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While DPC hadn't give us some numbers of progress, but most of his words sounds adorable and dope.

A whopping 4353 animation frames were produced during this time. For comparison, that's more than all static renders in episode 8.
We argue and discuss the number of animations, but damn it, this is what I've always thought about when it comes to animations. I'm glad he mentioned the number of renders for animations and compared it to the number of static renderers for an episode.
26 minutes of animations in previous episode means: 26min *60sec *30fps = 46800 frames. 47k fucking renders are hidden inside the animations. Along with static renders the whole number reaches 50+ thousands of renders. While I understand that the animation queue is not the same as static scenes renders, while most of frames produced automatically, but it's still a huge work of posing, checking for mispositions, artifacts, etc. Finally this mean, that he is able to render all static scenes within 3 weeks.

The most dissapointing thing to me is that he use the *.webm format for video. It's not the worst variant, but something like HEVC 10-bit with highest quality setting encoding would produce a great picture with very few artifacts of compression, while maintaining the same or even less size of files with animation. Webm is too lossy, especially when it comes to dark areas, shadows or some color tones. All his huge and brilliant work turns like scanning of some ancient valuable painting and then saving it with JPEG average quality preset... I just hope he saves the rendered frames originals in uncompressed state, so he may release a higher quality version later after the final release.

I've mostly spent Monday-Friday playing through the entire game and refreshing my memory regarding some specific stuff I'm about to work on.
when I played through it yesterday, I felt lots had been done.
This two moments seems very coherent to me. Last time he mentioned the episode playtesting, he said that it was only the first half of episode. Now he told just "playtesting the episode". Probably this means that he have a whole draft version of working episode on his hands, and it's cool. Refreshing memory probably refers to two things. He really didn't think a lot of the game during his vacation to really rest of all this throughs and work itself. Second - he want to fill gaps in scenes/script etc for current episode, based on some moments we seen before and some of which is wait to unfold from the very first episode.

There is much to polish and scenes left to create, so I'll jump right on it and hope to make good progress in all areas.
The new numbers would probably give us the new estimate time. It feels like he is full of energy, enthusiasm and glad to get back to work. I wouldn't bet on August release anymore, but September is still sounds quite plausible.
 

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Ask yourself the EP9 hype question from DPC's point of view.

Of course he hyped it, but not to make our mouths water, but because he himself was proud of his work. From EP1 to EP8, the branching wasn't very serious. In EP9, however, the branches are like in a nexus, which required a lot of overview and also cost a lot of work.

I'm currently playing through BaDIK again, because I bought new hardware. Thereby I always notice something new. Among them is the reason why Vinny threw the books from the MC off the shelf. Because the MC is canonically a motherfucker, even if he didn't fuck Jade. But the MC definitely makes out with Isabella in EP2. Yes Isabella has no children of her own, but that doesn't have to apply to James and many assume by the children's staircase in Isabella's bathroom so that a child once lived in the house. Furthermore, we learn in EP8 at hair divorce so that Isabella knows about it. This will be a surprise for Isabella fans. The MC is a motherfucker and he won't get out of this one.

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All in all, DPC was proud of his work in EP9 because he had a lot to subtly reveal without making it too obvious.
Damn that makes sense. I mean Bella branch was too convenient, wasn't it? Sage branch had Tybalt and Jade, Maya and Josy branch had Maya's dad and Tommy and Jill branch had her family and friends. In comparison to them Bella has a drama free and convenient route that no one is going to trouble mc. That's not DPC style. I thought in Bella branch mc had to deal with James but Vinny and Zoey? That's really something else.
 

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In comparison to them Bella has a drama free and convenient route that no one is going to trouble mc.
I mean...that route always had the biggest sword of Damocles of them all above its head due to it being kinda...illegal or at least very iffy - especially for Isabella - if it comes out.

For the Jill route the problem will likely be her mom. The "safest" route right now is the Sage path. Not sure how DPC will bring drama into that path without it feeling contrived.
 

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Damn that makes sense. I mean Bella branch was too convenient, wasn't it? Sage branch had Tybalt and Jade, Maya and Josy branch had Maya's dad and Tommy and Jill branch had her family and friends. In comparison to them Bella has a drama free and convenient route that no one is going to trouble mc. That's not DPC style. I thought in Bella branch mc had to deal with James but Vinny and Zoey? That's really something else.
Bella is a teacher and we still don't know whether this relationship is allowed at BR or not. We don't know what happened to her husband. She has obvious mental problems, panic attacks.... I wouldn't call it drama free....
 
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While DPC hadn't give us some numbers of progress, but most of his words sounds adorable and dope.


We argue and discuss the number of animations, but damn it, this is what I've always thought about when it comes to animations. I'm glad he mentioned the number of renders for animations and compared it to the number of static renderers for an episode.
26 minutes of animations in previous episode means: 26min *60sec *30fps = 46800 frames. 47k fucking renders are hidden inside the animations. Along with static renders the whole number reaches 50+ thousands of renders. While I understand that the animation queue is not the same as static scenes renders, while most of frames produced automatically, but it's still a huge work of posing, checking for mispositions, artifacts, etc. Finally this mean, that he is able to render all static scenes within 3 weeks.

The most dissapointing thing to me is that he use the *.webm format for video. It's not the worst variant, but something like HEVC 10-bit with highest quality setting encoding would produce a great picture with very few artifacts of compression, while maintaining the same or even less size of files with animation. Webm is too lossy, especially when it comes to dark areas, shadows or some color tones. All his huge and brilliant work turns like scanning of some ancient valuable painting and then saving it with JPEG average quality preset... I just hope he saves the rendered frames originals in uncompressed state, so he may release a higher quality version later after the final release.





This two moments seems very coherent to me. Last time he mentioned the episode playtesting, he said that it was only the first half of episode. Now he told just "playtesting the episode". Probably this means that he have a whole draft version of working episode on his hands, and it's cool. Refreshing memory probably refers to two things. He really didn't think a lot of the game during his vacation to really rest of all this throughs and work itself. Second - he want to fill gaps in scenes/script etc for current episode, based on some moments we seen before and some of which is wait to unfold from the very first episode.


The new numbers would probably give us the new estimate time. It feels like he is full of energy, enthusiasm and glad to get back to work. I wouldn't bet on August release anymore, but September is still sounds quite plausible.
I did a little calculation on frames of animations from Ep. 9, which was 41 weeks in development, and it turns out that the average speed in that period was 2282 frames / 2 weeks, now we see about + 90% performance increase.
But as you can see, this doesn't speed up the development, DPC adds new animations, including no-lewd, making the game more cinematic.
But it seems to be done by all developers who can afford powerful hardware. You have new opportunities - you want to realize them. Of course, I would like this guy to maintain balance and not go beyond the speed limits of Ep.9
Perhaps we will see riots again soon due to slow development. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Bella is a teacher and we still don't know whether this relationship is allowed at BR or not. We don't know what happened to her husband. She has obvious mental problems, panic attacks.... I wouldn't call it drama free....
Of course, this relationship must be made legal in some form. If you still have to keep it a secret and you have to meet like that, it's not good in the long run. It can lead to conflict and a breakup. The players don't want that. I know BR has its own rules for this... Although it's a bit of a bold idea, what if "someone" rewrites this book? :unsure: ;)
 

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I did a little calculation on frames of animations from Ep. 9, which was 41 weeks in development, and it turns out that the average speed in that period was 2282 frames / 2 weeks, now we see about + 90% performance increase.
But as you can see, this doesn't speed up the development, DPC adds new animations, including no-lewd, making the game more cinematic.
But it seems to be done by all developers who can afford powerful hardware. You have new opportunities - you want to realize them. Of course, I would like this guy to maintain balance and not go beyond the speed limits of Ep.9
Perhaps we will see riots again soon due to slow development. :ROFLMAO:
And what do you think about it ? Will it be September ?
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Bella is a teacher and we still don't know whether this relationship is allowed at BR or not.
Most colleges allow relationships between faculty and students as long as they're not in the same class. In this instance, Bella teaching one of Fuckface's classes would be a problem; beforehand there would have been no issue.
 

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If it's not a landslide for #4, my faith in humanity is officially over! :mad:

Oh wait... I lost faith in humanity years ago... :cautious:

Ok... if it's not a landslide for #4, my faith in DPC's patrons is officially over! :mad:

Oh wait... :p

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are you happy now?
 

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Of course, this relationship must be made legal in some form. If you still have to keep it a secret and you have to meet like that, it's not good in the long run. It can lead to conflict and a breakup. The players don't want that. I know BR has its own rules for this... Although it's a bit of a bold idea, what if "someone" rewrites this book? :unsure: ;)
Most colleges allow relationships between faculty and students as long as they're not in the same class. In this instance, Bella teaching one of Fuckface's classes would be a problem; beforehand there would have been no issue.
Reality does not matter, what matters is what DPC has envisaged. Considering that Bella and mc explicitly state that they do not know what the BR regulation provides for, I doubt that it will cause any problems.
 

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Ask yourself the EP9 hype question from DPC's point of view.

Of course he hyped it, but not to make our mouths water, but because he himself was proud of his work. From EP1 to EP8, the branching wasn't very serious. In EP9, however, the branches are like in a nexus, which required a lot of overview and also cost a lot of work.

I'm currently playing through BaDIK again, because I bought new hardware. Thereby I always notice something new. Among them is the reason why Vinny threw the books from the MC off the shelf. Because the MC is canonically a motherfucker, even if he didn't fuck Jade. But the MC definitely makes out with Isabella in EP2. Yes Isabella has no children of her own, but that doesn't have to apply to James and many assume by the children's staircase in Isabella's bathroom so that a child once lived in the house. Furthermore, we learn in EP8 at hair divorce so that Isabella knows about it. This will be a surprise for Isabella fans. The MC is a motherfucker and he won't get out of this one.

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All in all, DPC was proud of his work in EP9 because he had a lot to subtly reveal without making it too obvious.
What ?
 

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Reality does not matter, what matters is what DPC has envisaged. Considering that Bella and mc explicitly state that they do not know what the BR regulation provides for, I doubt that it will cause any problems.
The first half of what you said is true. DPC decides. However, you also say that since they don't know what is in the rules, it doesn't change anything. And here's what everyone fears: what if any contact is prohibited? If it turns out and Burke finds out, it will make their relationship hell. He doesn't like MC and wants to fuck Bella (the main reason, and this is true even if they are legal). And of course there may be other consequences, but I'd rather not say that. But a we agree on one thing: DPC writes the story...
 

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The first half of what you said is true. DPC decides. However, you also say that since they don't know what is in the rules, it doesn't change anything. And here's what everyone fears: what if any contact is prohibited? If it turns out and Burke finds out, it will make their relationship hell. He doesn't like MC and wants to fuck Bella (the main reason, and this is true even if they are legal). And of course there may be other consequences, but I'd rather not say that. But a we agree on one thing: DPC writes the story...
In my opinion, the fact that they are aware that there might be a problem makes a clear difference. On the one hand it creates the necessity that at some point, with badik's extreme slowness, they will find out, and at that point it seems to me unlikely that they will find out that they are free to do what they want.
 

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Just, btw. Has anyone thought about the future of the characters in terms of the remaining "rewards" for the 2D gallery?
Let's see what we have after episode 9:

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All MGs, except Maya, are only at the first level, i.e. they will still have enough scenes to unlock the future content and 2D art.

Camila, Nicole, Jade, Lily, Melanie, Quinn, Riona, Sarah are on a second level already. This means that we have to do only one scene with each of them to reach a maximum level. What this could mean? Most of them, with an exception of Jade & Nicole are HOTs sisters. What if we are probably close to the end in their paths? For various reasons and possibilities. What if reveal of Stephen's dark side business, as well as Quinn involved would blow away HOTs itself as well as most of it's sisters? Following this logic it's easy to explain the 2nd level for Jade - she definitely won't stand aside from this and affair with her won't end well. Nicole & Lily are also work in Pink Rose. If shit will hit the blower, then probably Pink Rose will collapse as well.

Remaining teachers & MILFs are Nora and Cathy. Since we had only a few content with them, it's understandable and reasonable.

And Zoey's path is just beginning.

Now back to MGs. All, except Maya are only at first level, which probably guarantee us that their stories will be dragged till the end of the game. What 2nd level would mean to Maya? Does her tuition & dad problem may end bad? So, she probably could be forced to leave B&R? Don't forget about her conversation with Stephen, he, on his side, will probably force her to leave B&R too, as it happened with Mona previously. We haven't seen what happened in time between HOT's ceremony, where Mona once again opened her mouth and breaked the agreement with Quinn that she will stay silent; and her actual leaving the B&R same day. We haven't seen the consequences of that Stephen's call to Priscilla after he had a talk with Maya and realised that she know too much. And... perhaps... that's is how Throuple & single Josy path trouble may resolve... Personally, I want to see the Throuple/single paths for both of them/good friends/break up paths and consequences and different branches/sub-branches of J&M, but I don't believe for sure that this is feasible. It's too much work, different scenes (including lewd ones) and conditions have to be done and met for this to work. That would make this whole branch even bigger than the rest, as it has been all along. I wouldn't mind if DPC implement all this, but damn it, isn't it such an elegant solution and also a source of drama? I don't like it, but if this scenes/2D art logic is correct and coherent, then probably we may lose Maya soon. If it's true, then probably all things will intensify and unfold closer to the Season 3 end. "Calm before the snow". Season 4 would probably be about fighting with consequences and leading us to the different game endings, as it was in AL.

On the other hand, this would mean that side girls content will be limited and this can explain only one remaining level for most of SGs. Because only part of them could get content in each future episode, while MGs rights to have their space and place in each episode are cemented. But Maya don't fit in this logic, again.

This is the case when I would like to be wrong and be deluded, because I like many of the side girls and I would like to see the development of relationship with them. But... the implementation of all this makes the game not just big, but huge. And the words of the DPC about the difficulties with the episode 10, while this is only the second episode with a real branching of the plot... If he tries to play and implement all the options and branches that we have on hand now, including all possible and potential permutations, then I'm afraid it will just get out of control soon or later. Probably soon than later. That's why I have such thoughts.

p.s. Finally, he may announce in times of Season 4 that "fuck all!", we are at the mid for real and are moving to 6-8 seasons. Then we may get all of the possible routes and branches being played out in full, but I would probably be dead when the last EP will come out :HideThePain:
 
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In my opinion, the fact that they are aware that there might be a problem makes a clear difference. On the one hand it creates the necessity that at some point, with badik's extreme slowness, they will find out, and at that point it seems to me unlikely that they will find out that they are free to do what they want.
We'll get the answer to everything in time...I hope (y)
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ep 10 will have 30 mins of animations or more. :HideThePain:
Suprise! Ep. 10 will be a 1 1/2 hour animation movie, 4090s be praised! :HideThePain:
If same thing happens in this episode - bunch of animations and shit no one really asked for, he shouldn't be so surprised that his fanbase turns on him. Then he will throw a fit and bitch to people just like he did after ep9.
I applaud hit work ethic but he is his own biggest enemy.
In fact, we should be grateful. Yes, grateful for these wonderful animations, which are an example of high-level art. Remembering that great thing, an Oscar-worthy animation - an unforgettable Arieth bus ride (the role of the bus driver is especially good. I doubt Marlon Brando would have done better), my heart sinks with anticipation of a new extraordinary masterpiece that the Great Master is preparing for us.
I also feel that animations in BaD are (moslty) a waste of developing time and I fear that in the next episode we'll see panoramic camera movements of street or dudes walking in slow motion like in the opening of some 90's teen fiction. In an AVN I expect that the limited animations are all in the sex scenes or to convey eroticism, because you can make just a few of them, so you have to made decisions according to priorities. If your priority is emulating the camera movements of Sergio Leone maybe you're a bit off the track.
Any time I woud prefer the rendering time dedicated to laggy and bad animations (compared to the current state of the art in that field) to be used for extra lewd renderings, extra scenes, some funny crap by Derek or even Tybalt being publicly ridiculed.
 
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