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What I mean here is not that I dont look at anyone but Josy in the game (this is impossible anyway), but that I cannot establish an emotional connection with anyone other than Josy.
When I did a Dik route I was more confused during the scene with MC and Josy alone in the apartment. To me she seems more genuinely upset she didn't try to have a relationship with MC because of Maya. I don't know why but I think this may be the biggest plot twist in the game. Just curious how you see that playing out
 

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No, the event in the pool if you stay with Bella in Episode 4 is also significant. The MC stops his constant flirting with her for a moment and she decides to continue of her own volition. It's a vital part of her development.

Unfortunately, that becomes a problem because it's also entirely optional. As a result, the Episode 5 lewd scene in her sauna winds up feeling disjointed. If you got the pool scene, it feels like regression - that even after Bella admits what she wants she still insists she didn't. But if you skipped the pool scene it's even worse, because it looks like the MC is just refusing to take no for an answer and keeps harassing Bella until she gives him what he wants. I suspect this is because DPC didn't want to restrict Bella's arc to only one route in Episode 4, but the end result is a badly sprained narrative.

So IMHO it's not that there aren't any other significant developments in Bella's arc, it's that the game has to pretend those development aren't significant.
being an optional part it cannot be vital for the development of the relationship by definition.

I tend to consider the scenes of the three routes in the fourth episode as bonus scenes, useful to better understand some characters, to score points with them, but not fundamental in the story

I didn't mean that the scene in the library is the only scene where we discover something of the relationship between the two characters, but it is the only one that in my opinion pushes towards a development of this. after that scene we expect there will be a confrontation if not between Bella and MC at least between Bella and her husband, or between Bella and herself.
 

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the constraint of history prevents a LI from moving away from us.

with Maya and Josy in the worst case we remain friends (at the end of the scene in the DIKs mansion a "violent" separation would have been credible), because in any case we will have to be involved in the scavenger hunt.

when history no longer needs a relationship with them, then if anything there will be a reason why they will move away from us

it is the script that we are kind and ready for forgiveness
 
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For my part, I'm very supportive of their relationship (Maya X Josy) but I really don't want it to get in the way of MC X Jill.
I don't rcare that they (J and M) are in a relationship. Good for them, but I don't even want to be friendly. At least MC should have been given time to think before just accepting the way the whole thing went down. It just felt like he was forced to be their friend. And I didn't use either one of them in scavenger hunt after the whole thing went down. And, like you I really don't want them to get in the way of Jill either. Though since MC starts relationship with her afterwards it shouldn't piss off Jill if she founds out he had relationship with either of them. As it is I am having hard time of how to handle Sage. She is just too much of a yummy redhead for me to back off.
 
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I don't rcare that they (J and M) are in a relationship. Good for them, but I don't even want to be friendly. At least MC should have been given time to think before just accepting the way the whole thing went down. It just felt like he was forced to be their friend. And I didn't use either one of them in scavenger hunt after the whole thing went down. And, like you I really don't want them to get in the way of Jill either. Though since MC starts relationship with her afterwards it shouldn't piss off Jill if she founds out he had relationship with either of them. As it is I am having hard time of how to handle Sage. She is just too much of a yummy redhead for me to back off.
Well, yeah Sage is starting to become one of the most likeable characters in the game, and her being fwb with the MC really contribute to it. But in the end we have to make a choice, a part of me wishes that Chad would turn over a new leaf, maybe near the end of the game, and they are back to being together again for real this time, or if it doesn't go that way, finding another person that really gets attached to her not just sexually but emotionally too like the MC, it shouldn't be hard for her, we probably see that only in an epilogue though. For now, I'm fine being her fuckbuddy but I'm really much more excited with a sex with Jill, and to a lesser extent Bella, with Sage we will most likely get a lot of sex scenes in each episode, but it's a bit too predictable at this point and this get me less excited.
 
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I don't rcare that they (J and M) are in a relationship. Good for them, but I don't even want to be friendly. At least MC should have been given time to think before just accepting the way the whole thing went down. It just felt like he was forced to be their friend. And I didn't use either one of them in scavenger hunt after the whole thing went down. And, like you I really don't want them to get in the way of Jill either. Though since MC starts relationship with her afterwards it shouldn't piss off Jill if she founds out he had relationship with either of them. As it is I am having hard time of how to handle Sage. She is just too much of a yummy redhead for me to back off.
Well, no matter what you do, you're still forced to be best friend with Derek too. For the sake of the plot, we can't really ignore any LI. For better and for worse, even if we choose to reject them, they're still central part of the story. They're also connected to others major characters (Derek, Tommy, the Hots as a whole...). Take Josy for example, she started a friendship with Jill, there no way she'll just disapear just for the MC. At least, the player isn't really force to "help Josy" in ep5. Who knows ? Maybe M & J could grow to dislike the manwhore Dik MC :BootyTime:
 
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Well, no matter what you do, you're still forced to be best friend with Derek too. For the sake of the plot, we can't really ignore any LI. For better and for worse, even if we choose to reject them, they're still central part of the story. They're also connected to others major characters (Derek, Tommy, the Hots as a whole...). Take Josy for example, she started a friendship with Jill, there no way she'll just disapear just for the MC. At least, the player isn't really force to "help Josy" in ep5. Who knows ? Maybe M & J could grow to dislike the manwhore Dik MC :BootyTime:
I don't want them to disappear. I am perfectly fine with them being there. Like you say they are a important to the whole thing, but I'd like to be able to ignore them. At least for now. Maybe down the road they can become friends again, but for now it just feels weird that they seem to ignore what happened. As far as them hating MC for being a manwhore it'd be pretty hypocritical of them. Considering that both of them were in a relationship and yet wanted to bang him and what Maya was willing to do (and may or may not have done) to get into HOTs.
 
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I don't want them to disappear. I am perfectly fine with them being there. Like you say they are a important to the whole thing, but I'd like to be able to ignore them. At least for now. Maybe down the road they can become friends again, but for now it just feels weird that they seem to ignore what happened. As far as them hating MC for being a manwhore it'd be pretty hypocritical of them. Considering that both of them were in a relationship and yet wanted to bang him and what Maya was willing to do (and may or may not have done) to get into HOTs.
The fact that they are "important to the whole thing" is precisely why you can't ignore them. They can't be an important aspect if there are no interactions with them. They will have to show up a lot and interact with the MC and the player will not be able to avoid everything with them.
 

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The fact that they are "important to the whole thing" is precisely why you can't ignore them. They can't be an important aspect if there are no interactions with them. They will have to show up a lot and interact with the MC and the player will not be able to avoid everything with them.
Of course you can ignore them. Other than when you have to deal with them in the story and that could help bring them back into friendship. I ignored a co-worker the whole time we worked together (just over a year). When the work required us to interact we did, but after that we just went our separate ways. I saw him around and we'd exchange His and Byes and that's all. No hostilities, just trying to stay out of each other's way when possible.
 

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Of course you can ignore them. Other than when you have to deal with them in the story and that could help bring them back into friendship. I ignored a co-worker the whole time we worked together (just over a year). When the work required us to interact we did, but after that we just went our separate ways. I saw him around and we'd exchange His and Byes and that's all. No hostilities, just trying to stay out of each other's way when possible.
but at that point how would they ask you for help in scavenger hunt for example?

it wouldn't make sense, you always have to separate what we "feel" about the characters and what MC feels

evidently in the story conceived by DPC, MC all in all understands the choice of the girls whatever it is, surely he will not have been happy (he says to Josy it directly), but he accepts it
 

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Of course you can ignore them. Other than when you have to deal with them in the story and that could help bring them back into friendship. I ignored a co-worker the whole time we worked together (just over a year). When the work required us to interact we did, but after that we just went our separate ways. I saw him around and we'd exchange His and Byes and that's all. No hostilities, just trying to stay out of each other's way when possible.
You already can ignore them. In episode 5, the only required interaction with them is when you meet them at the party and Josy asks you to help meeting her father, which you can decline
 

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Of course you can ignore them. Other than when you have to deal with them in the story and that could help bring them back into friendship. I ignored a co-worker the whole time we worked together (just over a year). When the work required us to interact we did, but after that we just went our separate ways. I saw him around and we'd exchange His and Byes and that's all. No hostilities, just trying to stay out of each other's way when possible.
That's real life, game rules are different. In this game, the MC will do a lot more than just exchange a quick 'Hi' and 'Bye' every so often. Yes, there will likely be choices between them and another LI, but there will also likely be unavoidable moments and choices between just the 2 of them because that's what the game will require.
 
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Just a question, I really enjoy playing this game. Just wondering when the next update is coming. Getting excited yo.
 

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Just a question, I really enjoy playing this game. Just wondering when the next update is coming. Getting excited yo.
We don't have a confirmed date, but based on the latest progress in the status update we're probably about another 3-5 weeks away.
 

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Just a question, I really enjoy playing this game. Just wondering when the next update is coming. Getting excited yo.
No one really knows an exact date, though we do know DPC is in the final stages of the next episode. Looking at past posts show that calculations given for renders remaning and beta-testing means we can expect the episode earlier by first week of November.
 
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