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While I never really hated her, I admit, a boo-boo nose and the sappy music is all it took to make me care about her. (..and the family backstory). Before that she was a fun side piece, after EP6 she became the 2nd most interesting character arc, after Bella's.




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the biggest mystery of BADIK is why DPC felt it necessary to allow us to upgrade the portfolio just to be able to afford Madame.

the worst investment since my gym membership
 

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John Boy: in the end the only balanced one with the "big brother" attitude. always quiet, never carried away by impulses.

Jacob: if it weren't for the embarrassment at the HOTs' party he might have been in first place, but hiding in the hallway leaving the dirty work completely in MC's hands is really pusillanimous. and I want to forgive him for the half-sentences about Sage's parents, for that I only blame DPC.

Jam Jam: he has only one flaw, he has absolutely nothing to do with DIKs, he is the least DIK of all DIKs

Rusty: leader of the DIKs only because he pays the bills, a spoiled man without a shadow of a doubt, but at least good-hearted. the only leader trait he has is the ability to mediate, to always seek compromise between different positions without leaving anyone excluded. otherwise without MC the DIKs would already no longer exist and without Rusty's father's money they simply would never have existed.

Derek: I am generous, I put him in the middle of the ranking, because in the end if you are not interested in Maya he is a funny clown, with no sense of proportion, but who if you see him once a week also keeps you amused. on the other hand if you somehow care about Maya he is the most direct obstacle, more than Patrick who despite the key is less intrusive than Derek. Jill once unintentionally blocks us with Bella and we still insult her, he does it repeatedly, at every opportunity, with Maya and we tell him "Ehy Bro!!!"... double standards...

Tommy: he has so many flaws, but in the end he is the only one who cares about the DIKs if not as people at least as a fraternity, for the others it is little more than a hiding place (in the end the DIKs are the losers of the BR, neither rich, nor strong, nor smart). he does care, he wants them to be respected

Nick: like Jam Jam completely a foreign body to the DIKs, the others fuck, he studies, the others yell, he asks politely. negative compared to Jam Jam he has this suspicion hovering over him. he may not be the traitor, but that is the impression DPC gives of him.

Leon: if he were not Jam Jam's friend, bromance, he would be completely transparent. of positive that he at least likes to have fun.
Yes, I agree that Jamie needs to grow his own balls. Ask Dani to fuck herself and eat her fucking rabbit.
I'm sure DIKs would have continued without Tremolo. But it would be very difficult and it would take six months or more to recover. Rusty had some kind of back up plan, we remember that in Episode 8. I guess it was taking out a loan from the bank.
Or maybe selling his expensive sport car. The MC is not the center of the universe and life will not stop without it. But everything will be different.
Now the point with which I don't agree. Derek. He gets in the way more than Patrick, seriously? This maniac terrorizes and blackmails his own daughter. Patrick is slowly but steadily destroying her mental health. Really, if we don't find a way to stop him, Maya would end up in an asylum or commit suicide.
Derek is very overprotective when it comes to his sister. Yes, he attacks the MC if you are on the Maya path, but why?
The reason is their family situation. Derek sees that Maya is suffering because of Patrick, he knows about the situation with Josy and then MC appears and creates even more problems for Maya. Derek knows MC has a side relationship until he finds out it's Josy.
Look at the situation from his point of view. Derek doesn't want his sister to get hurt again. I even respect him for how he treats his sister, protecting her, covering her up and always supporting her. I look at many families with several children and at least a third of them had such a close relationship as these two. Close in the normal sense. In their relationship, we can see the main title of the game "Family comes first." They are a real family, and Patrick doen't deserve this title and should go to a jail.

Oh, I remembered something about Leon. He did all the dirty work during Hell Week while Jamie was a chicken. So Leon has DIK affinity, I was a bit wrong.
 
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felicemastronzo

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Yes, I agree that Jamie needs to grow his own balls. Ask Dani to fuck herself and eat her fucking rabbit.
I'm sure DIKs would have continued without Tremolo. But it would be very difficult and it would take six months or more to recover. Rusty had some kind of back up plan, we remember that in Episode 8. I guess it was taking out a loan from the bank.
Or maybe selling his expensive sport car. The MC is not the center of the universe and life will not stop without it. But everything will be different.
Now the point with which I don't agree. Derek. He gets in the way more than Patrick, seriously? This maniac terrorizes and blackmails his own daughter. Patrick is slowly but steadily destroying her mental health. Really, if we don't find a way to stop him, Maya would end up in an asylum or commit suicide.
Derek is very overprotective when it comes to his sister. Yes, he attacks the MC if you are on the Maya path, but why?
The reason is their family situation. Derek sees that Maya is suffering because of Patrick, he knows about the situation with Josy and then MC appears and creates even more problems for Maya. Derek knows MC has a side relationship until he finds out it's Josy.
Look at the situation from his point of view. Derek doesn't want his sister to get hurt again. I even respect him for how he treats his sister, protecting her, covering her up and always supporting her. I look at many families with several children and at least a third of them had such a close relationship as these two. Close in the normal sense. In their relationship, we can see the main title of the game "Family comes first." They are a real family, and Patrick doen't deserve this title and should go to a jail.

Oh, I remembered something about Leon. He did all the dirty work during Hell Week while Jamie was a chicken. So Leon has DIK affinity, I was a bit wrong.
from an extremely cynical point of view:

at what juncture is Patrick an obstacle to the relationship with Maya?

Without the loan problem Maya would not even have a reason to deepen her friendship with MC and see if she could like boys.
without Patrick at the first movie on the bed Maya would have told MC that she was engaged to Josy who would soon join her at BR. and it would have all ended there.

instead "bro" Derek is constantly a hindrance, after forcing Maya to host MC he reacts worriedly to any hint of a relationship between the two (ok, that's humanly forgivable). but afterwards he personally intervenes to stop the cuddling between Maya and MC, because as he later explains he was also fine with MC not knowing anything, but he couldn't stand the idea of Maya cheating on Josy. he never encourages their relationship. and then when MC could finally enjoy a moment with his girls he thinks it's a good idea to forcibly infiltrate the very sad party at the water park

then of course Patrick is a morally negative character while Derek isn't. mine was clearly a provocation, but the only thing Derek does in favour of the relationship with Maya is forcing her to host MC (knowing that his sister was interested in the girls and at the time "engaged" which already doesn't seem like much of a gift), but at the back I don't think he would do that either


on the fate of the DIKs: eventually selling his car Rusty pays for the windows... I'd say the back up plan must have really sucked
it's Rusty's last year, if the DIKS didn't get back on their feet immediately they would never have done it again, they didn't have six months
 
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1. Jacob. Repeatedly backs up the MC in ways that he doesn't need to, has all the benefits of the nicer DiK's, with one major upside: he's fucking hot. Like, the hottest guy in this game by a country mile. Makes me want a fem protag mod/remake with him as a romance option.
Female protagonist + mention of interracial. After that, the real nightmare usually begins in the comments. :LOL:
 
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from an extremely cynical point of view:

at what juncture is Patrick an obstacle to the relationship with Maya?

Without the loan problem Maya would not even have a reason to deepen her friendship with MC and see if she could like boys.
without Patrick at the first movie on the bed Maya would have told MC that she was engaged to Josy who would soon join her at BR. and it would have all ended there.

instead "bro" Derek is constantly a hindrance, after forcing Maya to host MC he reacts worriedly to any hint of a relationship between the two (ok, that's humanly forgivable). but afterwards he personally intervenes to stop the cuddling between Maya and MC, because as he later explains he was also fine with MC not knowing anything, but he couldn't stand the idea of Maya cheating on Josy. he never encourages their relationship. and then when MC could finally enjoy a moment with his girls he thinks it's a good idea to forcibly infiltrate the very sad party at the water park

then of course Patrick is a morally negative character while Derek isn't. mine was clearly a provocation, but the only thing Derek does in favour of the relationship with Maya is forcing her to host MC (knowing that his sister was interested in the girls and at the time "engaged" which already doesn't seem like much of a gift), but at the back I don't think he would do that either


on the fate of the DIKs: eventually selling his car Rusty pays for the windows... I'd say the back up plan must have really sucked
it's Rusty's last year, if the DIKS didn't get back on their feet immediately they would never have done it again, they didn't have six months
Patrick interferes with Maya and Josy relationship. And does it in a terrible way, not to mention credit fraud is a crime. Remember Maya saying she's going to be fucked financially for the rest of her life? I think in the thread, if there are people who have had problems with credit, they will tell you how bad it is.
I want to go a little deeper into psychology to show the differences between Derek and Patrick.
Patrick's motivation: religious fundamentalism (how I hate religious people, damn) the desire to control the life of another person. It's likely due to his complexes, the lust for power and the tyranny of the little man.
Derek's motivation is to protect his sister from pain because he loves her. Also a feeling of discomfort.
About discomfort. I think that I get the main trump card. Imagine that you have a friend whom you see every day, communicate with him all the time, live under the same roof. And you have a sister. So, this friend of yours is fucking your sister. You shake his hand, this hand was in your sister's pussy a couple of hours ago. For many people, this can be very uncomfortable.

Another difference between Patrick and Derek. Patrick terrorizes his daughter, not allowing her to be with the one she loves.
Derek doesn't terrorize his sister...he's more of a friendly warning to the MC and says he's not comfortable with it. Yes, his paranoia once took over at the water park and we got a funny, hilarious scene in the store. I just laughed at that moment.
"WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO TO MY PERVERT SISTER! DO NOT SELL HIM CONDOMS!"

Oh really? Shame, you'd think people on a porn site wouldn't be judgemental of other's sexual tastes
Think? I saw it. Recently a new college game like BaDIK has been released. The main character is a black guy. There was so much shitstorm there, like it was a far-right rally. Really weird people. :HideThePain:
 

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Oh really? Shame, you'd think people on a porn site wouldn't be judgemental of other's sexual tastes
Judgmental? More like full on flame wars, with death treats and all if their specific deviation is not getting catered. Its probably one of the weirdest, touchiest 'fanbases' I've ever been part of.

But the users responding to you were just memeing.
 

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Patrick interferes with Maya and Josy relationship. And does it in a terrible way, not to mention credit fraud is a crime. Remember Maya saying she's going to be fucked financially for the rest of her life? I think in the thread, if there are people who have had problems with credit, they will tell you how bad it is.
I want to go a little deeper into psychology to show the differences between Derek and Patrick.
Patrick's motivation: religious fundamentalism (how I hate religious people, damn) the desire to control the life of another person. It's likely due to his complexes, the lust for power and the tyranny of the little man.
Derek's motivation is to protect his sister from pain because he loves her. Also a feeling of discomfort.
About discomfort. I think that I get the main trump card. Imagine that you have a friend whom you see every day, communicate with him all the time, live under the same roof. And you have a sister. So, this friend of yours is fucking your sister. You shake his hand, this hand was in your sister's pussy a couple of hours ago. For many people, this can be very uncomfortable.

Another difference between Patrick and Derek. Patrick terrorizes his daughter, not allowing her to be with the one she loves.
Derek doesn't terrorize his sister...he's more of a friendly warning to the MC and says he's not comfortable with it. Yes, his paranoia once took over at the water park and we got a funny, hilarious scene in the store. I just laughed at that moment.
"WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO TO MY PERVERT SISTER! DO NOT SELL HIM CONDOMS!"


Think? I saw it. Recently a new college game like BaDIK has been released. The main character is a black guy. There was so much shitstorm there, like it was a far-right rally. Really weird people. :HideThePain:
Oh man that sounds awful, wow! What game was it? Like specifically? I'd like to... uhh... give a good debate :sneaky:
 
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Patrick interferes with Maya and Josy relationship. And does it in a terrible way, not to mention credit fraud is a crime. Remember Maya saying she's going to be fucked financially for the rest of her life? I think in the thread, if there are people who have had problems with credit, they will tell you how bad it is.
I want to go a little deeper into psychology to show the differences between Derek and Patrick.
Patrick's motivation: religious fundamentalism (how I hate religious people, damn) the desire to control the life of another person. It's likely due to his complexes, the lust for power and the tyranny of the little man.
Derek's motivation is to protect his sister from pain because he loves her. Also a feeling of discomfort.
About discomfort. I think that I get the main trump card. Imagine that you have a friend whom you see every day, communicate with him all the time, live under the same roof. And you have a sister. So, this friend of yours is fucking your sister. You shake his hand, this hand was in your sister's pussy a couple of hours ago. For many people, this can be very uncomfortable.

Another difference between Patrick and Derek. Patrick terrorizes his daughter, not allowing her to be with the one she loves.
Derek doesn't terrorize his sister...he's more of a friendly warning to the MC and says he's not comfortable with it. Yes, his paranoia once took over at the water park and we got a funny, hilarious scene in the store. I just laughed at that moment.
"WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO TO MY PERVERT SISTER! DO NOT SELL HIM CONDOMS!"


Think? I saw it. Recently a new college game like BaDIK has been released. The main character is a black guy. There was so much shitstorm there, like it was a far-right rally. Really weird people. :HideThePain:
Having established that Patrick is bad bad bad bad (the comparison with Derek was an obvious provocation), this does not make Derek a better friend towards mc.

He doesn't trust mc, he doesn't feel like invading Maya's privacy by warning mc about her special situation, but at the same time he has no problem with them living together and invading Maya's privacy when it comes to interfering in her relationship with mc.

And after the relationship is practically official she decides to try to ruin her bro's birthday party, out of "jealousy"


But he is a bro...
 

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Having established that Patrick is bad bad bad bad (the comparison with Derek was an obvious provocation), this does not make Derek a better friend towards mc.

He doesn't trust mc, he doesn't feel like invading Maya's privacy by warning mc about her special situation, but at the same time he has no problem with them living together and invading Maya's privacy when it comes to interfering in her relationship with mc.

And after the relationship is practically official she decides to try to ruin her bro's birthday party, out of "jealousy"


But he is a bro...
While your comparison to Patrick was provocative, it worked. He is the top 1 on my character hate list.

Yes, Derek is "bro" to me for a variety of other reasons, now we were looking at a specific episode if the MC is involved in Josie/Maya.
You view people's behavior and their actions a little differently than I do, and that's okay.
I cross out Maya, I look at other actions.
Derek:
1. Helped MC morally when he was ready to give up and leave college
2. Helped with housing, after MC left as a result of a fight with Troy.
3. Does the craziest shit of Hell Week, covering for his maggot brother if he's a chicken.
4. Helped with housing after the Maya/Josie drama. Again.
5. Helps find other girls by recommending Swiper. Again moral support
6. Covers the MC when preps attack him

If I now open the game, I will find a dozen more points, these main ones are taken from memory.
So, it's time for me to get a job as a lawyer. :)
 

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3. Does the craziest shit of Hell Week, covering for his maggot brother if he's a chicken.
Doing his part during hell's week I don't think is such a great merit, MC brings points and Derek will have to bring the others.

Derek cares immensely about being a Dik, much more than mc. And that's also the main reason why he cares that he doesn't drop out of college (the dumbest decision mc is going to make) in fact instead of making him go back to his room, which poor Neil pays for, he convinces him that diks is the only way.

Also taking him in after he finds out about Josy and Maya can't be this much merit.... Since he could have saved him all that shock.
 

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Yes, I agree that Jamie needs to grow his own balls. Ask Dani to fuck herself and eat her fucking rabbit.
I'm sure DIKs would have continued without Tremolo. But it would be very difficult and it would take six months or more to recover. Rusty had some kind of back up plan, we remember that in Episode 8. I guess it was taking out a loan from the bank.
Or maybe selling his expensive sport car. The MC is not the center of the universe and life will not stop without it. But everything will be different.
Now the point with which I don't agree. Derek. He gets in the way more than Patrick, seriously? This maniac terrorizes and blackmails his own daughter. Patrick is slowly but steadily destroying her mental health. Really, if we don't find a way to stop him, Maya would end up in an asylum or commit suicide.
Derek is very overprotective when it comes to his sister. Yes, he attacks the MC if you are on the Maya path, but why?
The reason is their family situation. Derek sees that Maya is suffering because of Patrick, he knows about the situation with Josy and then MC appears and creates even more problems for Maya. Derek knows MC has a side relationship until he finds out it's Josy.
Look at the situation from his point of view. Derek doesn't want his sister to get hurt again. I even respect him for how he treats his sister, protecting her, covering her up and always supporting her. I look at many families with several children and at least a third of them had such a close relationship as these two. Close in the normal sense. In their relationship, we can see the main title of the game "Family comes first." They are a real family, and Patrick doen't deserve this title and should go to a jail.

Oh, I remembered something about Leon. He did all the dirty work during Hell Week while Jamie was a chicken. So Leon has DIK affinity, I was a bit wrong.
I agree about Derek and Maya, but I think Jaime and Dani as a couple get a little too much flak. Yes, Jaime can be indecisive and Dani can be too controlling, but they clearly do see eye to eye on a lot of other issues; Dani is a lot more supportive of Jaime's 'secret' hobbies that Leon seems to be. Hopefully Jaime and Dani can work out the problems and shore up the strengths if we encourage them to reconcile in Season 3. I'd certainly find that more satisfying that Jaime working his way through the Vixens with Leon, but to each their own.


from an extremely cynical point of view:

at what juncture is Patrick an obstacle to the relationship with Maya?
Seriously? Patrick is the whole reason the MC and Maya/Josy can't become an official throuple. Tommy might complain about Josy, but as Quinn says, leave him a lone for a few days and he'll get over it. And Derek will back off as long as Maya is happy. But Patrick is a lethal threat to any open relationship, which means we're going to be stuck on Maya's loan crisis subplot for at least another season. :mad:

Without the loan problem Maya would not even have a reason to deepen her friendship with MC and see if she could like boys.
without Patrick at the first movie on the bed Maya would have told MC that she was engaged to Josy who would soon join her at BR. and it would have all ended there.
If you want to argue that without Patrick the MC would never have had a chance with M&J because they'd have been an official couple when he met them, that's certainly valid. But given that Josy wasn't accepted to B&R at first and the difficulty the two have communicating (to say nothing of how quickly each took to the MC), I think there's a strong possibility the MC might have found a way even without Patrick's ultimatum.

instead "bro" Derek is constantly a hindrance, after forcing Maya to host MC he reacts worriedly to any hint of a relationship between the two (ok, that's humanly forgivable). but afterwards he personally intervenes to stop the cuddling between Maya and MC, because as he later explains he was also fine with MC not knowing anything, but he couldn't stand the idea of Maya cheating on Josy. he never encourages their relationship. and then when MC could finally enjoy a moment with his girls he thinks it's a good idea to forcibly infiltrate the very sad party at the water park
When he interrupts the MC and Maya in Episode 3, please note this line:
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The strong implication being that he'll accept Maya dating the MC if she actually breaks things off with Josy first. That fits his behavior later on if the MC tries for the throuple: he settles for a really lame prank when the MC flat out says he's sleeping with both girls in Episode 5; he helps smuggle Josy into the MC's room in Episode 7 and never checks up on them; he gets himself invited to the water park, but leaves the MC alone with both girls for the bulk of the visit. The only time he actually tries to interfere with the MC on the throuple path is if he sees Bella do a walk of shame (which is fair), and his histrionics during the shopping trip in Episode 8 (which I admit was a problem).

On the whole, I think Derek's been a net positive for an MC pursuing Maya. His bark is much worse than his bite, and even his bark is pretty limited. That could change post-crossroads if the MC keeps trying to play the field, but presumably we'd be bringing that on ourselves.
 

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Doing his part during hell's week I don't think is such a great merit
Jumping on granny grenade goes well beyond just doing his part. Everybody in the DIKs acknowledges it, to the point where it becomes obvious tie-breaker if you get 7-7 score (and Jacob burning his secret code on it)

As for getting in the way of relationship with Maya... eh, he tolerates them making out in front of him during MC's belated birthday party, so he'll eventually come around. Probably.
 
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