VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

I don't think it's just about nerds' role in the blackmail.

This time (E11) Tyballs also received a letter, to which he reacted with a smirk. It's pretty possible it has do to with MC, since we antagonize him regardless of our choices, and contents of the letter might either be related to our path or, universally for all routes, the dorm party blackout, since we're yet to discover what really happened after passing out. I'm swaying more towards the blackout, as I don't think each path has enough taboo/wrongdoing/intimidation value, but for the sake of the conversation, some of the examples:

Bella - student-teacher relationship, her technically still being married - enough for a 'scandal'
Jade - student-teacher relationship, but that'd potentially be more hurtful to Tybalt than MC or DIKs as a whole
Cathy - student-teacher relationship, but her picture was already leaked and she's not at B&R anymore
Nora - student-teacher relationship, nothing else IIRC
Josy/Maya - both J/M as a homosexual relationship and the Throuple, which at this point is already a rumor that circulated around the college, not shocking enough IMO
Sage - can't think of anything that wouldn't hurt Tybalt as well, i.e. their parents divorcing
Jill - unless something new emerges, it's a vanilla boy-girl relationship

Threats sent must essentially be something canon, so nothing related to possible relationships.

The point is that the goal of the nerds is for fraternity relationships to degenerate in a way that is self-eliminating. But it's not as if there is that concord at present. Tybalt does not need a reason to oppose mc. The real news is that we now know who is behind it, and that will be the turning point.

I, for tybalt, am betting on the trophy in Derek's room.... So for the umpteenth time dpc will make a "criticism" raised by the players his own.

 

[DanKaye519]

As I wrap up my final playthrough of EP 11, I'm trying to predict what we can expect in EP 12.

First, we'll get the reveal of Bella's room. We'll also get the fallout of Quinn ratting out Buddy. Hopefully, the demise of Vinny comes with that. His role has been underwhelming and honestly, I think it would be better to just move on. Rio's return will be glorious, especially when on her others path (hopefully having MC cause the aforementioned demise of Vinny).

We'll also get the music performance at the faculty party or fight club competition. New Year's Eve party, and final exams.

As for other possibilities. I believe we'll be subject to the heartbreak of the passing of Derek and Maya's mom. Also, I believe Josy and Maya will break up. I think there will be a fight with the Jocks and we'll see what the blackmail letter to Tybalt was. Surely, it's something he can hold over Jill's head...or possibly Sage's head. Depending on paths, I believe MC will get an awesome student/teacher threesome with Jade and Cathy.

I'm sure there's a lot more but I can't think of any right now.

 

[Chillout1984]

Threats sent must essentially be something canon, so nothing related to possible relationships.

The point is that the goal of the nerds is for fraternity relationships to degenerate in a way that is self-eliminating. But it's not as if there is that concord at present. Tybalt does not need a reason to oppose mc. The real news is that we now know who is behind it, and that will be the turning point.

I, for tybalt, am betting on the trophy in Derek's room.... So for the umpteenth time dpc will make a "criticism" raised by the players his own.

I disagree. DPC already has used choices made by players to change canon-moments. In ep 11 he used Quinn's relationship to give us an additional shot with Riona when she's looking at her phone and also leaking the video gives us a different outcome with the divorce argument between Stephen and Jade. Just to name two previous examples.

Keeping those in mind, imo it's very possible that our choices will also influence what kind of threat Tybalt has gotten. Although the outcome will probably be the same, but we'll get different dialogue/scenes depending on what kind of threat he got.

 

[Heffaz]

I don't think the picture in the story is on the wall, but either in the diary or in MC's wallet (or somewhere else). In all the scenes so far since his room has been fixed, we haven't seen the wall above the desk so we don't know what truly is there. That's why I think Jill hasn't seen it yet.

There are also other stuff gameplay-wise on the wall which doesn't really belong there, like the gym-pass or the Pink Rose VIP-card (if you decided to take it). Especially that last one would bring up questions when MC has girls over.

It's on the wall:

 

[Chillout1984]

It's on the wall:

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Yes, gameplay-wise. We don't know if it's also on the wall in the story, but I doubt it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I disagree. DPC already has used choices made by players to change canon-moments. In ep 11 he used Quinn's relationship to give us an additional shot with Riona when she's looking at her phone and also leaking the video gives us a different outcome with the divorce argument between Stephen and Jade. Just to name two previous examples.

Keeping those in mind, imo it's very possible that our choices will also influence what kind of threat Tybalt has gotten. Although the outcome will probably be the same, but we'll get different dialogue/scenes depending on what kind of threat he got.

Additions, nuances. But the event remains canon. Mc still freaks out when he finds out that Sage is Burke's daughter.

Relationship with Jade has its own consequences, but divorce remains canon.

 

[Chillout1984]

Additions, nuances. But the event remains canon. Mc still freaks out when he finds out that Sage is Burke's daughter.

Relationship with Jade has its own consequences, but divorce remains canon.

I totally agree. I'm just saying that I disagree with your opinion that our choices can't influence the threat Tybalt has gotten, seeing that DPC has done something similar before.

 

[Heffaz]

Yes, gameplay-wise. We don't know if it's also on the wall in the story, but I doubt it.

Why wouldn't it be? It's an odd way of showcasing memorabilia, but if this is what we as the player see, I don't see any reason why the wall wouldn't look exactly like that story-wise.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I totally agree. I'm just saying that I disagree with your opinion that our choices can't influence the threat Tybalt has gotten, seeing that DPC has done something similar before.

In my opinion the "threat" will be the same only the relationship with tybalt will be different, but we are talking about nuances. By the way for tybalt it really changes little what mc does, Jill anyway will humiliate and "mutilate" him. The spoiled presentation and lobs are nothing in comparison. The big firework a would be jade, but I don't think he would smile seeing her

 

[Chillout1984]

In my opinion the "threat" will be the same only the relationship with tybalt will be different, but we are talking about nuances. By the way for tybalt it really changes little what mc does, Jill anyway will humiliate and "mutilate" him. The spoiled presentation and lobs are nothing in comparison. The big firework a would be jade, but I don't think he would smile seeing her

Imo there are only two things that would make him smile when it comes to blackmail fodder: Either something that would damage MC/the DIKs or something that would ensure his stay as the president of the frats. I'm thinking that he got something to blackmail his fellow frat members, like a picture that the 3 frats were at the DIK's Halloween party. I'm not saying it will work, but Tybalt might think that will work seeing how self-centered he is.

Why wouldn't it be? It's an odd way of showcasing memorabilia, but if this is what we as the player see, I don't see any reason why the wall wouldn't look exactly like that story-wise.

Like I mentioned in my first reaction: The Pink Rose VIP card and also the gym membership card. We also see those on the wall. Storywise it's strange that the gym membership is on the wall instead of his wallet/on the desk. And with the VIP card it's strange that we haven't seen a girl react to it, if it's really there.

Also I doubt that if the picture was on the wall, Jill would have never seen it during her visits. Even if she didn't recognize the house (fat chance, but IF), then she certainly should've recognized Miranda (although not confirmed yet, it's extremely likely she's Bianca's mother).

 

[FalconLover420]

I don't think it's just about nerds' role in the blackmail.

This time (E11) Tyballs also received a letter, to which he reacted with a smirk. It's pretty possible it has do to with MC, since we antagonize him regardless of our choices, and contents of the letter might either be related to our path or, universally for all routes, the dorm party blackout, since we're yet to discover what really happened after passing out. I'm swaying more towards the blackout, as I don't think each path has enough taboo/wrongdoing/intimidation value, but for the sake of the conversation, some of the examples:

Bella - student-teacher relationship, her technically still being married - enough for a 'scandal'
Jade - student-teacher relationship, but that'd potentially be more hurtful to Tybalt than MC or DIKs as a whole
Cathy - student-teacher relationship, but her picture was already leaked and she's not at B&R anymore
Nora - student-teacher relationship, nothing else IIRC
Josy/Maya - both J/M as a homosexual relationship and the Throuple, which at this point is already a rumor that circulated around the college, not shocking enough IMO
Sage - can't think of anything that wouldn't hurt Tybalt as well, i.e. their parents divorcing
Jill - unless something new emerges, it's a vanilla boy-girl relationship

Jade - Potential Pregnancy
Nora - Pregnant

 

[DanKaye519]

I don't think the picture in the story is on the wall, but either in the diary or in MC's wallet (or somewhere else). In all the scenes so far since his room has been fixed, we haven't seen the wall above the desk so we don't know what truly is there. That's why I think Jill hasn't seen it yet.

There are also other stuff gameplay-wise on the wall which doesn't really belong there, like the gym-pass or the Pink Rose VIP-card (if you decided to take it). Especially that last one would bring up questions when MC has girls over.

She wouldn't have noticed this at any point?

 

[Chillout1984]

She wouldn't have noticed this at any point?

If we decide to go to the bar with Tommy, we see that MC at that moment in time carries Jill's picture with him. Although of course it's possible that after the house is finished he would pin it to the wall, it's also common to carry a picture of your loved one in your wallet or anywhere else that's kind of safe but you always take with you when you go outdoors.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

I don't think it's just about nerds' role in the blackmail.

This time (E11) Tyballs also received a letter, to which he reacted with a smirk. It's pretty possible it has do to with MC, since we antagonize him regardless of our choices, and contents of the letter might either be related to our path or, universally for all routes, the dorm party blackout, since we're yet to discover what really happened after passing out. I'm swaying more towards the blackout, as I don't think each path has enough taboo/wrongdoing/intimidation value, but for the sake of the conversation, some of the examples:

Bella - student-teacher relationship, her technically still being married - enough for a 'scandal'
Jade - student-teacher relationship, but that'd potentially be more hurtful to Tybalt than MC or DIKs as a whole
Cathy - student-teacher relationship, but her picture was already leaked and she's not at B&R anymore
Nora - student-teacher relationship, nothing else IIRC
Josy/Maya - both J/M as a homosexual relationship and the Throuple, which at this point is already a rumor that circulated around the college, not shocking enough IMO
Sage - can't think of anything that wouldn't hurt Tybalt as well, i.e. their parents divorcing
Jill - unless something new emerges, it's a vanilla boy-girl relationship

I don't think it will be related to the dorm party blackout. For one even if MC himself doesn't remember everyone else would. If he actually did anything massive, people would have at least made fun of it. After all the girls have made fun of his Pink Rose blackout a few times.

It's more likely to be something Tybalt can use as legal evidence against MC and the DIKs. Or what he thinks he can use as evidence. Or it may simply be a promise to give Tybalt evidence in return for which he has to do a favour. That favour then somehow becomes the preps' downfall.

I see it as extremely optimistic to think that the nerds' revenge would be tied up in the next episode. We've barely found out they were behind the letters the alpha's got. They presumably manipulated the Cathy situation, but even that is yet to be confirmed. Getting both the details of their plan and the closure of the storyline in one episode is way too fast. There are plenty of other things for ep 12 to work with while the nerd plot ferments.

That's an awesome theory. I've also picked up that, on the Jill path, she's been to the MC room many times, and never noticed the pic of Lynette and her two friends (one who is obviously related to Bianca) and the house in the background is Jill's house.

I don't think the picture in the story is on the wall, but either in the diary or in MC's wallet (or somewhere else). In all the scenes so far since his room has been fixed, we haven't seen the wall above the desk so we don't know what truly is there. That's why I think Jill hasn't seen it yet.

There are also other stuff gameplay-wise on the wall which doesn't really belong there, like the gym-pass or the Pink Rose VIP-card (if you decided to take it). Especially that last one would bring up questions when MC has girls over.

The wall is a bit tricky. The helmet most definitely is there if MC wins Hell Week. He also comments on Rooster that he will put Quinn's picture on his wall. So the wall definitely exists within the story rather than as a sort of fourth wall break. On the other hand he is shown to carry Jill's picnic picture in his wallet. He presumably needs to have his gym card on him when he goes there. Same with the VIP pass. So some of the stuff is not there. At least not on a constant basis.

Simple explanation why the girls don't see this stuff: They don't go all the way to his study area when the bed is so much more interesting. In time they most certainly would, but at this point the time covered by the game is about four months. Not counting flashbacks. It's not that weird for the girls to have ignored the study area.

 

[ShinoSilviu]

any ideea if by any chance we can actualy get a new year realease of ep 12? or anything close to it? got myself the entire december and half of january as free time and need something to do

 

[ChipLecsap]

any ideea if by any chance we can actualy get a new year realease of ep 12? or anything close to it? got myself the entire december and half of january as free time and need something to do

No

 

[Chillout1984]

The wall is a bit tricky. The helmet most definitely is there if MC wins Hell Week. He also comments on Rooster that he will put Quinn's picture on his wall. So the wall definitely exists within the story rather than as a sort of fourth wall break. On the other hand he is shown to carry Jill's picnic picture in his wallet. He presumably needs to have his gym card on him when he goes there. Same with the VIP pass. So some of the stuff is not there. At least not on a constant basis.

Simple explanation why the girls don't see this stuff: They don't go all the way to his study area when the bed is so much more interesting. In time they most certainly would, but at this point the time covered by the game is about four months. Not counting flashbacks. It's not that weird for the girls to have ignored the study area.

Imo that is extremely unlikely. You would think that at least 1 of the girls (looking at you Josy) would scout MC's room a bit while she's waiting for him.

any ideea if by any chance we can actualy get a new year realease of ep 12? or anything close to it? got myself the entire december and half of january as free time and need something to do

No chance for this year, unless DPC decides to release the episode in multiple parts (don't bet on it).

 

[GarudoSCHE]

any ideea if by any chance we can actualy get a new year realease of ep 12? or anything close to it? got myself the entire december and half of january as free time and need something to do

As has been written above several times: There is no exact date. But considering that the content that DPC makes grows with arithmetic progression every episode, I would say that it is worth waiting for by mid-2026. Although he wrote that he had an additional computer for rendering, if I remember correctly, maybe this will somehow affect the release date (But most likely not)

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

any ideea if by any chance we can actualy get a new year realease of ep 12? or anything close to it? got myself the entire december and half of january as free time and need something to do

Not possible. A new year release would mean ep 12 would be done in 9 months. Ep 11 took 15 months. At the moment we consider Sep 2026 to be realistic.

Imo that is extremely unlikely. You would think that at least 1 of the girls (looking at you Josy) would scout MC's room a bit while she's waiting for him.

Ah but what Josy would do is a moot point. The Jill picture and the mom picture are only there at the same time on Jill's path. Yes the picnic picture goes on the wall in season 2 before you make the choice in ep 8, but at that time the mom picture is not yet on the wall. So really only Jill could just casually go check on his wall and see the two pictures.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

Imo that is extremely unlikely. You would think that at least 1 of the girls (looking at you Josy) would scout MC's room a bit while she's waiting for him.

Has anyone (other than Ariet) entered the MC's room (the part where his desk is)? I just don't remember it happening before episode 11.