I disagree. Leah was introduced as a nurse with a "Back to the Future"-esque crush on the MC, only to be revealed as serial killer in the last act. Vinny, on the other hand, was introduced as a hotheaded party animal who went on to became a drug dealer after 'leaving' college.
Obviously we'll have to see what role, if any, Vinny winds up having in this story. But in my book, a drug dealer taking revenge on his former associates for perceived wrongs is a far more logical outcome than a nurse staging an elaborate murder to force a guy she rarely interacts with to admit he loves her.
If this is the best he can do with regards to "revenge" then he might as well be a Looney Tunes villain because his plans would not only suck but also don't really do anything to severely impact the people he'd supposedly be getting revenge on.
If anything, I think Vinny will factor in to Quinn's story more than to the DIKs because I just think Vinny being in any way involved with the Cathy pic or anything like that seems too ham-fisted.
I don't know the origin of Jade's weird roleplay fascination (I said weird I didn't say I never tried it with her ), but the creepiness factor cranked up when I saw her with Tybalt at the party. What kind of bizarre home life must that be? Jade and Burke are either fighting or trying to set up threesomes. No wonder Tybalt is messed up. Those three are bad news for MC.
Do you guys think someone was watching Bella and MC during their intense and silent scene? Personally i think and I HOPE it's just DPC showing us different angles, someone watching them would add even more drama just for the sake of it
Nick definitely knows Vinny, they were best friends, and Nick himself said they keep seeing each other out of college
but even though Vinny is involved in the devastation of the DIK mansion, the Jocks are 100% too .. or Vinny is such a crime genius that he even secured a bunch of dildos to spread around (those dildos that Jocks and DIKs have traditionally exchanged for some time ...)
and the face Dawe makes when the DIKs go to the PREPs didn't bode well
Vinny being responsible for literally anything that has happened with the DIKs woud be an honest-to-God asspull of a plotline, even worse than the fire and psycho Leah.
The guy has been expelled from B&R, likely for getting caught dealing drugs, and maybe the DIKs weren't much help to him because they didnt wan't to get taken down with him, but the idea he would come back on to campus, break in to the mansion, gain access to the laptop, and post a naked picture of Cathy to get the DIKs in trouble is ridiculously lame. So too is the idea that he sent pictures to Chad, or he trashed the DIK mansion, or that he has someone like Nick helping him, because really, what's the point? To bring down the DIKs because they maybe didn't stand up for him? What actual good would that do? How pathetically petty is this guy? So they don't have a frat anymore, big deal, unless they were accused of doing something as bad as or worse than dealing drugs, they'd all still be able to stay at the college and finish their degrees, so not having a frat doesn't hurt them that much.
The whole "Vinny villain" theory in this context is weak sauce and he'd be a pretty pathetic bad guy character if this is what his role is.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I was asking, that if the Vinny destroyed the mansion theory is true - hence his untouched room, would it be more likely that Nick knows he did it, or just that he would suspect him of doing it. In other words, if Vinny is messing with the DIKs - how much does Nick know? That was more or less what I was wondering.
Of course, it could have been the jocks that trashed the place, but then why would Nick's room be untouched?
I disagree. Leah was introduced as a nurse with a "Back to the Future"-esque crush on the MC, only to be revealed as serial killer in the last act. Vinny, on the other hand, was introduced as a hotheaded party animal who went on to became a drug dealer after 'leaving' college.
Obviously we'll have to see what role, if any, Vinny winds up having in this story. But in my book, a drug dealer taking revenge on his former associates for perceived wrongs is a far more logical outcome than a nurse staging an elaborate murder to force a guy she rarely interacts with to admit he loves her.
If this is the best he can do with regards to "revenge" then he might as well be a Looney Tunes villain because his plans would not only suck but also don't really do anything to severely impact the people he'd supposedly be getting revenge on.
If anything, I think Vinny will factor in to Quinn's story more than to the DIKs because I just think Vinny being in any way involved with the Cathy pic or anything like that seems too ham-fisted.
I think Vinny definitely trashed the DIK Mansion. He pretty much formed the DIKs and then eventually he got ousted. He's a crazy motherfucker to start with, look what he did to the library when he was going to sleep there! Who knows, maybe he thought he was just renovating for the DIKs when he trashed the whole place... Anyway, there's obviously more to the story as to why he left the DIKs, but we know it wasn't on good terms.
Now regarding Nick, in the first freeroam at the DIK mansion after the trashing, everyone's pretty much moping in their rooms. Nick's room is right next to Jacobs, but you don't have to go into Nick's room because he's downstairs. But just compare Jacob's to Nick's room:
Jacob's room is totally trashed, they destroy all his artwork (fucking cunts), and graffitied the wall. Nick's room is fucking pristine. It's so fucking neat he should be expelled from the DIKs for being such an anally retentive neat motherfucker to start with!
You'll also notice during the mansion repair game, you don't have to do anything to Nick's room.
Now when the mc speaks to Nick during the second DIK mansion freeroam (the one where Jacob is painting again), Nick is studying in his room:
mc: "Dude, your room..."
Nick: "What about it?"
mc: "It's so clean!"
Nick: "Yeah, I was lucky. They barely touched it."
Nick: "I managed to clean it in a few hours."
mc: "Congratulations."
Nick: "Thanks! Don't tell the others though."
mc: "That it's clean?"
Nick: "Yeah, I don't wanna rub it in. Especially to Jacob..."
mc: "Yeah, it's horrible what they did to his drawings."
Nick: "Yeah. I gave him a gift card to the art store he loves."
Nick: "I hope it gets him going again."
mc: "That's nice of you."
Feeling guilty much, motherfucker! He lies to the mc, it didn't take him a few hours, it was pristine to begin with!
I'd say he didn't orchestrate the trashing, and he probably feels bad about it, but he definitely knows who did. Vinny the cunt!
I don't know the origin of Jade's weird roleplay fascination (I said weird I didn't say I never tried it with her ), but the creepiness factor cranked up when I saw her with Tybalt at the party. What kind of bizarre home life must that be? Jade and Burke are either fighting or trying to set up threesomes. No wonder Tybalt is messed up. Those three are bad news for MC.
I reckon that roleplay actually matters. The MC's face wouldn't have been in the video, and if Jade was calling him "son" rather than "fuckface", Burke may not have known who was fucking his wife. However, if the mc didn't go for the roleplay, there's only one student on the register called "fuckface"...
actually i do not believe Jacob paintings got destroyed! the dude who went to trash his place is Anthony who´s a sensitive dude and he probably saved the paintings if they where any good! We will discover them when Ashley gets a painting as a present for her birthday! and then a massive infiltration operation to recover Jacob´s paintings! now that is an adventure! As for Caleb as stated in one of my deleted posts a massive rumble in the hexagon 1 vs 1 where Caleb is the final boss!
you see a few papers in the floor and i assume those are the sketches but there´s no trashed paintings!
Sorry to break this to you, but that means nothing. In fact Quinn was in the banner with other LI's BEFORE Jill even existed all the way back to during the planning stage of v0.1. That still didn't make her an LI.
Sorry to break this to you, but that means nothing. In fact Quinn was in the banner with other LI's BEFORE Jill even existed all the way back to during the planning stage of v0.1. That still didn't make her an LI.
Probably DPC would say at that time to put her as LI or not, "I'm going to kill her anyway, if I put her as LI they will criticize me again better I leave her as a side girl I'll kill her and everyone is happy I don't touch any LI this time "
Sorry to break this to you, but that means nothing. In fact Quinn was in the banner with other LI's BEFORE Jill even existed all the way back to during the planning stage of v0.1. That still didn't make her an LI.
Sorry to break this to you, but that means nothing. In fact Quinn was in the banner with other LI's BEFORE Jill even existed all the way back to during the planning stage of v0.1. That still didn't make her an LI.
If this is the best he can do with regards to "revenge" then he might as well be a Looney Tunes villain because his plans would not only suck but also don't really do anything to severely impact the people he'd supposedly be getting revenge on.
If anything, I think Vinny will factor in to Quinn's story more than to the DIKs because I just think Vinny being in any way involved with the Cathy pic or anything like that seems too ham-fisted.
I think Vinny definitely trashed the DIK Mansion. He pretty much formed the DIKs and then eventually he got ousted. He's a crazy motherfucker to start with, look what he did to the library when he was going to sleep there! Who knows, maybe he thought he was just renovating for the DIKs when he trashed the whole place... Anyway, there's obviously more to the story as to why he left the DIKs, but we know it wasn't on good terms.
Now regarding Nick, in the first freeroam at the DIK mansion after the trashing, everyone's pretty much moping in their rooms. Nick's room is right next to Jacobs, but you don't have to go into Nick's room because he's downstairs. But just compare Jacob's to Nick's room:
Jacob's room is totally trashed, they destroy all his artwork (fucking cunts), and graffitied the wall. Nick's room is fucking pristine. It's so fucking neat he should be expelled from the DIKs for being such an anally retentive neat motherfucker to start with!
You'll also notice during the mansion repair game, you don't have to do anything to Nick's room.
Now when the mc speaks to Nick during the second DIK mansion freeroam (the one where Jacob is painting again), Nick is studying in his room:
mc: "Dude, your room..."
Nick: "What about it?"
mc: "It's so clean!"
Nick: "Yeah, I was lucky. They barely touched it."
Nick: "I managed to clean it in a few hours."
mc: "Congratulations."
Nick: "Thanks! Don't tell the others though."
mc: "That it's clean?"
Nick: "Yeah, I don't wanna rub it in. Especially to Jacob..."
mc: "Yeah, it's horrible what they did to his drawings."
Nick: "Yeah. I gave him a gift card to the art store he loves."
Nick: "I hope it gets him going again."
mc: "That's nice of you."
Feeling guilty much, motherfucker! He lies to the mc, it didn't take him a few hours, it was pristine to begin with!
I'd say he didn't orchestrate the trashing, and he probably feels bad about it, but he definitely knows who did. Vinny the cunt!
I think DPC is working Vinny up too close to this for his story involvement to be unrelated to the mansion trashing/sabotage. Between what shazba pointed out and the character parallels between Vinny and the MC that DPC paints (flashback scene that results in the shiner from Tommy), this seems to track consistently to that end.
That being said, if Vinny becomes the main “climax” villain of this story, I would be very disappointed. Unlike Leah in AL coming out of left field, we can track Vinny’s actions way back in the story. Also like Holy Bacchus pointed out, his actions wouldn’t give a huge ‘splash’ we’re expecting for a climax.
Still, the fact DPC keeps parrelleling the MC and Vinny with regard to the DIKs though is too much for me to pass up. There’s a connection there.
After the math class where Cathy is all quiet and furious, and everyone is silent, Derek says I'm gonna take a nap.
Later MC finds him climbing out of the basement, where Derek says he's been napping and taking a shit, to which MC correctly points out that there is no bathroom there.
So my question / speculation is this:
Did Derek start using hard drugs taken from Tommy's stash? What's with the sudden sleepiness and the downer attitude, you can't simply explain that away by heartbreak.
After the math class where Cathy is all quiet and furious, and everyone is silent, Derek says I'm gonna take a nap.
Later MC finds him climbing out of the basement, where Derek says he's been napping and taking a shit, to which MC correctly points out that there is no bathroom there.
So my question / speculation is this:
Did Derek start using hard drugs taken from Tommy's stash? What's with the sudden sleepiness and the downer attitude, you can't simply explain that away by heartbreak.
Speaking of this. Do you guys think DPC is going to address this and do a withdrawal arc with Tommy or something? He went from getting weed and whatever those injections were to completely cutting off his dealer. He might still have a bit of a stash left, but surely he'll run out and start jonesing. Or maybe withdrawal will cause Tommy to do some dumb shit? Might be easy pickings for Vinny to manipulate him.
After the math class where Cathy is all quiet and furious, and everyone is silent, Derek says I'm gonna take a nap.
Later MC finds him climbing out of the basement, where Derek says he's been napping and taking a shit, to which MC correctly points out that there is no bathroom there.
So my question / speculation is this:
Did Derek start using hard drugs taken from Tommy's stash? What's with the sudden sleepiness and the downer attitude, you can't simply explain that away by heartbreak.
and not just now, following Ashley (who is dating Anthony and potentially got licked by MC).
like all clowns, inside he is very sad, not motivated
in his first weeks of college he had sex with Arieth (but only as Jacob's second pilot), with the retired professor and with Wendy ... really great stories to tell friends. he has a list of goals that he does nothing but eliminate ...
he may have fallen into the drug abyss (I don't think Tommy would let him know about the trafficking), but in my opinion the depression is enough to explain his situation
I think Vinny definitely trashed the DIK Mansion. He pretty much formed the DIKs and then eventually he got ousted. He's a crazy motherfucker to start with, look what he did to the library when he was going to sleep there! Who knows, maybe he thought he was just renovating for the DIKs when he trashed the whole place... Anyway, there's obviously more to the story as to why he left the DIKs, but we know it wasn't on good terms.
Now regarding Nick, in the first freeroam at the DIK mansion after the trashing, everyone's pretty much moping in their rooms. Nick's room is right next to Jacobs, but you don't have to go into Nick's room because he's downstairs. But just compare Jacob's to Nick's room:
Jacob's room is totally trashed, they destroy all his artwork (fucking cunts), and graffitied the wall. Nick's room is fucking pristine. It's so fucking neat he should be expelled from the DIKs for being such an anally retentive neat motherfucker to start with!
You'll also notice during the mansion repair game, you don't have to do anything to Nick's room.
Now when the mc speaks to Nick during the second DIK mansion freeroam (the one where Jacob is painting again), Nick is studying in his room:
mc: "Dude, your room..."
Nick: "What about it?"
mc: "It's so clean!"
Nick: "Yeah, I was lucky. They barely touched it."
Nick: "I managed to clean it in a few hours."
mc: "Congratulations."
Nick: "Thanks! Don't tell the others though."
mc: "That it's clean?"
Nick: "Yeah, I don't wanna rub it in. Especially to Jacob..."
mc: "Yeah, it's horrible what they did to his drawings."
Nick: "Yeah. I gave him a gift card to the art store he loves."
Nick: "I hope it gets him going again."
mc: "That's nice of you."
Feeling guilty much, motherfucker! He lies to the mc, it didn't take him a few hours, it was pristine to begin with!
I'd say he didn't orchestrate the trashing, and he probably feels bad about it, but he definitely knows who did. Vinny the cunt!
we try to analyze the devastation of the DIK mansion as if it were a murder in a thriller.
evidence against the JOCKs:
- they have the motive
- they knew when to do it
- they had the dildos to return
evidence in defense:
- the Jocks should have avoided putting themselves at risk of further disciplinary sanctions (could the far-sighted Dawe have made such a mistake?)
Evidence against Vinny:
- perhaps has a motive (but much weaker than that of the Jocks)
- Nick's room has been safeguarded (making him the prime suspect of being the mole, at a time when the DIKs fear there is one for other reasons as well)
- if Nick is his mole, he knew when to act
evidence in defense:
- no one could have known that this time Rusty's father would have pulled back, so potentially it could be just a small setback, but still it remains a childish and trivial revenge.
- presumably he didn't have dildos (did the Jocks give them to him? we don't know any correlation between them and Vinny)
the only real evidence against Vinny is Nick's room, which immediately becomes a terribly stupid and narratively ostentatious move.
either an important reason is revealed or it is all very circumstantial evidence, with the main explanation that Vinny is crazy ... and therefore he can do anything
and not just now, following Ashley (who is dating Anthony and potentially got licked by MC).
like all clowns, inside he is very sad, not motivated
in his first weeks of college he had sex with Arieth (but only as Jacob's second pilot), with the retired professor and with Wendy ... really great stories to tell friends. he has a list of goals that he does nothing but eliminate ...
he may have fallen into the drug abyss (I don't think Tommy would let him know about the trafficking), but in my opinion the depression is enough to explain his situation
