VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

I suppose in a way it *is* guardianship. Tremolo is a full-time student at a university. He is subject to their rules and regulations. And he doesn't get to decide how those are implemented. It would be the same if the characters were in a workplace environment. If Jill saw Chad harassing Tremolo at work, most employers would expect her to report it, even if Tremolo didn't want that. It's her w orkplace, too.

The culture of denunciation as it is. God forbid, such a colleague at work as Jill. If anything goes wrong, she'll snitch on you next time.

How to get this scene with unknown girl??

Others route, Derek's bar after first free roam.

 

[DanMotta]

It would actually work in any number of institutional environments where some sort of liability is involved, such as workplaces or the military.



This is wrong. If there are witnesses, the assailant can absolutely be prosecuted. It's up the prosecutor, not the spouse. They may choose not to, if the victim is unwilling to testify, but it is incorrect to say that they *cannot* be arrested or punished.

Stop getting all technical to try to prove your bullshit lol. If one eye witness report that they saw you beating your wife, and they go to talk to your wife and she says that you didn't beat her up, no one will do anything about it lol. It won't even get to the prosecutor because it won't even be filed a report to the police lol. If they say you were both fighting, and both of you say you didn't fight even if your faces are all bruised, they won't do anything either. It is that one person word, against yours.

Even if you get assaulted in world wide tv as Will Smith smacked Cris Rock at the Oscars, with everyone witnessing it, and Chris Rock say he won't file a report, nothing happens. There is a huge difference between how the things works in the world in your head, and how it actually works.

Also, the same goes to workplaces or military. If it is the word of 1 person against 2, if there are no other ways to prove what you said, you just gonna look bad. Unless you are Jill in being a dik.

 

[Drearash]

Stop getting all technical to try to prove your bullshit lol.

You made an incorrect statement and were corrected. Deal with it.

If one eye witness report that they saw you beating your wife, and they go to talk to your wife and she says that you didn't beat her up, no one will do anything about it lol. It won't even get to the prosecutor because it won't even be filed a report to the police lol. If they say you were both fighting, and both of you say you didn't fight even if your faces are all bruised, they won't do anything either. It is that one person word, against yours.

If other people saw it, and wish to report it, that is no longer the case. If a neighbor calls the cops to complain about a domestic disturbance, there will absolutely be a police report. That is how many of those cases get reported in the first place. If that neighbor saw actual assault going on, or even videotaped it, there is a non-negligible chance it would go further, with or without the victim's cooperation.

Even if you get assaulted in world wide tv as Will Smith smacked Cris Rock at the Oscars, with everyone witnessing it, and Chris Rock say he won't file a report, nothing happens. There is a huge difference between how the things works in the world in your head, and how it actually works.

Right, because celebrity experiences are how the world actually works for everybody else. If I decked a cooworker in front the rest of the office, I guarantee you I would be out on the street that afternoon with or without a complaint from the victim.

Also, the same goes to workplaces or military. If it is the word of 1 person against 2, if there are no other ways to prove what you said, you just gonna look bad. Unless you are Jill in being a dik.

And again, we are talking about precisely those cases where there is a person 3, 4, etc.

But all this is a red herring. The issue is not about what the institution would do, but what the responsibility of witnessing individuals are. A tenant who hears suspected domestic abuse going on in the next unit has not only the right, but the civic duty, to call the cops. At least in most jurisdictions I'm familiar with. Many, perhaps even most, will choose not to do it, because it's "none of their business". That does not make the ones who do choose to do so wrong.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I suppose in a way it *is* guardianship. Tremolo is a full-time student at a university. He is subject to their rules and regulations. And he doesn't get to decide how those are implemented. It would be the same if the characters were in a workplace environment. If Jill saw Chad harassing Tremolo at work, most employers would expect her to report it, even if Tremolo didn't want that. It's her w orkplace, too.

let's assume though that Jill doesn't do this, she doesn't make a personal complaint about what she witnessed (always legitimate).

she organises a meeting where MC has to attend and where she has already put her version of what happened (which she does not know) in everyone's mouth, which is not MC's and which we know is not the real one, bullying has nothing to do with it

it is not exemplary behaviour, by any means, it may be justifiable, it is basically for good, but it is not JUSTICE come down to earth

if a friend, a person you know is wronged but does not want to report it, the correct behaviour is to encourage him to do so and give him all the support he can, not to force him

then if we want to talk about realism: the punishment given to Chad is out of this world, a micro-suspension from fraternity activities for beating up another student for apparently no reason

 

[Ano00]

dose anyone had this problem with the game closeing? i mean i imported the saves from s2 to s3 interlued and it worked fine i played the interlued and now with the latest version i load the save left,it loads and after few dialogues from that hallowen party game shuts by its self....why is that does anyone know?

 

[Drearash]

let's assume though that Jill doesn't do this, she doesn't make a personal complaint about what she witnessed (always legitimate).

she organises a meeting where MC has to attend and where she has already put her version of what happened (which she does not know) in everyone's mouth, which is not MC's and which we know is not the real one, bullying has nothing to do with it

it is not exemplary behaviour, by any means, it may be justifiable, it is basically for good, but it is not JUSTICE come down to earth

if a friend, a person you know is wronged but does not want to report it, the correct behaviour is to encourage him to do so and give him all the support he can, not to force him

then if we want to talk about realism: the punishment given to Chad is out of this world, a micro-suspension from fraternity activities for beating up another student for apparently no reason

I haven't played that part of the game in a while. I admit that I had forgotten that she did not actually witness the event in question. She only knows of it by hearsay from Tremolo, right? That changes a lot, and it makes her actions a bit more problematic, I agree.

It also makes a lot of what I said previously inapplicable. I'm surprised no one else pointed it out before.

It also makes the disciplinary committee's actions a bit harder to understand. They should have contacted Tremolo first and asked if he had anything he wanted to say to them. If not, it should have died there.

 

[Cabin Fever]

My advice is starting with the 20% extra happiness perk

I think DIK Party or Multiplier Madness are even better.

But in any case the in-game advice of starting with Pink Weib or Crowdfunding are both mediocre.

 

[IvanGam]

Finally finished all branches in ep 9 and wanted to write a few words about each girl some girls (and update my old tierlist from ep 7). Note that this also takes into account my enjoyment from watching a character interact with MC and how they integrate into the story overall, not just how good of a waifu the character is.



1) Bella. Really enjoyed her branch, good lewds, nice humor and chemistry with MC. Looking forward to more content.

2) Josy was great in this update. She is one of my favs but usually got dragged down by Maya before. She and MC have the best synergy as a couple overall and she had a lot of great moments (phone call from her father etc). Even if not on M&J route, it's interesting how things will turn out (with all that foreshadowing of them splitting).

3) Nicole is great, I really like her and her interactions with MC so far. Beautiful mature woman, condident, no drama, hot sex. What not to like? And based on ep10 preview, her fans will be eating good in the future.

4) I still enjoy Quinn's story, and this update basically gave us even more romantic interactions between her and MC. At the same time, I can't ignore all the warnings that shit is about to go down for her and how it all develops can drastically change my views on Quinn and her plotline. Plus learning that she even lied about Riona smoking for free doesn't add her any points.

5) My first run was on Sage's branch and I was honestly close to placing her in tier A. But after playing other branches and thinking about it, this is mostly MC's fault (who the fuck thinks about Tyballs when a hot redhead cheerleader is riding your cock?). Her interactions with MC were pretty off this update and I am not a fan of her dirty talk or anger issues, but overall Sage's interactions with people at the party (Jill, Josy, Isabella) and a walk of shame were enjoyable.

6) The buildup for a separate Riona branch was happening in previous episodes and continues in ep 9. I like where this is going, looking forward to Rio's future content.

7) Best in "best friend that you can fuck" tier. I like Zoey and like how DPC introduced her into the story. Looking forward to her future content.

8) Maya was actually enjoyable this update because all her drama was in the beginning (and wasn't even that annoying), at the party she was having fun and had her good moments with MC/Josy.

9) Great lewd scene with Mel and Sarah, but I prefer Mel's looks (+ the morning after surprise ) so she's higher.

10) Jill route was a mixed bag. It had it's moments, but overall I'm annoyed by how naive/cringe she is. Jill feels like the least compatible LI with MC and that's an achievement when there's Bella who has her personal drama and is twice the age of MC. Overall the least enjoyable route.

11) Jade. Tier B for being a Bitch . I enjoyed her lewd scene and when you are still having an affair with her but man, she is a real bitch in other situations (I can understand when you broke up with her, but she is being one even when you didn't allow her to go further in ep3).

12) Becky... I was looking forward to her future lewd scenes with MC in the past because of that hot deepthroat scene at the HOTs, but this update really killed her as a side girl. At least it introduced some hot alternatives (Tiffany ).

 

[Green Isosceles]

I see yet another person does not understand the concept of civic duty or institutional responsibility.

My friend, many of the posters in here are literally too stupid to read the first post of this very thread that explains why their game keeps looping/crashing. You may as well be asking a housecat for stock advice.

 

[KАRАMBA]

That changes a lot, and it makes her actions a bit more problematic, I agree.

Hmm, another motivation is possible. Bad girl Jill planned everything. She made MC's ass a target for Chad. It remains only to wait for the terrible denouement, and record the heartbreaking incident on video. And then she could hold these guys by the balls. She could make them do different things... Behind the mask of a good girl lurked an insidious manipulator.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I haven't played that part of the game in a while. I admit that I had forgotten that she did not actually witness the event in question. She only knows of it by hearsay from Tremolo, right? That changes a lot, and it makes her actions a bit more problematic, I agree.

It also makes a lot of what I said previously inapplicable. I'm surprised no one else pointed it out before.

It also makes the disciplinary committee's actions a bit harder to understand. They should have contacted Tremolo first and asked if he had anything he wanted to say to them. If not, it should have died there.

Sorry, I misspoke. Jill sees Chad assaulting MC, or at least the final part of the assault. but what she denounces is the bullying of which MC is allegedly the victim, which in Jill's thinking is a certainty reinforced by Dawe's actual bullying of MC

so she is not denouncing what she saw, but the interpretation she gave to the incident, an interpretation which MC denies.

 

[Xincarnation]

I start playing it again from scratch and I find the work behind this novel incredible, I really look forward to chapter 10

 

[Drearash]

Sorry, I misspoke. Jill sees Chad assaulting MC, or at least the final part of the assault. but what she denounces is the bullying of which MC is allegedly the victim, which in Jill's thinking is a certainty reinforced by Dawe's actual bullying of MC

so she is not denouncing what she saw, but the interpretation she gave to the incident, an interpretation which MC denies.

Okay, that goes back to making it harder for me to see what she did wrong. Any witness who reports a crime will present their interpretation of it, and will do so before the victim does. Sorting things out is an investigator's job.

 

[vecinogenerico]

Finally finished all branches in ep 9 and wanted to write a few words about each girl some girls (and update my old tierlist from ep 7). Note that this also takes into account my enjoyment from watching a character interact with MC and how they integrate into the story overall, not just how good of a waifu the character is.

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1) Bella. Really enjoyed her branch, good lewds, nice humor and chemistry with MC. Looking forward to more content.

2) Josy was great in this update. She is one of my favs but usually got dragged down by Maya before. She and MC have the best synergy as a couple overall and she had a lot of great moments (phone call from her father etc). Even if not on M&J route, it's interesting how things will turn out (with all that foreshadowing of them splitting).

3) Nicole is great, I really like her and her interactions with MC so far. Beautiful mature woman, condident, no drama, hot sex. What not to like? And based on ep10 preview, her fans will be eating good in the future.

4) I still enjoy Quinn's story, and this update basically gave us even more romantic interactions between her and MC. At the same time, I can't ignore all the warnings that shit is about to go down for her and how it all develops can drastically change my views on Quinn and her plotline. Plus learning that she even lied about Riona smoking for free doesn't add her any points.

5) My first run was on Sage's branch and I was honestly close to placing her in tier A. But after playing other branches and thinking about it, this is mostly MC's fault (who the fuck thinks about Tyballs when a hot redhead cheerleader is riding your cock?). Her interactions with MC were pretty off this update and I am not a fan of her dirty talk or anger issues, but overall Sage's interactions with people at the party (Jill, Josy, Isabella) and a walk of shame were enjoyable.

6) The buildup for a separate Riona branch was happening in previous episodes and continues in ep 9. I like where this is going, looking forward to Rio's future content.

7) Best in "best friend that you can fuck" tier. I like Zoey and like how DPC introduced her into the story. Looking forward to her future content.

8) Maya was actually enjoyable this update because all her drama was in the beginning (and wasn't even that annoying), at the party she was having fun and had her good moments with MC/Josy.

9) Great lewd scene with Mel and Sarah, but I prefer Mel's looks (+ the morning after surprise ) so she's higher.

10) Jill route was a mixed bag. It had it's moments, but overall I'm annoyed by how naive/cringe she is. Jill feels like the least compatible LI with MC and that's an achievement when there's Bella who has her personal drama and is twice the age of MC. Overall the least enjoyable route.

11) Jade. Tier B for being a Bitch . I enjoyed her lewd scene and when you are still having an affair with her but man, she is a real bitch in other situations (I can understand when you broke up with her, but she is being one even when you didn't allow her to go further in ep3).

12) Becky... I was looking forward to her future lewd scenes with MC in the past because of that hot deepthroat scene at the HOTs, but this update really killed her as a side girl. At least it introduced some hot alternatives (Tiffany ).

Wow, you really played a lot! Makes me feel I didn't do all the playthroughs available

So far I did:
- No romantic interest, reached ep9 with neutral aff
- No romantic interest, reached ep9 with dik aff
- Sage route
- Josy & Maya
- Jill
- Bella

In all the routes that you choose a particular romantic interest you kind of cut ties with everybody else. Did I miss something?
I still have some undiscovered scenes. Any tips?











Anyway, I enjoyed every branch so far. All of them had their good things
The only one I found a little bit bad is Jill's. Not because she is naive or "chringe" but the unprotected sex part made me feel uncomfortable
I played several games from this website and it's a common thing for MC to have unprotected sex. I am ok with it since it's part of the "fantasy" (nobody gets HIV, STD or pregnant unless the game is designed with that intention from the beggining) kind of like when you watch porn

The thing is that all of a sudden Jill's breaks that fantasy and lands you to the "land of reality": everybody is having unprotected sex and nobody seems to care despite the huge life threatening risks, which is not a good thing in RL (Arieth was the only mention of and STD but it looked like it was done to make fun of her ignorance and the alpha's)
To make it worst the MC complains both about wearing a condom or having himself tested which makes HIM a stupid ignorant and idiot. (who the hell fucks Quinn / Melani / Lily / Nicole / Sade without a condom and then complaints about someone asking you to get tested?)
If you had to be a "massive dik" on this route I would understand MC moronic view about it, but since for Jill you have to be neutral / chick I found it disturbing that MC / Dereks treat the subject like Jill is completely wrong / stupid / obnoxious.
Didn't like that part all

 

[felicemastronzo]

Okay, that goes back to making it harder for me to see what she did wrong. Any witness who reports a crime will present their interpretation of it, and will do so before the victim does.

but this is not true. in a testimony only facts count, not the experience and opinions of the witness

if I see a bike stolen I report the theft of a bike, not the criminal intent for which it was stolen in my opinion

the confrontation in this way becomes pointless, Jill reports the bullying, the bullying is not there and Chad gets off with a symbolic punishment

how is it fair for Jill to continue to maintain, in front of the authorities, a version of the incident that MC the person concerned denies? Jill goes far beyond her duties

 

[Tremonia]

The 9.1 version; I'm missing Jill 2, 13, and 15, as well as Josy 9, 15, and 16.

Also missing scenes 3, 4, and 8, if the persistent file covers those as well.

Well, are you sure you put the the file in the correct folder and renamed it like it's described in the README file? Whatever. Try this file. Extract the content into the ...\games\saves folder and don't forget to delete the old persistent file in this folder or let it overwrite.

 

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[Drearash]

but this is not true. in a testimony only facts count, not the experience and opinions of the witness

if I see a bike stolen I report the theft of a bike, not the criminal intent for which it was stolen in my opinion

the confrontation in this way becomes pointless, Jill reports the bullying, the bullying is not there and Chad gets off with a symbolic punishment

how is it fair for Jill to continue to maintain, in front of the authorities, a version of the incident that MC the person concerned denies? Jill goes far beyond her duties

If that is what she thinks she saw, then, no, it is not far beyond her duties. If you are saying that she went beyond reporting what she saw and instead expounding on what she thinks, again, that is up to the investigator(s) to rein in. It's pretty common for people to elide what they see and what they think.

 

[DatBoit]

Question: how do you guys imagine a solo Josy route (or Maya, but that seems further off) developing? How will it come to life?

The solo Josy route is clearly teased a lot, with both her and MC frequently mentioning how much they care for the each other, even if they just remain friends. Likewise, we also see that Josy and Maya's relationship is rocky (if not on the throuple path), insinuating that a breakup is on the cards. A likely development would of course be that we continue to see these themes all throughout Season 3: Josy and Maya keep bickering, and MC and Josy keep sharing moments where they realize how much they like each other. This would be the foundation for the solo Josy branch.

However, I do see a large obstacle for this to work, namely what the implications would be for Maya. If Josy and MC were to date again, it would leave Maya in very strange spot, as they are her two best friends at B&R, who she spends most of her time with. How could they ever be friends again after that, especially when the relationship between them has already been subject to a lot of drama? If they can't, then what happens to Maya? How does she stay involved in the story, if her relationship with Josy and MC deteriorates?

Another possibility is that Josy is kept only as an ending option for MC, if not on the throuple, similar to how Ana was someone you could end up with in Acting Lessons, but not actually date during the story. I believe this would be quite tragic, but it would solve all the issues of dealing with implications for Maya.

What do you guys think? How do you imagine it going?

Side note: I notice that the conversation with Josy in Episode 9, after you take a picture with her and she asks MC if her still thinks about her, seems to set a variable "ep9_josy_wonder", at either 3, 2 or 1. Perhaps there will be similar choices in coming episodes, and if you go above a certain threshold by the end of Season 3, Josy's doubts about Maya become so strong that she cannot ignore them anymore.

 

[Night Hacker]

(Chapter 1&2) So I want to focus on Isabella then should I have high DIK points or neutral?

I'm neutral on my Bella path and I have seen all the scenes with her.