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saynotoNTR

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The main problem is that Maya is boring as hell. Her free tuition problem is not interesting and it seems that it will last until the end of the game.

Maya started by dragging MC into a problem that was all her own, then she dragged Sage, and now she's dragging Jill...next to be dragged must be Bella.

Seriously, this Maya storyline kills her character.
 

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Hi guys, can anyone please tell how i can end season 2 together with Jill after i did every step or way to be with her, i help'd her with musical and everythin else before and know when i most make a choice at DIK when i talk with Elena, on me appear only mod both, Sage or others, Jill name not appear, why? I most change affinity from DIK to neutral or? Help me pls, thanks
 

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The main problem is that Maya is boring as hell. Her free tuition problem is not interesting and it seems that it will last until the end of the game.

Maya started by dragging MC into a problem that was all her own, then she dragged Sage, and now she's dragging Jill...next to be dragged must be Bella.

Seriously, this Maya storyline kills her character.
Maya is needed as a consolation prize for when DPC kills Josy.
 
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The main problem is that Maya is boring as hell. Her free tuition problem is not interesting and it seems that it will last until the end of the game.

Maya started by dragging MC into a problem that was all her own, then she dragged Sage, and now she's dragging Jill...next to be dragged must be Bella.

Seriously, this Maya storyline kills her character.
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What Maya did, she was ordered to do by Quinn. Maya did not do that on her own impulse.
On Quinn 's orders ? No, no. She did it "by order" of the student loan. For this reason, she was ready for many humiliating things. And say that she didn't do it on her own impuls, it means to mislead.
 
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Sure Maya let fuckface stay in her dorm but that doesn't mean she can sexually molest him while he sleep.
Nearly 4 years and people are still bitching about this. :rolleyes:

Lies about having a boyfriend
Women do this all the time as a defensive measure to ward off male advances, it's nothing unusual or something to get in such a state over. Also she very quickly recanted which shows her that she acknowledged her mistake and wanted to remedy it.

hide the fact that her father is religious bigots
I mean, how many people irl would really bring this up to a complete stranger?

cheated on her gf(after meeting a guy for idk few days? Atleast Josy knew MC longer and both of them had a crush on eachother)
But Josy was crushing on him from the moment she saw him, she just never had an opportunity to do anything about it until later because the MC was too shy to approach her.

With Maya, the opportunity to do something was there, plus, things developed very quickly between them because they were in daily contact with each other.

Guarantee that if she had the opportunity early like this, Josy would have been all over the MC.

She doesn't even treat Josy right if you are not dating them.
We really don't see what they're like much together outside of the throuple path, and most of the time they're both acting out of frustration.

Josy's also not exactly treating Maya right either because she's still pining for the MC and that's affecting their relationship.

I don't care if Maya has a problem or not but she is a fictional bad person. I couldn't really stay friends with someone like her.

Ps- I don't give af if she was manipulated or coerced into that shit. What she did is simply wrong and I don't think I will ever like her.
Maya is not a bad person, not by a long shot. None of her actions come from a bad place and she is not acting with bad intent. She's honestly one of the strongest characters in this game because despite what her Dad has and is putting her through, she's still standing, still fighting and still soldiering on. She was willing to put herself through uncomfortable things for the sake of her relationship by joining the HOTs. She spent so much time in S1 doing what she did for her and Josy, all the while Josy was thinking about leaving Maya, either by moving to another to part of the country, or dumping her for the MC.

It's only after she thinks that Josy has given up on her that she really embraces what she was feeling for the MC, and even thinking that the "tuition" would no longer benefit both her and Josy, Maya still determines to join the HOTs for herself believing it can still free her from Patrick.

Her fortitude despite her adversity is something I feel a lot of people overlook.
 
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Yes, but it is right and okay for Quinn to stun the MC with a teaser and in the legal sense, rape the bound MC in front of a larger crowd.
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Still a hill you're willing to die on? :cautious:


With all the hatred for Maya, but if she had not allowed the hobo MC to live in her room. No more college, brotherhood, pussy, game over. Maya is a nice character as is Jill, but of course you all hate them. At the same time, you adore the sadistic, narcissistic, drug dealing pimp Quinn :ROFLMAO:
Imagine being such a "wonderful" person that a sadistic, narcissistic, drug dealing pimp is more likeable than you :cautious: :Kappa:
 

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What Maya did, she was ordered to do by Quinn. Maya did not do that on her own impulse.
You are correct, sir.

The main problem is that Maya is boring as hell. Her free tuition problem is not interesting and it seems that it will last until the end of the game.

Maya started by dragging MC into a problem that was all her own, then she dragged Sage, and now she's dragging Jill...next to be dragged must be Bella.

Seriously, this Maya storyline kills her character.
Maya didn't drag the MC into anything. Sometimes I wonder if people are playing the same game.

The MC is always the one getting himself involved in things and is always the one offering help to people.

Maya was determined to do this all on her own, it's the MC who chooses to get involved.

Same thing with Sage and Jill. They both offer help, and Maya even tries to wave Sage off in Ep 7 when she comes to her but then she opens up to Sage because Sage opened up to her.
 

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Still a hill you're willing to die on? :cautious:
I find it funny when someone claims that Quinn didn't rape the MC...

The MC's choice was to swallow cum or let Quinn have sex with him in front of a huge crowd (with him tied to a chair).

If I give a girl a choice as disgusting as this can I get away with a rape charge? For example, "drink a glass full of sewage's water and feces or I'll rape you". :unsure:
 

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The main problem is that Maya is boring as hell. Her free tuition problem is not interesting and it seems that it will last until the end of the game.
First of all, this is your subjective feeling and does not concern all players. But I can live with your opinion and I don't have to share it.

Maya started by dragging MC into a problem that was all her own, then she dragged Sage, and now she's dragging Jill...next to be dragged must be Bella.
However, this part is simply untrue and not a theory of mine.:rolleyes:

Maya even wanted to keep the MC away from her, that's why she tells him that she has a boyfriend and also that it wouldn't be good if he was interested in her. Read about it in EP1.

Maya didn't want to bother Sage with her problem, but Sage didn't give in and pushed Maya to tell her problem to Sage. As a result, Sage offered to help Maya. Reported in EP7.

Josy asked Jill if she could help Maya and not Maya personally. Maya also did not ask Josy to talk to Jill. Josy herself told Maya that she would figure something out. Read about it in EP9.

She also asked the MC to help her for the first time at the end of EP6 and beginning of EP7. But you should take into account, so that the MC can offer her up to this point, several times themselves help, but not must.
 
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There are some very good ideas in the game, and overall it is very high quality - which comes at the price of very long update times.

But to me the biggest problem is that i don't really like any of the LI girls. Josy would be ok as a LI, but she has Maya attached and that kills the vibe.

Jill is the naive virgin, ok, for some virgin girls you would go the extra mile, for her absolutely not. Big as a truck, also nothing to like in her personality.

Sage starts out promisingly, but her character simply doesn't add up later. She is the "cheerleader" chick who is manly as it gets as she would fight with you, at the same time she also studies hard, parties hard and fucks hard - obviously quite easily. And then also dumb as it gets at the same time not to notice that her bf is gay. So she is everything but also nothing.

And then Bella, now she is fun and i like the writing, and her character is also pretty well created - only problem is that she could be our mom in the game, and i'm not into milfs.
Then you have the secondary option girls, who are sadly either strippers or prostitutes. Now i do like Riona, even Quinn, but as a LI, they are a bit too "fucked" in the story for that to work. I'm not quite feeling to "love" a girl who gives blowjobs through glory holes.

I kind of have the feeling that DPC simply doesn't want to give us a normal girl in the whole game. Every girl has serious issues and nobody is really the kind of girl that you would say wow, ok i'm in love. It feels a bit like this is his personal experience with women - (also i've played acting lessons which is again no easy story).

Also the game is struggling a bit to keep the whole story interesting. In the last few updates basically nothing has happened, some pranks, some scenes yes but no relationship difficulties, no jealousy or girl conflict, no guy conflict, no hard choices, no character development. nothing basically, just lots of free roams, millions of renders and scenes, which is fun yes, but it just got boring.

Also so many characters are in the game and most of them are not at all interesting. They are used to create a world and to set up some jokes but it got to the point where the story is suffering from so many extras. DPC is spending a lot of energy widening the world instead of progressing the story. Party, mansion minigame, painted pictures, the whole interlude thing. Did it really help the story? No. Is there any story at this point? I'm not so sure and i lost interest, unless some extra next episode comes which speeds up things.

Sorry for the long post and also if you are a big fan of the game, this is not ment to insult your feelings towards the game :)
 

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You are correct, sir.



Maya didn't drag the MC into anything. Sometimes I wonder if people are playing the same game.

The MC is always the one getting himself involved in things and is always the one offering help to people.

Maya was determined to do this all on her own, it's the MC who chooses to get involved.

Same thing with Sage and Jill. They both offer help, and Maya even tries to wave Sage off in Ep 7 when she comes to her but then she opens up to Sage because Sage opened up to her.
First of all, this is your subjective feeling and does not concern all players. But I can live with your opinion and I don't have to share it.



However, this part is simply untrue and not a theory of mine.:rolleyes:

Maya even wanted to keep the MC away from her, that's why she tells him that she has a boyfriend and also that it wouldn't be good if he was interested in her. Read about it in EP1.

Maya didn't want to bother Sage with her problem, but Sage didn't give in and pushed Maya to tell her problem to Sage. As a result, Sage offered to help Maya. Reported in EP7.

Josy asked Jill if she could help Maya and not Maya personally. Maya also did not ask Josy to talk to Jill. Josy herself told Maya that she would figure something out. Read about it in EP9.

She also asked the MC to help her for the first time at the end of EP6 and beginning of EP7. But you should take into account, so that the MC can offer her up to this point, several times themselves help, but not must.
If you don't ask for help but take it when other people offer it, you're still dragging them into a problem that's none of their business, handsome.
 

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On Quinn 's orders ? No, no. She did it "by order" of the student loan. For this reason, she was ready for many humiliating things. And say that she didn't do it on her own impuls, it means to mislead.
It is clearly written that Maya's initiation was different from the other girls. Who was responsible for that? Quinn. Ergo, Quinn ordered Maya to do it. Quinn could have chosen the initiation for Maya that the other HOTs Pledges had. But Quinn didn't do that.

Basically, Quinn used Maya's plight for her own personal pleasure. Quinn herself admits so she likes to fuck people.
 

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If you don't ask for help but take it when other people offer it, you're still dragging them into a problem that's none of their business, handsome.
So, what? She's just supposed to refuse help when offered?

What kind of fucked up logic is that?

Accepting help from people who are willing to give their time and effort into helping someone in need does not mean that person is "dragging them in". That person offering help wants in of their own volition. It's a selfless act and an act of compassion and empathy, something that seems to be sorely lacking from some people here.
 

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So, what? She's just supposed to refuse help when offered?

What kind of fucked up logic is that?

Accepting help from people who are willing to give their time and effort into helping someone in need does not mean that person is "dragging them in". That person offering help wants in of their own volition. It's a selfless act and an act of compassion and empathy, something that seems to be sorely lacking from some people here.
I do not know, dude. I usually solve my problems on my own no matter how fucked up they are... my mom told me it's called "being independent". Maybe Maya doesn't know the meaning of that word.
 

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The main girls are not without flaws, which is good because it is more realistic. In addition, it pushes the player towards a better path called "others".

I do not know, dude. I usually solve my problems on my own no matter how fucked up they are... my mom told me it's called "being independent". Maybe Maya doesn't know the meaning of that word.
most women prefer to pretend that they do not understand the meaning of these words :LOL:
 

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It is clearly written that Maya's initiation was different from the other girls. Who was responsible for that? Quinn. Ergo, Quinn ordered Maya to do it. Quinn could have chosen the initiation for Maya that the other HOTs Pledges had. But Quinn didn't do that.

Basically, Quinn used Maya's plight for her own personal pleasure. Quinn herself admits so she likes to fuck people.
Used the plight ? No. Quinn offered her something. Some kind of option. Maya is a free person, and could refuse if she was required to do something that contradicts her principles. But she agrees. And it's not Quinn's problem, it's Maya's problem.
 

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Yes, but it is right and okay for Quinn to stun the MC with a teaser
This is a bad thing to do.
And pretty dangerous, hitting the neck with a stun gun.
But it fits Quinn's personality. A sort of bad joke and special treatment for MC to see if he is pussy or not:KEK:



What Maya did, she was ordered to do by Quinn.
It's a different story with Maya.

The excuse that it was Quinn who made her do it. Haha! That's what Maya thinks too.
What else is Maya willing to do for a free tuition rumor? No responsibility. Pathetic.

Actually, I rather agree with you, her action is not particularly bad, considering that she didn't know about the stun gun. See, this is a problem. She wasn't thinking in that scene about what happens next, she wasn't thinking when she signed the contract with her father, she wasn't thinking about how HOTs get free tuition. Maya just doesn't think.
 

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Used the plight ? No. Quinn offered her something. Some kind of option. Maya is a free person, and could refuse if she was required to do something that contradicts her principles. But she agrees. And it's not Quinn's problem, it's Maya's problem.
I'll have to agree... Quinn is a bitch, but Maya hasn't shown any morals...

There's a line from the MC, when he refuses to have sex with Jade, he says he doesn't give a shit about the Devil's Pledge because he won't do something he doesn't want to just because it's written somewhere that he must.
 

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I do not know, dude. I usually solve my problems on my own no matter how fucked up they are... my mom told me it's called "being independent". Maybe Maya doesn't know the meaning of that word.
Sometimes I think that's the issue here.

People think in terms of themselves and their own experiences/outlooks and judge the characters based on them. So someone like yourself who was taught not to ask for help or even accept it has a hard time understanding Maya, and I hope you won't take offence to me saying that.

I think a lot of people judge Maya through this same lense. They don't know what it's like to need help, or have it offered to them, and some people see it as a sign of weakness to need it and/or to accept it and in the most extreme cases, some people will hate a person who they deem as "weak".

But there is nothing inherently wrong with Maya needing help and accepting it from people willing to help her. So many people need a helping hand every once in a while for mild to serious problems, and so often it's because they had support that they are able to grow and become stronger people, because "being independent" doesn't mean having to shut yourself off from help when needed and when offered. If you do that, you might find one day that you'll never get out of a bad predicament.
 
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