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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Ray_D said:
I don't really care anymore, people have to let it go, DPC will keep making the chapters bigger because he can and because 13,551 people are willing to pay him.:HideThePain:
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As long as Zoey's the only one I'm ok with it, but I don't want another interlude where any more of her smurfy friends turn up.

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jd8097619 said:
And when they spend three months on something they then make rather unessential, it does seem like they've undercut their own vision for odd reasons.
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Not so important? Sorry that DPC forgot to consult with you when writing the script, you're probably an experienced writer and know how to do it better.
You don't see that she is one of the central challenges of Season 3, with the purpose to test MCs new relationships - I'm absolutely sure that there is a possibility of breaking up and reuniting with Zoey in the next episodes.
This is a typical drama with a new female character in the middle of the game who is an ex/childhood friend. The problem is that it doesn't work well in AVNs because of: simps. They see the new LI as a threat to their relationship with their pixel waifu and antagonize her. Even if it's well written and the character is interesting, which DPC did well - Zoey is only alt-girl and tomboy in the game.

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I don't really care anymore, people have to let it go, DPC will keep making the chapters bigger because he can and because 13,551 people are willing to pay him.:HideThePain:
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I'm not sure I will stay after Episode 12 :HideThePain:
 
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I’m curious as to which path everyone is going to go for first? I’m thinking about Quinn’s path first but I’m not sure it’s going to go anywhere. Hmm. :cautious::giggle: Btw, this thread has felt a lot more… sedate the last few days. Excitement waning? Adrenaline high run out? Did the mini thread purges knock the wind out of some you? What has happened? :rolleyes:
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First five will be Sage, Throuple, Lily, Bella and Zoey (Monk run)
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Not so important? Sorry that DPC forgot to consult with you when writing the script, you're probably an experienced writer and know how to do it better.
You don't see that she is one of the central challenges of Season 3, with the purpose to test MCs new relationships - I'm absolutely sure that there is a possibility of breaking up and reuniting with Zoey in the next episodes.
This is a typical drama with a new female character in the middle of the game who is an ex/childhood friend. The problem is that it doesn't work well in AVNs because of: simps. They see the new LI as a threat to their relationship with their pixel waifu and antagonize her. Even if it's well written and the character is interesting, which DPC did well - Zoey is only alt-girl and tomboy in the game.
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Right, but that's not my issue with the Interlude. Zoey can fill that role (as many of the characters could do) without the existence of an Interlude that supposedly exists to allow you to flesh her out in different ways to have notably different versions of her except it just chucks in the towel and goes "DIK or CHICK" which aren't exactly that different in any case.

If Zoey is going to become this more important character that offers a new path, I'd rather that development time have been spent on having interesting interactions with her as fuckface when so far she's basically superfluous in both episodes she's appeared in to a surprising degree given, again, she was meant to be important enough to have her own personal sub-episode.
 
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Right, but that's not my issue with the Interlude. Zoey can fill that role (as many of the characters could do) without the existence of an Interlude that supposedly exists to allow you to flesh her out in different ways to have notably different versions of her except it just chucks in the towel and goes "DIK or CHICK" which aren't exactly that different in any case.
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Differences in dialogues and behavior. DIK Zoey beats the firefigher who harassed her and is neutral if you beat Oscar. Chick is softer, doesn't prefer to use force and will judge you for it. It is too early to talk about a global difference, because her arc is far from over.

If Zoey is going to become this more important character that offers a new path, I'd rather that development time have been spent on having interesting interactions with her as fuckface when so far she's basically superfluous in both episodes she's appeared in to a surprising degree given, again, she was meant to be important enough to have her own personal sub-episode.
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This.
This was supposed to be in Interlude, DPC weirdly cut it, focused on California. Here I can agree.
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Differences in dialogues and behavior. DIK Zoey beats the firefigher who harassed her and is neutral if you beat Oscar. Chick is softer, doesn't prefer to use force and will judge you for it. It is too early to talk about a global difference, because her arc is far from over.


This.
This was supposed to be in Interlude, DPC weirdly cut it, focused on California. Here I can agree.
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Do you see where I'm coming from now though. It's not "I hate Zoey", it's that it's frustrating in how all that time was put on an Interlude that even in the code is so cut off and unrelated to the main game that it really struggles to justify itself, while episodes 9 and 10 have then not helped by failing to give her any real focus in the main game. The examples you mentions are so minor that they're the sort of things I'd expect to be set by the Episode 3 flashback having had a toggle choice between setting her as DIK or CHICK as fuckface remembers her, not a separate release that took months to put together.

So far there's a reason why on every playthrough I've just pushed her towards Jacob regardless of having an LI or not, because her interactions with fuckface so far are so shallow and background that it just puts her on the same level as a Heather or Mel as far as I can see.
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Differences in dialogues and behavior. DIK Zoey beats the firefigher who harassed her and is neutral if you beat Oscar. Chick is softer, doesn't prefer to use force and will judge you for it. It is too early to talk about a global difference, because her arc is far from over.
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I thought DPC missed a chance for DIK MC with the Oscar thing.

I would have liked a chance to hit Zoey while the MC blood was already boiling.

Something like 'you don't know me anymore' would have been nice.

EDIT: I meant hit her with a zinger/comeback. Not physically punch her.



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Geralt From Rivia said:
The year is 2025, and Interlude is still a subject of heated debate. Of course, spending 3 months to introduce a new important character from the MCs past, who will affect the future history is a terrible disaster on the background of global 10-15 years of development. 1.5-2% of the general time development.
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We had to look at those ugly, rat faced, diseased ridden, hepatitis crack heads.
 
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jd8097619 said:
Do you see where I'm coming from now though. It's not "I hate Zoey", it's that it's frustrating in how all that time was put on an Interlude that even in the code is so cut off and unrelated to the main game that it really struggles to justify itself, while episodes 9 and 10 have then not helped by failing to give her any real focus in the main game. The examples you mentions are so minor that they're the sort of things I'd expect to be set by the Episode 3 flashback having had a toggle choice between setting her as DIK or CHICK as fuckface remembers her, not a separate release that took months to put together.

So far there's a reason why on every playthrough I've just pushed her towards Jacob regardless of having an LI or not, because her interactions with fuckface so far are so shallow and background that it just puts her on the same level as a Heather or Mel as far as I can see.
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It could have been done better, but Interlude served its primary purpose in introducing Zoey. A 7/10, but it served its purpose. I think we should move on, not chew over "Interlude this, Interlude that" three years later.
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I thought DPC missed a chance for DIK MC with the Oscar thing.

I would have liked a chance to hit Zoey while the MC blood was already boiling.

Something like 'you don't know me anymore' would have been nice.



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Hell was created for you :mad:
Seriously though, I wouldn't want to play as a sociopath who beats people for no reason.
 
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