VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[-d2d-]

Acting Lessons? Can you tell me about this situation?

I recommend playing it and forming your own opinion.

Would hate to spoil it because the game is pretty fantastic IMO.

 

[M1Rockstar]

I recommend playing it and forming your own opinion.

Would hate to spoil it because the game is pretty fantastic IMO.

I already knew the ending, and apparently the characters are well written, so I don't want to feel it playing myself.

 

[M1Rockstar]

It's just painful and unpleasant, the death of Arthur and John in RDR 1 and 2 was enough for me, even though they were outlaws, but here the characters are ordinary and innocent people, so I'll be more careful with Badik too

 

[Better Cock Spock]

It's just painful and unpleasant, the death of Arthur and John in RDR 1 and 2 was enough for me, even though they were outlaws, but here the characters are ordinary and innocent people, so I'll be more careful with Badik too

Things will work out at the end of BADIK, happy endings and we'll all be friends

 

[M1Rockstar]

Things will work out at the end of BADIK, happy endings and we'll all be friends
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I also noticed that Tommy constantly says that he has a pLaN.

 

[M1Rockstar]

Delta Iota Cappa=Van der Linde gang

 

[maxthruster]

Because of these threats and messages, DPC closed its Discord?

I couldn't tell you why he did that for certain, but it wouldn't shock me. I know he's got a reputation for not handling criticism well. Which you'd think would make him more aware of expectations from his audience, but apparently not.

 

[-d2d-]

I'd recommend looking it up in its own thread, since it's OT here

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[M1Rockstar]

I couldn't tell you why he did that for certain, but it wouldn't shock me. I know he's got a reputation for not handling criticism well. Which you'd think would make him more aware of expectations from his audience, but apparently not.

Thanks for telling me what DPC does in the endings, I really didn't know that.

 

[bonerland]

Exactly.... That Sage one depends really on what she plans to do after school and where it takes her. The Same with Jill. The Class issue is less of a thing to Jill in my opinion, the bigger problem is if she will alter her future plans to be with the MC or not. I feel there is a good chance A lot of these relationship either have fail states or won't work out in the post credits roll. The Zoey relationship/Josy Solo/Maya Solo have the highest odds and some of the side girls that may become main girls at some point depending on how they develop.

Jesus dude, the people on the Titanic when the bow was pointing at the sky were more optimistic than you.

 

[shazba jnr]

Jesus dude, the people on the Titanic when the bow was pointing at the sky were more optimistic than you.

 

[FalconLover420]

Hey, even Josy take it like a champ, when Becky being a rookie and make fish eye
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That throuple threesome is so good

 

[Lord Bradley]

Sometimes it's hard to play this game because some scenes get so relatable and remind you of past emotional events in your own life which are so beautifully delivered here with music that plays at your heartstrings, but that is also what makes this game so great.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

That throuple threesome is so good

Yep. One of the hottest Ep.11 scenes. After Lily scene.

 

[Blue Milk]

To be fair, while I don't think the other guy's pessimism is warranted I do think if any dev is willing to give a huge middle finger to genre expectations it's DPC. He already does it pretty regularly and continues to include elements many of his players hate simply because they fit his vision of the game, not because they build to the "best" narrative. And in some ways, that willingness to go outside the box and do what no one else does is part of what makes this game so great, but it can also be infuriating at times. See the sudden erectile dysfunction last episode, the puzzle box, or every discussion ever about minigames.

I can totally see some of the relationships simply not working out. The throuple does seem pretty doomed, and while with most devs I would expect some tightrope walk to get that perfect outcome I don't think any conversation about it will ever escape the shadow of the house fire. Bella's route is obviously a ticking time bomb, Sage is leaving at the end of the year, and Jill has her own shit going on. That isn't to say they'll all fail - in any other game I'd expect success to be the default for each - but I can see any one of them ending on a "just friends" note.

Of course, we still have a whole nother season ahead of us to solve some of this drama and further strengthen our relationships, so I think a lot of this stuff will go away once we're closer to the finish line. I don't think most of the routes are doomed to fail, and it could very well be that none of them are. I could see them ending up as super specific win conditions, but knowing how unhinged some people in this forum are I would dread the reaction if any of them are forced bad ends. But I can't quite shake the idea that at least one of these relationships just isn't meant to work out, no matter what.

I always feel as though "middle finger to the genre", as it likely refers to AL, was just how he chose to make a splash in the AVN world to gain notoriety, because it definitely worked, and is not his entire mantra. Having there be a LI who dies and you have to choose who was shocking at the time because AVNs simply did not do that, and I feel as though he didn't do this subversive thing to be detrimental to the whole AVN genre but that he did it to get noticed by doing something to stand out from the crowd.

He's said before that BaDIK was the real passion project and the game he always wanted to make even as he was making AL. He just used AL both as a means to hone and develop his skills with DAZ and coding but also to introduce himself to the AVN community. If he had started with BaDIK it would definitely have suffered from both his inexperience and from just being one small cog in a big machine that people might have overlooked. But because AL gave him a lot of notoriety, not just for the tragedy but also for how people felt about its deep writing, it really springboarded him for his ultimate goal of making BaDIK because he had so many people excitedly anticipating his next game.

So with all that said, I don't think he's necessarily all about always giving a "middle finger" to AVNs by being so subversive with everything he does. A lot in this game certainly won't be as easy and straightforward as the majority of other AVNs in terms of relationsips and having to navigate pitfalls and things that could damage them, and in that he's already doing things differently, not to mention the depth of plot which most AVN do not have. So in my view, he doesn't need to go to the same lengths he went to in AL because this isn't a game designed to cause controversy in order to build a name for himself as AL was, in my mind, as he's already done that, and doing such a thing again would just make him a one-trick pony.

The throuple does seem pretty doomed

On this I will say that I think people are often seeing it incorrectly. They see the choices between them and not much in the way of them spending time together as a 3 as sign that it's "doomed" and it's a "bad relatinship", but they overlook what was going on around them.

After you get into this with them in Ep 4, Eps 5 & 6 both felt pretty good. You partied with them and had the discussion about the relationship in Ep 5 as well as hanging out with in a rather nice moment on the picninc blanket. In Ep 6 we see the girls having a good, open discussion about intimacy with the MC before getting intimate themselves and showing their compatibility, and you get nice moments with them in class, in the cafeteria, and helping them with the Scavenger Hunt, so it was all going well then. But Patrick showing up the way he did put the fear back into Maya and made her retreat into her shell again so this set it back a bit. Then because Sage reached out to her, because it can often help to have some outside help, she reached out to Josy to apologise for being so closed off after Patricks visit and then we got he waterpark date and the moments at the dorm party. Ep 9 then gave us a lot moments with all 3, Ep 10 was another unfortunate step back because of the MC thinking he needed to not spend time with both so he didn't piss off Tommy, and then Ep 11 took another hit because of the MC telling Neil about them. But even in those episodes you still had good moments with the girls separately and together and Ep 11 especially moved things forward in a positive way with the discussion between the girls at the end.

That discussion honestly does set the stage for things to get better because with Josy finally unburdening herself about what she's been feeling about herself and with Maya acknowledging they both need to be more open with each other and with the MC and with both saying this is what they want, it's certainly there that, with the right moments and choices, they can work through the issues and get stronger together as a result. Ultimately their main problem was just that they held back some things for fear of what might happen if they're honest and allowing things to fester like that and go unsaid is always bad for a relationship. But they relieved themselves of that quite a bit here as it was cathartic for both of them because they understood each other well and felt the same way. So I'm actually fairly optimistic about their future after Ep 11 because there's definitely plenty of room for it to be possible after this, it's just the MC who needs to be made to realise that he needs to do things better too.

 

[BJ461]

If the MJ path is doomed to failure, and we're put in a position where we have no choice but to choose, I'd probably just drop the route entirely. I've been invested in making the throuple work for years now, and even though they're not my favourite anymore, I have zero interest in having all that effort having been for nothing for a last minute downer ending.

 

[19Castiel23]

Nobody tell the Josy solo fans this is fake.

I wanna see their heads explode

Darkween will be very disappointed when he learns the truth.

 

[Blue Milk]

Darkween will be very disappointed when he learns the truth.

Nah, I'm sure there's some way their mind can spin this to their advantage

 

[Darkwen]

You cannot judge a writer or a creator when their body of work amounts to 1 thing. There is therefore no "pattern". By your logic, Jordan Peele was only ever capable of doing sketch comedy and nothing else, but I'm pretty sure he's shown that is not the case.

Also, I think you kind of glossed over the entire story of AL if you think that was him "not catering to fans", just like you're glossing over how both games are very different in a multitude of ways.


I literally just showed how AL does did not set a precedent because it was an entirely different thing to how BaDIK is treating this.

Now you're just being willfully ignorant.

Dude I said both games show it not just AL, what you showed is 100% wrong a long ass essay doesn't make you right.

 

[Blue Milk]

Dude I said both games show it not just AL, what you showed is 100% wrong a long ass essay doesn't make you right.

You're literally talking in circles right now because what I said was a deep-dive into how the Megan/Melissa thing in AL is in fact entirely different to how the Josy/Maya relationship is explored in this game. All you're doing is ignoring it and just being like, "Nah bro, because I don't wanna see it that way".

You've glossed over every single actual fact I mentioned about their differences which does in fact make you willfully ignorant as does you thinking that a creator/writer is just going to repeat themselves and can never do anything different.