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DavDR

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You say it like it's a fact that everyone else is just too oblivious to understand, when really it's just your opinion. I's just a simple case that this game doesn't appeal to you as much as other games you prefer.

Everyone has different tastes, but this game has struck such a chord with so many people, it's just sheer arrogance to sit there and say, "it's not a good game" and "BaDIK the AVN equivalent of the worst kind of mainstream drivel".

In my opinion, I haven't played a game here that's better:
  • I started my AVN exposure with Summertime Sage and I loved it,
  • Then I discovered A Town Uncovered when looking for similar games and, although the game's art is sub standard and the game is far from complete, I loved the characterisations (the relationship with the teacher was written so genuinely),
  • Then I found "The Headmaster", a completely different game, but a must for anyone with a spanking fetish (a total fucking must),
  • Then there was Taffy Tales, which I enjoyed (quite a unique one with the mc's alter ego),
  • I also gave Milfy City a go (before I found out the dude had "abandoned" it long ago). I liked the relationship development (except for the whole rape-your-family-in-their-sleep thing, but I could never go back and play it again, it's boring now.
At that point, Summertime Sage still had my love, it was my first and I was still looking for something like that (The Headmaster is a solid "side bitch" though, I can't say enough, if you are into spanking you must give that game a go).

Then I stumbled on to Being a DIK. This game destroyed all other games for me. The character renders are very good, but more importantly for me, they come off the page, their personas are so present, so likeable, that I actually give a shit about some pixels on my screen.

The story is very compelling. I'm not saying it's a masterful story, it's really quite a simple tale, but enough is happening (and the way it's being delivered) that it keeps us here, musing over the game, for months between the updates.

Unlike any other game, the minute I finished playing it, I started playing it again. I couldn't get enough. I even started reading this thread and began posting (initially to try to convince some dumbasses that Jill wasn't the mc's aunt... :rolleyes:).

I've tried other similar games since this one:
  • Acting Lessons - For all the hype, it did nothing for me and ended up losing interest eventually (completed it but didn't care),
  • A.O.A - Got bored of that eventually,
  • Frosh Life - got put on hold too soon, quite enjoyed that one,
  • Melody - Had to fast forward in the end, found the game slowly evolved into boring waffle,
  • University of Problems - Enjoyed it for a while but can't be bothered with the latest update,
  • WVM - Lost interest very quickly.
And even other well received games haven't impressed me like this game:
  • City of Broken Dreamers - It's a good game but I wouldn't care if I never played the next episode or not,
  • Depraved Awakening - Played it through to the end but didn't care about any of the characters,
  • Heavy Five - Became boring after a while, basically I don't care about any of the characters,
  • Leap of Faith - Makes we want to puke how the women's entire existence seems just to be to love the mc, can't even be bothered with the latest update,
  • Once in a Lifetime - Was fun, good intriguing story, but I'm not likely to play it again,
  • Pale Carnations - Not sure why I like this game, it's too unpleasant for my tastes, maybe I don't know myself as well as I thought :sneaky:,
  • Rebirth - Started off ok, but it's just dragging on and the characters are mostly 2-dimentional and the music is horrendous!
  • What a Legend - Really cliched humour, minuscule updates and the mc is mostly pathetic. I can't understand why this is such a favourite.
In comparison, I fucking love BaDIK. I can't wait for the next update and I know I'm gonna binge on it the second it drops here. I'll probably even start the entire game again when the next episode arrives because I know I'll enjoy it that much.

The fact that BaDIK has so many likeable (or "hateable") characters just goes to show how well it's been created:
  • Anthony: The likeable douche who's an "enemy" but even he doesn't see the point in that.
  • Arieth: The crazy nympho; she hardly says anything in the game, but when she does, it's always gold. She's a legend for just how stupid she is.
  • Ashley: The shy girl you want for your friend but also want for yourself.
  • Burke: We all hate him and yet he's done nothing bad to the mc (except b a lousy husband to Jade), how many conspiracy theories is he wrapped up in?
  • Caleb: The mountain we want to conquer (ok, hope that didn't come out wrong)
  • Camila: Super sexy girl who is there to remind us this is a porno, and we love her for it!
  • Cathy: The shy, late bloomer teacher, she may not look hot but we care about her future at B&R
  • Chad: A complicated character. Not because he's gay, but because he was pitted as the enemy, the mc even stole his girlfriend, but he could become an ally in future.
  • Dawe: Total moronic asshole that we love to hate (and beat up).
  • Derek: What's there to say about this guy, almost everyone loves him and his antics
  • Elena: She's not just the nympho girlfriend of John Boy (with their kinky underwear attitude), she could also be starting to become a significant character in the HOTs hierarchy.
  • Envy/Nicole: the ultimate MILF. The few scenes with her in this game have been more satisfying than all the MILF characters I've come across in other games.
  • Heather: Total bitch, everyone wants to fuck her though, just to fuck with Tommy.
  • Isabella: What on earth can I say to sum up this bombshell!?
  • Jacob: The other bro, to offset Derek's insanity.
  • Jade: Every schoolteacher fetish rolled up into the perfect specimen.
  • Jill: The ultimate virgin. A total fan favourite.
  • Josy: The perfect girl next door, sadly probably the most underdeveloped LI, but lets hope she gets more character development soon. In spite of that she still draws a lot of attention from fans.
  • Karen: How did such a marginal character make such an impression?
  • Lily: What started off as a blatant Harley Quinn has turned into a very interesting character.
  • Magnar: He's a cliché for sure, but who else are we gonna have to host the DnG games?
  • Maya: The damsel in distress. You either love her or hate her. She's probably more polarising than Quinn!
  • Melanie: She hardly has much to do with the story (other than her involvement in the Chad arc) but she stands out in every scene she's in.
  • Nick: Just a quiet background character who could be harbouring a game changing secret.
  • Neil: A wholesome parental figure in a genre filled with incestuous mothers and dead fathers. Neil is a great guy.
  • Patrick: Either you hate him or you hate him. For a character that's had no chance to defend himself, the hatred is already entrenched!
  • Quinn: We know she's bad for us, but we want her anyway.
  • Riona: What is it about her that endears her to so many. She's a tragedy waiting to happen! :cry:
  • Rusty: The friendly president of the DIKs. We don't even have all that much to do with him, but he's likeable all the same (hell people have been paring him up with Jill for ages).
  • Sage: Total sexbomb. Of course there's more to her than just sex, but the sex is so much fun!
  • Sally: Maybe because she seems untouchable, but this feisty character sure has her share of fans.
  • Sandy: OK, maybe I'm on my own with this one... :(
  • Sarah: She's not even pretty, but there's definitely something about her.
  • Steve: Another asshole character that's memorable even though he's long gone.
  • Tommy: An angry fucker that is slowly becoming the mc's friend (don't trust him though)
  • Tybalt: This guy we love to loathe. Sure we can't take him seriously, but we can still hate his guts!
  • Vinny: His presence is there even though we've never met him. Big things are instore for this dude I'm sure.
There are more characters than that, but these are the ones that stand out to me. How many games or even tv series can boast such a list of enjoyable or interesting characters? Most games here have a handful of characters, and they suck.

The effort, the humour, the nuance, the drama, the characters, the personalities, the sex scenes, the music, the pace. It all rolls together to make an extremely enjoyable game. It's common to see a first time poster to post on this thread, "Best game ever", because they fucking loved it.

But you don't like it. That's ok. Just letting you know, your opinion is wrong. But, in your own words, "no one WILL ever convince you. If you had a more introspective outlook that might bother you."
See, how long did it take you to write all of that? If my opinions upset you so much why don't you just ignore them?
 
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godkingxerxes

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" I just don't think it's quite as large and omnipresent a flaw as you do."

No you wouldn't, you guys have bought this game hook, line, and sinker. And if that's what you like, more power to you.

The whole point of my criticism of this game, and it's creator, is that it's not a good game, it's just a really well marketed one. That makes BaDIK the AVN equivalent of the worst kind of mainstream drivel, no creativity, no depth, no soul.
If this isn't a good game, what is the standard of good? How many games at one time can be considered good?

It's like saying JF Caron isn't a good strongman because he's never won World's Strongest Man.
 

DavDR

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Right, and my point is BaDIK *is* a good game, with strengths that more than compensate for the very real flaws it does have.

The game's never going to be for everyone and I have no problem with people who don't like it. But frankly I see no indication that it's soulless or devoid of creativity. Whatever DPC is, he isn't the AVN equivalent of Michael Bay cranking out Transformers sequels.
From about the third or fourth season BaDIK has given me an unmistakable Game of Thrones vibe.

The worst thing though is the over the top devotion that BaDIK fan's have for the game. Yes the music is good, but many other games have good music. Yes, there are some excellent renders in the game but there's also some really awful ones and overall the quality is inconsistent at best. The animations are mediocre. The characters are compelling but in fact are basically stock characterizations. The worst part though is that having gotten the player hooked on the characters DPC doesn't know what to do with them, the story is the fatal flaw in the game.
 

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" I just don't think it's quite as large and omnipresent a flaw as you do."

No you wouldn't, you guys have bought this game hook, line, and sinker. And if that's what you like, more power to you.

The whole point of my criticism of this game, and it's creator, is that it's not a good game, it's just a really well marketed one. That makes BaDIK the AVN equivalent of the worst kind of mainstream drivel, no creativity, no depth, no soul.
I completely disagree with you.

Out of interest can you name 3 AVNs that you think are objectivly better? I think I can guess one or maybe 2 you will say but can't imagine a way BaDIK wouldn't be in anyones top 5.

I'm not quite sure how any AVN could be 'mainstream' but i'd imagine that is a personal opinion on the genre's that you like. To say it has no depth is simply not ture. From a pure plot POV there is a somehwat complex narrative around drugs, prostitution, and school politics. It has a huge cast of characters who all have thier own personalities, many of whom have interpersonal relationships outside of that with the MC. On a simple mechanics level it has more going on that any other VN i've played (before you poo-poo this please give some examples of games with more mechanics that are implemented at least as well).

I find it very strange that you would argue the game has no soul. I can't think of an AVN with a world that feels as alive as BaDIK. Again can you give some examples of games you think
 

shazba

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See, how long did it take you to write all of that? If my opinions upset you so much why don't you just ignore them?
Au contraire, I love talking about this game, so you just give me more opportunity for me to write what I like about it.

Everytime when shazba write something tldr
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I know what you mean, when I see other people's posts that aren't even half the size of mine I just glaze over and can't get myself to read them.

It does surprise me sometimes how many people can be be bothered reading what I write, but my ego tells me my posts are highly insightful and entertaining, so it all makes sense. :p
 
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SpearOfReigns

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The whole point of my criticism of this game, and it's creator, is that it's not a good game, it's just a really well marketed one.
Ah yes, as we all know Dr. Pinkcake and his great marketing strategy such as
*squints*
Banning low tier patrons from discord for discussing new update before their supposed release date
Threatening to launch a barrage of DMCA claim & close a subreddit if he isn't given authority
Banning $75 tier patron for leaking custom render

If anything, this game is popular & a success in spite of the "marketing". Shows how good it really is
 

Pi Quantum

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Sarah: She's not even pretty, but there's definitely something about her.
Agree with most of your points, but particularly this one. I wasn't much of a Sarah fan until the scene in Gender Studies where she tells Maya the blunt truth, but she really grew on me after that.
 
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vogelbeest

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If anything, this game is popular & a success in spite of the "marketing". Shows how good it really is
DPC only needs a few guys to regularly write here BADIK is trash and we see plenty responses saying his game is great...
In a marketing point of view DPC must love to have a few bashing his work when they have over fifty or hundred posts in this thread, there's no better proof their messages are meaningless, you need just 1 post to write a game is bad....
 
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Nattrack

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If this isn't a good game, what is the standard of good? How many games at one time can be considered good?

It's like saying JF Caron isn't a good strongman because he's never won World's Strongest Man.
This game is good, but just because 99% of porn-erotic games are pure crap, the same way a shard of glass shines like a diamond among pebbles. But that doesn't make a shard of glass a diamond. If we compare this game with TV, this is a juvenile Disney-channel soap-opera mixed with "National Lampoon's Animal House", not "The Sopranos".
 
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DavDR

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Ah yes, as we all know Dr. Pinkcake and his great marketing strategy such as
*squints*
Banning low tier patrons from discord for discussing new update before their supposed release date
Threatening to launch a barrage of DMCA claim & close a subreddit if he isn't given authority
Banning $75 tier patron for leaking custom render

If anything, this game is popular & a success in spite of the "marketing". Shows how good it really is
Have you ever heard of controversy marketing? Hollywood has been doing it for a while now. DPC uses it quite effectively.

If you read far enough into this forum you will learn that at one time DPC posted here, but according to some people he was driven away from the forum by trolls and critics. Personally I think that was his intention all along.
 

godkingxerxes

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This game is good, but just because 99% of porn-erotic games are pure crap, the same way a shard of glass shines like a diamond among pebbles. But that doesn't make a shard of glass a diamond. If we compare this game with TV, this is a juvenile Disney-channel soap-opera mixed with "National Lampoon's Animal House", not "The Sopranos".
Yeah I was going to add that comparing AVNs with top of the line video games, they obviously fall short.

But I didn't think anyone was looking at those games as a standard for "good".

As I said this sort of argument is similar to the silly cunts out there that say LeBron James sucks because he isn't Michael Jordan .

And yes, your TV description is accurate but in this universe there is no Sopranos.
 
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Nattrack

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And yes, your TV description is accurate but in this universe there is no Sopranos.
Well, in this universe there are great games in terms of story and characters, only not porn ones. We know what is real quality in games . But one thing is true: the dev is trying to make a juvenile soap-opera mixed with "National Lampoon", and that's exactly what he delivers. He's not trying to make "The Sopranos". It´s just that some people here think that "Being a DIK" is "The Sopranos".
 
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hyfka

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He's not trying to make "The Sopranos". It´s just that some people here think that "Being a DIK" is "The Sopranos".
This. The charcters, story, writing, minigames are decent. Not great, really just meh.
But in a world where the average porn game story is that all women are perpetally horny nymphos who the MC seduces simply by the power of his magic johnson, this one is quite a welcome exception.
 

godkingxerxes

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Well, in this universe there are great games in terms of story and characters, only not porn ones. We know what is real quality in games . But one thing is true: the dev is trying to make a juvenile soap-opera mixed with "National Lampoon", and that's exactly what he delivers. He's not trying to make "The Sopranos". It´s just that some people here think that "Being a DIK" is "The Sopranos".
But we're talking about the standard of porn games, so we're not counting studio developed games. So even though these games exist, ignore them and only compare BaDIK to other games of its genre.

And I don't think the people here think this game is anywhere near a Sopranos level, the writing is consistently criticized, and short comings are pointed out.

This game is American Pie and all other college based games here are barely Scary Movie.

So while BaDIK isn't best game ever, it's a levels maybe even two above its nearest competitor.

It's not Pinkcakes fault that these other guys can't write a story better than his. Even with this emotional lesbian MC.
 

Kellermann

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If you read far enough into this forum you will learn that at one time DPC posted here, but according to some people he was driven away from the forum by trolls and critics. Personally I think that was his intention all along.
I think DPC genuinely needed/wanted F95 at first, but when the popularity of BaDIK took off, this site quickly outlived its usefulness. Now he actively hates this place and anyone who even mentions it. At this point, he is so successful and wealthy that he does not need to be that proactive with his marketing tactics. F95 still probably does a majority of the marketing for this game even if DPC chooses not to acknowledge the symbiotic relationship.
 
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