VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[BigTTiger]

Bonus point if her actual boyfriend was a restaurant customer

I know not of what you speak of sir I plead the fifth of Jack hehe

 

[grarg]

My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.

Sage is okay with it. She said so on the phone. The whole issue is that she doesn't know or trust Zoey, not that she doesn't trust the MC. And she's done with that. She is resolved. She spoke her feelings. Her investment in MC & anxiety with Zoey is done. Finished. Over.

It doesn't matter what Zoey says or does after that fact. There's no need to tell Sage about every bloody interaction the MC has with women. It's silly.

There's also no indication that Sage gives a flip about Zoey being friends with MC later on. Since Sage trusts the MC, it's a complete non-issue.

That doesn't mean it won't come up ever, but it won't be some horrific revelation like "OMG Zoey confessed? How dare you not tell me! We're done!" Sage and MC have already declared their love, talked about a future together with potential kids, about Sage's real mom, previously met MC's dad, have a new Family together, etc. MC helped her overcome Chad. He's helping her overcome her parents divorce. He helped her find a new Family, and now potential real future family. They are beyond dealing with other suitors and exes.

I think some of you guys don't get romance, harlequin (fantastical), or basic relationship drama. It could be some soap opera style melodrama. But we've seen DPC's writing skills in just basic cliffhangers fizzle into nothing, alongside his many forgotten threads that are bridges to nowhere.

Stating Sage is big on honesty is like, yeah? So why would the MC have to tell her about every detail, about every interaction he has with all females? That's not within his character, nor is it some new raison d'être he needs to start following now that he's serious with Sage.

And we have no idea what DPC is doing with Zoey after we reject her. But for her to be some kind of "Romance Quinn", a love triangle, or the vengeful newly-lost love for MC that will come along again to destroy the MP/MG's...that's just silly.

Zoey had her big moment. And it's gone. Conflict: resolved.

 

[BigTTiger]

And an extra two bonus points if the sexvideo with Jade is leaked. (1 for the sex itself and 1 for the video)

I still have yet to do that ep11 pt I'm saving that one for dead last ugh

 

[grarg]

The huge difference is that all other girls that flirt with him don't have such a deep connection with MC. It's pretty clear MC wants Zoey to be his Best friend/2nd best friend (depending on what you tell Derek) again, and that can create massive complications. MC wouldn't care because he's happy with Sage, but Sage would still care about Zoey's feelings, especially if Zoey will keep on acting on it.

Josy does. Maya does. All the main girls do or can. Shall we tell Sage random stories about them? I'd argue even Riona and Quinn, and some of the Side Girls, too, in their limited way.

If Sage cares, or is that curious, or that anxious...hey, she can ask. We and the MC are not mind readers. And if not, why would MC bring any of this up? It's certainly not in his character to rock the boat because we think that might be a good idea, or Sage likes it when he's honest.

MC: "Hey Sage. Your mom tried to seduce me a few months ago."
Sage: "WTF!?"

Yeah, great idea. Let's just gush about all his encounters with the ladies. I'm sure Sage would like that.

I mean, wouldn't MC love that info about Sage, too?

 

[BigTTiger]

This is the conversation before the major choice:


qu "You're a single guy, right?"
mc "What if I am?"
qu "Yeah, you're a single guy."
qu "Do you get laid a lot?"
"Yes":
mc "Of course. You interested?"
scene ep1_quinn_confront34 with dissolve
qu "Hah. Maybe."
else:
mc "Yes, I do."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "That was a lie."
"No":
mc "No, I don't."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "Really? Not even gonna lie about it?"
"None of your business":
mc "That's really none of your business."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "Ok, that's a no."
qu "And it's kind of my business..."
qu "What if I told you that there was a way for you to {i}have some fun{/i} in a noncommittal way?"
mc "What are you getting at?"
qu "I'm saying that I...erm..."
qu "Let's say you're hungry, but you don't want to cook the food yourself. What would you do?"
mc "Go buy food or order take out."
qu "Ah! Exactly. Take out."
qu "What I'm saying is that you can think of me as a {i}fast-food restaurant{/i}."
qu "Just call me and order some food and I'll get it for you."
qu "My menu, for the time being, consists of {i}Japanese{/i} or {i}Spicy{/i} food."
qu "It costs a bit, but most customers are very satisfied."
qu "Catch my drift?"
mc "I think I do."
qu "So? You want the number to my restaurant or not?"

Anyone with half a brain can figure out what the "food" of the restaurant is.

Hey hey I resemble err I mean resent that remark

 

[Chillout1984]

Josy does. Maya does. All the main girls do or can. Shall we tell Sage random stories about them? I'd argue even Riona and Quinn, and some of the Side Girls, too, in their limited way.

If Sage cares, or is that curious, or that anxious...hey, she can ask. We and the MC are not mind readers. And if not, why would MC bring any of this up? It's certainly not in his character to rock the boat because we think that might be a good idea, or Sage likes it when he's honest.

MC: "Hey Sage. Your mom tried to seduce me a few months ago."
Sage: "WTF!?"

Yeah, great idea. Let's just gush about all his encounters with the ladies. I'm sure Sage would like that.

I mean, wouldn't MC love that info about Sage, too?

Only Josy still kind of acts on it when you're in a relationship with someone else, and Sage also would probably dislike that a lot if she found out.

And no, not every encounter should be told to her, but every encounter that could have an impact does (like the Jade, Zoey or Josy situation).

 

[BigTTiger]

Talking about Madame Rose, I'm still curious who this guy could be:

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Maybe her husband or a client?

 

[DarkLords00]

Anyways the MC has to tell sage what happens because one, they are in a relationship and two its something that sage needs to know whats up. Remember she says that she doesn't trust zoey intentions and she is right about that.

Ok, let's for the sake of argument say that MC decides to tell her that. What are the possible outcomes of that discussion?

1- Sage tells MC I told you so and that's that. She thanks him for being honest and nothing else happens, putting the problem to rest.

2- Sage gets mad and SUPER jealous know. She gets even more insecure about her whole relationship with MC and drama ensues.

3- Sage blows a fucking gasket and makes an ultimatum to MC to stop seein Zoey once and for all. MC may or may not comply probably damaging the relationship beyond repair.

Why would MC need to tell her when the best outcome won't change absolutely nothing for them as a couple? There is no upside on hurting her with that info.

I can't believe that it needs to be said that this is a complete different matter than the Jade issue or even the restaurant issue. Zoey's confession to MC was a private matter between them and if he rejects her it's up to them if it should stay between them and MC and his partner gains absolutely nothing and stands to lose more (the same goes for every MG path, not just Sage) if they just put the matter to rest. Remember that Zoey confessed due to Brent egged her to do so because it was better than thinking about "what could've been" and there is no way thah unless one of them speak about it someone will find out so it's not a "ticking bomb" topic like Jade or the restaurant stuff.

The only way of Sage(or any main girl) finding out would be for Zoey to tell about it which why the hell would she do that? She stands to lose more than just her friendship with MC if she went ahead and did that.

 

[Chillout1984]

Maybe her husband or a client?

I doubt it's a client, considering she hides her face when she sees MC if you accepted her. That gives me the feeling that she keeps het work solely at the Pink Rose.

My guess is indeed either husband or business partner. Then again, he seems to be smaller than Madame and although not unheard of, it's pretty uncommon for the guy to be the shorter one in a relationship.

 

[grarg]

Only Josy still kind of acts on it when you're in a relationship with someone else, and Sage also would probably dislike that a lot if she found out.

And no, not every encounter should be told to her, but every encounter that could have an impact does (like the Jade, Zoey or Josy situation).

Too bad. Not the MC's fault.

You don't know what could have an impact on her.

If she is so inclined, so anxious, so unsure about her confidence in the MC (even though she trusts and loves him), it's up for the narrative to express her issues. Not your subjective interpretation of her character.

 

[Chillout1984]

Ok, let's for the sake of argument say that MC decides to tell her that. What are the possible outcomes of that discussion?

1- Sage tells MC I told you so and that's that. She thanks him for being honest and nothing else happens, putting the problem to rest.

2- Sage gets mad and SUPER jealous know. She gets even more insecure about her whole relationship with MC and drama ensues.

3- Sage blows a fucking gasket and makes an ultimatum to MC to stop seein Zoey once and for all. MC may or may not comply probably damaging the relationship beyond repair.

Why would MC need to tell her when the best outcome won't change absolutely nothing for them as a couple? There is no upside on hurting her with that info.

I can't believe that it needs to be said that this is a complete different matter than the Jade issue or even the restaurant issue. Zoey's confession to MC was a private matter between them and if he rejects her it's up to them if it should stay between them and MC and his partner gains absolutely nothing and stands to lose more (the same goes for every MG path, not just Sage) if they just put the matter to rest. Remember that Zoey confessed due to Brent egged her to do so because it was better than thinking about "what could've been" and there is no way thah unless one of them speak about it someone will find out so it's not a "ticking bomb" topic like Jade or the restaurant stuff.

The only way of Sage(or any main girl) finding out would be for Zoey to tell about it which why the hell would she do that? She stands to lose more than just her friendship with MC if she went ahead and did that.

You can be pretty sure it will gnaw on MC's conscience as well knowing that Zoey is in love with him while being in a relationship with Sage.

 

[BigTTiger]

I doubt it's a client, considering she hides her face when she sees MC if you accepted her. That gives me the feeling that she keeps het work solely at the Pink Rose.

My guess is indeed either husband or business partner. Then again, he seems to be smaller than Madame and although not unheard of, it's pretty uncommon for the guy to be the shorter one in a relationship.

Maybe Madame likes em shorter that way it gives her that thrill of power over someone shorter than her and since she hides herself from MC then why didn't she mention that the next time that MC visits her I mean she could've said Hey thanks for not outing me in public or some shit.

 

[Chillout1984]

Maybe Madame likes em shorter that way it gives her that thrill of power over someone shorter than her and since she hides herself from MC then why didn't she mention that the next time that MC visits her I mean she could've said Hey thanks for not outing me in public or some shit.

MC doesn't seem to be that good with faces when a mask covers it (even just a little) and he rarely speaks to them. Cinderella is proof of that, considering he didn't seem to immediately recognize her from science class until the table scene.

Chances are quite likely he didn't even recognize Madame Rose without her mask, if he saw her walging past at all.

 

[grarg]

You can be pretty sure it will gnaw on MC's conscience as well knowing that Zoey is in love with him while being in a relationship with Sage.

He has a problem telling Sage he loves her if he slept with Jade. That "gnaws" on the MC's conscience.
He has no problem telling Sage he loves her if he only rejects Zoey regardless of what degree of rejection (auto or choice.) Therefore, no, Zoey does not gnaw on MC's conscience. And why would it?

He even says it to the narrative in his room/window that Zoey is in his past (or words to that effect).

 

[dontehall2023]

We do know however that Tremolo wants (when it comes to Sage) to keep his secrets despite it gnawing on his conscience. Imo it's best to just rip the band-aid off while the relationship is still fresh and the secret is recent, rather than hoping it will never come out (and trust me, sooner or later almost every secret will somehow come out).

Tremolo has a spotty conscience. Jade having familial ties to Sage is a problem for him. Even though he didn't know during their interactions. The restaurant is not a problem for him. He knew Quinn was the VP of the HOTs & if you partake, he knew all of the girls were HOTs. We'll find out in the next episode which side Zoey's confession falls under (problem or no problem).

If Tremolo never texted Zoey stating his desire to remain friends, I would be on the side of telling Sage about it. But because I do not know which is more irreplaceable for him at the moment, his love for Sage or his friendship with Zoey. I believe patience is the key here.

If Zoey decides she doesn't want to continue being friends with Tremolo, telling Sage a couple days later won't affect his relationship with Sage much. And if Zoey wants to continue to be friends with Tremolo, then the three of them can sit down & come up with a understanding that works for them.

 

[BigTTiger]

Oh, back to the Jade Stephen divorce debacle in the scene with Jade and Cathy in the bar chatting Jade tells Cathy if there was some way to find out about Stephen cheating, I'd take him to the cleaners, or some shit and she gives Cathy a somewhat wicked smile so if you're not on a Jade route she might get Cathy to help her set up Stephen or if you're on the Jade route maybe MC helps out in some way I still say that the picture that Tybalt got has something to do with Stephen because he gets the pic regardless of route you're on so the only constant would be Stephen being recorded fucking one of the restaurant girls in the prep mansion or Tybalt getting in some fruit time.

 

[dontehall2023]

Ok, let's for the sake of argument say that MC decides to tell her that. What are the possible outcomes of that discussion?

1- Sage tells MC I told you so and that's that. She thanks him for being honest and nothing else happens, putting the problem to rest.

2- Sage gets mad and SUPER jealous know. She gets even more insecure about her whole relationship with MC and drama ensues.

3- Sage blows a fucking gasket and makes an ultimatum to MC to stop seein Zoey once and for all. MC may or may not comply probably damaging the relationship beyond repair.

Why would MC need to tell her when the best outcome won't change absolutely nothing for them as a couple? There is no upside on hurting her with that info.

I can't believe that it needs to be said that this is a complete different matter than the Jade issue or even the restaurant issue. Zoey's confession to MC was a private matter between them and if he rejects her it's up to them if it should stay between them and MC and his partner gains absolutely nothing and stands to lose more (the same goes for every MG path, not just Sage) if they just put the matter to rest. Remember that Zoey confessed due to Brent egged her to do so because it was better than thinking about "what could've been" and there is no way thah unless one of them speak about it someone will find out so it's not a "ticking bomb" topic like Jade or the restaurant stuff.

The only way of Sage(or any main girl) finding out would be for Zoey to tell about it which why the hell would she do that? She stands to lose more than just her friendship with MC if she went ahead and did that.

 

[FalconLover420]

Ok, let's for the sake of argument say that MC decides to tell her that. What are the possible outcomes of that discussion?

1- Sage tells MC I told you so and that's that. She thanks him for being honest and nothing else happens, putting the problem to rest.

2- Sage gets mad and SUPER jealous know. She gets even more insecure about her whole relationship with MC and drama ensues.

3- Sage blows a fucking gasket and makes an ultimatum to MC to stop seein Zoey once and for all. MC may or may not comply probably damaging the relationship beyond repair.

Why would MC need to tell her when the best outcome won't change absolutely nothing for them as a couple? There is no upside on hurting her with that info.

I can't believe that it needs to be said that this is a complete different matter than the Jade issue or even the restaurant issue. Zoey's confession to MC was a private matter between them and if he rejects her it's up to them if it should stay between them and MC and his partner gains absolutely nothing and stands to lose more (the same goes for every MG path, not just Sage) if they just put the matter to rest. Remember that Zoey confessed due to Brent egged her to do so because it was better than thinking about "what could've been" and there is no way thah unless one of them speak about it someone will find out so it's not a "ticking bomb" topic like Jade or the restaurant stuff.

The only way of Sage(or any main girl) finding out would be for Zoey to tell about it which why the hell would she do that? She stands to lose more than just her friendship with MC if she went ahead and did that.

Its the same fucking thing with tremolo telling the DIKS he got a blowjob DESPITE knowing Tommy is going to get pissed about it and JB telling him to stfu about it. Its due to the MC being fucking stupid and how DPC wants him to act. This is the same person who thought he was a rebound despite getting closer to sage and being friends with benefits.

This isn't about you or me saying that it won't be a smart idea, but something the MC would due or blurt out. If you played with Jade and Sage, he is on the verge of wanting to tell her that he fucked her mom. Even Derek tell him, you can do one or three things, either stfu and live with it, tell her and rip the band aid off or break up with her and never see her again.

Again Sage doesn't expect every detail, but she wants honesty on someone she doesn't trust aka Zoey and to a lesser extent Lily if you are playing on the Lily queen path.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Zoey is his past

Sage is his future
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Looks like Sage path is the actual DESTINY

 

[Chillout1984]

Tremolo has a spotty conscience. Jade having familial ties to Sage is a problem for him. Even though he didn't know during their interactions. The restaurant is not a problem for him. He knew Quinn was the VP of the HOTs & if you partake, he knew all of the girls were HOTs. We'll find out in the next episode which side Zoey's confession falls under (problem or no problem).

If Tremolo never texted Zoey stating his desire to remain friends, I would be on the side of telling Sage about it. But because I do not know which is more irreplaceable for him at the moment, his love for Sage or his friendship with Zoey. I believe patience is the key here.

If Zoey decides she doesn't want to continue being friends with Tremolo, telling Sage a couple days later won't affect his relationship with Sage much. And if Zoey wants to continue to be friends with Tremolo, then the three of them can sit down & come up with a understanding that works for them.

Let's agree to disagree. My experience in relationships is that, no matter how small, these kinds of secrets aren't healthy in the beginning of a relationship. Women want to know if they have competition that act on their feelings so they can "deal with it", even if the guy isn't interested.

We will see how DPC will deal with this situation.