shazba

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If a girl, who has previously agreed it is ok to be around other females (whether dating or not) before things get official, and has been previously demonstrated a propensity to favour any altruistic actions (and what more altruistic action than tending a sick person with no possibility of sex) comes to you with an immediate idea for a picnic, but you tell her I'm sorry, I already committed to tending to the dying, then she should say ok, how about the next day? It's not like she has reservations at the priciest restaurant in B&R city.
She was ok with the mc making that choice:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."​
Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."​
Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."​
Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday."​
mc "Thanks, Jill. I appreciate it."​
Jill: "(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"​
Jill: "(Maybe it's a sign?)"​
Jill: "(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"​

But at the same time even if she understood his motives (she wasn't jealous in this case), it changed the course of events.

The fact that you get severely penalised making a chick decision when dealing with a chick oriented girl, seems to be the thing that bothers people the most. But to me, just choose Jill if you want Jill. Choose Sage if you want Sage.
 

felicemastronzo

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It also never ceases to irritate me when folks complain about delays here on this pirate site, anyway. It's one thing for patrons to complain--after all, we (I'm one of them) are the ones shelling out money month after month--but all most people on F95 have to do is just bide their time and wait.
Sorry but i fully disagree about this.

Piracy is a crime, but agree or disagree about dev choice doesn't change anything.

If it is a big shame to play BaDIK without paying the only solution is... to pay. All other opinions on dev's work are only opinions, that change nothing in the previous fact
 

Geralt From Rivia

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You forgot Easter holidays, midsummer's day, the day his dog will snatch his HD and bury it in the garden, the days he will get sick, the imperative new Interlude spin-offs (Madame's new adventures; Magnar's D&G stories; and so on), next Xmas holiday.
Yeah. How dare he take the holidays off? Ottoeight is waiting for his pirated version of the game as soon as possible. The DPC has no right to rest. :KEK:
 
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Cabin Fever

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You want the game sooner, so you're suggesting he release it in half episodes. You're projecting your desires onto everyone else, but it's really what you want, otherwise you wouldn't be suggesting it.
Here you go again putting words in my mouth.

When have I ever said I want the game sooner? All I've said was:
  1. People will start losing interest due to the long release cycle.
  2. There are logical break points in the last few releases than can be utilized to split the release and have them come out quicker.
My points are entirely objective. They have nothing to do with what I want. But you can't seem to tolerate constructive criticism of a game you like and want to twist everything I said into I want this and that.

And it doesn't matter how long anyone's been here. It's obvious DPC is gonna do things his way, it's what he's always done. He is aware that the episodes are getting longer and he's trying to stop the ever expanding episode size, but he's not gonna shrink them by half the length.
And you think I haven't made the argument that it's DPC's game and he can do whatever he wants? I've been making that point since before you join. But I'm not a DPC apologist. I call a spade a spade. I'll continue to provide constructive criticism instead of joining the "DPC can do no wrong" crowd.
 

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Logically speaking, the mc already made his plans with Sage, so he hasn't done anything wrong by telling Jill
This is just one scenario of the many... but you dish it like it's inevitability :oops: :unsure: You don't have to sniff around Sage if you are going for Jill ! :p Fact of the matter is this little nonsensical debate about a scenario like this shows what people really are and how low on real life experience they are... :rolleyes: Bottom line : they are fed up coz DPC decided to punish them for handling his game like it would be a harem one ;):sneaky: I dare these folks ( or the young buck generation in a similar situation ) to pull this shit with a number of GF contenders... :KEK: Let's see what the end results will be... :eek::LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

Kellermann

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She was ok with the mc making that choice:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."​
Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."​
Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."​
Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday."​
mc "Thanks, Jill. I appreciate it."​
Jill: "(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"​
Jill: "(Maybe it's a sign?)"​
Jill: "(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"​

But at the same time even if she understood his motives (she wasn't jealous in this case), it changed the course of events.

The fact that you get severely penalised making a chick decision when dealing with a chick oriented girl, seems to be the thing that bothers people the most. But to me, just choose Jill if you want Jill. Choose Sage if you want Sage.
You guys constantly harp back at Jill dumping the mc because he didn't go on the picnic. That's not fair to the story. She didn't decide it was over because of that.

One thing lead to another, based on your choices at that point, and by the restaurant scene, Jill had decided, based on everything that had transpired, including his getting into fights and trying to burn down Tybalt's mansion, that she wanted to call it off.

That's definitely not the same thing as her thinking, "You don't wanna come on the picnic, fine, I don't wanna see you ever again!"
But this just isn't true. I played as Saint Kellermann the Good (I know, it sounds unnatural :sick: ). I did no wrong. I sexed no women (nor men, nor beasts), I started no fights, I knocked out no teeth, I photoed no dick, I burned no houses, I trolled no Jocks, I ogled no asses, I degraded no strippers, I was, for all intents and purposes...a virgin saint at B&R. Yet I get dumped by Jill (even after pouring my musical heart out at her concert).

My great and only sin? I didn't go on a fucking picnic because I was committed to healing a person with Covid which could have killed me by the way. I literally put my life on the line to help the infirmed, but I didn't go on a picnic, so no Jill for me.
 

dalli_x

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On the subject of Jill.

In my opinion, DPC moved up the decision of Jill or Sage, for whatever reason. My guess is so he could have a little shock moment for the players and increase the replayability of BaDIK.

The perfect time for the Jill player decision is actually the meal with Tybalt in EP8. If the MC doesn't interfere with the meal, Jill knows about it so the MC doesn't fight for her. But if you didn't have the picnic with Jill, you get your shock moment and get to start over.
 
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shazba

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Here you go again putting words in my mouth.

When have I ever said I want the game sooner? All I've said was:
  1. People will start losing interest due to the long release cycle.
  2. There are logical break points in the last few releases than can be utilized to split the release and have them come out quicker.
My points are entirely objective. They have nothing to do with what I want. But you can't seem to tolerate constructive criticism of a game you like and want to twist everything I said into I want this and that.

And you think I haven't made the argument that it's DPC's game and he can do whatever he wants? I've been making that point since before you join. But I'm not a DPC apologist. I call a spade a spade. I'll continue to provide constructive criticism instead of joining the "DPC can do no wrong" crowd.
Most people calling for shorter updates are typically whining because they simply want this game to come out sooner. So if I have mis represented your intentions, I apologise.

But Summertime Saga has been going on since 2017 and the updates for that game have been atrocious in recent years. He still sits at number 1 (on Patreon). ICSTOR was raking in cash for years when doing absolutely nothing. As long as DPC provides regular communications (and he does) and maintains his currently quality, I doubt he has anything to worry about.

If he actually halves the size of the episodes at this point, by splitting the currently intended narrative in half, there a risk that it would undermine the impact of each episode. I think that would be a mistake.


But this just isn't true. I played as Saint Kellermann the Good (I know, it sounds unnatural :sick: ). I did no wrong. I sexed no women (nor men, nor beasts), I started no fights, I knocked out no teeth, I photoed no dick, I burned no houses, I trolled no Jocks, I ogled no asses, I degraded no strippers, I was, for all intents and purposes...a virgin saint at B&R. Yet I get dumped by Jill (even after pouring my musical heart out at her concert).

My great and only sin? I didn't go on a fucking picnic because I was committed to healing a person with Covid which could have killed me by the way. I literally put my life on the line to help the infirmed, but I didn't go on a picnic, so no Jill for me.
But Saint Kellermann did indeed fight Dawe and Chad. He also got mixed up in Prep Mansion burning antics, even if he did or did not try to frame his friend for the event. Having never been a girl myself (I know, in this day and age that makes me an oddity), I can't be sure, but I reckon these are what decent, law abiding, buxom babes would consider "red flags". And what is Jill if not a decent, law abiding, most bodacious, buxom babe (who's slightly bananas).

So when our dear saint chose the leper colony instead of the sweet Jillybean, she didn't completely mind. I mean she understood the sacrifices this canonized character was making, but she also had other issues on her mind. She was hoping to tell him of the dastardly deeds of that dickhead Tybalt. But since our most holy hero couldn't make it, she figured she'd let it slide for a bit.

And so she did. And slide it did.

And she didn't invite him along for a morning jog. He was probably rescuing baby kittens from a burning house at the time anyway (I understand you can carry more than one kitten at a time too, bonus!)

And then things slipped further, it probably wasn't a good idea to invite him along to meet her friends. They were quite wealthy and placed a significant value on money. This may bring down wrath from the pious mc, it would be quite a scene if he started whipping them with righteous anger. Plus he was probably off fasting in the desert somewhere anyway.

And so, the most reverent mc and the virgin lady slowly drifted apart. And then she tore him a new one at the restaurant, and the rest is history. Or herstory if you've been paying attention in gender studies.
 
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But this just isn't true. I played as Saint Kellermann the Good (I know, it sounds unnatural :sick: ). I did no wrong. I sexed no women (nor men, nor beasts), I started no fights, I knocked out no teeth, I photoed no dick, I burned no houses, I trolled no Jocks, I ogled no asses, I degraded no strippers, I was, for all intents and purposes...a virgin saint at B&R. Yet I get dumped by Jill (even after pouring my musical heart out at her concert).

My great and only sin? I didn't go on a fucking picnic because I was committed to healing a person with Covid which could have killed me by the way. I literally put my life on the line to help the infirmed, but I didn't go on a picnic, so no Jill for me.
Who are you? Where is my roommate?????
 

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But Saint Kellermann did indeed fight Dawe and Chad. He also got mixed up in Prep Mansion burning antics, even if he did or did not try to frame his friend for the event. Having never been a girl myself (I know, in this day and age that makes me an oddity), I can't be sure, but I reckon these are what decent, law abiding, buxom babes would consider "red flags". And what is Jill if not a decent, law abiding, most bodacious, buxom babe (who's slightly bananas).

So when our dear saint chose the leper colony instead of the sweet Jillybean, she didn't completely mind. I mean she understood the sacrifices this canonized character was making, but she also had other issues on her mind. She was hoping to tell him of the dastardly deeds of that dickhead Tybalt. But since our most holy hero couldn't make it, she figured she'd let it slide for a bit.

And so she did. And slide it did.

And she didn't invite him along for a morning jog. He was probably rescuing baby kittens from a burning house at the time anyway (I understand you can carry more than one kitten at a time too, bonus!)

And then things slipped further, it probably wasn't a good idea to invite him along to meet her friends. They were quite wealthy and placed a significant value on money. This may bring down wrath from the pious mc, it would be quite a scene if he started whipping them with righteous anger. Plus he was probably off fasting in the desert somewhere anyway.

And so, the most reverent mc and the virgin lady slowly drifted apart. And then she tore him a new one at the restaurant, and the rest is history. Or herstory if you've been paying attention in gender studies.
Now that the Jill appeasement is done, look for Shazba's next series: why Madame is not an ugly wildebeest and why Patrick is inherently good and we should all like them. :cool:
 

shazba

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Now that the Jill appeasement is done, look for Shazba's next series: why Madame is not an ugly wildebeest and why Patrick is inherently good and we should all like them. :cool:
I've actually already posted the, "Patrick is misunderstood, he just wants to save his daughter from the pits of hell" post a while back. But the Madame will never get a pass. :sick:
 

hakuna-matata

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DPC is raking in cash. He takes his time. He does wonderful renders and animation. Great music. I do not particularly like the story and his writing needs help, but the rest is amazing. I do not feel I wasted my money when I bought the steam releases. I do not regret doing Patreon for a while. I don't regret getting banned here a few times. I don't regret expressing my opinion.......I only regret that I didn't screenshot him losing his shit on me when I pointed out some story errors..
Peace
Really?!/ Then again, it's not really a huge shock.
 
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Yokanzo

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It's been a very long time since I last played so I was just wondering about the Chick/Dik routes.

There's no penalty for going chick and not trying to fuck Sage right away until she resolves her relationship issues with Chad right? It seems like despite not going strong with her at first you still have a chance later to get involved with her.
 
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