VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[anonnyscouse]

It's interesting that the same theme presents in many other games when a rich kid threatens to sue a poor MC. As I understand it, the problem is not in the charges itself or or how much of a clown the suer is, but in the fact that the poor cannot afford a good lawyer and will lose the court anyway, no matter how ridiculous the charges are. Maybe that's why Jill took that blackmail threat seriously. And while Tybalt hardly has anything on the MC that worth the court, he has daddy's power on his side and he is vindictive enough to get the MC's ass get kicked off the college.

The problem is that Jill just takes Tybalt at his word that the other Preps would back him up. We know from just a couple of conversations with the other Preps that they hate Tybalt as much as anyone else and wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire let alone back him up in court. Surely Jill living with them should be able to see that too? All she had to do was ask another Prep what happened and she'd know that Tybalt hit first (if indeed Fuckface even hit back), there was no fire and the worst thing done was the egg throwing, and that's what the other Preps would say in court.

 

[cnovam]

excelente lástima que tarde tanto en actualizar, gracias por un buen juego

 

[Lostanddamned]

It's interesting that the same theme presents in many other games when a rich kid threatens to sue a poor MC. As I understand it, the problem is not in the charges itself or or how much of a clown the suer is, but in the fact that the poor cannot afford a good lawyer and will lose the court anyway, no matter how ridiculous the charges are. Maybe that's why Jill took that blackmail threat seriously. And while Tybalt hardly has anything on the MC that worth the court, he has daddy's power on his side and he is vindictive enough to get the MC's ass get kicked off the college.

It's not about taking the lawsuit seriously or not. She believe Tybalt without ever looking into it. Hell she could have found out that Tybalt is lying by just talking to Rich (or was it Lucas, my mind is hazy on that), who according to Tybalt wanted to sue the MC.

Besides, technically they can't even sue him for arson anyway, because there was no fire to begin with. The whole thing was badly written just for the sake of drama IMO, it was the most annoying storyline written until now in the entire game.

 

[LizaS]

I like how in a couple of weeks Zelda overtook your entire account, hahah. Thats cool, she is a cutiepie.

Yes, she is.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I don't think he will pull the trigger on James in the next episode. Probably at the end of episode 10 or 11 so we will have to deal with it in the episode that comes after. But seeing how the end of the third episode has always been cliffhangers, I think 11 is more likely for it to happen.

now that the relationship with Bella is "official" it can't be long before they broach the subject
it is already extremely ridiculous that they started without doing so.

in my opinion the closing of the ninth chapter would be a good solution, already late, but you can't go back in time.

it is the case that some mysteries begin to be closed

 

[Lostanddamned]

now that the relationship with Bella is "official" it can't be long before they broach the subject
it is already extremely ridiculous that they started without doing so.

in my opinion the closing of the ninth chapter would be a good solution, already late, but you can't go back in time.

it is the case that some mysteries begin to be closed

He intends to do at least 4 seasons though. If he solves all the issues by season 3, what he's going to do in season 4? IMO, he'll stretch it out, so that season 4 is actually for problem solving and season 5 will probably be for endings.

 

[desperatecub02]

It's finally here
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is this better than karlsson gambit?

 

[felicemastronzo]

He intends to do at least 4 seasons though. If he solves all the issues by season 3, what he's going to do in season 4? IMO, he'll stretch it out, so that season 4 is actually for problem solving and season 5 will probably be for endings.

so I have to wait for the 16th chapter to know what happened to James?
come on now, let's not go overboard

finding out what happened to him is not the same as having solved the problem, but it is developing the premise, which is still ridiculously stuck, figuring out what needs to be done

and if "old problems" end there will be new ones added as in every narrative (as there are already new ones added with every chapter...)

 

[HoshiEx]

so I have to wait for the 16th chapter to know what happened to James?
come on now, let's not go overboard

finding out what happened to him is not the same as having solved the problem, but it is developing the premise, which is still ridiculously stuck, figuring out what needs to be done

and if "old problems" end there will be new ones added as in every narrative (as there are already new ones added with every chapter...)

guess have to play "waiting game" to the end?

 

[Lostanddamned]

so I have to wait for the 16th chapter to know what happened to James?
come on now, let's not go overboard

finding out what happened to him is not the same as having solved the problem, but it is developing the premise, which is still ridiculously stuck, figuring out what needs to be done

and if "old problems" end there will be new ones added as in every narrative (as there are already new ones added with every chapter...)

You got the wrong impression, my friend.

We will get some clues here and there as to what happened, which will keep us guessing and discuss it more and so the game gets even more exposure. Quite the simple marketing trick my friend. Have people talk about your product more and more, so that even more people find out about it.

We will probably get another hint in the next episode about James and probably will find out about the locked room in episode 11. Then at the end, James will be shown coming back in the epilogue and we will have to deal with him in episode 12 and possibly 13.

The guy has ready storylines in work already, what's the point of him blowing them all off in one episode and dig himself into a hole to think new storylines to keep people interested in the game?

 

[desperatecub02]

so I have to wait for the 16th chapter to know what happened to James?
come on now, let's not go overboard

finding out what happened to him is not the same as having solved the problem, but it is developing the premise, which is still ridiculously stuck, figuring out what needs to be done

and if "old problems" end there will be new ones added as in every narrative (as there are already new ones added with every chapter...)

is this better than karlsson gambit i havent played this yet

 

[shazba]

so I have to wait for the 16th chapter to know what happened to James?
come on now, let's not go overboard

finding out what happened to him is not the same as having solved the problem, but it is developing the premise, which is still ridiculously stuck, figuring out what needs to be done

and if "old problems" end there will be new ones added as in every narrative (as there are already new ones added with every chapter...)

A bit of mystery is fine, but it's best if it's maintained sensibly.

You don't start dating a woman who has pictures of her fucking husband in her house without asking a few questions. It's ok that Jill didn't tell him stuff, because maybe it's not her place to say, but the mc should definitely be questioning Bella by now, and she owes the mc some answers.

If it's innocuous then it's just a response like, "Yeah, I was married before, but it ended 3 years ago. It's taken me a while to get over it, but your cock has done wonders for me." But if she's still not able to talk about it, the mc should back the fuck away.

 

[felicemastronzo]

guess have to play "waiting game" to the end?

I don't think so, for some things I can even accept it, for example at the question of Maya's debt it was necessary for it to drag on for a long time, but knowing whether the woman you are dating is really married or widowed is not a question that "can pass mind," it was not at the first question, then it must be the second question.

now the real problem will be to see how long we will have to wait not for the ninth chapter, which changes little whether it comes out in october or november, but for the tenth. if we don't get back to timelines under 6 months for me it will be really bad news

 

[yossa999]

Surely Jill living with them should be able to see that too? All she had to do was ask another Prep what happened and she'd know that Tybalt hit first (if indeed Fuckface even hit back), there was no fire and the worst thing done was the egg throwing, and that's what the other Preps would say in court. [...]

We all know that Jill is a little bit dense naive, so she assumes at first that people speak truth. But while there was no fire, she would find that Derek has started the sprinkler system and MC helped him. So, they at least vandalized the mansion in front of the witnesses, aren't they? And the clothes they stole, everybody have seen them wearing it. No matter that they threw it away before leaving the mansion (And Derek stole the cane and hat with him, if I'm not mistaken). I think there is definitely something for a lawyer to work with.

 

[shazba]

We all know that Jill is a little bit dense naive, so she assumes at first that people speak truth. But while there was no fire, she would find that Derrik has started the sprinkler system and MC helped him. So, they at least vandalized the mansion in front of the witnesses, aren't they? And the clothes they stole, everybody have seen them wearing it. No matter that they threw it away before leaving the mansion (And Derrik stole the cane and hat with him, if I'm not mistaken). I think there is definitely something for a lawyer to work with.

This is a dangerous discussion to start...

I think about 95% of posters to this thread are lawyers, so it gets pretty heavy!

 

[felicemastronzo]

You got the wrong impression, my friend.

We will get some clues here and there as to what happened, which will keep us guessing and discuss it more and so the game gets even more exposure. Quite the simple marketing trick my friend. Have people talk about your product more and more, so that even more people find out about it.

We will probably get another hint in the next episode about James and probably will find out about the locked room in episode 11. Then at the end, James will be shown coming back in the epilogue and we will have to deal with him in episode 12 and possibly 13.

The guy has ready storylines in work already, what's the point of him blowing them all off in one episode and dig himself into a hole to think new storylines to keep people interested in the game?

for me you are completely off the mark on the question

clues are fun to figure out things you don't even suspect, but there is no point in relying on clues to know things you should just ask!!!

why should MC rely on clues to know whether the woman who asked him to stop dating other girls is free or not? he knows that at least she has been married, what should he/she wait for?

it just doesn't make any sense that MC and Bella are SERIOUSLY dating each other without talking about it, as long as it was a matter of sex and that's all we could accept that both of them were comfortable not broaching the subject, but that's enough now, there is no excuse.

to give an example: one thing is Lana, it is a grief for Jill, MC may be curious but he has no right to know what happened, he can figure it out on his own or wait for Jill to want to talk to him about it

 

[anonnyscouse]

We all know that Jill is a little bit dense naive, so she assumes at first that people speak truth. But while there was no fire, she would find that Derrik has started the sprinkler system and MC helped him. So, they at least vandalized the mansion in front of the witnesses, aren't they? And the clothes they stole, everybody have seen them wearing it. No matter that they threw it away before leaving the mansion (And Derrik stole the cane and hat with him, if I'm not mistaken). I think there is definitely something for a lawyer to work with.

That's the problem. The Jill of the first 3 episodes could spot a bully from a mile away even when the victim denied it. But suddenly she's too naive to spot what Tybalt is doing. As for the vandalism and theft the only proof would be against Derek, and I can't see him pushing Fuckface under a bus. In fact if anything he'd take the whole blame to protect Fuckface.

 

[Lostanddamned]

This is a dangerous discussion to start...

I think about 95% of posters to this thread are lawyers, so it gets pretty heavy!

shazba: 95% of posters on this thread are lawyers.

Also shazba:

 

[felicemastronzo]

We all know that Jill is a little bit dense naive, so she assumes at first that people speak truth. But while there was no fire, she would find that Derek has started the sprinkler system and MC helped him. So, they at least vandalized the mansion in front of the witnesses, aren't they? And the clothes they stole, everybody have seen them wearing it. No matter that they threw it away before leaving the mansion (And Derek stole the cane and hat with him, if I'm not mistaken). I think there is definitely something for a lawyer to work with.

if Tybalt had simply told Jill the truth, MC would have been completely cut off, because he was completely irresponsible

instead Tybalt managed to lose before he even started

I have doubts that Jill could then find out anything ... since he didn't even have the initiative to ask Trent (the Prep who according to Tybalt wanted to expose MC) his side of the story

 

[Lostanddamned]

for me you are completely off the mark on the question

clues are fun to figure out things you don't even suspect, but there is no point in relying on clues to know things you should just ask!!!

why should MC rely on clues to know whether the woman who asked him to stop dating other girls is free or not? he knows that at least she has been married, what should he/she wait for?

it just doesn't make any sense that MC and Bella are SERIOUSLY dating each other without talking about it, as long as it was a matter of sex and that's all we could accept that both of them were comfortable not broaching the subject, but that's enough now, there is no excuse.

to give an example: one thing is Lana, it is a grief for Jill, MC may be curious but he has no right to know what happened, he can figure it out on his own or wait for Jill to want to talk to him about it

I don't think you get my point, pal.

MC clearly knows that James or the locked room isn't something that Bella feels comfortable talking about. His monologue after the dinner clearly emphasized that he should not rush things and take steps at Bella's pace. Clearly you aren't expecting everything to be solved in the range of 2 episodes?

We will get to a point where Bella and MC will be forced to talk about it, I just don't see your reasoning of rushing things. Would it have been better if after the dinner at Bella's house she was like "yeah, let me tell you about James - the locked room was a nursery of the child I miscarried and my marriage to James' fell apart, but he's gone now, come up to my bedroom after you clean up"?