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DavDR

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Okay. So if a guy gives his aunt a french kiss is not incest for you?
Oh God, you people have incest on the brain. For the last time, as I have stated multiple times before, I do not believe the pic in Jill's drawer is the MC's Mother.
 

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Uhm, after a date with Jill, if Bella doesn't like you, there is a choice to tell her that you're not a nice guy. And you can choose to not go to the library after asking Jill for a date, that avoids pretty much everything you can do with Bella. So all you end up doing is staying the night at her house and then hanging out there until you can get back to campus
Yeah, but you continue to interact with both characters. The visit to Bella's house was about a third of the whole episode. I don't know if it will continue like that in E 6, but given what we've seen so far it seems odd that you don't have any choice but to interact with those two. If you chose to not enter M & J's relationship you can completely avoid them and the picnic scene never occurs. Same with Jade, you speak with her about the HOT situation but that's as far as it goes.

Correction *Sage not Jade
 
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ename144

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Yes, but Jill and Bella are the two characters that you can't choose NOT to pursue. You are going to have the date with Jill no matter what you choose. Likewise, you have no choice in kissing Bella. For the other's you can choose not to give guitar lesson's. You can choose to not help Maya and you can choose to not sleep with Josy. Jill and Bella are the only paths that the game forces you to pursue.
We were totally forced to pursue Maya and Josy. We spent a whole episode with the MC moping about those pursuits not going the way he expected. Likewise we are able to reject Bella if the MC either never impresses her or chose not see her in the library. Spending time with her is forced, but there doesn't have to be anything romantic about it.

The only difference with Jill is that her story has taken longer to unfold so we aren't at the point of choosing yet.
 

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We were totally forced to pursue Maya and Josy. We spent a whole episode with the MC moping about those pursuits not going the way he expected. Likewise we are able to reject Bella if the MC either never impresses her or chose not see her in the library. Spending time with her is forced, but there doesn't have to be anything romantic about it.

The only difference with Jill is that her story has taken longer to unfold so we aren't at the point of choosing yet.
Yeah, you do start the game with a crush on Josy, but that's all resolved by episode 4. With Jill and Bella, you meet them on the first day of school and all through episode five you can't get rid of them. There is a distinct push to follow that path, and I'm just wondering why? It could easily have been resolved in E 4 by just not asking Jill out. I don't know what is coming in E 6.
 

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Yeah, you do start the game with a crush on Josy, but that's all resolved by episode 4. With Jill and Bella, you meet them on the first day of school and all through episode five you can't get rid of them. There is a distinct push to follow that path, and I'm just wondering why? It could easily have been resolved in E 4 by just not asking Jill out. I don't know what is coming in E 6.
You can't ignore Jill for the same reason we couldn't refuse the second date with Josy in Episode 2: we need to keep interacting with the LIs to see their story unfold. In Jill's case (as in Josy's), the excuse is that the MC is dating her (casually). In Bella's case, the excuse seems to be that she's Jill's friend.
 

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No, you can choose to not help Maya. Then you can go have sex with Q and R. You can also choose to not stay with Josy.
what do you mean?

you play tennis with Jill, I don't think it's such a romantic date
certainly less romantic than dinner with Josy, which you cannot refuse

in no way does MC bind to Jill (if the date goes wrong Jill explicitly thinks so) and even less to Bella
 

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Also, you can justify your date with Jill because you just wanted to piss off Tybalt, not because you really like her. They were about to throw you out from their mansion and you decided to ask her out just to show him you have balls. Then is nothing more than a friendship for you, even if she obviously has some other feelings for you. It's waaaay worse for me as a player to see the MC pursuing and crying for M&J no matter what I do when I have 0 love/lewd interest in them
 
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Also, you can justify your date with Jill because you just wanted to piss off Tybalt, not because you really like her. They were about to throw you out from their mansion and you decided to ask her out just to show him you have balls. Then is nothing more than a friendship for you, even if she obviously has some other feelings for you. It's waaaay worse for me as a player to see the MC pursuing and crying for M&J no matter what I do when I have 0 love/lewd interest in them
once you accept that MC is upset by Josy's arrival (regardless of whether the choices were in the direction of Maya or Josy) it is acceptable that MC accepts Jill's invitation just to distract himself.

the problem is always the disconnect between the player and MC.

However Josy is presented to us as an MC crush, so regardless of the dinner date Josy remains this. with Maya perhaps the situation is more forced, I don't remember if there is any mandatory step to establish that MC still has an interest in Maya.
 

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what do you mean?

you play tennis with Jill, I don't think it's such a romantic date
certainly less romantic than dinner with Josy, which you cannot refuse

in no way does MC bind to Jill (if the date goes wrong Jill explicitly thinks so) and even less to Bella
And yet you spend a third of episode 5 in their company.

You can refuse to help Josy after meeting her and Maya at the party, and if you do you can skip three further scene's (the meeting with her Father, the aftermath of that meeting, and the picnic). Even if you don't kiss Jill you are stuck with the whole long visit at Bella's.

The question is, why can't you skip the time at Bella's house? It's either filler, which bodes ill for DPC's writing in future episode's, or you are stuck with them for some significant reason that will be revealed in the future. Even if you are not pursuing a relationship with either of them.
 
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And yet you spend a third of episode 5 in their company.

You can refuse to help Josy after meeting her and Maya at the party, and if you do you can skip three further scene's (the meeting with her Father, the aftermath of that meeting, and the picnic). Even if you don't kiss Jill you are stuck with the whole long visit at Bella's.

The question is, why can't you skip the time at Bella's house? It's either filler, which bodes ill for DPC's writing in future episode's, or you are stuck with them for some significant reason that will be revealed in the future. Even if you are not pursuing a relationship with either of them.
there are 5 LIs, spending a third of the time with two of them is perfectly average.
Who should you spend time with?

it is already strange that Sage disappears for practically the whole chapter

the mystery of Bella and her husband is sure to have an influence on MC regardless of his involvement with Bella.

I don't understand, however, why in a game where 5 girls are presented to you as possible soul mates, a player should want to avoid 2 or more of them absolutely when we are still one third of the way through.

to choose between them you have to know them, to know them you have to frequent them
 

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Can someone help me with the choice about being Josy and Maya's third wheel?

I've followed the choices that should lead me into being part of their (romantic relationship) but in the end they reject me for no reason, i'm guessing this is a bug but can someone do me a solid and just post some sort of fix?
 

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And yet you spend a third of episode 5 in their company.

You can refuse to help Josy after meeting her and Maya at the party, and if you do you can skip three further scene's (the meeting with her Father, the aftermath of that meeting, and the picnic). Even if you don't kiss Jill you are stuck with the whole long visit at Bella's.

The question is, why can't you skip the time at Bella's house? It's either filler, which bodes ill for DPC's writing in future episode's, or you are stuck with them for some significant reason that will be revealed in the future. Even if you are not pursuing a relationship with either of them.
The reason for bella's house visit is to console cathy and as its late ,he stayed there.
 

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Can someone help me with the choice about being Josy and Maya's third wheel?

I've followed the choices that should lead me into being part of their (romantic relationship) but in the end they reject me for no reason, i'm guessing this is a bug but can someone do me a solid and just post some sort of fix?
If you have DIK affinity or didn't have "sex" with either of them, then they reject you. You must have Neutral or CHICK affinity and have stayed with at least one of them to be accepted.

So it's not a bug, but it is a very poor decision by DPC to have it be like this.
 
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Can someone help me with the choice about being Josy and Maya's third wheel?

I've followed the choices that should lead me into being part of their (romantic relationship) but in the end they reject me for no reason, i'm guessing this is a bug but can someone do me a solid and just post some sort of fix?
either you are in dick affinity or didn't makeout with atleast one of them in previous episodes.
 

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there are 5 LIs, spending a third of the time with two of them is perfectly average.
Who should you spend time with?

it is already strange that Sage disappears for practically the whole chapter

the mystery of Bella and her husband is sure to have an influence on MC regardless of his involvement with Bella.

I don't understand, however, why in a game where 5 girls are presented to you as possible soul mates, a player should want to avoid 2 or more of them absolutely when we are still one third of the way through.

to choose between them you have to know them, to know them you have to frequent them
No, I totally reject that. If you are not interested in an LI in a game, the game should not force them on you. It's all about choice, right? And in fact I do pursue Jill in another playthrough.
 
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If you have DIK affinity, then they reject you. You must have Neutral or CHICK affinity to be accepted.

So it's not a bug, but it is a very poor decision by DPC to have it be like this.
I don't consider it a poor decision, basically they don't want to take risk with impulsive and short tempered guy(if dik affinitty)as we see his dialogues are different with them in past when affinity is different too.
 

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If you have DIK affinity or didn't have "sex" with either of them, then they reject you. You must have Neutral or CHICK affinity and have stayed with at least one of them to be accepted.

So it's not a bug, but it is a very poor decision by DPC to have it be like this.
No no, i did have sex with Josy and i have CHICK affinity, i am using the cheat mod but i've used it on a previous occasion and it was fine.
 

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No, I totally reject that. If you are not interested in an LI in a game, the game should not force them on you. It's all about choice, right? And in fact I do pursue Jill in another playthrough.
but your choices remain, having moments with them doesn't change anything about your relationship if you don't want it to change
 
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