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And Jill's side of the story is likely to be the more believable one.
If Rusty told his side of the story in front of other DIKs and it sounds like male bravado then sure, believe Jill. If it's just a one-on-one brotalk with the MC then I'm inclined to believe Rusty unless he goes way off with some ridiculous tall tale, which isn't like him at all. Also, let's not pretend Jill would have no motivation to conceal certain things if they could potentially damage her immaculate image.
 
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Do we, though?
True, we only have Jill's first hand account of it, but I think she's more trustworthy than most, if not all the DIK members. Jill, so far, has been pretty open toward MC overall. Rusty, and other DIK's are more self centered and care about their image/ego more than other characters (from what I've seen/noticed).

Then again, in my playthrough, I'm not necessarily (personally) allied with the DIK frats, I personally line up with Chik affinity/Chik for the Maya/Josy storyline.

As long as the maya/josy storyline doesn't get f'd with some crazy drama I don't care about the rest...

Edit: I know there's something that Jill and Bella are hiding, they obviously have serious history and her husband left after some altercation. Likely Bella cheated on him with another teachers husband. I also wonder if Bella and Jill are related, given the picture you find in Jill's room in the beginning of the game. Or maybe Jill and bella had a relationship that the husband found out about (Or jill is related to the husband)..

too many options.. lol
 
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True, we only have Jill's first hand account of it, but I think she's more trustworthy than most, if not all the DIK members. Jill, so far, has been pretty open toward MC overall. Rusty, and other DIK's are more self centered and care about their image/ego more than other characters (from what I've seen/noticed).

Then again, in my playthrough, I'm not necessarily (personally) allied with the DIK frats, I personally line up with Chik affinity/Chik for the Maya/Josy storyline.

As long as the maya/josy storyline doesn't get f'd with some crazy drama I don't care about the rest...

Edit: I know there's something that Jill and Bella are hiding, they obviously have serious history and her husband left after some altercation. Likely Bella cheated on him with another teachers husband. I also wonder if Bella and Jill are related, given the picture you find in Jill's room in the beginning of the game. Or maybe Jill and bella had a relationship that the husband found out about (Or jill is related to the husband)..

too many options.. lol
So... you're saying Bella could be Jill's stepmom ;)
 
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If Rusty told his side of the story in front of other DIKs and it sounds like male bravado then sure, believe Jill. If it's just a one-on-one brotalk with the MC then I'm inclined to believe Rusty unless he goes way off with some ridiculous tall tale, which isn't like him at all. Also, let's not pretend Jill would have no motivation to conceal certain things if they could potentially damage her immaculate image.
Even in a one-on-one I reckon he'd likely confirm Jill's side. He'd probably even admit to his "bro" behaviour when he met up with his fellow DIKS but wouldn't understand what he did that was wrong and thinks it was all just a misunderstanding or that she was too stuck up and not fun enough for him.
 

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Pretty sure they were girlfriends or at least had an affair, was just a what if from what Tidoguy said.
I don't think's it a what if based on the information so far. Especially that scene in Ep. 5. I'm 99% sure the reason Bella's marriage blew up was that she had an affair with Jill.
 
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I don't think's it a what if based on the information so far. Especially that scene in Ep. 5. I'm 99% sure the reason Bella's marriage blew up was that she had an affair with Jill.
The whatif part was when Tidguy was saying that Jill could have been related to Bella's husband.
 

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I don't think's it a what if based on the information so far. Especially that scene in Ep. 5. I'm 99% sure the reason Bella's marriage blew up was that she had an affair with Jill.
But Bella clearly blamed her husband for something.
 

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If Rusty told his side of the story in front of other DIKs and it sounds like male bravado then sure, believe Jill. If it's just a one-on-one brotalk with the MC then I'm inclined to believe Rusty unless he goes way off with some ridiculous tall tale, which isn't like him at all. Also, let's not pretend Jill would have no motivation to conceal certain things if they could potentially damage her immaculate image.
I don't see how anything that happened on the date would matter to Jill's image. It's not like the MC would care about her past boyfriends (he certainly hasn't been picky about other girls' lack of "innocence"). And I find it implausible she was participating in any drunken frat antics herself. So what is there to cover up? Besides, she's the one who brought up the topic, so it's hard to believe it could lead to some embarrassing skeleton in her closet.

All in all, I think Holy Bacchus is right: if Rusty's story differs from Jill, it will be in how how the two perceived each other's actions.
 

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Seeing as how Josy openly brags about being a party girl, I wonder if she'll be down with joining Quinn's restaurant while Maya is aghast at the prospect.

Quinn: "Let me spell it out for you, Barbie doll! We're prostitutes. If you want 'free tuition,' then you're going to have to fuck clients for money!"

Maya: 'I really don't think-"

Josy: "Okay, I'm in."

Maya: "What?!!???"

Josy: "Have you SEEN some of the guys on the client list? Total studs!"
 
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Seeing as how Josy openly brags about being a party girl, I wonder if she'll be down with joining Quinn's restaurant while Maya is aghast at the prospect.

Quinn: "Let me spell it out for you, Barbie doll! We're prostitutes. If you want 'free tuition,' then you're going to have to fuck clients for money!"

Maya: 'I really don't think-"

Josy: "Okay, I'm in."

Maya: "What?!!???"

Josy: "Have you SEEN some of the guys on the client list? Total studs!"
I'm starting to think you casually drop by sometimes to farm some facepalms.
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Well too early to complain yet . :p . But Jill did not liked when Rusty acted differently toward her once his friends arrived. with an insight flashback, that could be potentially put to the test with the MC. How He will treat Jill when his friends are around. and I don't mind slow build up. this is just the second chapter of the second season, out of 4 season. I don't want everything at once :D.
complain first
complain hard
no mercy

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I REALLY hope Zoe shows up in season 3, looking to reconnect with MC, playing the same role Ana did in Acting Lessons.


Sage: [Tears in her eyes.] I can't believe you! I dumped Chad for you, and now you tell me you're going back to your surfer ex-girlfriend?

MC: I...I'm sorry, but I love her.
Zoe? Eww!

"Don't worry, Sage, you fine foxy lady. You got nothing to worry about with that homeless chick."
 

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Okay I figured out. This is a flashback to Jill and Rusty date. This is when Tommy show up and Rusty will act differently toward Jill. Jill is wearing very summer time outfit, so does Tommy, shirtless, only jacket.
and We knew, we are actually moving toward colder weather, winter is coming. So my bet that this is actually flashback :p

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it's the same place, and Tommy looks younger, it is a flashback, to a Jill and Rusty date.
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all clucks posted by DPC are present day so no Jill/Rusty flashback.
 
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Obviously, he is. The catch is that he's getting something Rusty wants, too. At a certain point you can't really call that manipulation.

After all, the MC is only pledging the DIKs to have a roof over his head. He was happy to mooch off Rusty same as the rest. Now, you can say he was willing to do work to repair the mansion when Tommy just wanted someone else to fix it, but I say that's just a result of the MC being smarter than Tommy. Tommy being a whiny bitch has never been in question. If Rusty had enough money to repair the place, would the MC have insisted he and his 'brothers' do the work themselves anyway? Doubtful.

And it's not like the MC was offering to patch up the mansion for the DIKs on his own. In the end, his big speech conveniently resulted in the DIKs agreeing to pitch in to help solve the MC's problem. So shall we conclude that the MC is manipulating the DIKs too?

If we want to see actual manipulation, I think Quinn is a better choice. Unlike Tommy, she deliberately lied to Sage so that Sage would do something she never would have done on her own. Moreover, the end result of Sage's sacrifice was supporting a cause Quinn knew Sage would not approve of. Quinn even tried to goad Sage into getting more money by submitting to her parents. That is what taking advantage of a rich friend looks like.

To me, the difference between the MC and Tommy is much smaller than the difference with Quinn. Tommy is lazy and headstrong, so he feels no shame in mooching. But he doesn't trick his marks. He takes whatever he gets just by being himself. You'll note that when he says he considered Quinn an even closer friend than Rusty, the context is not that Rusty is no longer a close friend; it was meant to illustrate just how close he felt his bond with Quinn was.

Similarly, when Vinny said Tommy and Rusty should pass their own hazing rules Tommy was initially insulted, but by the time they were picking tasks on the roof Tommy was enthusiastic even knowing he'd have to do them. Clearly his interest in bonding with frat brothers outweighed the missed opportunity to demean people in his mind.

I understand your dislike for Tommy. I even share it. But I think you are going to far when you assume that ALL his motivations are not merely self-serving, but must harm those around him as well.
I don't understand why talking about the right or wrong behavior of the various characters often ends up being incredibly hard on MC.

MC does not need DIKs to have a roof, he would have a dorm room, being able to avoid living with a very strange guy he would prefer to stay with DIKs (then if he wanted to in 50% of the games he could return to be with Maya and Josy which I think is not a very bad solution...), but the room with DIKs is not a privilege, it is MC's right after having made it through hells week, he earned it, a right that Tommy's childish behavior has put at risk, with flying dildos revenge...


I have already expressed my opinion about Tommy, a dog that barks and does not bite, when he speaks he is always very unpleasant (with everyone, even with Rusty), but then in his gestures he is harmless
 

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all clucks posted by DPC are present day so no Jill/Rusty flashback.
This, and it would end up being a huge disappointment for us Jill's fans if this one turns out to be just a flashback, all this hype just to reduce it to a mere flashback of Jill/Rusty date, if that one is mentioned again I hope it will just be during a man to man talk or just a small scene, but I really don't see the necessity of it to be posted on twitter.
 
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