VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Meangene1!]

DPC needs to add something like this as a main menu screen for Android
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Some us motherfuckers has to work so kiss my mobile phone ass

 

[shazba]

not for nothing for me it is the second worst scene of the game ....

but as much as Tybalt has always been made fun of (like his father for that matter), if his threat is ridiculous by reflex it becomes ridiculous even Jill who takes it seriously. so I think a minimum will be considered in a "serious" way, so as not to completely ruin an LI

Considering Jill ends up playing DnG with everyone, including the MC, and even flirting with him in the game, and then Tybalt actually catches them in the act (of playing, not flirting - obviously the mc's mind was miles away from the reality at that point) and Sally browbeats Tybalt down so bad that he fucks off, I don't think it'll take much to end that particular drama.

Even the picnic where Jill blurts out the whole thing, it ends with them kissing passionately in the rain with the mc squeezing her aptly sized tits and Jill is totally into it. Tybalt's not really have much of an impact on that relationship...

 

[felicemastronzo]

Considering Jill ends up playing DnG with everyone, including the MC, and even flirting with him in the game, and then Tybalt actually catches them in the act (of playing, not flirting - obviously the mc's mind was miles away from the reality at that point) and Sally browbeats Tybalt down so bad that he fucks off, I don't think it'll take much to end that particular drama.

Even the picnic where Jill blurts out the whole thing, it ends with them kissing passionately in the rain with the mc squeezing her aptly sized tits and Jill is totally into it. Tybalt's not really have much of an impact on that relationship...

said in this way it would be the worst twist in history ...

I guess the meeting in the library doesn't matter, Jill doesn't want to avoid MC before talking to him (at the picnic or never). she has evidently not yet accepted Tybalt's advice.

the central point of Tybalt's blackmail however is not so much avoiding MC, but starting to publicly date himself

now we have to see what Jill will do if she couldn't / wanted to talk to MC about it

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Considering all scenes with Tybalt (including the blackmail scene and even when he tries to enforce that agreement with Jill when he finds them in the library) have painted him as such an icon of ridicule, I’d find it hard to believe this will become anything serious.

I dunno, I can see that being the very reason it becomes something serious. The bumbling fool everyone dismissed setting in motion events(either intentionally or accidently/by losing control) that seriously mess with the protagonist is a pretty classic trope.


EDIT: I have to admit, though, that this line of thinking is dangerous in that you can dismiss/counter anything somone says plotwise. "Oh Vinny? The seemingly dangerous and hypersmart villain being an ineffectual buffoon is a pretty classic trope" And on and on.

I think Episode 8 will show us which way DPC will swing with Tybalt. I expect Episode 7 to play the Jill subplot straight to let it build momentum, and then Episode 8 will take it to the next phase.

 

[Gladheim]

I dunno, I can see that being the very reason it becomes something serious. The bumbling fool everyone dismissed setting in motion events(either intentionally or accidently/by losing control) that seriously mess with the protagonist is a pretty classic trope.

But he's usually a short-lived villain, to keep the drama going and worse villains come out later. I think that's it, Tybalt will never be a villain as such, it has always been one of the humorous keys and changing him now as a serious villain would not work, nobody would believe it and honestly for me it would be a mistake.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

But he's usually a short-lived villain, to keep the drama going and worse villains come out later. I think that's it, Tybalt will never be a villain as such, it has always been one of the humorous keys and changing him now as a serious villain would not work, nobody would believe it and honestly for me it would be a mistake.

True, true. Thats a good point too. Consistency is key to a good story.

 

[shazba]

I dunno, I can see that being the very reason it becomes something serious. The bumbling fool everyone dismissed setting in motion events(either intentionally or accidently/by losing control) that seriously mess with the protagonist is a pretty classic trope.


EDIT: I have to admit, though, that this line of thinking is dangerous in that you can dismiss/counter anything somone says plotwise. "Oh Vinny? The seemingly dangerous and hypersmart villain being an ineffectual buffoon is a pretty classic trope" And on and on.

I think Episode 8 will show us which way DPC will swing with Tybalt. I expect Episode 7 to play the Jill subplot straight to let it build momentum, and then Episode 8 will take it to the next phase.

But he's usually a short-lived villain, to keep the drama going and worse villains come out later. I think that's it, Tybalt will never be a villain as such, it has always been one of the humorous keys and changing him now as a serious villain would not work, nobody would believe it and honestly for me it would be a mistake.

Current obvious villians:

• Tybalt
• Burke
• Vinny

Who else is there to worry about?

• Quinn kinda was initially but that's calmed down.
• Maybe Buddy but I think he's on Quinn's side.

That's all I can think of.

Of all of them, Vinny is a wildcard and Burke has a lot of power...

 

[ExDeath730]

The thing is, he acts like "the richest."

And I'm pretty sure that's not the fact, given that Stephen is a stockbroker / professor and Jade is a full time professor. It's almost certain there that Rich is the more ,heh, rich one in that frat. Not to mention Jill herself.

Tybalt has all the trademark behaviours of someone acting larger than their means.

I have another theory on him. I don't think he is actually rich or even if he is, isn't from a traditional family.

He acts like some guys i knew, that their family are from the upper middle class, but because they are surrounded by rich people they try to fit in.

Notice that even that watch was fake. Something tells me that he uses high quality fake goods to maintain this appearance. Just notice that both Jade and Stephen do dress well, but not in an ostentatious way.

The other possibility is that he is from a new rich family. His ostentation is a way to show his status because he doesn't have the weight of a powerful last name.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Current obvious villians:

• Tybalt
• Burke
• Vinny

Who else is there to worry about?

• Quinn kinda was initially but that's calmed down.
• Maybe Buddy but I think he's on Quinn's side.

That's all I can think of.

Maya's dad is the main antagonist of M&J path.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Current obvious villians:

• Tybalt
• Burke
• Vinny

Who else is there to worry about?

• Quinn kinda was initially but that's calmed down.
• Maybe Buddy but I think he's on Quinn's side.

That's all I can think of.

Of all of them, Vinny is a wildcard and Burke has a lot of power...

Not exactly a villain, but I think we can throw Maya's dad in there? Since her plot is part of the main story. Also, Caleb is clearly a side villain, but he's our counterpart in the jocks and is being set up to be a thorn in our side.

Thats about it, really.

EDIT: I only just realized how good of a job DPC has done in giving us villains for the various levels of MC's life. Frat life-Caleb, Friends-Maya's dad, School life-Tybalt/Burke, Overall Meta-plot-Vinny/Burke. There's a nice set of tension on each level of the story.

 

[shazba]

Maya's dad is the main antagonist of M&J path.

Not exactly a villain, but I think we can throw Maya's dad in there? Since her plot is part of the main story. Also, Caleb is clearly a side villain, but he's our counterpart in the jocks and is being set up to be a thorn in our side.

Thats about it, really.

Totally forgot about that motherfucker. Yeah, he's a big issue as far as M&J are concerned.

 

[shazba]

EDIT: I only just realized how good of a job DPC has done in giving us villains for the various levels of MC's life. DIKs-Caleb, Friends-Maya's dad, School life-Tybalt/Burke, Overall Meta-plot-Vinny/Burke.

You're not allowed to say that. Remember, it's "bad writing", "DPC loves drama", "So many other games are much better written", "DPC is an ego maniac"...

Now that I've got that sarcasm out of my system... There is no other game on this site that has garnered anywhere near as large a response as this game. There are so many facets of the game that are fun to discuss.

EDIT: I don't think Caleb is a villain though, hes pretty cool. Comes across quite smart (compared to the rest of the Jocks), but he's been led astray by the Jocks stupid hate for the DIKs. I wanna see more scenes with him in it actually, was disappointed he only made a cameo in the intro of episode 6.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Current obvious villians:

• Tybalt
• Burke
• Vinny

Who else is there to worry about?

• Quinn kinda was initially but that's calmed down.
• Maybe Buddy but I think he's on Quinn's side.

That's all I can think of.

Of all of them, Vinny is a wildcard and Burke has a lot of power...

all theoretical enemies for now

We haven't seen Vinny do anything yet, it's all theory about him
for Burke there are seconds to the end of the last chapter, but still no direct action
at least we saw Tybalt talking to Jil ...


Maya's father is much more present and influential in history for now

Quinn remains a danger, direct or indirect, until proven otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

for Burke there are seconds to the end of the last chapter, but still no direct action

With Burke, its not even about the video. I'm not expecting that to have a big effect on the overall story since the option of not sharing the video is there. With Burke, its about how he's enabling the "free tuition". Tying him to Quinn. Which ties him to Quinn's gang... and Vinny. Which happens to be an ongoing subplot that is spinning out through the HOTs, DIKs, Jocks, and Maya.

To me, thats a neon arrow pointing to Burke/Vinny being big bads.

 

[shazba]

all theoretical enemies for now

We haven't seen Vinny do anything yet, it's all theory about him
for Burke there are seconds to the end of the last chapter, but still no direct action
at least we saw Tybalt talking to Jil ...


Maya's father is much more present and influential in history for now

Quinn remains a danger, direct or indirect, until proven otherwise.

I'd be seriously shocked if Vinny isn't responsible for trashing the DIKs mansion. Ep6 went overdrive introducing him to us (although he was already mentioned way back at the first Pink Rose visit). The stilted speech every time Nick mentions how Vinny left, and then the whole sneaky Nick bullshit when the laptop went missing, and then the surprisingly lack of damage done to Nick's room compared to everyone else. Nick even went as far as to ask the MC not to tell everyone about how he was "lucky" that his room wasn't so seriously trashed. We know Nick didn't trash the mansion since he was with the DIKs the whole time, and the Alphas would have to be utter meatheads to tag the building with their symbols - it was a total frame attempt.

Burke is so slimy, there's no way he's innocent. We know Mona didn't have a legitimate scholarship otherwise she wouldn't have even bothered prostituting herself out for the HOTs, she'd have no need for a HOTs sponsored tuition. So the Mona scholarship Burke was deleting was definitely bogus, and convincingly related to Quinn's prostitution ring. He's guilty as sin.

I hope Maya's dad is the first thing to be dealt with in Ep7. Getting sick of that fucker.

I agree Quinn is dangerous, in that shit may happen to her which will overflow onto others, but other than being a drug dealing, prostitute pimping, cunt of a woman, she's actually pretty nice.

 

[moskyx]

You're not allowed to say that. Remember, it's "bad writing", "DPC loves drama", "So many other games are much better written", "DPC is an ego maniac"...

Now that I've got that sarcasm out of my system... There is no other game on this site that has garnered anywhere near as large a response as this game. There are so many facets of the game that are fun to discuss.

EDIT: I don't think Caleb is a villain though, hes pretty cool. Comes across quite smart (compared to the rest of the Jocks), but he's been led astray by the Jocks stupid hate for the DIKs. I wanna see more scenes with him in it actually, was disappointed he only made a cameo in the intro of episode 6.

Good planning doesn't equal to good writing. Having 5 different levels of antagonists in a college-AVN setting actually shows how much he loves drama. And yep, there are games better written than this one (and with much better graphics, I'll add) and DPC come across kind of as an ego maniac, judging from how he manages his official channels.

But yeah, sarcasm is better in the outside

 

[felicemastronzo]

With Burke, its not even about the video. I'm not expecting that to have a big effect on the overall story since the option of not sharing the video is there. With Burke, its about how he's enabling the "free tuition". Tying him to Quinn. Which ties him to Quinn's gang... and Vinny. Which happens to be an ongoing subplot that is spinning out through the HOTs, DIKs, Jocks, and Maya.

To me, thats a neon arrow pointing to Burke/Vinny being big bads.

I was not talking about Jade's video (which being a serious fact, I hope it has consequences, but we are talking about a non-universal event), but about the canceled scholarships and her involvement, it is not known at what level, with the trafficking by Quinn

if Burke had only been a customer of the restaurant he would have confirmed his role as a slimy professor, instead if he has an active role in the restaurant tours this leads him to a promotion among the "enemies" of the story

but we are always in the field of theories. I would say that in BADIK's economy for now the only villain who played a major role in the plot was Quinn

 

[shazba]

Good planning doesn't equal to good writing. Having 5 different levels of antagonists in a college-AVN setting actually shows how much he loves drama. And yep, there are games better written than this one (and with much better graphics, I'll add) and DPC come across kind of as an ego maniac, judging from how he manages his official channels.

But yeah, sarcasm is better in the outside

I think I've played just about all the games that everyone keeps saying are better written than BaDIK, and I don't believe any of them are. Some of them have much better plots (BaDIK is just a goofy rom/com/drama). But none of them flow so effortlessly along. None of them have the laugh out loud comedy. None of them have the characters with self determined agency. None of them have me posting regularly on a forum thread. None of them have me waiting for the next update. If that's not a well written game, I think I would die if I found one.

I've definitely become a fan of the "No narration" style game. Games that are driven by character dialog alone. BaDIK does that perfectly I feel (I know others complain about exactly that).

The graphics are something I don't even care about. As long as the caricatures are endearing, it's easy to identify.

Anyway, we've all gone down this road before, and as has always been the case, we all seem to have a different opinion as to what good writing is. BaDIK is filled with identifiable cliches, hamfisted drama, and obvious comedy, but all of that has been written very well. Other games have excellent plots with very well defined branching, entirely realized unique lore, and overall direction that could make a great TV series or movie, but the actual writing is lackluster and does not demand you keep reading.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'd be seriously shocked if Vinny isn't responsible for trashing the DIKs mansion. Ep6 went overdrive introducing him to us (although he was already mentioned way back at the first Pink Rose visit). The stilted speech every time Nick mentions how Vinny left, and then the whole sneaky Nick bullshit when the laptop went missing, and then the surprisingly lack of damage done to Nick's room compared to everyone else. Nick even went as far as to ask the MC not to tell everyone about how he was "lucky" that his room wasn't so seriously trashed. We know Nick didn't trash the mansion since he was with the DIKs the whole time, and the Alphas would have to be utter meatheads to tag the building with their symbols - it was a total frame attempt.

Burke is so slimy, there's no way he's innocent. We know Mona didn't have a legitimate scholarship otherwise she wouldn't have even bothered prostituting herself out for the HOTs, she'd have no need for a HOTs sponsored tuition. So the Mona scholarship Burke was deleting was definitely bogus, and convincingly related to Quinn's prostitution ring. He's guilty as sin.

I hope Maya's dad is the first thing to be dealt with in Ep7. Getting sick of that fucker.

I agree Quinn is dangerous, in that shit may happen to her which will overflow onto others, but other than being a drug dealing, prostitute pimping, cunt of a woman, she's actually pretty nice.

I'm not saying it's not like that, but for now Vinny doesn't have a role, we haven't seen him do anything, we've only heard him repeatedly

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I was not talking about Jade's video (which being a serious fact, I hope it has consequences, but we are talking about a non-universal event), but about the canceled scholarships and her involvement, it is not known at what level, with the trafficking by Quinn

if Burke had only been a customer of the restaurant he would have confirmed his role as a slimy professor, instead if he has an active role in the restaurant tours this leads him to a promotion among the "enemies" of the story

but we are always in the field of theories. I would say that in BADIK's economy for now the only villain who played a major role in the plot was Quinn

Doesn't the whole "deleting Mona's scholarship" bit make him an active participant, and not just a customer? The scheme doesn't work without him.

But yeah, I get it. We need them to on-screen start some shit before we can definitively say they're villains.