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PookieSage

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On Jill's route we also have the scene in the outdoor hottub.

But the dirty bowl task is the same on both Jill's and Bella's path, no matter if you fought for Jill or not.
Oh I didn't know that you could miss the hottub scene when on Bella's path, thanks for letting me know. But yeah I was mainly concerned about the Dirty Bowl task because that's when Bianca asked for our number
 

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I'm going to start playing this game for the first time, I want to understand why many consider it one of the best adult games on this site, I also want to understand who the hell Sage is, everywhere I see people talking about her, I just hope it's not as heavy as Acting Lessons.
It doesn't get that heavy yet, although it's always the uncertain what the future will bring. There are some heavy topics and episode 11 gets pretty dark at some moments, but imo none of those are nearly as heavy as AL.

Oh I didn't know that you could miss the hottub scene when on Bella's path, thanks for letting me know. But yeah I was mainly concerned about the Dirty Bowl task because that's when Bianca asked for our number
Yeah, on Bella's path you'll still get into the hot tub, but you'll (of course) sit next to Bella instead of Jill, so it doesn't go "wrong" with Bianca like during Jill's route when she pulls Bianca to you both.
 
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I thoroughly enjoyed playing what has been created thus far.
Uh, oh... Brothers: he didn't not mention minigames :eek:

By the way, do we know who mugged Quinn and how did they know she was carrying drugs?
I used to think it was some guy and that was that. Then, on my last run, I tried to test if it could have been James, but the facial features don't match at all (specifically, I went for the nose and the shape of the nostrils don't match) so I'm back to square one :ROFLMAO: Mick, perhaps? Unlikely. Maybe it really was just some guy that may or may not be linked to Vinny

I'm going to start playing this game for the first time, I want to understand why many consider it one of the best adult games on this site
Sweet! Good luck maggot brother!

I also want to understand who the hell Sage is, everywhere I see people talking about her
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On Jill's route we also have the scene in the outdoor hottub.

But the dirty bowl task is the same on both Jill's and Bella's path, no matter if you fought for Jill or not.
And I have another question if you don't mind :') Are there any differences between dating both Jill and Bella and choosing not to fight for Jill and just don't dating Jill and choosing Bella? If there's no difference then I can just save one extra playthrough. I know what happens when you date both up until Ep8 but I never did a playthrough of "Not fighting for Jill and chosing Bella"

Hope my question makes sense
 

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The hints of older clients point out to something well established. At the very least the restaurant would be a new addition to something much larger. If Quinn were involved in the start of the restaurant, she and Stephen would have to have a different connection, which would mean that Stephen is involved in the drugs as well. However that would also imply Quinn having contacts who have way more pull than Buddy and that would make her (and Riona) untouchable.

It just makes more sense if the drugs and the prostitution are two different games and Quinn is a very low level player in both of them. It has the potential of the evils colliding and tripping over each other. The police now have at the very least a ton of leads on the drugs at B&R and their investigation is bound to uncover the prostitution as well.
I didn't mean that there was a connection with the restaurant and the drug dealing. I meant that if Quinn is making extra money from the important clients, then she should be able to use that money to insure that she is never short in paying back Buddy. Tbh it almost seems like a plot-hole, is no one using the restaurant aside from the MC?


Stephen is already in the process of jumping ship because of the Mona and Maya situations. He has figured it's only a matter of time until the police start an investigation. He is getting a divorce because he wants at least some of his assets fully in his control. He needs to run and if Jade still has a say in their financial matters he will effectively lose it all as he can't both evade the law and fight Jade over the money. And once his corruption is revealed to Jade she will divorce him anyway and whatever the legal system doesn't take from him will belong to Jade. Right now he still has time so he is getting a divorce first and then he will disappear.
Great points, I don't believe it though. The marriage was on it's last legs anyway, more financial freedom sure, I also think he wants to be able to use his students more freely, now he wont have to sneak around as much.
I think Stephen might be a bit arrogant.
But the drug situation speeds up the police catching up to him. Either he will be caught directly or news of the investigation will alert his corrupt clients and business partners. He will have to face the law for his crimes or the underworld for his betrayals. He has already lost. He just doesn't know it yet.

All of this is on the board ready and easily incorporated in the story. The question is if it's there by DPC's design or completely accidentally. Will it actually be part of the story or will DPC drop the ball?

And if I have to DIY this story via fanfiction, I'm gonna.
I wonder if it's gonna be that easy. If he has powerful friends then I think it's likely the investigation will get shut down, pretty typical story beat. Maybe MC and the gang need to work together to bring the entire thing to light and get the people responsible arrested.
 
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And I have another question if you don't mind :') Are there any differences between dating both Jill and Bella and choosing not to fight for Jill and just don't dating Jill and choosing Bella? If there's no difference then I can just save one extra playthrough. I know what happens when you date both up until Ep8 but I never did a playthrough of "Not fighting for Jill and chosing Bella"

Hope my question makes sense
If you also dated Jill and fought for her, you get the option to kiss Jill during the "official breakup" scene. This will lead to a different scene after Bella's panty party, where they touch each others hands while laying in bed with you. This makes many players believe that this route will probably lead to a threesome scene with the two of them.

Afaik there is little to no difference between not fighting and not dating at all (yet) except for some dialogue differences.
 

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I'm going to start playing this game for the first time, I want to understand why many consider it one of the best adult games on this site, I also want to understand who the hell Sage is, everywhere I see people talking about her, I just hope it's not as heavy as Acting Lessons.
Start reading, go for Sage. You won't regret it.
Until you run out of content and have to wait for another year :HideThePain:
 

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If you also dated Jill and fought for her, you get the option to kiss Jill during the "official breakup" scene. This will lead to a different scene after Bella's panty party, where they touch each others hands while laying in bed with you. This makes many players believe that this route will probably lead to a threesome scene with the two of them.

Afaik there is little to no difference between not fighting and not dating at all except for some dialogue differences.
And if you didn‘t fought for her? Will this path lead to the same actions and dialogues as if you never dated Jill in the first place? I‘m under the impression that there would still be light tension between Jill and Bella, but I‘m not sure
 

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And if you didn‘t fought for her? Will this path lead to the same actions and dialogues as if you never dated Jill in the first place? I‘m under the impression that there would still be light tension between Jill and Bella, but I‘m not sure
Edit: It leads to a difference in dialogue at some moments if you did or did not date, but afaik there is no difference in dialogue in season 3 between if you fought for her or not besides the park and bed scene.
 

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I have to disagree, I think the Restaurant started when Quinn started her tenure as VP.
Because Sage had to do some politicking to get nominated as President. She even remarks that she was on bad terms with a senior due to Sage getting the presidential position. So with politicking, she had to be in the know with every HOT to get elected.

I like to think with Sage relationship with Chad and entering senior year, she lost focus in maintaining the HOTs letting Quinn run the initiation and the day by day.

So knowing Quinn, if more income comes from pimping out her fellow hot sisters, she will take that offer anyday and sage doesn't ask about it because it allows her to not ask her Tybalt or her father for favors
We don't know the circumstances of Sage's election. All she needs to win is to be better than her opponent. If the girl was a bit bitchy with more than just Sage the other girls wouldn't have taken much convincing.

And just because Sage gets close enough to girls to get their vote doesn't mean she'll know them inside out.

Also there are sisters who don't know about the prostitution. There is no reason this wouldn't have been the case before Quinn took over. Sage might have gotten enough votes from the girls who didn't know. If her opponent also didn't know, it would have been a non-issue.

It is also possible that Stephen ordered the girls to vote for Sage or even ordered her opponent to let Sage win, simply because she would be too busy with administrating to stick her nose into her sister's personal matters. Also the leadership position would put some distance between Sage and her sisters so she would be more likely to stay in the dark.

So it's actually more likely for Sage to become the president after only a year if Stephen is there to pull the strings. It's also going to really mess with Sage for her to find out that she got to be president because of her daddy just like Tybalt did.
 
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Edit: It leads to a difference in dialogue at some moments if you did or did not date, but afaik there is no difference in dialogue in season 3 between if you fought for her or not besides the park and bed scene.
Thanks for the answer, I think I can then safely scrap the playthrough
 

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We don't know the circumstances of Sage's election. All she needs to win is to be better than her opponent. If the girl was a bit bitchy with more than just Sage the other girls wouldn't have taken much convincing.

And just because Sage gets close enough to girls to get their vote doesn't mean she'll know them inside out.

Also there are sisters who don't know about the prostitution. There is no reason this wouldn't have been the case before Quinn took over. Sage might have gotten enough votes from the girls who didn't know. If her opponent also didn't know, it would have been a non-issue.
We might have to separate the restaurant and the scholarship, otherwise this makes no sense. Sage has been at the college for 3 years, been a HOT presumably since the first year and not once has she ever heard of this prostitution ring that several of her sisters are involved in? No rumors before she joined, no sister ever accidentally told her or hinted at it, no guy who uses the restaurant ever asked if it was her on the other side of the gloryhole? etc. Makes more sense as a recent thing, otherwise there would be more rumors.

Seems more probable that Quinn joined the HOTs, became VP and then used her position to start the restaurant. The scholarship thing could've been going for awhile with maybe Stephen more or less directly approaching students that he guessed would be receptive/desperate for help with tuition. Quinn was one of them and decided to step it up a notch.
It is also possible that Stephen ordered the girls to vote for Sage or even ordered her opponent to let Sage win, simply because she would be too busy with administrating to stick her nose into her sister's personal matters. Also the leadership position would put some distance between Sage and her sisters so she would be more likely to stay in the dark.

So it's actually more likely for Sage to become the president after only a year if Stephen is there to pull the strings. It's also going to really mess with Sage for her to find out that she got to be president because of her daddy just like Tybalt did.
DPC confirmed hack writer if this happens.
 

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We don't know the circumstances of Sage's election. All she needs to win is to be better than her opponent. If the girl was a bit bitchy with more than just Sage the other girls wouldn't have taken much convincing.

And just because Sage gets close enough to girls to get their vote doesn't mean she'll know them inside out.

Also there are sisters who don't know about the prostitution. There is no reason this wouldn't have been the case before Quinn took over. Sage might have gotten enough votes from the girls who didn't know. If her opponent also didn't know, it would have been a non-issue.

It is also possible that Stephen ordered the girls to vote for Sage or even ordered her opponent to let Sage win, simply because she would be too busy with administrating to stick her nose into her sister's personal matters. Also the leadership position would put some distance between Sage and her sisters so she would be more likely to stay in the dark.

So it's actually more likely for Sage to become the president after only a year if Stephen is there to pull the strings. It's also going to really mess with Sage for her to find out that she got to be president because of her daddy just like Tybalt did.
By better, it means getting to know the sorority girls to get a vote from them.
This is how Lily came to know about the restaurant/drugs because there is very little secrecy regarding that topic and why many people believe that Lily will be somewhere in the HOT leadership come the epilogues.

At the current story almost all girls know:
- Camilla (New)
- Riona
- Mona (New)
- Lily (New)
- Melanie
- Sarah
- Quinn
- Elena (Suspicions: She tells you this if you chose to be with Mel and Sarah after halloween)

The only ones that may or may not know about the prostitution is Heather (She knows about the drugs tho) and Arieth (Nobody tells her anything tbh).

So that is 5 vs 2 older members in the HOTs excluding Sage that is either suspecting or knows about the pimping out.

The only way Stephen would order the HOTS was to have Quinn and order them through her, but this is a discrepancy since Quinn got the VP with Sage and its confirmed that Sage was the mother to Quinn. So its more likely that during the first year of Sage presidency and Quinn VP, Stephen reached out to Quinn after reading her file and proposed the restaurant in exchange for financial gain (To the sorority or to her).
 

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By better, it means getting to know the sorority girls to get a vote from them.
This is how Lily came to know about the restaurant/drugs because there is very little secrecy regarding that topic and why many people believe that Lily will be somewhere in the HOT leadership come the epilogues.

At the current story almost all girls know:
- Camilla (New)
- Riona
- Mona (New)
- Lily (New)
- Melanie
- Sarah
- Quinn
- Elena (Suspicions: She tells you this if you chose to be with Mel and Sarah after halloween)

The only ones that may or may not know about the prostitution is Heather (She knows about the drugs tho) and Arieth (Nobody tells her anything tbh).

So that is 5 vs 2 older members in the HOTs excluding Sage that is either suspecting or knows about the pimping out.

The only way Stephen would order the HOTS was to have Quinn and order them through her, but this is a discrepancy since Quinn got the VP with Sage and its confirmed that Sage was the mother to Quinn. So its more likely that during the first year of Sage presidency and Quinn VP, Stephen reached out to Quinn after reading her file and proposed the restaurant in exchange for financial gain (To the sorority or to her).
It could be that Sage knows at least something going on, even if not exactly what. She knows about the rumor spreading and instead of spreading posters or some notification on the boards that the rumors aren't true (this is quite an important rumor), she will only deny it if someone asks her (and believes the HOTs will deny it as well). This really smells fishy to me to be honest.
 

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Like I said, I never took responsibility off Riona, Maya, or any of the other characters Quinn "manipulated." But if you justify her actions as "she has the right to do it because she's a wolf and they're sheep," then don't complain when she's lying in a pool of her own blood because someone was stronger than her, and no one will come to the rescue, because "everyone is responsible for their own actions."
Same ol Karamba argument.

"X is okay because the weak are fooled."

Replace "X" with any criminal or deplorable action. It's just okay to him.

Maybe he's played too many Russian rape games on here...
 

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I didn't mean that there was a connection with the restaurant and the drug dealing. I meant that if Quinn is making extra money from the important clients, then she should be able to use that money to insure that she is never short in paying back Buddy. Tbh it almost seems like a plot-hole, is no one using the restaurant aside from the MC?
Sorry I was a bit vague there. What I meant is that in order for Stephen and Quinn to start the restaurant they would have to have a different kind of corrupt connection and with Quinn the only other option would be drugs. I favour the idea of Stephen not being involved in that for reasons I mentioned. Thus the only thing connecting Stephen and Quinn is the restaurant and that makes way more sense if it has been going on for a long time. If Stephen is used to having to work with difficult girls because there is no one better it's more believable for him to work with someone like Quinn. The idea that he would just take the risks of starting an illegal venture with her has more glaring holes than a mouse filled wheel of Swiss cheese.

It also fits better with Quinn's money troubles if her big client cut is small and that makes more sense if Stephen is calling the shots. In other words if Stephen has been in the business longer and Quinn is a newer employee.
Great points, I don't believe it though. The marriage was on it's last legs anyway, more financial freedom sure, I also think he wants to be able to use his students more freely, now he wont have to sneak around as much.
I think Stephen might be a bit arrogant.
The marriage has been rocky for ages so why would Stephen only do something about it now? He has to have a new reason for a divorce. MC doesn't count as his relationship with Jade isn't canon and it can be done without Stephen getting the evidence. What new thing has happened? Mona and Maya risking the exposure of the restaurant.

I wonder if it's gonna be that easy. If he has powerful friends then I think it's likely the investigation will get shut down, pretty typical story beat. Maybe MC and the gang need to work together to bring the entire thing to light and get the people responsible arrested.
In which case the powerful "friends" take care of him themselves.
We might have to separate the restaurant and the scholarship, otherwise this makes no sense. Sage has been at the college for 3 years, been a HOT presumably since the first year and not once has she ever heard of this prostitution ring that several of her sisters are involved in? No rumors before she joined, no sister ever accidentally told her or hinted at it, no guy who uses the restaurant ever asked if it was her on the other side of the gloryhole? etc. Makes more sense as a recent thing, otherwise there would be more rumors.

Seems more probable that Quinn joined the HOTs, became VP and then used her position to start the restaurant. The scholarship thing could've been going for awhile with maybe Stephen more or less directly approaching students that he guessed would be receptive/desperate for help with tuition. Quinn was one of them and decided to step it up a notch.

DPC confirmed hack writer if this happens.
Not if the girls before Quinn's era were better at keeping things on the down low. Things getting risky now is mainly due to Quinn's recklessness, but this would be true if the previous manager was simply better than her. If the argument is that it couldn't have been a thing in the past because everyone would know about it then the whole thing is so inherently risky that Stephen would never have gotten involved.

It is actually canon that Stephen is very cautious in business matters and so it follows that the restaurant was a solid business until Quinn got reckless.

By better, it means getting to know the sorority girls to get a vote from them.
This is how Lily came to know about the restaurant/drugs because there is very little secrecy regarding that topic and why many people believe that Lily will be somewhere in the HOT leadership come the epilogues.

At the current story almost all girls know:
- Camilla (New)
- Riona
- Mona (New)
- Lily (New)
- Melanie
- Sarah
- Quinn
- Elena (Suspicions: She tells you this if you chose to be with Mel and Sarah after halloween)

The only ones that may or may not know about the prostitution is Heather (She knows about the drugs tho) and Arieth (Nobody tells her anything tbh).

So that is 5 vs 2 older members in the HOTs excluding Sage that is either suspecting or knows about the pimping out.

The only way Stephen would order the HOTS was to have Quinn and order them through her, but this is a discrepancy since Quinn got the VP with Sage and its confirmed that Sage was the mother to Quinn. So its more likely that during the first year of Sage presidency and Quinn VP, Stephen reached out to Quinn after reading her file and proposed the restaurant in exchange for financial gain (To the sorority or to her).
There was a different girl in charge before Quinn. Stephen told that girl to make sure Sage got the presidency. In the previous years there were other girls in the sorority who have now become alumni. Practically none of the current girls were there when Sage became president. Speculation on a completely unknown set of characters holding elections is an argument so lacking in any evidence that it is utterly pointless.
 
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Maybe he's played too many Russian rape games on here...
I haven't played any such game.:cautious:
Same ol Karamba argument.

"X is okay because the weak are fooled."

Replace "X" with any criminal or deplorable action. It's just okay to him.
And don't twist the meaning of my words.
I wasn't talking about criminal actions.
Direct violence has no justification. I was referring to the so-called "manipulation."
These are different things.
Anyone, absolutely anyone, whom someone is trying to manipulate, has the power to say -"Fuck off."
 

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There was a different girl in charge before Quinn. Stephen told that girl to make sure Sage got the presidency. In the previous years there were other girls in the sorority who have now become alumni. Practically none of the current girls were there when Sage became president. Speculation on a completely unknown set of characters holding elections is an argument so lacking in any evidence that it is utterly pointless.
Therefore knowing when the restaurant started is pointless because we don't know when it started or who started it or what started it. All we know from the Sage route is that Sage managed to beat out a no name girl who was her senior and expected to be president and that girl became salty towards sage because of this AND that quinn been running the restaurant with stephen her contact.

Knowing DPC, he either does a flashback to get answers or he just closes the restaurant plot for good.

I believe the only one knows but DPC keeps using her as the stupid plot is Arieth.


Going by Years - Sage 4th year, Arieth X year, Heather and Elena 3rd years (??? correct me if im wrong), Quinn, Riona, Mel, and Sarah 2nd years.

Reason why im saying Quinn and Rio are 2nd years is due to Tommy mentioning that he saw them during the walk of the rejects.
 
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