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I don't think that police raid will go down the way Quinn thinks it's going to go down, and they'll definitely know who snitched on them. That's where she'll have basically nowhere to turn to but the MC despite being adamant she can handle it alone, she has no allies in this. Especially as Rio still can a be a target for them to get to Quinn.
Turning to MC? That only depends on the paths, no way she will ask from a Jill route boy scout MC.

Maybe it will be Tommy in paths other than Quinn.
 

Macky009

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It's still pretty ironic that Jill doesn't want a DIK MC and Bella in general doesn't like DIK actions, but they are the only way (currently) to go the furthest with Bianca, a pretty DIK move.
Yeah, at the very least Jill must be in a neutral path which took me a few tries before I achieve it without resulting in using mods.
 
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Turning to MC? That only depends on the paths, no way she will ask from a Jill route boy scout MC.
I mean that is obvious. On other routes she may figure something else out, but I doubt the whole thing will be resolved just like that at the end of EP11. Would be too easy.
 
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With the BBQ scene for the elder DIKS did anyone else feel that Jacob shouldn't of even entertained the idea of getting with Zoey let alone asking the MC if he would be ok with it , now I know it's likely been done to stir the pot and make you consider getting back with Zoey which is fine I just don't think it should of been a DIK that had interest in her
 

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I mean that is obvious. On other routes she may figure something else out, but I doubt the whole thing will be resolved just like that at the end of EP11. Would be too easy.
Yeah she didn't just ask MC if he can fight for no reason. There is gonna be some sort of brawl for sure.
 

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Bella vs Nora
And the potential monogamous/main Other's route.

I bring this up as it seems DPC is going into a main path within Others, leading to monogamy (Lily, Quinn, Nicole, Riona, and now Zoey. Actually, I deem Zoey the Destroyer of Others, as that's a pretty big event in Episode 11. I highly doubt she'll let you sleep around, which makes Others an odd choice to end with Zoey). (Maybe DPC has some kind of ending message regarding being a bachelor/manhore growing up?)

So, I thought I'd pick two very similar characters and their respective qualities to contemplate if main pathing/monogamy on Others is even going to be a thing. Also, for fun.

We don't need to go into sizes, outside of admitting they're the most seductive of the lot. They're both an Italian brunette and blonde Scandinavian goddesses in their own right. Bella has more content, but Nora isn't limited in quality.

1. General scenario.
a. Nora knows what she wants. Gets it. Realizes she is breaking the rules or could get fired, so she calls it off. But is still into the MC, at least from a professional angle. This doesn't prove anything personal in the future; however, she stated the bathroom fling was one time only, which was false, so she clearly has other intentions.
Result: Nora wants a husband, and still thinks of the MC. Nora eliminates the fear of getting caught, like an adult, but still allows for feelings.
b. Bella is essentially widowed but still married. Emotionally shattered, suffering, and needs comfort. Was trying to hook Jill up with the MC, screws up, and gets some lustful emotions rekindled. Was even going to break it off with MC if Jill wanted. The idea of a family has barely even been brought up with any of the main girls (except Sage just asking about the MC's future, and Maya). Found out it's against school policy to date students, scared to bring it up with MC, but does so later, and is still interested.
Result: Bella needs to feel alive, and sees the MC as "air" needed to breathe. There's the constant fear of getting caught, and won't stop it, because she needs him.

2. Personality.
a. Nora actually has emotions, smiles, laughs, etc. She seems mature, healthy, and intelligent on her behaviour with the MC. Not too much interaction to get a good profile. But she will try "anything once."
Result: Well adapted and healthy.
b. Bella stares like a deer at everything. I...think she can smile...? But is always angry, sad, or stoic. Her wild side can come out after lots of drinking, but still have a face like an angry mannequin. She has feelings toward the MC, but can't express them well.
Result: Shattered and scared. Yeah yeah, conflict in storytelling, we get it. CAN she smile?

3. Vision.
a. Nora needs glasses.
b. Bella uses fake lenses so people see her as something else (librarian? But she is?)
Result: Bella, what are you doing?

4. Exercise.
a. Nora benches 250 pounds. She exercises the way the MC does with weights, which he enjoys. He also enjoys "spotting" her, as does she.
b. Bella does yoga, that the MC isn't into, aside from being able to look at other women. Kind of the opposite of Nora.
Result: Farcical mating ceremonies, and Bella walked into that one. She's trying, folks.

5. Vocation and interests.
a. Nora is a "teacher" for Applied Chemistry. She enjoys working out, cooking, and sketching/painting.
b. Bella is a teacher of English and a Librarian. She enjoys working out, cooking, dancing, and reading. (We'll disregard her beer pong game play Queen title, as MC can destroy everyone.)
Result: I'd argue the scientist has got both her hemispheres well developed, whereas Bella is in mother mode, minus the family.

6. Age
a. Nora is 32.
b. Bella is 36.
Result: Effectively the same. Though Nora is ready for kids, Bella is having a midlife crisis.

7. Acquisition and path.
a. Nora's path is opened by choosing appropriate choices on Swiper and at the bar, immaterial of DIK/CHICK rating, going Others, and having a hell of a time with Others. Also, choosing her over Nicole for their date at home.
Result: She's the ultimate Other's monogamous choice after experimenting with Others.
b. Bella's path is forced to be CHICK choices, and largely integrated into the main plot, and going ONLY her route. If you even think of getting frisky with another teacher, you're toast.
Result: She's the ultimate CHICK non-polygamous choice after Zoey and potentially Josy. (Also, now that Bianca/Jill is implied, but we'll leave DPC's bad character-assassination potential future events away.)

8. Sexuality.
a. Kinky as hell.
b. Kinky as hell, though initially terrified.
Result: Pretty much the same.

9. Associates.
a. Nora has a super intelligent, jealous, and psychotic cat.
b. Bella (obsessively) has Jill.
Result: Despite sexual tension, I'm going with the Jill as a healthier option. Though Bella's relationship and feelings for Jill to the point of leaving the MC is a bit odd (to say the least).

10. In the story.
a. Only ~4 scenes throughout multiple episodes, currently in a state of platonic teacher/student relations. But you get there through exploration, and get to explore as much as the scenarios for Others provides, minus Nicole. Which feels within the spirit of gaming, and BAD.
b. Every episode, all kinds of drama with her, slightly even after a Jill path. Forced via CHICK path, so you need to be a good boy and ONLY for Bella.

In comparison to the other teachers, Jade uses the MC for sex, and Cathy the same, but is less cold about it (and her arc is too weird and stereotypical to get into).

Conclusion
  • Nora appears to be mentally healthy, physically fit, ready for a serious relationship, and thus a dedicated path. She doesn't hurt the MC in anyway outside of breaking things off to be professional. Her as a teacher aligns with the MC's education of engineering, and they have similar physical exercise routines. They even played a dating question game to figure each other out. There's lots of potential for development.
  • Bella has emotional issues, "has feelings", and is married (and we all know what happens at the end of EP 11+. There's plenty more to say, since there's so much content with her. Which is weird, since there's really not much relationship development going on. (Sage, Josy/Maya can at least get a declaration of love.)

So if DPC can paint an entire story for a "hot for teacher" Bella path with stagnating development (because we're waiting for the obvious and inevitable Episode 12 door reveal), emotional issues, and a Jill obsession, it makes sense the healthier version of a "Bella-lite" on Others path can go exclusive.

With the potential implication of Bella having a throuple/poly relationship with Jill, and with the Other's sleeping around behaviour of the MC, a Nora monogamous path seems at least believable.

The problem becomes how bloated the Others are (exclusive Quinn, Zoey, etc.), and how so many other options for bachelor/poly exist in Others, and it just beggars belief on how long this story will take to end, let alone clean up all the threads. But with Zoey just blowing up destroying the Others path to monogamy, it makes sense such paths with more content and popularity will occur with the ladies in Others. And if Bella is a template for that, then Nora is an easy choice, even without the DIK/CHICK points (or the overprotective Jill relationship. Just put Jill in Riona's costume and go crazy with symbolism :3)

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Yeah, one thing you gotta give DPC credit for is that he succeeded in making each successive party planner more difficult than the last. I couldn't get past 7.25x on the Thanksgiving party with Pink Weib either. Best I saw for Christmas is 6.75x.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

I'm curious since you mentioned seeds, are you just using "Seed 0, Seed 1, Seed 2, etc.." to denote the layouts for your own use or are you aware of a seed value in the code that decides your layout? Is this seed the same for the entire playthrough or for each episode/planner? If it's within each episode, are you aware when in the story it randomizes?
At the start of each Episode (and I mean the very start before even the story recap), a random value between 0-4 is picked for the variable "pp_seed". That determines which Party Planner grid layout you get that Episode.

You can manually change it with URM or something though right up until the planner launches, which is what I've done for testing/guide purposes.

Regarding the Xmas layouts, for the most part I couldn't get past 6.5x or 6.75x either, except on one specific layout where I managed a 7.25x and one other where with Jello Shots I managed a 7.0x. Check the link in my post here if you're interested.
So, I happen to really enjoy the Party Planner mini-game and have spent quite a bit of time trying to find good setups for every possible layout. I might eventually write up a guide at some point, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

In the meantime, since Episode 11 Xmas party planner seems to be the most challenging yet and I've seen quite a few people requesting setups, here's a collection of some that I've found for all the possible random grids in Episode 11. I managed to find at least one 6.5x for every grid, and some grids had options for higher multipliers (up to 7.25x for exactly one grid).



Hopefully some people find these helpful. If anyone knows of any better layouts, I'd love it if you shared it with me!
 
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So as someone who keeps getting this game recommended, what would people say is the main draw? Deep and well-written personalities, long-running and sprawling storylines?
 

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Don't let Milton hear you say that :BootyTime:
But that'd explain why MC needs an hour to recharge after Mel, but only 20 minutes after Sarah :ROFLMAO:
[Dalli x mode activated]
I think it’s clear now that B&R is a clear stand in for Mutant High.
Quinn has the Wolverines jacket so we will see that she is, in fact, Mystique.
Since she decided to keep said jacket, expect to see a confrontation between Weapon x and Raven. (Scnick schnickity!
Tara is Tara, a Weapon X agent from an alternate timeline, she has superhuman strength, thus the drain on MC.
Similarly, Mel is actually Rogue and she is blossoming and just learning her powers, thus the drain on MC.
Burke is clearly Prof x and knows everything that’s happening on campus.
more to be revealed later…
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Chillout1984

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So as someone who keeps getting this game recommended, what would people say is the main draw? Deep and well-written personalities, long-running and sprawling storylines?
Imo it's mostly the good looking models, most characters are interesting and the game overall is pretty funny.
The story isn't that interesting until 25%-50% into the second season.
 

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Turning to MC? That only depends on the paths, no way she will ask from a Jill route boy scout MC.
That's the issue we have really, on some paths Quinn and MC just don't click and he won't be getting called in.

There was a whole speech by Quinn in which she tells him she's in a world she doesn't want him apart of. That was a way to get him out the picture going forward. Esp given that earlier in the episode he did not answer her call, so she's questioning her liability

Not everything in this game will have MC riding in on a white horse to save the day and people need to think in paths with these canon events and sometimes the MC can't be there and overall the result needs to be the same
 

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[Dalli x mode activated]
I think it’s clear now that B&R is a clear stand in for Mutant High.
Quinn has the Wolverines jacket so we will see that she is, in fact, Mystique.
Since she decided to keep said jacket, expect to see a confrontation between Weapon x and Raven. (Scnick schnickity!
Tara is Tara, a Weapon X agent from an alternate timeline, she has superhuman strength, thus the drain on MC.
Similarly, Mel is actually Rogue and she is blossoming and just learning her powers, thus the drain on MC.
Burke is clearly Prof x and knows everything that’s happening on campus.
more to be revealed later…
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That's the issue we have really, on some paths Quinn and MC just don't click and he won't be getting called in.

There was a whole speech by Quinn in which she tells him she's in a world she doesn't want him apart of. That was a way to get him out the picture going forward. Esp given that earlier in the episode he did not answer her call, so she's questioning her liability

Not everything in this game will have MC riding in on a white horse to save the day and people need to think in paths with these canon events and sometimes the MC can't be there and overall the result needs to be the same
It's a good thing he didn't answer, if he was there it's likely he would've gotten fucked up too. Or at least now known to the rest of the gangsters (minus Vinny). It would end with a target on his back best case scenario.
 

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It's a good thing he didn't answer, if he was there it's likely he would've gotten fucked up too. Or at least now known to the rest of the gangsters (minus Vinny). It would end with a target on his back best case scenario.
Pretty much this, where as Quinn might have wanted MCs help and Support in that moment after she's sees what they do to Rio it opens her eyes somewhat...

In most paths quinn has a relationship of some sort with MC, she cares about him too much to put him through that

In the other paths she's not close enough to ask for help

Nah, I think the stage has been set to have quinn do this vendetta thing alone
 
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