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Crepusculum

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I can't help myself, I gotta weigh in on this one! :D

Bella does consider herself married. She tells the mc in episode 2:

Bella: "This didn't happen."​
Bella: "You're still drunk."​
mc: "Are you...sure?"​
Bella: "Fuckface... I'm a married woman."​
mc: "Oh..."​
Bella: "Go to sleep."​
mc: "(Damn...)"​

But she also thinks it to herself shortly afterwards:

Bella: "(Why did he...?)"​
Bella: "(I don't understand...)"​
Bella: "(I feel so...so...dirty...)"​
Bella: "(This is not what a married woman does...)"​

So there's that; Bella considers herself a married woman. But it's complicated. If we continue her thoughts from the above scene:

Bella: "(I'm so sorry...)"​
Bella: "(It just caught me completely off guard...)"​
Bella: "(How long has it been since a man did this to me?)"​
Bella: "(Three years?)"​
Bella: "(No, that can't be right...)"​
Bella: "(I haven't gotten an urge to touch myself...that's all...)"​
Bella: "(Until tonight...)"​

Three years? She hasn't done anything sexual for roughly three years? Where has her husband been for that time? Because of the Burke-looking soldier in the mc's alcohol fuelled stumble through Bella's house, there is some speculation that he's in the army, but a 3-year tour of duty is kinda not likely.

So there aren't any legit explanations that can innocently explain why he's been AWOL for three years.

In episode 3, when Bella is lashing out at students in the library, the cause for it is the sexual tension between her and the mc while at the same time she is helping to set him up with Jill. Her thoughts once again:

Bella: "(I can't lash out at students like that...)"​
Bella: "(...)"​
Bella: "(I did the right thing.)"​
Bella: "(This was for Jill.)"​
Bella: "(Married women don't fool around with young students.)"​
Bella: "(...)"​
Bella: "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"​
Bella: "(But that...that was different!)"​
Bella: "(It doesn't matter... I've stopped it.)"​
Bella: "(Please, James... Forgive me.)"​
Bella: "(Please, just come home again...)"​
Bella: "(It's been long enough now.)"​

The first part she's talking about how she shouldn't be fooling around with the mc, but the second part, being intimate with friends, we don't know who she's talking about (but there's some speculation it's Jill based on their argument in bed when the mc's on the couch). Then she goes on to ask for James' forgiveness and for him to come home again (after 3 years as we've speculated above).

But then in episode 4 (if you stay at Bella's house), she has the following thoughts about the mc:

Bella: "(Why can't I stop thinking these dirty thoughts about him...?)"​
Bella: "(All these words that I'd never dare tell him...)"​
Bella: "(It's adultery...isn't it?)"​
Bella: "(Can I just decide to move on?)"​
Bella: "(What if James comes home?)"​
Bella: "(Would he blame me if I did this?)"​
Bella: "(After all this time?)"​
Bella: "(I have forgiven him...)"​

So she is aware that moving on is an option on the table, she's just found it difficult. On top of that, she forgives him. So earlier she was asking for forgiveness (for the mc, or for something that happened long ago) and now she's saying she forgives her husband. What went down three years ago?

Then in episode 6, the mc confronts her feelings:

mc: "We both want it. We wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't so."​
Bella: "Yes, but I feel ashamed for wanting it..."​
mc: "Because of that ring on your finger?"​
Bella: "Yes."​
mc: "I get it..."​
mc: "But correct me if I'm wrong..."​
mc: "I've had the feeling he's not around anymore... Am I wrong?"​
Bella: "No, it's...different today."​
mc: "Then, if that's the case... I don't see why you should feel ashamed."​
mc: "You should be allowed to feel something else."​

Of course the mc is just a horny cunt trying to convince a girl to suck his dick, but he's not wrong. Her husband is gone, and has been gone for quite some time. Their marriage is over, but Bella is struggling to come to terms with it. How Bella's situation got to this point we don't know, she and her husband could have both been unfaithful, had a big fight, and he left but she didn't want it to end at the time. Or, he died, and she's struggling to accept it. Who knows.

Bella had no intention to start the relationship with the mc, she didn't file for divorce because she may have been holding out for her husbands return, or she used the marriage (and the ring) to keep men (particularly Burke) at a distance because she wasn't ready for another relationship.

None of this makes her a bad person, and if your husband leaves you and three years later you start to have feelings for someone else. I don't believe that's cheating.

By the end of episode 7, if the mc is with her, she removes her ring. She decides it's time to move on. At some time she should probably legally get a divorce if it's required (assuming her husband isn't dead).

But we also have the mc's internal monologue in episode 3 when he makes out with her in the library:

mc: "At the time I couldn't understand Bella."​
mc: "The attraction was there, but for her it felt so wrong."​
mc: "I remember feeling bad about kissing a married woman."​
mc: "I figured she felt the same since she was being unfaithful to her husband..."​
mc: "...which, of course, is a very big deal."​
mc: "But if I had known the real reasons to her tears..."​
mc: "...and to her persona..."​
mc: "I wouldn't have kissed her that night."​
mc: "I would have called out for help."​

There's something more to Bella's predicament, something more serious than we've come to understand at this point.

Of course, depending on your decision, there is definitely one thing that Bella is doing that is pretty terrible. While setting Jill up with the mc, and fully aware of how strong Jill's feelings are for him, she's fucking the mc behind Jill's back. But if you're not on Bella's path, none of that happens, so you can't hold it against her.

Bottom line: Her husband has been gone for 3 years. She's finally decided to move on and start a new relationship. That's not cheating. Finalizing a divorce would be a good idea though.

And for the record, some people feel guilty starting a relationship even if their spouse has died (and that's literally the end clause to a marriage, "'till death do us part"). Relationships and the feelings that are associated with them are probably one of the most complicated things we deal with in our lives, and so many people are not qualified to do it.
Hey man, amazing summery, you put all the points and relevant quotes in one place! Thank you!

What are your theories about the this part:
mc: "But if I had known the real reasons to her tears..."​
mc: "...and to her persona..."​
mc: "I wouldn't have kissed her that night."​
mc: "I would have called out for help."​
 

kyrlian

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Bottom line: Her husband has been gone for 3 years. She's finally decided to move on and start a new relationship. That's not cheating.
Yes it is. A softer version of cheating if you will.

Thats one of the biggest plot holes in the story imo, woulndt you want to know if the woman you're involved with is married or wtf is happening? You wouldnt care for a one night stand but romancing Bella is different, it definitely is one of the first things you would want to know but Tremolo doesnt ask once more.
 

shazba

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Yes it is. A softer version of cheating if you will.

Thats one of the biggest plot holes in the story imo, woulndt you want to know if the woman you're involved with is married or wtf is happening? You wouldnt care for a one night stand but romancing Bella is different, it definitely is one of the first things you would want to know but Tremolo doesnt ask once more.
The mc is just enjoying sex with her, same as with Jade, it's not like he wants to marry her. But things change, and it goes from lust to a serious interest. The mc even say to Bella, "I've had the feeling he's not around anymore... Am I wrong?" Bella acknowledges he's gone. Should more be discussed? Definitely once they started dating. Unfortunately Halloween robbed us of any progression of this nature.

Regarding the cheating, it depends on the law of your country. Typically after one year of separation you can get a divorce any time you want. You can't remarry until you're divorced for legal reasons, but there's nothing wrong with dating or simply fucking others.

But ultimately cheating is a moral issue, not a legal one. If the husband fucks off for three years, the marriage is over. Whether it's formalised with a divorce, or Bella doesn't bother, no one would expect Bella to just sit at home and wait like a good little girl.

Hey man, amazing summery, you put all the points and relevant quotes in one place! Thank you!

What are your theories about the this part:
mc: "But if I had known the real reasons to her tears..."
mc: "...and to her persona..."
mc: "I wouldn't have kissed her that night."
mc: "I would have called out for help."
I'm going with James being dead and Bella is fucked up. Don't know if I'll go so far as to say she killed him.

But another good theory is they lost a child and it fucked the marriage up.
 

The Glorious LIME

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I personally don't care much for the fine details of the Bella cheating thingy while playing that route since I play it from the MC's point of view, a less experienced horny kid's mind.
If he's alive and off doing tours I'll drop her ass.
I enjoy the route for it's somewhat more complex and darker tone.
All the routes have something unique and interesting to them(can't say for MJ route, have no intention of playing it atm).


is there a post for save files? google/f95 search feature is letting me down
First page, in extras.
 

MyNameIsDicky

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keep getting this error, when i get to the basement to do the slime key puzzle. Gets me stuck in a loop, does anyone have a fix?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/freeroam/episode9/ep9_freeroam_ph2_events.rpy", line 1348, in <module>
File "game/scripts/misc/flashlight.rpy", line 23, in render
TypeError: '<' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'int'
 

gatts69

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Anyone else have an idea how to fix the bella loop, i'm stuck in a loop with bella and a mask but she changes to her zombie suit again ....
 

KekWGgWP

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I said some posts ago that i would like for Quinn to become an LI but thinking about it, maybe there s a reason she s not, and im saying Acting Lessons reason, the crap she s involved in i wouldn t be surprised.
Well she isn't now but she will become for sure, that's something i'm certain about.

There are many hints and she does enjoy being around MC
 
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Klepon

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keep getting this error, when i get to the basement to do the slime key puzzle. Gets me stuck in a loop, does anyone have a fix?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/freeroam/episode9/ep9_freeroam_ph2_events.rpy", line 1348, in <module>
File "game/scripts/misc/flashlight.rpy", line 23, in render
TypeError: '<' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'int'
usin some mod ? try update..
 
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