VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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I always fight Caleb, but he's not wrong. If it wasn't for the MC, DIK would be a bunch of pussies. MC is what keeps DIK's from being publicly humiliated.

Ehh, the dude has huge weight/size advantage. Him insulting people because they won't get in a fight that's clearly against the odds is like Vinny acting all tough while he's hiding behind a gun he pulled the moment his bullshit got called out. Frankly, pretty pathetic and embarrassing mostly for himself.

 

[felicemastronzo]

She does use it, at least once, it's shown in game.


No one ever said anything to that effect, I merely stated that I don't think she's a habitual user of heavy drugs.


What?

you are right, I remembered that you don't directly see Quinn using it

but the assumption that it's something heavy is not that it makes more sense this way, it remains very stretched.

the presence of the heroine in BADIk would be a huge "injection" of realism in a context that has always been relatively uninterested in realism, it would undo all that patina of "we will live forever"

 

[gamingdevil800]

Also take into account that it might not solely be Quinn pushing it, but Tommy was most likely also curious about using heavier drugs, he's a wild party dude and he wants to experience new and exciting things, like heroin.

So you're a dick and an ass man? Choose a side man you can't have both at the same time!

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

That's why I said he wouldn't believe heroin is not addictive.
He likes drugs and probably knows what everybody and their mother know

Then it might be as suggested by others, it is not heroin but some other opiate analogue to heroin, even in the real world oxycontin was sold as a "non addictive" alternative to other opiates, and yet it was highly addictive, the company which marketed it as non-addictive were fully aware of that reality and sold it to the public, and lobbied (bribed) politicians to make it easier for them to sell it to the public, Tommy wanted to try something, and Quinn provided it, if her telling him that it's not really addictive is enough to push him over the edge, then it is something that he already wants to believe

There is another significant nuance here. You need to imagine what the heroin trade looks like. The dealer meets with drug addicts all day. In some pre-arranged place. As a rule, crowds of drug addicts gather there. Quinn can't do that in college. Moreover, drug addicts often visit a heroin dealer without an invitation. Need compels them. Vinny can afford to do something like that. But Quinn is constantly in front of people. She can't afford it. That's why I don't believe Quinn is dealing heroin. She wouldn't be able to hide it.

And that is exactly why Quinn has the line to Tommy when he says that he's "out", it was something like "so this is the paradigm shift in our relation, you're going to turn up like an addict looking for your next fix from now on?", Quinn is selling an opiate to Tommy, regardless of how unlikely you believe it to be, and as I've stated previously, she's not a well established dealer, she only recently started selling harder stuff, and she has only been selling at B&R for less than a year since she started attending B&R roughly one year previous to the events of BADIK.

When you're starting out as a drug dealer, or you're starting out slinging some new stuff, you're going to have a more limited clientele, and she is actively looking to grow the number of people she's selling to, Tommy even convinces her that he can bring more people in to use the new opiates, he says that they'll use the DIK mansion as their trap house, and that he's willing to be the scape-goat for her if shit hits the fan, those are literally conversations in the game.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

you are right, I remembered that you don't directly see Quinn using it

but the assumption that it's something heavy is not that it makes more sense this way, it remains very stretched.

the presence of the heroine in BADIk would be a huge "injection" of realism in a context that has always been relatively uninterested in realism, it would undo all that patina of "we will live forever"

No, it's fairly clear that it's a heavy drug, there is at no point anything to insinuate that it isn't a heavy drug, and DPC said himself in a Q&A that there are going to be dark themes in BADIK, not as dark as AL, but still.

So you're a dick and an ass man? Choose a side man you can't have both at the same time!

I am the DIK Assman, I love dicking those asses, man.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Then it might be as suggested by others, it is not heroin but some other opiate analogue to heroin, even in the real world oxycontin was sold as a "non addictive" alternative to other opiates, and yet it was highly addictive, the company which marketed it as non-addictive were fully aware of that reality and sold it to the public, and lobbied (bribed) politicians to make it easier for them to sell it to the public, Tommy wanted to try something, and Quinn provided it, if her telling him that it's not really addictive is enough to push him over the edge, then it is something that he already wants to believe


And that is exactly why Quinn has the line to Tommy when he says that he's "out", it was something like "so this is the paradigm shift in our relation, you're going to turn up like an addict looking for your next fix from now on?", Quinn is selling an opiate to Tommy, regardless of how unlikely you believe it to be, and as I've stated previously, she's not a well established dealer, she only recently started selling harder stuff, and she has only been selling at B&R for less than a year since she started attending B&R roughly one year previous to the events of BADIK.

When you're starting out as a drug dealer, or you're starting out slinging some new stuff, you're going to have a more limited clientele, and she is actively looking to grow the number of people she's selling to, Tommy even convinces her that he can bring more people in to use the new opiates, he says that they'll use the DIK mansion as their trap house, and that he's willing to be the scape-goat for her if shit hits the fan, those are literally conversations in the game.

Well, if she and Tommy really decided to do this, then they're both complete cretins. They will be in jail. Unfortunately.

 

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then they're both complete cretins.

As if there was ever a doubt about that

 

[Jumbi]

No one ever said anything to that effect, I merely stated that I don't think she's a habitual user of heavy drugs.

But one of the problems associated with the use of such drugs, especially heroin, is precisely that it only takes one try to get hooked on it.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

But one of the problems associated with the use of such drugs, especially heroin, is precisely that it only takes one try to get hooked on it.

It's not some magic spell, it causes strong urges sure, but some people are better at resisting such urges than others, and Quinn seeing how her mom ended up is probably strong motivation to not succumb to the calling of the H.

Well, if she and Tommy really decided to do this, then they're both complete cretins. They will be in jail. Unfortunately.

No one ever said that they're geniuses.

 

[QBaSS]

Then it might be as suggested by others, it is not heroin but some other opiate analogue to heroin, even in the real world oxycontin was sold as a "non addictive" alternative to other opiates, and yet it was highly addictive, the company which marketed it as non-addictive were fully aware of that reality and sold it to the public, and lobbied (bribed) politicians to make it easier for them to sell it to the public, Tommy wanted to try something, and Quinn provided it, if her telling him that it's not really addictive is enough to push him over the edge, then it is something that he already wants to believe

Or maybe is some kind of martian drug smuggled from space
We can go on forever
Curious fact heroin started the same way.
I don't think it's heroin ,most likely it's something Dpc made up
Just my two cents

 

[Lovetities]

Or could be something like meth? They are addictive but not as dangerous as heroin. You need to do meth 3/4 times to get hooked while heroin takes 1 time and the craving for it is way worse than anything

 

[KАRАMBA]

It's not some magic spell, it causes strong urges sure, but some people are better at resisting such urges than others, and Quinn seeing how her mom ended up is probably strong motivation to not succumb to the calling of the H.



No one ever said that they're geniuses.

I said about Quinn that she's a genius (wonderful Quinn). Okay. Anyway, I hope she stops in time and does not go on about the idiot Tommy.

 

[OFT]

So we're back on the topic of heavy drugs?




Well, it doesn't matter whether or not you think she's dealing it, whether or not it contradicts her acquiring cocaine, or whether or not Tommy's syringe came from her or Vinny. The fact is she not only shot up, she was enthusiastic when trying to get Tommy to try it.

 

[Jumbi]

It's not some magic spell, it causes strong urges sure, but some people are better at resisting such urges than others, and Quinn seeing how her mom ended up is probably strong motivation to not succumb to the calling of the H.

I think you really are undervaluing the power of that drug, dude.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

Or maybe is some kind of martian drug smuggled from space
We can go on forever
Curious fact heroin started the same way.
I don't think it's heroin ,most likely it's something Dpc made up
Just my two cents

Agree to disagree on that, but we're going to find out eventually, maybe a year from now, maybe more, we'll see how generous DPC is with episodes.

Or could be something like meth? They are addictive but not as dangerous as heroin. You need to do meth 3/4 times to get hooked while heroin takes 1 time and the craving for it is way worse than anything

No, meth doesn't make you slonk out on a couch, if someone intravenously injects meth they'd be climbing up the fucking walls and running a marathon at the same time.

 

[QBaSS]

I think you really are undervaluing the power of that drug, dude.

He's right it's just myth

 

[mutad]

Do You really had to do this? Disfigure Quinn so badly? I laughed at Jesus-Jill but this is just too much. What's next? Are you going to change Bella into Bill?

I sure hope we see one where sage becomes sergio.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

So we're back on the topic of heavy drugs?

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Well, it doesn't matter whether or not you think she's dealing it, whether or not it contradicts her acquiring cocaine, or whether or not Tommy's syringe came from her or Vinny. The fact is she not only shot up, she was enthusiastic when trying to get Tommy to try it.


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Sharing needles, yay!

 

[ChipLecsap]

you are right, I remembered that you don't directly see Quinn using it

but the assumption that it's something heavy is not that it makes more sense this way, it remains very stretched.

the presence of the heroine in BADIk would be a huge "injection" of realism in a context that has always been relatively uninterested in realism, it would undo all that patina of "we will live forever"

The whole thing is just simply one of DPC usual flip flop.
Quinn was supposed to be the Antagonist of the story and by doing that Hard drug scene in the beginning of episode 2, it was mean to show just how BAD she is, how dangerous etc. The clear indication of, Here is the Bad girl/ guy of the story

But, as DPC started to like Quinn more, he realize He can't make her that Bad, so he made a smal retcon to that storyline, and we learned that Quinn not doing this stuff, she just sell light drugs.

And when Vinny come back to the picture, He revisit this, by showing a needle to us again,
to ensure , " See? See? , how Bad Vinny is, he is really bad like so Bad, , He is the one who selling this shit to Tommy , and he has a Gun, and so see? , he is the BAD guy. I bet you did not see that one coming, huh? I think I will ask 40 bucks for this "

There isn't really anything more to this.
I mean some of you guys give more thought into this than DPC himself.

It funny in a way, but the truth is that unlike a "certian theory maker" who believed that DPC has some grand master plan, the truth is he really doesn't have any. And as the game progress it's more and more visible, that he just goes with the flow, and made shits up as he develop, that is why he is unnable to contain himself when it's comes to episodes.

 

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Sharing needles, yay!

That's not the only needle Tommy is sharing with Quinn anyway...