VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[iamcomming]

The problem with Maya is that she won't confront her own problems, but looks to unlikely hopes and the intervention of others. In fact there's a vastly simple solution to her problem. Drop out of college. Then she could get a job, start paying back any money she owes, then return to college in a year with a real government loan.

well, i think the collage is in usa or something like that. i dont live in usa, so not know how big the student loan, but i think a casual job cant pay the loan in one year.
when i was at my university, i got scholarship. i dont remember was mention anything about scholarship in the game, that will be Maya chance... enroll again to the collage with enough high points to get scholarship. it risky, but a solution to her problem

 

[DavDR]

Maya's drama has been pumped up beyond credibility. In fact Maya, assuming we also believe Patrick's incredible threats, has no way out. Without a scholarship she would be in the situation of having to pay 2 "student" loans . Already repaying one is a major commitment, 2 becomes impossible and condemns her "to bankruptcy."

And this creates the alibi for her desperation that leads her to believe that Quinn, whom she does not trust at all even to show her photos of the scavenger hunt evidence, is trustworthy when she promises to give her lots of money for playing a little game in a week.

And now everyone knows Patrick's blackmail and everyone needs to read the document, however. So everyone is at least as stupid and naive as Maya, if not more so as Bella

Not to crawl back into the detail that has been discussed to death already but, Maya dropping out would change the status of he 'co signed' loan (I feel stupid just typing that), leading either the lending institution or government regulators to be curious about where exactly the money from the first loan is, as only one semester seems to have been paid.

It's all pointless and unlikely to happen in game, I only suggested it to point out how utterly stupid this entire plot is and how much of a needy train wreak Maya's character is.

 

[ffive]

Government student loans are not due until you either graduate or drop out (in Maya's situation, drop out again)

That doesn't make them any less of a pile of money you'll need to pay back after you graduate or drop out again.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The only problem with the birthday date being critical to the relationship blossoming, is that it can't easily be rescheduled. Jill places too much importance on "destiny", and because MC is unfortunately unavailable for this impromptu date, she slowly loses faith in him as The One. Tomorrow doesn't work, or like right after he's done taking care of Sage, there's just no getting past destiny.

Jill is obsessed with DESTINY that's a renpy visual novel mechanics to branch a game. That's how it is working, you choose one girl and another path is closing.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Not to crawl back into the detail that has been discussed to death already but, Maya dropping out would change the status of he 'co signed' loan (I feel stupid just typing that), leading either the lending institution or government regulators to be curious about where exactly the money from the first loan is, as only one semester seems to have been paid.

It's all pointless and unlikely to happen in game, I only suggested it to point out how utterly stupid this entire plot is and how much of a needy train wreak Maya's character is.

You are right that it doesn't make any sense but to measure the behavior of the characters we are forced to believe it.

The "loan" money is completely handled by Patrick who can decide whether to give it to the college or not, but still it would be up to Maya to pay it back, while Patrick can decide whether to support her or not.

It doesn't make sense, but that's what it is. And evidently to the ears of the inhabitants of the badik universe it sounds strange but not completely unbelievable .

 

[DavDR]

That doesn't make them any less of a pile of money you'll need to pay back after you graduate or drop out again.

Then you work hard and pay it back, or whine like a little bitch until some crooked politician makes the tax payers pay it back.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Jill is obsessed with DESTINY that's a renpy visual novel mechanics to branch a game. That's how it is working, you choose one girl and another path is closing.

I know the actual reasoning behind it, but just change the scenario to something else. Something that would realistically warrant Jill reevaluating MC and coming to the conclusion that he isn't The One.
Maybe if Jill were the one who was sick, but MC chose to have a picnic with Sage instead, that'd be more understandable.

 

[DavDR]

You are right that it doesn't make any sense but to measure the behavior of the characters we are forced to believe it.

The "loan" money is completely handled by Patrick who can decide whether to give it to the college or not, but still it would be up to Maya to pay it back, while Patrick can decide whether to support her or not.

It doesn't make sense, but that's what it is. And evidently to the ears of the inhabitants of the badik universe it sounds strange but not completely unbelievable .

Yes, it's the central flaw of this entire game. We should add BaDIK incredulity to the table of elements. It's the strongest and most flexible substance in the universe.

 

[ffive]

Then you work hard and pay it back, or whine like a little bitch until some crooked politician makes the tax payers pay it back.

Hilarious sentiment on a forum where people whine like little bitches about games they get for free.

 

[[Son Goku]]

It's very sad to know that this great game won't have the "completed" label for literally 10 years, by the time the game is over we'll all be old

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I know the actual reasoning behind it, but just change the scenario to something else. Something that would realistically warrant Jill reevaluating MC and coming to the conclusion that he isn't The One.
Maybe if Jill were the one who was sick, but MC chose to have a picnic with Sage instead, that'd be more understandable.

Or give a more understandable explanation why Jill refused him. Let's say we add a scene with dialogue between MC/Jill where she reproaches him that “I prepared a surprise for you, I tried to make it pleasant, but you refused. Go to your friend now” On the other hand, people have written entire essays about why it works with Jill, and it's fun to read.

 

[N1CKs001]

My top three paths in no particular order are Jill (Beautifully romantic), Isabella(The mature beauty), and Sage(The growing relationship). Got it be the best romance path of the game I'd say Isabella is a bit ahead but a case can be made for any of three in terms of story and growth for the MC

 

[DavDR]

Hilarious sentiment on a forum where people whine like little bitches about games they get for free.

Rather you pay for it or not is irrelevant to the quality of a game, or anyone's opinion of it. If you just can't stand someone criticizing your precious game then use the ignore option you are given in this forum.

 

[ffive]

Rather you pay for it or not is irrelevant to the quality of a game, or anyone's opinion of it. If you just can't stand someone criticizing your precious game then use the ignore option you are given in this forum.

I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of whining how Maya should have more integrity than the very people who criticize her. You can apply your own advice.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Or give a more understandable explanation why Jill refused him. Let's say we add a scene with dialogue between MC/Jill where she reproaches him that “I prepared a surprise for you, I tried to make it pleasant, but you refused. Go to your friend now” On the other hand, people have written entire essays about why it works with Jill, and it's fun to read.

It would come off as rather selfish to tell him that, especially when MC does in fact tell Jill that the reason he can't go is that he's taking care of a sick friend. "I wanted to do something nice for you, but you're busy nursing your sick (girl)friend, so forget it."

Since the picnic is where MC tells Jill that he's falling for her, it'd be more appropriate for that to be the missing ingredient in making the Jill path work instead of not going on the picnic at all. Like maybe if MC were to meet up with Jill after helping Sage at say, a bowling alley to have fun, they'd still have a nice time together. But it would not be conducive to the circumstances of saying he's falling for her, even if she still told him about Tybalt's scheme. The romantic atmosphere just isn't there.

 

[DavDR]

I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of whining how Maya should have more integrity than the very people who criticize her. You can apply your own advice.

OK, if you won't use the ignore option, I will

 

[ChipLecsap]

The problem with Maya is that she won't confront her own problems, but looks to unlikely hopes and the intervention of others. In fact there's a vastly simple solution to her problem. Drop out of college. Then she could get a job, start paying back any money she owes, then return to college in a year with a real government loan.

It is way more easier to be honest. Just pretend to not date with Josy , meet her in secret, do not share a room with her when she know her father has a key to her room, and focus on study, that is all. Just keep lying for 3 year.

it's really not that hard, time fly , just look how 5 years went like nothing since the game started to be developed.

 

[MiltonPowers]

It is way more easier to be honest. Just pretend to not date with Josy , meet her in secret, do not share a room with her when she know her father has a key to her room, and focus on study, that is all. Just keep lying for 3 year.

it's really not that hard, time fly , just look how 5 years went like nothing since the game started to be developed.

That's actually the thing that bothers me more than the loan plot hole. It would be pretty easy to just keep it secret. Derek's got her back, so no whispers there. Don't share a room, and never meet in Maya's room. No PDA, keep it to Josy's room. Depending on Josy's Roommate, they may even be able to spend every night together. Tremolo will help cover whether he's on their path or not. Finish study and move on with your life.

 

[znar25]

I don't think Riona is a prostitute. She just had sex for money a few times.

Would be great if on the Rio path, that comment was MCs opinion in the Rio bio!

 

[ChipLecsap]

That's actually the thing that bothers me more than the loan plot hole. It would be pretty easy to just keep it secret. Derek's got her back, so no whispers there. Don't share a room, and never meet in Maya's room. No PDA, keep it to Josy's room. Depending on Josy's Roommate, they may even be able to spend every night together. Tremolo will help cover whether he's on their path or not. Finish study and move on with your life.

and it is even more easily if MC is on their path, Maya can easily say, that : Well, Josy is now dating with MC, if somehow her dad might see. a picture of them hanging out together or something .