 files be re-uploaded? Provided links are deleted.

 

[Bendover885]

Feminism (via French féminisme derived from Latin femina 'woman' and -ism) is an umbrella term for social, political and scientific currents and social movements that, on the basis of critical analyses of the gender order, advocate equality, human dignity and self-determination for all people of any gender, as well as against sexism, and seek to implement these goals through appropriate measures. Furthermore, feminism refers to political theories that - beyond individual concerns - focus on the totality of social relations, a fundamental change of the social and symbolic order and gender relations. At the same time, they allow for interpretations and arguments for a critique of society.

Minny even explains this to Derek in Gender Studies.

What you describe here is Crenshaw's intersectional feminism, which is concerned with "equity" not equality: equity being defined as systems righting the wrongs of past discrimination. Simone de Beauvoir, for one, would disagree.

WRONG

Dik : The Giga Chad, every girl wants to be with him, and every boy wanst to to be Him

Neutral: Pretty average , nothing special, but nothing bad either, just base.

Chick: The beta male, the creepy male feminist, with massive hypocrisy. The worst kind of Male. Naive girls like Jill , often fall for these predators, only to regret it much much later

Definitions here are imprecise: Real-life DIKs can be just as manipulative as the CHICKs, more so if it motivates the ego enough. Also, not sure a CHICK MC would classify himself as a feminist, based on the dialogue in the game regardless of his sincerity.

 

[Bendover885]

Could season 1-2 files be re-uploaded? Provided links are deleted.

Haaaave you met sixart's signature?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

where did Bella's husband James go? from the sound of it sounds like he left her for a long time the way Bella makes it sound

Bella hacked him to death with an ax (which can be found in her garage), embalmed him and cut him into pieces, which she keeps in a locked room. Bella is now hallucinating James. This explains her cold glassy look.... And much more in Episode 12

 

[NewTricks]

What you describe here is Crenshaw's intersectional feminism, which is concerned with "equity" not equality: equity being defined as systems righting the wrongs of past discrimination. Simone de Beauvoir, for one, would disagree.


Definitions here are imprecise: Real-life DIKs can be just as manipulative as the CHICKs, more so if it motivates the ego enough. Also, not sure a CHICK MC would classify himself as a feminist, based on the dialogue in the game regardless of his sincerity.

Yeah, I don't think that MC was given the opportunity to explore his views or even have his opinions challenged in the gender studies class. He certainly didn't learn anything other than that his instructor is perfectly fine with sexual harassment in the workplace so long as she holds the power. He was just kind of turned into a straw man and used as a punching bag when he wasn't just serving as an unpaid therapist for his classmates. I actually think that Derek got more out of the class than he did LOL.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I see CHICK differently. An adult considers possible consequences when making decisions and acts accordingly.

DIK Tommy: With Tommy as president, there would be no more DIK Mansion because he would have just given up. Like a spoiled child lying on the floor screaming and kicking because he can't get ice cream from mom and dad.

NEUTRAL Rusty: He's not an adult yet. But through the MC's speech, Rusty begins to think about himself and realizes that he has been living in this bubble. He develops the ambition to change and become an adult.

CHICK MC: The problem is actually that he grew up too fast. His decision to drop out of high school and not go to San Diego with Zoey clearly shows that. He was shaped by the hardships and bullying in his childhood. He learned early on that he had to work hard to earn something. That's why everyone invites the MC to drink at EP8's dorm party. This is also how he learns to be easygoing and have fun. He goes dancing to Tommy or just starts dancing in the chill zone. The MC starts to learn that there are times when he can be a kid.

There is a difference between a CHICK man (MC) who acts like a kid for a few hours and an adult DIK man who acts like a defiant kid (Tommy). NEUTRAL is just the way to adulthood and cannot be the end of the road. That's why the Major Choice changed in EP8.

DIK/NEUTRAL or NEUTRAL/CHICK. So a DIK who can make a semi-sane decision, or a CHICK who can make a non-serious decision.

In Neil's case, we can see what happens when the MC is DIK and NEUTRAL for too long. Neil was not a chick at the age of 24. In the present he is because he had to be, but his life was full of hardships when Lynette died.

You have such a wrong take on all of this.
Especially this unusually method that you want to label all of the other characters in these spectrum that only define MC

But also funny how you try to paint it that Chick mc is the only that apply to to the Base plot

"CHICK MC: The problem is actually that he grew up too fast. His decision to drop out of high school and not go to San Diego with Zoey clearly shows that. He was shaped by the hardships and bullying in his childhood. He learned early on that he had to work hard to earn something. That's why everyone invites the MC to drink at EP8's dorm party. This is also how he learns to be easygoing and have fun. He goes dancing to Tommy or just starts dancing in the chill zone. The MC starts to learn that there are times when he can be a kid."

This part is not an exclusive chick MC, this is the base MC, regardless of any affinity. .

Chick mc
- is the one who talk big from the balcony, but walk away like a pussy when Caleb show up
- walk away, when Tybalt bitch slap him
- Two naked chick standing if front of him, and he ask for privacy
- barely participating in Hell week, lets Derek do all the stuff, and he just a freeloader.
- Chasing multiple main girl, yet he's feelings is the only thing that should matter, he is the victim, its feels more hypocrite from him , than a Dik player
- creepy shower scene with Jill. " Is this what I think it is " Creep.

Chick, does not feel organic at all , beside 2 major choice.
The only reason people take this road because it's necessary for some of the stupid game mechanic system.
It doesn't make him automatically better character, person, or more mature.

 

[ArmoredCascade]

Read back the nearly 200000 posts to see this is a during discussion in this thread. Some say he is dead, others he will return in one of the following episodes. Stay tuned for more drama about Bella and feel free to share your thoughts about that topic.

I think he left due to cheating whether it was Bella that cheated(doubt it as people claim it was with Jill) but Bella don't seem like that type of woman(well unless you count her meeting MC) I think it was James that cheated and they got into a huge fight about it (maybe it was James and Jill) that's why Bella is way overprotective of Jill esp when it comes to Men so Bella kicked James out and after awhile Bella is/was starting to feel regret about doing that that's why we hear her say please come home or why won't you come back Bella deff caught James making advances on Jill (prob because Bella is a virgin and wouldn't have sex with James so James thought her could get lucky with Jill instead that's why both women were hestain with MC when MC was making moves on them

that's my theory at least Bella didn't cheat but it was James that did think of it the way Jade found out in Ep2 or 3 where we see Jade throwing stuff at HER Husband not to mention Jade's husband was also trying to hit on Bella by asking her to dinner I think that's what happened to James and Bella the same out come with Jade and her Husband

 

[PashafromRussia]

That is the beauty of BaDIK. The player can decide for himself what he wants to have. Either a porn game where the goal is to fuck as many girls as possible, or an adult VN with intimate content.

So DIK, NEUTRAL or CHICK.

DIK<>KID: A kid in a young man's body who thinks he's the greatest, but isn't.
NEUTRAL: The transition from teenager to adult.
CHICK: An adult.

The path is actually set, isn't it? We start as a DIK, then go on to transformation to an adult, and then we should actually have an adult MC at some point.

Oh, these Chick players who want to convince others that only their way is the most correct and worthy.
Dik is a self-sufficient path, he is the complete opposite of Chick, but in contrast complements the stories of depth. This is the same as saying that water is real beauty and greatness, and fire is only destruction and death. Dude, fire allowed our ancestors to survive! Fire was the cause of Prometheus' torment.
The fact that you are faithful to only one girl does not automatically make you older or better than someone.
Does Tony Stark behave like a child? Definitely.
Is he fucking awesome?
Fucking yes. Tony Stark is bigger than any other character from a fucking Marvel movie, he's the reason why movies have become popular in general. Tony Stark is fucking MASSIVE DIK. Captain Americf is fucking MASSIVE CHICK.
To be honest, Chick is the biggest hypocrite in the game. At the end of episode 8, you can make absolutely all the main girls suffer. Yes, you can say that you shouldn't play like that, but the fucking game allows you to do so. If Pink didn't want us to play like this, he would have punished the fucking Chick player playing like Dik. But he doesn't punish the bitch!
Therefore, Chick is a fucking hypocrite who pretends to be a chick and a proper good guy, in fact an ordinary confused guy who does not know what he wants. There's nothing here that makes a guy mature or wise.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Not entirely true...

DIK : an asshole to almost any human beings " girls " might find this appealing at first but it has an expiration date... that every boy wants to be him is only partially true sure that the attention from the girls are a forte but I would not say that everybody wants to be an asshole to achieve that

NEUTRAL : it's the natural thing that we all face some kinda choices and sometimes you need to be an arse... but it's not who you really are so the scale gets balanced by softie choices as well... please one of those who think of themselves as DIK or CHICK would you kindly enlighten me how can you pass lifes hurdles with being one and not the other at the same time from time to time ? In RL I mean...

CHICK : considering this game this passes as it is... but as in RL hardly... and how the fuck does a pussy become a " predator " ??? Besides... isn't it the DIK choice girls regret when they get a little bit more mature ?

I feel like you guys play some very different game. .

 

[sixart]

I feel like you guys play some very different game. .

It's a mixture what DPC does...

 

[felicemastronzo]

You have such a wrong take on all of this.
Especially this unusually method that you want to label all of the other characters in these spectrum that only define MC

But also funny how you try to paint it that Chick mc is the only that apply to to the Base plot

"CHICK MC: The problem is actually that he grew up too fast. His decision to drop out of high school and not go to San Diego with Zoey clearly shows that. He was shaped by the hardships and bullying in his childhood. He learned early on that he had to work hard to earn something. That's why everyone invites the MC to drink at EP8's dorm party. This is also how he learns to be easygoing and have fun. He goes dancing to Tommy or just starts dancing in the chill zone. The MC starts to learn that there are times when he can be a kid."

This part is not an exclusive chick MC, this is the base MC, regardless of any affinity. .

Chick mc
- is the one who talk big from the balcony, but walk away like a pussy when Caleb show up
- walk away, when Tybalt bitch slap him
- Two naked chick standing if front of him, and he ask for privacy
- barely participating in Hell week, lets Derek do all the stuff, and he just a freeloader.
- Chasing multiple main girl, yet he's feelings is the only thing that should matter, he is the victim, its feels more hypocrite from him , than a Dik player
- creepy shower scene with Jill. " Is this what I think it is " Creep.

Chick, does not feel organic at all , beside 2 major choice.
The only reason people take this road because it's necessary for some of the stupid game mechanic system.
It doesn't make him automatically better character, person, or more mature.

 

[Bendover885]

Yeah, I don't think that MC was given the opportunity to explore his views or even have his opinions challenged in the gender studies class. He certainly didn't learn anything other than that his instructor is perfectly fine with sexual harassment in the workplace so long as she holds the power. He was just kind of turned into a straw man and used as a punching bag when he wasn't just serving as an unpaid therapist for his classmates. I actually think that Derek got more out of the class than he did LOL.

Yeah, totally. Gender studies was a comedic storyline, not a character-defining arc.

 

[sixart]

Still nope
But let me guess he wouldn't like the compressed version either sooo... guess my sig would be a misfire now

 

[Envy*]

When I think about it, Being a DIK could so become a Netflix series. x)

 

[Regadius]

I can only find compressed season 1-2. Anyone got a link for full renders?

EDIT: hah he beat me to the reply. ^^

 

[ChipLecsap]

It's a mixture what DPC does...

of all the things he done, this forced " morality " system is definitely the weakest part of the game.
Instead of the Follow your heart, it should be Follow the Mechanical System.
it is still not as bad as the our red string overly complicated system, but its still bad overall. We just learned to accept it.

But you can't force a moral debate, when it's a system that determine it, that often based on choices that characters should not even know.
Jill getting upset over me for picking Sage, I can understand. Jill dumping me, because she feel an invisible aura around me based on choices that has nothing to do with her, is the Bullshit system.