VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[maxthruster]

you listed a bunch of various enterly diferent plotlines, but have you considered that may be the plotline of Josy and Maya are not about them breaking up but having a bumpy road and how they navigate it, and that is what we are witnessing ?

As others have pointed out, if there was no possibility of them breaking up there would be no need for the player to split time and attention among them when on their route.

 

[Darkwen]

You must be registered to see the links

I've worked on art all week. I started by posing a 92-second-long cutscene animation, split across 29 animation files. That gave the animation queue a nice bump, and I continued working on art by posing static renders and more animations.

I've been working on both normal scenes and the big free roam event scenes. I've made some environment renders used for navigating the free roam and coded those environments, too.

I will be working on scenes in the free roam event in the upcoming weeks. Of those, I have 81 scenes left to create, which includes some scenes that only have partial or no writing - the majority is written. As mentioned last week, I estimated the static render count for the free roam event to be around 2900. I also need to pose animations for any lewd scenes that fall under the umbrella of the free roam event. I'll keep you updated on this progress weekly.

There are still scenes left to create outside the free roam event, but getting through this section now will be a big step forward for the episode's overall development. In terms of art, I'm 10-15% done with the free roam event.

281 static renders and 43 animations are in the render queue.

I'll have a fresh preview for you soon.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

92 second cut scene ... fuck
yay preview scene

 

[ChipLecsap]

As others have pointed out, if there was no possibility of them breaking up there would be no need for the player to split time and attention among them when on their route.

You know, you jumped in to the conversation without even knowing what you respond to, no problem, happens with all of us, it's a very dull conversation have been talked so many time its really boring.

What I was talking about is a non Josy/Maya path where you are not on their relationship..

 

[maxthruster]

You know, you jumped in to the conversation without even knowing what you respond to, no problem, happens with all of us, it's a very dull conversation have been talked so many time its really boring.

What I was talking about is a non Josy/Maya path where you are not on their relationship..

View attachment 5457927

And you can still influence these things when not on their route. See Josy's pillow fort.

 

[Blue Milk]

I've read the last few pages, and I'll give you my opinion. I think, as someone who denied Josy and Maya all the playthroughs, I can be unbiased.
In my playthrough, Josy and Maya's relationship looks very bad. Since the end of episode 6, I don't remember any moments where they interacted well.

Considering you just said you haven't played their route then obviously you haven't seen much of them because of that very factor. If you're on their route, however, there are several examples of good moments with just the 2 of them and also with the MC.

They constantly argue and have secrets from each other.

None of this is really all that unusual or untypical for any relationship. What matters is how you deal with and overcome these things.

Josy clearly thinks more about the MC than about Maya, and she openly admits that she doesn't feel happy.

Firstly, Josy is hyper smitten with the MC and it's primarily motivated by an idealised romance in her head because she looks at this as being an easier relationship with less drama, which it would be. But this is all because of the pressure and dramas of her current relationship that she's projecting this idealism onto him. It's textbook alienation of affection, where someone who feels like they aren't getting much from their current relationship projects feelings onto someone who they think would, but this is not always something that can't be overcome.

This feeling that things are falling apart with Maya is the reason for her unhappiness, not that she's unhappy being with Maya, it's just that it's not going as smoothly as she would like. She's also been holding back a lot of herself and bottling things up because she doesn't want to burden Maya with her issues as she goes through hers and that's not been healthy for her.

Maya is getting closer to Sage, and she seems to be more comfortable with her than with Josy.

Because sometimes it's easier to be with people who aren't part of your dramas. It's why you get the, oftentimes true, stereotype of the Dads who go out to a bar rather than stay at home and deal with the issues there, because it's easier to feel more comfortable and relaxed around others who aren't part of it.

The MC acts as a glue that holds them together. However, this is also a problem. If you need glue, it means that something is broken.

Lately I've taken a different stance on this and I don't think he's glue keeping them together, I think he's like a missing piece in their puzzle, namely that he sort of filled the void that each of them had left in each other when they were forced to be apart. They were missing companionship, affection, and reassurance, all of which he offered, and so he filled that slot for each of them. Their feelings for him have since developed further by being in this relationship, but I feel he's still somewhat occupying that slot, which is why should Josy & Maya get back to where they once were with each other as they said they wanted, he wouldn't simply be a missing piece but a key and equal part of their relationship.

Off-path though, because they don't have that missing piece things are a bit more frayed, but I feel the same applies that finding their way back to each other would have them refill that missing piece with each other.

The MC can do a lot to keep the throuple together, but he cannot make Josy love Maya, and he cannot make Maya love Josy. The moment where they count the number of times the MC has been with each of them is significant. If they trusted each other, they would not care about this.

That wasn't anything to do with lack of trust or like they were trying to compete with each other. They're both a bit drunk and also delirious from the sex and they just start talking about it casually and the MC can even tell them it doesn't matter.

However, I'm not sure if accepting the throuple and ignoring one of the girls is a good idea. It is possible that dally_x is right, and such players will be left alone.

On this, I agree. I feel like it's a trap because when you get in this relationship you're supposed to be getting into it for both of them because that's what this is all about. If the girls realise you prioritised one far more than the other then they may not react well to that, and if they reconcile by default then they may come to the conclusion that his heart wasn't in it for both and he's the one left out in the cold.

If you see it that way, fine. But I think that if they have problems in their relationship without the MC (which is pretty obvious that they do), then those problems won't go away when he's with them. Josy and Maya's feelings for each other are something that the MC can't influence.

Their main problem always was that Patrick found out and it forced them to be apart because of his ultimatum to Maya. That coupled with the stress of dealing with finding a way out of the predicament caused them to drift apart as they focused more on this than each other. With the major obstacle out of the way they can now refocus on each other as they expressed they wanted to do in Ep 11.

it doesn't prove Patrick had already given his ultimatum

It does because it literally lines up with what Maya said, "He fooled me into co-signing my student loan and afterward he gave me the ultimatum that I couldn't see Josy ever again." So Josy saying, "Why does this feel exactly like it did before summer?", is because this ultimatum was given before summer and it's what caused their issues.

 

[Hahn1900]

I don't think Season 3 is all that much darker really. Everything that kicked off in S3 was already there in S1&2, just not the focus.

"darker" is the wrong word i think... "heavier" is more accurate? Which is only natural cause many plots are nearing their ends and the focus lies more on those "heavier" plots, while in season 1 and 2 they were only in the background.

The friction between the DIKs and others is now in the open too, the friction and conflicts were always there, but only on the "surface" not that openly like they are now.

That Season 3 will be a bit on the "heavier" side was made very clear with the ending of episode 9 though... i mean... vinny pulling agun was setting the bar on a new hight.

All the bigger problems where only "hidden" so far, Maya and Derek never talked about the family issues, that Patrick is a prick was pretty much all of it... but not how far it went and why. And you can copy that to pretty much every plot... all was "brewing" on the surface, but not much more... revealing everything and bring it to a conclusion is of course a little heavier than before... But i wouldnt say "darker".

I mean, everything reaches its "peak" now, so everything seems to be heavier, more serious and all that... but so far nothing real dark happened that was not forseeable. Even the Rio-"Torture". I mean... we are talking about criminal drug dealers... there are no peaches and butterflys in that business. That it will get violent at some point was no question.

There are other things that will happen, maybe in the next episode already that will be pretty "dark" but there is no way around them anyways. Most likely the death of Maya and Dereks mother for example... is that a "dark" thing though? Or just sad tragic of life? I would they the latter.

DPC started most of the things that are happening now already in the first episodes, so the tone for the future was already set. It was crystal clear that it will not be hellweek-fun the whole game. The weight only shifted a bit.

Same goes for the relationships with all the girls... they all developed from "flirting" to now even "love", so not only fun anymore, but serious feelings are involved too... like in the J&M scene in ep5... from "no string attached" to VERY serious feelings, no flirting with others allowed included. (there will be consequences for cheating, thats for sure)

So yeah, everything is reaching its peak, and that comes with a more serious tone alltogether.

Keeping that in mind iam really amazed how DPC is capable of to still deliver very lighthearted and funny stuff in the game at this point while all this serious shit is going on... sometimes it feels a little off, but overall the balance he can keep in the game between fun and heavy times is really nice.

 

[Adamxero]

92 second Madame cut scene coming

 

[Darkwen]

It does because it literally lines up with what Maya said, "He fooled me into co-signing my student loan and afterward he gave me the ultimatum that I couldn't see Josy ever again." So Josy saying, "Why does this feel exactly like it did before summer?", is because this ultimatum was given before summer and it's what caused their issues.

How can it literally line up when Maya never said when she signed and when Patrick gave the ultimatum to her. Josy said why does it feel the way it did before summer but don't mean the ultimatum has already been given you might assume it has but that doesn't might it true and we don't know how far back Josy means she just said before summer. It very lazy to blame Patrick he isn't the reason they have grown apart it much deeper then that

 

[El_Magnifico]

Bella's husband is going to show up when MC proclaims his love. End of chapter 12 - Cliffhanger.

Two Bella cliffhangers in a row ? Nah, I still think he will do a bigger dick move, like Vinny coming out of nowhere in the middle of a party and shooting someone. Of course you don't see who caught the bullet

 

[Emea7]

It’s difficult to judge season 3 since it is still incomplete. Serious question though, how many of you prefer the fun/ lighter tone of Seasons 1&2 and how many of you prefer the darker drama / moodier tone of season 3?
(Me? I enjoyed the earlier seasons, so far).

Honestly, season 1 tone was my favorite, whenever i decide to start a new save it's the part i'm most interested in playing.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Two Bella cliffhangers in a row ? Nah, I still think he will do a bigger dick move, like Vinny coming out of nowhere in the middle of a party and shooting someone. Of course you don't see who caught the bullet

I am pretty sure will see a cut scene of James coming out of prison. He stalks Bella Halloween style for a bit and then waits in the bushes for MC to walk out. Boom!!!! He cracks MC's skull with a baseball bat.

 

[ChipLecsap]

And you can still influence these things when not on their route. See Josy's pillow fort.

What had zero follow up, in the next episode.

Dont you think if that was so significant , MC should have more than a brief conversation with Josy, while compared to the path where you are with her, you just got introduced to her Mother ?

I don't know why people keep ignoring the massive personal emotional level differences between the 2 path.

You are not in the same position with either Maya or Josy, if you in their relationship like when you are not.

I assume you guys have multiple paths right ? If you are on the others path, MC and Josy relationship are at the same level as when they are together ? .

Or one of them is massively like 7 episode behind ?!


Sure DPC be like :

" Okay so I create a path where, MC is visiting Josy's mother, and they are deepening their relationship. And there is another path for the same Character Josy, where MC is not in relationship with her, but She gonna break up with Maya so She may can " start " a relationship with MC, and I can finally creat their second sex scene for the gallery , because they only have one scene together and that was in episode 2 , but its no porblem, I will creat 2 enterly sperated storyline for this one character, becasue I do not have to spend time on any other character, like Jill, Sage, Bella, other girls, etc etc.

No, it's okay, In episode 12-13 so on , I make Sure, that there will be, Sex scene with Josy , for those who are already in a relationship with her, and for those who are just started the relationship in episode 12, Oh, yeah I also have to make this with Maya too. "

Yeah, guys I'm the Fucking idiot who think this is Fucking ridiculous, I'm wrong, sorry, you guys won.


Yeah we need 15.000 fucking render, and 3 year of development time, and Hey if we already at it, Why we can't go back to Jill, She still virgin , may be I can get a second chance with her too, and have an another first time having sex scene wiht her , I mean, I have a path where she is the one who Rejected me, may be she Regret it later , like in episode 14 out of the 16 , plenty of time to catch up.

come on DPC you can do it ! ! !



edit :
Oh, I forget there is already a 3rd possible path for Josy/Maya , the one where you broke up with them in episode 9, those also have to have scenes and renders, and " events ".

 

[jd8097619]

92 second cut scene ... fuck

No doubt will be the party intro.

 

[Moni23]

If you're on their route, however, there are several examples of good moments with just the 2 of them and also with the MC.

That's right. They have good moments when the MC is with them. But how many good moments do they have without the MC? I read about the problem of two sofas at the end of episode 11. It's interesting that they didn't even consider lying down together and leaving a free sofa for the MC. It's significant, isn't it?

None of this is really all that unusual or untypical for any relationship. What matters is how you deal with and overcome these things.

True. But relationships that don't have that have a much better chance of surviving in the long run.

Firstly, Josy is hyper smitten with the MC and it's primarily motivated by an idealised romance in her head because she looks at this as being an easier relationship with less drama, which it would be.

In any case, if one of the partners thinks that they would be better off with someone else, it's a serious problem. Imagine if your wife were to tell you: "I really love someone else, but he said no, so I'm staying with you." How would that make you feel?

Because sometimes it's easier to be with people who aren't part of your dramas. It's why you get the, oftentimes true, stereotype of the Dads who go out to a bar rather than stay at home and deal with the issues there, because it's easier to feel more comfortable and relaxed around others who aren't part of it.

Josy and Maya have not been married for 20 years. They are college students who have been dating for about a year. If they are already tired of each other, what is their future?

They're both a bit drunk and also delirious from the sex and they just start talking about it casually and the MC can even tell them it doesn't matter.

It's when people are drunk that they say what they really think.

Their main problem always was that Patrick found out and it forced them to be apart because of his ultimatum to Maya. That coupled with the stress of dealing with finding a way out of the predicament caused them to drift apart as they focused more on this than each other. With the major obstacle out of the way they can now refocus on each other as they expressed they wanted to do in Ep 11.

As I remember, Josy says something like: "Patrick was never the real cause of our problems."
I'm not trying to say that Josy and Maya won't solve their problems. It's possible that they will. But at the moment, I see a lot of problems and not much effort to fix them. Other players may see it differently.

 

[Darkwen]

No doubt will be the party intro.

that one long intro

 

[Darkwen]

That's right. They have good moments when the MC is with them. But how many good moments do they have without the MC? I read about the problem of two sofas at the end of episode 11. It's interesting that they didn't even consider lying down together and leaving a free sofa for the MC. It's significant, isn't it?

It is significant because it undoes the talk they had just seconds earlier if they truly meant it about making things better they would had both sleep with MC they easily could had made it work but didn't want to
Patrick isn't there problem and even Maya has come to realize he isn't the reason for her problems with Josy. Maya herself told MC she more comfortable with MC then she ever was with Josy in ep10 that got nothing to do with Patrick

 

[treechild1]

that one long intro

Zoey has to run through the forest (again) and get across campus to party crash (out of jealousy).

 

[Darkwen]

Zoey has to run through the forest (again) and get across campus to party crash (out of jealousy).

there snow so it will take her longer that explains why it 92 seconds

 

[ChipLecsap]

That's right. They have good moments when the MC is with them. But how many good moments do they have without the MC? I read about the problem of two sofas at the end of episode 11. It's interesting that they didn't even consider lying down together and leaving a free sofa for the MC. It's significant, isn't it?

It's a player's choice, not a dilemma, if you say I love you to one of them you automatically pick the one you sait it, if not you can chose. as for Why not they share together one, well, how that would make poor folks like Darkwen feel ? DPC is not cruel , player must feel special , otherwise they will cry like they did after this . . . .

 

[xSkellington]

I didnt play this game for long time. I saw my old saves on episodes 9 but it caused me errors. Then i import season 2 files (as i remember. we went to talk tybalt family for maya's scolarship) then after finishing episode 9 it cause another error this time. I really want to continue my game so i hope someone can help.