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Holy Bacchus

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I speak for myself, not everyone but my problem with Maya is :
Of course at first you'll aim to bang her. She says I have a boyfriend, yet okay, whatever. Lies for the first time.
2nd time this issue gets brought up, after she begins to feel closer to MC, she tells she actually doesn't have a boyfriend. Hides the truth (like many said before, she didn't lie :KEK: ), straight away lies again.
Sometimes people lie or bend the truth in order to protect themselves. They're afraid that people will reject them if they know the truth about them and it makes them insecure. Some people can take this to an insane degree of lying, while others will tell little white lies that are understandable and forgivable.

Maya's clearly been hurt before when people have found out about her, especially her father which is the most hurtful thing because the father daughter relationship is considered an important component of a girl's life. To lose that unconditional love with one of the first and most important objects of her love is devastating and it's understandable why it may affect her trust in others, especially men. She may also have been bullied at school, either for being gay or suspected of being gay, and even in this day and age, this type of bullying still happens.

Her defense mechanism is to say she has a boyfriend to try and put guys off, but as she starts to trust the MC she tells him the truth as her guard is slowly starting to come down and she feels she can trust him. Her and the MC can then start to get more intimate, and perhaps she could have told him at some point or another, but I feel like she simply wanted to enjoy this intimacy and to explore these feeling for him without the Josy baggage around both their necks. It might seem like bad judgment on her part, but she's young and inexperienced and people like that make mistakes.

Manipulates MC for her tuition tasks, like, she only needed to ask and MC would help, lol. >>> Grinds on MC after turning him down. Leads to MC getting tased. Forgot the order, but if you don't tell her you are going home to have a date, she doesn't like it, and gets jealous when you come back. Because you weren't honest :KEK:
When you're backed into a corner you'll do whatever you can to get out of it. Maya felt backed into a corner with her need for tuition and Quinn offered a way out. What Maya did, to me, feels more like a harmless prank than manipulation. I also don't recall Maya getting jealous when the MC came back because I was honest with her and told her exactly where I was going and what for, but if she is upset because you don't tell her, this likely goes back to her feelings of mistrust I mentioned earlier.

Her excuse about all of these is she can't trust you yet, not gonna write what happened with her and MC to earn her trust. And then, coincidentally, the day Josy gets accepted to BR, she decides to tell MC about Josy. The excuse this time is, she didn't have the chance. Let's all ignore the fact that MC and she stays in the same dorm room.
She shared an incredibly intimate moment with the MC that was as close to having sex as they could get. This gives her a moment of clarity where she feels how deep her feelings for him are and how much better she feels being with him than feeling so hurt in her relationship with Josy. It is convenient that Josy shows up right then, but that's all part of the drama, right? Her excuse about not having the chance to tell him is wrong, you're right about that, as she did have ample opportunity to tell him, but like I said, I view that as being her not wanting to quash a potentially good thing by bringing her relationship drama into it. She might have thought it was the right thing to do, it wasn't, but I can understand it if someone did that.

Let's say we don't have any problems with any of these. Let's forget ther "MuH FrEe TuiTiOn" excuses. All of these develop, she fucks up multiple times like she says herself. What does she do? SHE DECIDES TO CHEAT THE HOTS TASKS. Yeah, why do you need to do what you must do to get? Why would you even need to do stuff the honest way? If MC decided to pour those beer to the ground secretly instead of drinking, what would you feel about it? Yeah, completing the Hell Week would be meaningless for me too.
Not everything is black and white and someone who might tell a few small lies about themself could be totally honest and forthright in other aspects of their life. Maya either didn't think the HOT tasks should be cheated or simply didn't consider it as an option. After all, taking porn videos from the internet or using a dildo does seem like something you could easily be caught out by as it could be easily seen as fake, so why risk it? It's the MC who makes her feel confident that it can work and she believes it because she trusts him, but she didn't believe it before because she lack confidence in herself. (I still don't think it will work, however, and I think they'll soon realise that too.)

Why does Josy not get the hate? She tells MC the truth. Tells his face "I'm in a relationship, but I also like you. Try to understand me." or something like that. She starts developing feelings for MC, and is honest about it to him. Doesn't try to manipulate him, and if she saw MC before Maya, not together, she would most probably break up with her. Whatever man, I'm tired of this forced drama and trying to explain it. If I have to see M/J's, especially Maya's bullshit after I decided to back off of their path, I'll fucking flip.
Yes, Josy's more honest about it because she's a more confident, straightforward sort of person. Just look at how she addressed Quinn the first time they met. Maya on the other hand has more of a wallflower-type personality; guarded, insecure, and lacking in confidence. She doesn't easily express herself because of this and it can lead to a lack of honesty, but it's not done maliciously, it's an involuntary reflex to keep people at arms length because she's afraid to let them in. That's not something to get angry about, it's something to feel pity and empathy for.

But, hey, difference of opinion, right? ;) Agree to disagree.
 

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We did agree that it's not black and white. And? Josy hates Huge DIKs, but she isn't romantically intersted in CHICKs either, and yet she rejects one type and not the other. Doesn't make much sense.

The DIK system has been great in episodes 1 to 3. It affects the way the MC treats other people like calling the ANO preps pissing off Jill a little bit or making Beth mad with the cafeteria food joke that a CHICK won't make. That's an excellent way of shaping a character based on DIK system. The thing is the conversation plays out exactly the same for a DIK character and a CHICK one, you can do the same choices, treat J&M exactly the same, have the same amount of RP and still be rejected based on things THEY DON'T KNOW.
I suppose it does seem kind of strange that you can do everything with them and then be rejected for having done things and gained a personality and reputation they don't know about, and I guess I can see why some people who are on that path are frustrated that they couldn't be with Maya and Josy. There's been a couple of moments like this for me on the Neutral path, like how the MC can't initiate a threesome with Mona and Camila but they can do one with Michelle and Sarah, and that you have to have CHICK affinity to shower with Jill.

Perhaps it would have been better if all 3 of them agreed to be friends that way Maya and Josy could get to know him better before deciding what they want and if the MC remains a massive DIK, it would be more understandable why they would reject him as they've really gotten to see what he's like.
 

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so is this done? there hasn't been a major update
*sigh* :FacePalm:

No, this game is not "done". We're only at episode 4 of potentially 20 and DPC last posted a progress update on Friday.

The last major update was in late January and each update takes around 3 - 4 months, which means it hasn't even been 3 months since the last update.

I know it's a difficult concept for so many people, including yourself, but please have some goddamn patience.
 
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Perhaps it would have been better if all 3 of them agreed to be friends that way Maya and Josy could get to know him better before deciding what they want and if the MC remains a massive DIK, it would be more understandable why they would reject him as they've really gotten to see what he's like.
That is one of the options in the game (part on friendly terms). I choose it since it looked more right than being a third wheel in a poly relationship. Truth be told i believe it is kinda hard to start a relationship like that on equal terms when two of the participants are already together for months/years.

I really hope it is possible to rekindle something with only one of them in the next updates.
I think people are looking into this game too seriously lmao. What is this thread lol?
This tends to happen when the story grabs people's attention.
 

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You guys can do whatever you want with her, I couldn't care less lol. Just pointed out the problem with her, as it's purposely viewed wrong. The problem then was people justifying fuck ups she made, finding excuses for her behavior rather than accepting her with her flaws. This has been discussed an unbelievable number of times, so I am not interested in something as pointless as this is. Could argue about it but, I already spent too much time about her issues, I'm literally done. The only thing I'm looking for is her learning that free tuition doesn't exist and even if it exists, what is the requirement. Hoping for DPC to make a appropriate dialogue option when that time comes xd

So long
 

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Sometimes people lie or bend the truth in order to protect themselves. They're afraid that people will reject them if they know the truth about them and it makes them insecure. Some people can take this to an insane degree of lying, while others will tell little white lies that are understandable and forgivable.

Maya's clearly been hurt before when people have found out about her, especially her father which is the most hurtful thing because the father daughter relationship is considered an important component of a girl's life. To lose that unconditional love with one of the first and most important objects of her love is devastating and it's understandable why it may affect her trust in others, especially men. She may also have been bullied at school, either for being gay or suspected of being gay, and even in this day and age, this type of bullying still happens.

Her defense mechanism is to say she has a boyfriend to try and put guys off, but as she starts to trust the MC she tells him the truth as her guard is slowly starting to come down and she feels she can trust him. Her and the MC can then start to get more intimate, and perhaps she could have told him at some point or another, but I feel like she simply wanted to enjoy this intimacy and to explore these feeling for him without the Josy baggage around both their necks. It might seem like bad judgment on her part, but she's young and inexperienced and people like that make mistakes.



When you're backed into a corner you'll do whatever you can to get out of it. Maya felt backed into a corner with her need for tuition and Quinn offered a way out. What Maya did, to me, feels more like a harmless prank than manipulation. I also don't recall Maya getting jealous when the MC came back because I was honest with her and told her exactly where I was going and what for, but if she is upset because you don't tell her, this likely goes back to her feelings of mistrust I mentioned earlier.



She shared an incredibly intimate moment with the MC that was as close to having sex as they could get. This gives her a moment of clarity where she feels how deep her feelings for him are and how much better she feels being with him than feeling so hurt in her relationship with Josy. It is convenient that Josy shows up right then, but that's all part of the drama, right? Her excuse about not having the chance to tell him is wrong, you're right about that, as she did have ample opportunity to tell him, but like I said, I view that as being her not wanting to quash a potentially good thing by bringing her relationship drama into it. She might have thought it was the right thing to do, it wasn't, but I can understand it if someone did that.



Not everything is black and white and someone who might tell a few small lies about themself could be totally honest and forthright in other aspects of their life. Maya either didn't think the HOT tasks should be cheated or simply didn't consider it as an option. After all, taking porn videos from the internet or using a dildo does seem like something you could easily be caught out by as it could be easily seen as fake, so why risk it? It's the MC who makes her feel confident that it can work and she believes it because she trusts him, but she didn't believe it before because she lack confidence in herself. (I still don't think it will work, however, and I think they'll soon realise that too.)



Yes, Josy's more honest about it because she's a more confident, straightforward sort of person. Just look at how she addressed Quinn the first time they met. Maya on the other hand has more of a wallflower-type personality; guarded, insecure, and lacking in confidence. She doesn't easily express herself because of this and it can lead to a lack of honesty, but it's not done maliciously, it's an involuntary reflex to keep people at arms length because she's afraid to let them in. That's not something to get angry about, it's something to feel pity and empathy for.

But, hey, difference of opinion, right? ;) Agree to disagree.
All those pathetic excuses you listed STILL doesn't justify how badly Maya wrong'd MC especially with how honest, kind and supportive he's been of her. I couldn't possibly be in a relationship with someone so hypocritically dishonest and manipulative.
 

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That is one of the options in the game (part on friendly terms). I choose it since it looked more right than being a third wheel in a poly relationship. Truth be told i believe it is kinda hard to start a relationship like that on equal terms when two of the participants are already together for months/years.

I really hope it is possible to rekindle something with only one of them in the next updates.
Actually, what I meant by "all 3 of them agreed to be friends" is that Maya and Josy would also have agreed to be just friends with each other for now rather than get back together. This way all 3 of them could have sorted out what they felt about each other separately before coming to a decision later on.

However, it is apparently not possible to rekindle a romance with them later if you choose friendship as this closes their path completely.
 

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I've played this game a few times and it definitely needs more content with sarah. She should be president of the HOTs. I don't know why, but Sarah is the cutest and hottest of all the girls.
 

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All those pathetic excuses you listed STILL doesn't justify how badly Maya wrong'd MC especially with how honest, kind and supportive he's been of her. I couldn't possibly be in a relationship with someone so hypocritically dishonest and manipulative.
Of course, lol. She just can't trust easily. I mean, we all saw MC is not a victim of bullying, had a great childhood and has zero problems with his life, right?
Even if MC decides to give up a party including hot steamy sex, a frat house full of hot HOT girls to spend time with her and tries to cheer her up. (pretty weird choice btw lmao) Nope, won't be enough. I just hope the drama will be over and we can move to the people actually matters.

Also, I still can't believe there are people believing after we see other girls' baggage in future episodes, our opinions will change about Maya. The gif restriction hurts these times real bad smh
 

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You guys can do whatever you want with her, I couldn't care less lol. Just pointed out the problem with her, as it's purposely viewed wrong. The problem then was people justifying fuck ups she made, finding excuses for her behavior rather than accepting her with her flaws. This has been discussed an unbelievable number of times, so I am not interested in something as pointless as this is. Could argue about it but, I already spent too much time about her issues, I'm literally done. The only thing I'm looking for is her learning that free tuition doesn't exist and even if it exists, what is the requirement. Hoping for DPC to make a appropriate dialogue option when that time comes xd

So long
All those pathetic excuses you listed STILL doesn't justify how badly Maya wrong'd MC especially with how honest, kind and supportive he's been of her. I couldn't possibly be in a relationship with someone so hypocritically dishonest and manipulative.
This may just be a work of fiction, but it's really quite sad to see people who lack empathy and the capacity for forgiveness, especially for such a delicate, confused, and misunderstood soul like Maya. Every fibre of my being would want to be there for her, to comfort her, to help her, despite everything she's done because she's not, in any way, a bad person. But some people clearly don't have it in them to see that and it's just sad.
 

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can someone give me a save with CHICK route before telling Maya and Josy that i want to be with them? also i stay at Bella..
 

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Of course, lol. She just can't trust easily. I mean, we all saw MC is not a victim of bullying, had a great childhood and has zero problems with his life, right?
Even if MC decides to give up a party including hot steamy sex, a frat house full of hot HOT girls to spend time with her and tries to cheer her up. (pretty weird choice btw lmao) Nope, won't be enough. I just hope the drama will be over and we can move to the people actually matters.

Also, I still can't believe there are people believing after we see other girls' baggage in future episodes, our opinions will change about Maya. The gif restriction hurts these times real bad smh
Had MC acted like some huge childish, un-trust worthy dickhead when he stayed with her then what Maya did would have been 100% A-OK in my opinion but he didn't and there in lies my problem with her.
 
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This may just be a work of fiction, but it's really quite sad to see people who lack empathy and the capacity for forgiveness, especially for such a delicate, confused, and misunderstood soul like Maya. Every fibre of my being would want to be there for her, to comfort her, to help her, despite everything she's done because she's not, in any way, a bad person. But some people clearly don't have it in them to see that and it's just sad.
I (like MC) can forgive Maya because she isn't bad person or anything like that quite the opposite. But could I forget what she's done to MC? No.
 

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Hey guys, everytime i get to the first english test, the game stops and an error window shows up. It says:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png'>:
File "game/scripts/classes/english101/english_test1.rpy", line 156, in <module>
Exception: Could not load image u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png': error('Failed to decode WEBP',)

and a lot of additional error code. Has someone a solution/knows where to look/what to do?
My gamefilesize is 1,29GB (1,31GB)
 
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