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I remember people thought she might be behind the camera, since a lollipop was left behind in Derek's room on Halloween.
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I’m going to get a picture of that elusive lollipop someday… I just can’t remember if it was before or after Quinn flipped Maya off (she has her lollipop then). I forget to look up on the shelf when studying at Maya’s desk. Oh well, shrugs…
 

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To give DPC some credit here, he is not a native american. He is swedish. Many swedish people are speaking very very good english, they learn it in school VERY early (basically starting in kindergarten) and english is basically there second "mothertongue" But its different in terms of how they use english like they do in the US, especially in more or less "lowlife" neighborhoods. English in Harmlem (or like someone mentioned Bronx) is something totally different like using English in Stockholm.

Movies and books can get you only "that far" to get it right how people in the US are talking to each other if they are coming from different lifestyles.

Iam german and i sometimes notice too that its not really fitting how character sin being a dik are expressing themselfs. But i couldnt do better. and certainly no one other on F95 can either. I dont know a single DEV around here who is from the US, most are more like east-europe and you can read that... "engrish" is mostly common :D

DPCs english is VERY good, and he really trys to be as close as he can to write as he thinks people at that age expess themselfs. And he is very close i think.

Even in most US-movies i think all the time to myself "come on, no-one in the age between 18-22 talks like that" (and though iam german, most of the times i watch movies in OV)

I think its just as simple as this: to talk by yourself is VERY different if you try to WRITE how people talk. Most people couldnt even write how they used to talk by themselfs.

My written language (in german) is VERY different to the way i talk... so its really difficult to get it very realstic all the time for many different chracters.

Mostly DPC gets it done very good in this game... sometimes not. And yeah the "serious talk" with Quinn (only on her path) was a bit off, serious and sad or not... she wouldnt use words like she did there in some places. But... meh... it didnt really bother me.
I do beta testing for quite a few AVNs and that is one of the things I am always looking for. While the words are correct and have the right meaning, but it is not how people would actually say it if they were talking.
 
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To give DPC some credit here, he is not a native american. He is swedish. Many swedish people are speaking very very good english, they learn it in school VERY early (basically starting in kindergarten) and english is basically there second "mothertongue" But its different in terms of how they use english like they do in the US, especially in more or less "lowlife" neighborhoods. English in Harmlem (or like someone mentioned Bronx) is something totally different like using English in Stockholm.

Movies and books can get you only "that far" to get it right how people in the US are talking to each other if they are coming from different lifestyles.

Iam german and i sometimes notice too that its not really fitting how character sin being a dik are expressing themselfs. But i couldnt do better. and certainly no one other on F95 can either. I dont know a single DEV around here who is from the US, most are more like east-europe and you can read that... "engrish" is mostly common :D

DPCs english is VERY good, and he really trys to be as close as he can to write as he thinks people at that age expess themselfs. And he is very close i think.

Even in most US-movies i think all the time to myself "come on, no-one in the age between 18-22 talks like that" (and though iam german, most of the times i watch movies in OV)

I think its just as simple as this: to talk by yourself is VERY different if you try to WRITE how people talk. Most people couldnt even write how they used to talk by themselfs.

My written language (in german) is VERY different to the way i talk... so its really difficult to get it very realstic all the time for many different chracters.

Mostly DPC gets it done very good in this game... sometimes not. And yeah the "serious talk" with Quinn (only on her path) was a bit off, serious and sad or not... she wouldnt use words like she did there in some places. But... meh... it didnt really bother me.
Oh no, credit where credit is due, DPC is very good at the dialogue. A lot of it is very natural, definitely no "Engrish". It's just nitpicking at this point. I remember praising his art but mentioning the chrome teeth as a "stain on a masterpiece" or something like that, and subsequently got attacked for the teeth remark :HideThePain:
 

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I’m going to get a picture of that elusive lollipop someday… I just can’t remember if it was before or after Quinn flipped Maya off (she has her lollipop then). I forget to look up on the shelf when studying at Maya’s desk. Oh well, shrugs…
Quinn's lolli is red, that's the color of the one Lily had in her intro scene. ;)
 
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Intelligence doesn't apply equally to all things, and the lack of a proper education limits the benefits of good education. She was trained from childhood to think strategically and mastering social dominance. That's why she excelled in those areas. Without a good education, she never learned critical thinking, and how to introspect better to find flaws in her reasoning.

It's like Rio, who is no dummy, and is really sweet and caring. Her background limits her, along with Quinn's gaslighting, makes her have no confidence whatsoever in herself, despite doing well at college.

Quinn gets lots of shit, and justifiable so, but without the restaurant, neither she nor Rio would be able to afford college.
Quinn isn't exactly a master at manipulation though, she overestimated Mona and pushed Maya too far, and they both blew up in her face. That isn't to say she isn't good at working people, like my poor Rio, but "intelligent" has a certain connotation that I feel doesn't apply well to Quinn.
I doubt she even read those, every plan she has made has failed spectacularly. She is what we consider as street smarts.
Yeah street smart is a good way to put it.
 
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That’s right! I forgot that one. They were all standing watching. :);) I need to play another full, slower playthrough sometime and enjoy the journey.
I don't believe we see who are in the room, but we know Maya didn't tase him. Who did though,no idea. We also know Maya wanted to hush it that he lived temporarily in Maya's dorm, looking at the reactions on Rooster.
 
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Intelligence doesn't apply equally to all things, and the lack of a proper education limits the benefits of good education. She was trained from childhood to think strategically and mastering social dominance. That's why she excelled in those areas. Without a good education, she never learned critical thinking, and how to introspect better to find flaws in her reasoning.

It's like Rio, who is no dummy, and is really sweet and caring. Her background limits her, along with Quinn's gaslighting, makes her have no confidence whatsoever in herself, despite doing well at college.

Quinn gets lots of shit, and justifiable so, but without the restaurant, neither she nor Rio would be able to afford college.
Rio is absolutely dumb though, it's stated multiple times that she has no idea what she's doing in classes and she wants to leave because of it
 

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Quinn isn't exactly a master at manipulation though, she overestimated Mona and pushed Maya too far, and they both blew up in her face. That isn't to say she isn't good at working people, like my poor Rio, but "intelligent" has a certain connotation that I feel doesn't apply well to Quinn.

Yeah street smart is a good way to put it.
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Quinn isn't exactly a master at manipulation though, she overestimated Mona and pushed Maya too far, and they both blew up in her face. That isn't to say she isn't good at working people, like my poor Rio, but "intelligent" has a certain connotation that I feel doesn't apply well to Quinn.

Yeah street smart is a good way to put it.
As far as a teenager running a college bordello & drug ring? Yeah, she's pretty good at manipulation. It only takes a couple of fuckups to go really wrong, though.

The whole misjudging Maya thing made sense though, because she was so desperate to get into the HOTs, and was willing to ride Tremolo for the hazing. That was pretty extreme. Only Tremolo knows her secret at that point, and how inexperienced she is. To Quinn, she was willing to go beyond what the other pledges would. Her desperation came off as willingness, which made her a good candidate. Before Lilly, there were no Blondes on the menu, so there was that added incentive, too. Maya also has a rockin hot body (despite the skin texture issues).

As far as Mona goes, she was willing to do anything with the other students (as we know from our threesome in the bathroom). Cammy was level-headed enough, and goal oriented enough, to do what needed doing, but Mona was just a party girl that couldn't do it with an older guy. No way of knowing that until it happened. Quinn handled the fallout extremely badly, though, and I think that's just panic.

Her fear of looking weak also was a big problem, and her inability to apologize to Tommy showed that. It worked out in the end.

Maya is also not really a prude, just inexperienced and traumatized by her father. She gets pretty wild pretty quickly when she's not a nervous wreck.
 

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As far as a teenager running a college bordello & drug ring? Yeah, she's pretty good at manipulation. It only takes a couple of fuckups to go really wrong, though.

The whole misjudging Maya thing made sense though, because she was so desperate to get into the HOTs, and was willing to ride Tremolo for the hazing. That was pretty extreme. Only Tremolo knows her secret at that point, and how inexperienced she is. To Quinn, she was willing to go beyond what the other pledges would. Her desperation came off as willingness, which made her a good candidate. Before Lilly, there were no Blondes on the menu, so there was that added incentive, too. Maya also has a rockin hot body (despite the skin texture issues).

As far as Mona goes, she was willing to do anything with the other students (as we know from our threesome in the bathroom). Cammy was level-headed enough, and goal oriented enough, to do what needed doing, but Mona was just a party girl that couldn't do it with an older guy. No way of knowing that until it happened. Quinn handled the fallout extremely badly, though, and I think that's just panic.

Her fear of looking weak also was a big problem, and her inability to apologize to Tommy showed that. It worked out in the end.

Maya is also not really a prude, just inexperienced and traumatized by her father. She gets pretty wild pretty quickly when she's not a nervous wreck.
But with Maya, she does come off as a prude, that's why Quinn needed the video evidence of her finishing the sexual tasks: for blackmail.

Okay well... maybe not blackmail, but just to confirm they didn't cheat.... but I'm leaning towards blackmail. Because it isn't a guarantee that finishing Hell Week means she's ready to suck dick on a regular basis through a gloryhole. So some added "incentive" to ensure cooperation would be very useful.
 

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Rio is absolutely dumb though, it's stated multiple times that she has no idea what she's doing in classes and she wants to leave because of it
Are you even playing the game, or reading my post for that matter? She is doing well in classes, as Cammy got her to admit, and that's while partying, whoring around, and smoking a lot of weed. She just thinks she's dumb because that is what she probably heard all her life, and what Quinn keeps telling her.
 

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Like the only ones that I can consider truly intelligent in this series is Lily (we don't know her academic status but seeing as she is trying to get into health care and she is also managing clientele in the drug and strip club WHILE also being in the HOTS), and Derek (Easy one, head on his shoulders and intelligent). That is all, everyone one else is not truly intelligent unless they do one thing or another. Example of what I mean, Magnar who is smart, but is not manipulative enough to play sides in broad daylight (He is doing right now because the frats are retarded as hell, anyone with a semblance of a brain can cause the frats to fight).
 
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