VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[despelote]

ruffles and braids

 

[Alfagrem]

That was kind of the point of my post.

For example:

• Player 1 believes there is a strong connnection between Maya and the MC and that they each have strong feelings for each other because of all the time they've spent together and because of how well the MC has treated Maya
• Player 2 believes there isn't, or at least shouldn't be, a strong connection between them because they avoided most interactions with her and weren't all that friendly towards her.

Therefore, when these 2 players engage in discussion they approach it from 2 very different viewpoints and it's what causes most of the rancor in this thread. If, however, this was a movie or even a more linear game being discussed, both viewers/players would have seen the same events unfold and so any differing opinions would more likely be based on their interpretations of the characters actions and feelings rather than on seeing 2 different sets of events and an outcome not matching up to what one of them saw.

Well what you're discussing is a conversation based on feelings and interpretation whereas I'm talking about how (Whilst that's all nice and interesting) we shouldn't ignore facts or exposition that happens when such reveals are not the product of what the MC is doing.

The Mona at the Mansion example I used is something that would've happened even if I was hanging out at Bella's, romancing Jade or whatnot. So Mona being uncomfortable with Restaurant work is a fact.

The latest discussion is about the Quinn's reaction to the kiss isn't a fact as she's reacting directly to what the MC is doing (in a skippable moment) although it still merits discussion as it does perhaps highlight something about her overall character.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Episode 6 Cosmetic poll, Josy
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1 or 3 are my favourites, but 3 would probably get my vote for 2 reasons:

1. The first 2 are a bit too much "naughty schoolgirl" for me, and it's not that that's a bad thing, it's just that in this instance it makes her seem a bit trashy
2. Josy is the first character so far to really rock the pink trousers look and it suits her better than anyone else so far and thus deserves to be showcased.

Hard question. I actually like all outfits. #3 is my least favorite, because the pink is too intense for my taste.

Ha, I have the complete opposite view on that one.

 

[marla12244]

I wouldn't mind doing chik route if it didn't lock you out of most of the sex scenes...which is kinda the point of this game.

 

[Malicre]

I wouldn't mind doing chik route if it didn't lock you out of most of the sex scenes...which is kinda the point of this game.

That's also another problem the game has. None of the alignment shit really matters past chapter 1. It seemed like Bella was only going to be available going down the CHICK path because you got -Bella points for choosing a DIK action but that mostly changed starting from chapter 2. They need to make half of these relationships only be available if your on 1 side or the other. Take Jill for an example, if your actions were really dickish throughout the game she shouldn't even want to date you but as the game currently is as long as you say the right things at the right time none of that matters.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I wouldn't mind doing chik route if it didn't lock you out of most of the sex scenes...which is kinda the point of this game.

Honestly, CHICK route doesn't block a lot of sex scenes. Of the 51 scenes in the gallery, only 4 can't be obtained if you're on the CHICK route. Everything else can be obtained whether you're CHICK, DIK, or Neutral with some scenes playing out slightly differently if you're CHICK or DIK.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Honestly, CHICK route doesn't block a lot of sex scenes. Of the 51 scenes in the gallery, only 4 can't be obtained if you're on the CHICK route. Everything else can be obtained whether you're CHICK, DIK, or Neutral with some scenes playing out slightly differently if you're CHICK or DIK.

As of episode 5, I feel that the routes / affinity are quite balanced in the sense that whichever path you take, you will miss a scene or two but not a lot.

Still playing the CHICK route makes me unmanly.

 

[NukaCola]

Isn't the entire Maya/Josy relationship blocked out if you're on DIK part in EP4?

 

[flippityflop]

Isn't the entire Maya/Josy relationship blocked out if you're on DIK part in EP4?

It's not blocked, but they reject you.

 

[lemonfreak]

Isn't the entire Maya/Josy relationship blocked out if you're on DIK part in EP4?

The poly route, yes but you can still indicate to Derek that you're interested in either Maya or Josy

 

[Malicre]

As of episode 5, I feel that the routes / affinity are quite balanced in the sense that whichever path you take, you will miss a scene or two but not a lot.

Still playing the CHICK route makes me unmanly.

I was so confused when i first starting playing the game. Why do you get +DIK hits when you punch an asshole? Punching an asshole in real life doesn't make me feel like a dick.

 

[NukaCola]

One thing that annoying me is in the beginning of EP2 you're being forced to wear that stupid helmet if you're on DIK part. I have to reload save and choose some chick choice again my will to stayed on neutral part because I don't want wear that stupid diddo helmet and miss out the lewd scene with Jill. Why can't I just give it to Derek or as least take it off before going to bed with jill.

 

[felicemastronzo]

One thing that annoying me is in the beginning of EP2 you're being forced to wear that stupid helmet if you're on DIK part. I have to reload save and choose some chick choice again my will to stayed on neutral part because I don't want wear that stupid diddo helmet and miss out the lewd scene with Jill. Why can't I just give it to Derek or as least take it off before going to bed with jill.

I didn't know, it never happened to me ...

 

[lemonfreak]

I was so confused when i first starting playing this game. Why do you get +DIK hits when you punch an asshole? Punching an asshole in real life doesn't make me feel like a dick.

If you'd trained in martial arts you'd now that most instructors will emphasise not using your skills against untrained people as it's dishonourable.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

One thing that annoying me is in the beginning of EP2 you're being forced to wear that stupid helmet if you're on DIK part. I have to reload save and choose some chick choice again my will to stayed on neutral part because I don't want wear that stupid diddo helmet and miss out the lewd scene with Jill. Why can't I just give it to Derek or as least take it off before going to bed with jill.

Yeah, that is a pretty strange decision by DPC; forcing players to wear a silly helmet but giving them the option to avoid important relationship-buidling scenes.

 

[Phynix]

One thing that annoying me is in the beginning of EP2 you're being forced to wear that stupid helmet if you're on DIK part. I have to reload save and choose some chick choice again my will to stayed on neutral part because I don't want wear that stupid diddo helmet and miss out the lewd scene with Jill. Why can't I just give it to Derek or as least take it off before going to bed with jill.

The same thing happened to me. I let Derek have it for the most part and the one time i chose to wear it was just before the Jill scene.

 

[Malicre]

If you'd trained in martial arts you'd now that most instructors will emphasise not using your skills against untrained people as it's dishonourable.

Very true but on the other hand what about if you go out to dinner with your wife/gf and someone slaps her on the ass? You gonna sit there and just take that?

 

[flippityflop]

Very true but on the other hand what about if you go out to dinner with your wife/gf and someone slaps her on the ass? You gonna sit there and just take that?

You slap their ass back and wink at them. Works every time. Trust me.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I was so confused when i first starting playing the game. Why do you get +DIK hits when you punch an asshole? Punching an asshole in real life doesn't make me feel like a dick.

Well, the consensus will just ask you to walk away when you encounter an asshole instead of punching the asshole, do not fall to the asshole's level and become one yourself. As Russell Peters will say, "BE A MAN!"

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

fully agree on the first part, it happens every time we have to judge another person's action, our experience will always be the reference.

on the second it depends.
we assume that judging the behavior of a fictional character is a pastime, a fun, but has no real value.
but the character is always the same regardless of the path. as an example: what Josy says to MC (in the case of a pact refused) after the prep party is "true" even if MC instead chases Maya and is true even if the pact is accepted: Josy believes that she can be happy with MC.

we already have very few elements to judge the characters, if then each choice creates a separate multiverse that cannot be traced back to the others then we might as well give up.

We might as well give up then. Several people, not just myself, have pointed out that the game is inconsistent in how it responds to our choices. The game is driven by his script regardless of what or how we choose to go through it. I realize the MC is not us but he doesn't really react to what we have him do. He does our little side step but then jumps right back on DPC's track.

DPC has mostly stayed away from branches in the story and while I think its a serious flaw in a choice rich game it is his game/story so were stuck with it....