VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[dalli_x]

What reason has mc to share his situation with Josy if not for an advice, for an help?

When you need an advice you say directly "i want an advice, please"?
Came on...

Josy's reaction remain the worst possible

Josy made the MC tell her everything because she noticed that the MC was not listening to Josy, which he usually does. Josy even apologizes to the MC for this.

Josy actually just wanted to know why the MC was elsewhere with his thoughts. After all, she didn't know what the MC was thinking about. Josy also said so she now understands why the MC zoned out.

The reason why the MC told Josy about it, the MC says himself. Because Josy and Maya are the female counterparts of Chad and Troy. Accordingly, Josy definitely has more experience about same-sex relationships than the MC.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Josy made the MC tell her everything because she noticed that the MC was not listening to Josy, which he usually does. Josy even apologizes to the MC for this.

Josy actually just wanted to know why the MC was elsewhere with his thoughts. After all, she didn't know what the MC was thinking about. Josy also said so she now understands why the MC zoned out.

The reason why the MC told Josy about it, the MC says himself. Because Josy and Maya are the female counterparts of Chad and Troy. Accordingly, Josy definitely has more experience about same-sex relationships than the MC.

And he wanted an advice, as he doesn't know what to do


In fact after she gives him an advice... No getting involved


Came on....

 

[Deleted member 3788572]

Cathy would be another good option, seeing that she's always open to helping students with whatever issues might have.

Definitive people MC shouldn't talk to about the issue: Jade, Stephen, Jill (it would be completely pointless as she wouldn't be able to say anything of value to help the situation), Tommy and Derek.

Even though Cathy isn't part of MC's peer group, she has experience with violation of privacy. Another one I had in mind was Heather tbh. Technically, Tommy might not be cheating but she also doesn't always know the full extent of their open relationship.

Anyway, for a second, let's think about what the "shouldn't talk with" people would say :
Jade: "Whether you tell her or not, she should also fuck someone else to make things equal"
Stephen: "Hmm send her to me, I might be able to help.."
Jill: "Maybe it's destiny?"
Tommy: same as Jade
Derek: "There are many fish in the ocean, ass-man"

 

[dalli_x]

And he wanted an advice, as he doesn't know what to do


In fact after she gives him an advice... No getting involved


Came on....

It's just nice to see that people (thank God) have different views and interpretations.

That's why I think so we will not come to a consensus on this point. But that's okay for me.

 

[QuixoteTheDon]

She was ok with the mc making that choice:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."​

Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."​

Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."​

Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday."​

mc "Thanks, Jill. I appreciate it."​

Jill: "(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"​

Jill: "(Maybe it's a sign?)"​

Jill: "(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"​

But at the same time even if she understood his motives (she wasn't jealous in this case), it changed the course of events.

The fact that you get severely penalised making a chick decision when dealing with a chick oriented girl, seems to be the thing that bothers people the most. But to me, just choose Jill if you want Jill. Choose Sage if you want Sage.

It bothers people because it throws you out of roleplaying the game. You choose to be a pusykunt, you dedicate yourself to pursuing the basic bitch path and VN gods still punish you. In this case DPC. It's a bad game design choice for me. There are not many in this game, but this is a big one. DPC should have made a fallback variable or something, or just chosen a more appropriate branching point than this one.

 

[QuixoteTheDon]

But this just isn't true. I played as Saint Kellermann the Good (I know, it sounds unnatural ). I did no wrong. I sexed no women (nor men, nor beasts), I started no fights, I knocked out no teeth, I photoed no dick, I burned no houses, I trolled no Jocks, I ogled no asses, I degraded no strippers, I was, for all intents and purposes...a virgin saint at B&R. Yet I get dumped by Jill (even after pouring my musical heart out at her concert).

My great and only sin? I didn't go on a fucking picnic because I was committed to healing a person with Covid which could have killed me by the way. I literally put my life on the line to help the infirmed, but I didn't go on a picnic, so no Jill for me.

Indeed. But you CAN do all those "bad" things and if you chose to go on the damn picnic, chose to fight for her and have a dikish neutral affinity you CAN still end up with Jill, she wont reject. And that is not something that reflects badly on Jill as a character, nope it's just an example of a bad game design choice in an otherwise splendid game.

 

[Kellermann]

Indeed. But you CAN do all those "bad" things and if you chose to go on the damn picnic, chose to fight for her and have a dikish neutral affinity you CAN still end up with Jill, she wont reject. And that is not something that reflects badly on Jill as a character, nope it's just an example of a bad game design choice in an otherwise splendid game.

Exactly. And that is why the picnic and only the picnic turns out to be the deciding factor for Jill. And going back to my original point, it makes it all the worse that she decides at the time of the picnic to dump you, but proceeds to string you along until the the very end during the confrontation with Tybalt. The musical concert should have been a way for Nurse MC to reverse Jill's original impulsive decision. That concert was built up so much in Jill's character arc and MC went above and beyond the call of romance duty to help her that the ultimate rejection of MC (especially a Chick MC) later was a mark of the truly selfish person Jill turned out to be...or as you more accurately state, a bad design choice.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

It bothers people because it throws you out of roleplaying the game. You choose to be a pusykunt, you dedicate yourself to pursuing the basic bitch path and VN gods still punish you. In this case DPC. It's a bad game design choice for me. There are not many in this game, but this is a big one. DPC should have made a fallback variable or something, or just chosen a more appropriate branching point than this one.
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It's actually really realistic. The thing is, in real life you don't know when something big life changing will happen. You miss the chance and it's gone. But I agree that maybe there should have been a way to fix it if you work really hard at it.
But at the same time, I have to say it's obvious something big could happen. It's a dating sim, your LI wants to take you on a special date because it's your birthday, who chooses to skip that to run errands for a friend with the flu (who has housemates)? In real life, sure, but in a dating sim? "I'll skip this romantic date with the girl I'm romancing so I can get kleenex for a friend". Really?

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's actually really realistic. The thing is, in real life you don't know when something big life changing will happen. You miss the chance and it's gone. But I agree that maybe there should have been a way to fix it if you work really hard at it.
But at the same time, I have to say it's obvious something big could happen. It's a dating sim, your LI wants to take you on a special date because it's your birthday, who chooses to skip that to run errands for a friend with the flu (who has housemates)? In real life, sure, but in a dating sim? "I'll skip this romantic date with the girl I'm romancing so I can get kleenex for a friend". Really?

While Sage with abandonent anxiety and anger issue doesn't give a fuck...

The point is this is a game, and that was a trap. Reality has nothing to do with the "good bye" picnic.

 

[helagertane]

It's actually really realistic. The thing is, in real life you don't know when something big life changing will happen. You miss the chance and it's gone. But I agree that maybe there should have been a way to fix it if you work really hard at it.
But at the same time, I have to say it's obvious something big could happen. It's a dating sim, your LI wants to take you on a special date because it's your birthday, who chooses to skip that to run errands for a friend with the flu (who has housemates)? In real life, sure, but in a dating sim? "I'll skip this romantic date with the girl I'm romancing so I can get kleenex for a friend". Really?

But the thing is, there was a promise made. You say you'll look after her, a girl comes up unannounced and you cancel? That shouldn't be big issue.

 

[Journey95]

no, there isn't, it's just go manwhore until episode 8... but there is no harem in this game.

Manwhore path is the best one by far..thats why Chick playthroughs are boring in comparison

 

[Deleted member 1838060]

Is there a way to get the old wallpapers back for Cell Phone? Pictures of the real girls and not the 2d art?

okay. so have conversations on wallpapers on this enormous thread. Wallpapers for computers that people download and other make and post. (and I agree with someone who said just couldn’t see putting the on his PC, but that’s another conversation).

And game wallpapers for MC phone and picture above his desk.

my question is. Is there a way to get the old pictures to show up vs the Jacob 2D art?

did not seem to see an answer to this question above so thought I would bump it

thanks

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

it makes it all the worse that she decides at the time of the picnic to dump you, but proceeds to string you along until the the very end during the confrontation with Tybalt

To be fair, after not going to the picnic, every scene with Jill hints that something's not right so the rejection shouldn't be that surprising

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Closing her path immediately would honestly feel worse. Although a lot of people wanted M&J to stop existing after Ep. 4 rejection so I guess there are people who would prefer just not seeing her anymore instead of the game showing them drift apart

 

[Michaelscofield11]

Damn i can’t even play the game on my goofy ahh laptop animations are too much for it’s to handle

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair, after not going to the picnic, every scene with Jill hints that something's not right so the rejection shouldn't be that surprising

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Closing her path immediately would honestly feel worse. Although a lot of people wanted M&J to stop existing after Ep. 4 rejection so I guess there are people who would prefer just not seeing her anymore instead of the game showing them drift apart

Also Maya and Josy show "jealousy" toward Sage (Sixth chapter) and Jill (different occasions)

We have to consider also this relationship doomed? Is crossroad the final trap?

 

[Ilhares]

I feel like not telling Sage about Chad and Troy will come back and bite us in the ass in the future at some point. In my Sage save I opted to tell her, because she deserved to know.

I feel you get get bit right at that moment. Telling her what she's desperately wanted to know results in the MC not getting a blowie. You sabotaged your own night!

 

[dalli_x]

A new theory inspired by felicemastronzo.

Do you see the peace sign of Josy? Maybe that's supposed to mean that after the MC's decision, the LIs will befriend each other and the LI fight over the MC will end.

US = united sister (Derek also calls the MC brother even though they are just friends).

 

[felicemastronzo]

I feel used...

 

[Lostanddamned]

I feel you get get bit right at that moment. Telling her what she's desperately wanted to know results in the MC not getting a blowie. You sabotaged your own night!

She said she didn't want sex anyway. Might as well let her have it.

 

[Kamuisaki]

Is in every route possible, MC can always promise that they will help Sage when she is sick ? If there are route where you don't have the option to make a promise, the problem of this scene is that it was not made to be on a Sage/Jill Route.