I just replayed that scene for a 7th playtrough today and it's quite surprising to see how react Jill, but i don't think we should see too much here, it's more just a way that DPC used to show us that there is some challenge with Tybalt. Make the MC a little jalous especially after beeing totally ignored during the conversation between Jill and Tybalt.
In this game we try much too hard to find clues or hidden motives, the story is mostly quite simple with a lot of plot holes or inconsistancies.
It does not make that story bad, it's just a story written day after day during a long period of time with adjustments, DPC a done a great job in the depiction of characters and their relations, but many aspects of the story are weak, so we should not see too much in a simple scene like that and write a whole book about it!
our opinions about the characters arise from their behaviour and/or the size of their boobs.
so you can't disregard what they do, otherwise we'll just have to make volumetric evaluations.
if a behaviour is repeated I assume it's part of the character, or at least part of the way DPC wants us to know about it
Tybalt doesn't generate any jealousy, he doesn't have any prerequisites, I'm surprised that in the shower scene they didn't show him as Ken from Barbie, completely demasculated, instead at the end he has the same intimate qualities of Derek
I dont blame Quinn for liying. If you blame her for anything, that lie is defenetely not an issue. It's simple that you cant blame Maya for being angry if she is being lied right in the face. Specially since Mona it's obviously scared. Maybe the "smart" move is not getting angry and hit her in the face, but it is the most satisfactory for sure.
About Maya being an idiot... well but you said that because we know what the free tuition was, and that was illigal. In Maya's shoes she didnt knew what was going on. She knew Quinn hate her, she knew was being lied and she was angry for that.
Yeah, she tried to do a scandal. Yeah, that's usually not the smart move. But, what was she going to loose at that point? At best is an emotional move. Emotional means stupid? I disagree. Look at SSheldon Cooper.
Yes,i can totally say "That's the story", Shazba. The issue here is that Maya is not meant to be stupid. Arieth is ment to be stupid, Anthony and Dawe are meant to be stupid, Derek meant to be silly, Jill naive... but Maya dont. Weak perhaps but not stupid. That's the story.
To say: "Maya is stupid" is to rebel against the story, to argue against it. Not that's bad, i hated a series of books once, i was really angry against them, but my opinions werent cannon, couse i was simple trashing the story. I didn't blame the characters, i blamed the author. It was her fault.
That's why i bring Josy, MC, and the campus involvement. Is not to blame other characters. My idea was to prove that Maya is not meant to be. If Maya is stupid couse she thought he could get away with the free tuition without doing anything (that's what i meant for free), then the MC is even more stupid... or he is really an ashole. But, is he? I don't think so.
And if the MC is neither stupid or an ashole then Maya isn't. If you still find Maya to be stupid, ok. You have a good argument. But since she is not meant to be... then it's DPC fault. And then it's either we sayd, this story is completele full of stupid people or we sayd, you know what, i dont care, in this fictional world it has sense.
Episode 7 spent some time saying that Sage is smart. But is she? She was in a 1 or 2 years relationship with a gay, never noticed. She trust an obvious deceptive drug delear. Is she stupid? Well in real world for sure, but in this game she is not.
Quinn is another example. She screw her best client in a difficult economic moment without any reason. We have talk about Jill, also being stupid. Jade let the MC film her during sex with a student, right afer Cathy incident. Bella slept in the DIK mansion with a student after Cathy incident. Thats bloody stupid. Is Bella meant to be stupid? Ofc not.
So yeah, they are all stupid. Or neither of them are, is just a story who takes some freedom.
that they are all stupid seems a better solution to you? the story is not made to make Maya look stupid but to get her in trouble all the time
MC only knows about free tuition from Maya's words, he has no other direct contact with the matter, could he have informed himself instead of Maya? probably yes, but then we have to establish that Maya could have done so too.
Josy ditto I'd say, and considering her reaction at the end of the 6th chapter she's not shown as convinced, in the end "it was just a rumor".
but once you get around the most extreme points on the list, why would MC and Josy stop her? Josy had fun and wanted to get into HOTs, MC doesn't have a television, has never seen an air-conditioned car and should have crushed Maya's dream?
The best solution is to say, it is just a story who takes some freedoms. The second one is to say its a stupid story who fail in portray reasonable people, therefore there are all stupid. The worst is to say Maya is stupid in a story with normal or clever people. The first has sense and let you to happy enjoy the story. The second one has some sense but the story unnecesary loose some charm. The third one is to create your own story and miss what is happening(edited).
MC only knows about free tuition from Maya's words, he has no other direct contact with the matter, could he have informed himself instead of Maya? probably yes, but then we have to establish that Maya could have done so too.
MC has other advantages that Maya doesn't. First he knows the restaurant. You connect the odds, HOT's pay her students the tuition, where they get the money? They prostitute themselfs. He also talks all the time with every HOT starting with her president. There is at least some level of trust.
Josy ditto I'd say, and considering her reaction at the end of the 6th chapter she's not shown as convinced, in the end "it was just a rumor".
but once you get around the most extreme points on the list, why would MC and Josy stop her? Josy had fun and wanted to get into HOTs, MC doesn't have a television, has never seen an air-conditioned car and should have crushed Maya's dream?
If you see Josy at the end of chapter 4 she seems quite excited that the MC is going to help them with the scavenger hunt. Maya problem is also her problem couse it's her relationship wich is at risk.
Well they would stop her for the same reason she should stop, couse it was a doomed plan. None of them take any precaution.
At the end of the day, it was just ment to find a narrative structure. It allows DPC to buid Maya-Quinn conflict, to still make Maya do the scavenger hunt and eventually join the HOT's, wich is comming next episodes.
Any one know the name of the piano piece/song used in Jill's Night scene in Episode 7. Where she's imagining the the whole cherry popping scenario? No results on Shazam.
Here you go. Most music from season 2 are premium music and they aren't meant to be released to the public. Lucky, for us we have friendly people on YouTube.
The whole thing is pretty much Maya's own fault. She received just as much info as Mona and yet Mona was able to follow up and find out exactly was what involved. She later obviously regretted getting involved, but it wasn't like she was entirely duped into it.
Maya on the other hand got it in her head that all she had to do was pass the initiation and she'd have all her tuition paid. The exchange after the throuple is formed cements that understanding:
Josy: "All right...but Fuckface knows why you're pledging the HOTs, right?"
mc: "Yeah, I know she needs the free tuition."
mc: "Is that why you do it, too?"
Josy: "I'm not gonna lie...I'd love to be in a sorority..."
Josy: "...but helping Maya is the real reason."
Josy: "As you know, my dad already saved up for my tuition... I just need to get a hold of that money."
Josy: "I kinda left without even talking to him..."
Josy: "So, if I get his money plus the money from the HOTs...this will all be over."
Josy: "We just need to do that...um...scavenger hunt."
Maya: "He knows about it..."
Maya: "He's even offered to help me with that list..."
Maya: "...and he already has."
Josy: "That's awesome! Then we're totally gonna make it!"
Josy: "You'll help us with completing that list, right?"
mc: "Have you seen what's on that list? There are so many sexual tasks on it."
Josy: "Yeah, I know. It's crazy..."
Josy: "...but it's for free tuition..."
Josy: "...do you even realize how much money that is?"
strange = Josy: "As you know, my dad already saved up for my tuition... I just need to get a hold of that money."
why would 18 year old trust her parent about money for college? i mean maya must feel so stupid co signing loan
with her dad . Seems like crazy thing to do .
Right after Quinn's assault, when she talks to Riona, she says:
"And given how it worked out with her ... (she talks about Mona)
... you should drop Maya before you even attempt something. "
At this point, Quinn still thinks she can get Maya involved.
I think there are several different things about Quinn's scheming. First the restaurant, which brings in a little bit of money for the girls and Quinn, but clearly it is not enough to pay all the school fees of several students.
Besides, there would be something else with Burke involving scholarship shenanigans. When a girl is in dire need of a scholarship, Quinn has a solution with Burke. Now, it remains to be seen what it is exactly, why Burke is involved (he's just a pervert, or there's blackmail), how it works, ...
Here you go. Most music from season 2 are premium music and they aren't meant to be released to the public. Lucky, for us we have friendly people on YouTube.
Any one know the name of the piano piece/song used in Jill's Night scene in Episode 7. Where she's imagining the the whole cherry popping scenario? No results on Shazam.
Right after Quinn's assault, when she talks to Riona, she says:
"And given how it worked out with her ... (she talks about Mona)
... you should drop Maya before you even attempt something. "
At this point, Quinn still thinks she can get Maya involved.
I think there are several different things about Quinn's scheming. First the restaurant, which brings in a little bit of money for the girls and Quinn, but clearly it is not enough to pay all the school fees of several students.
Besides, there would be something else with Burke involving scholarship shenanigans. When a girl is in dire need of a scholarship, Quinn has a solution with Burke. Now, it remains to be seen what it is exactly, why Burke is involved (he's just a pervert, or there's blackmail), how it works, ...
Quinn has never planned to pay Hots' tuitions... She just needs money (a lot) for something we don't know yet. That's why she agreed to sell coke... Riona tries to keep the business small but Quinn seems to need a lot more. Maybe she owes a lot to someone (Burke ? a drug dealer ? another guy ???).
Even Heather doesn't understand why the HOTS needs so much money and ask Riona about that.
Burke seems to be more than just a pervert.
The whole thing is pretty much Maya's own fault. She received just as much info as Mona and yet Mona was able to follow up and find out exactly was what involved. She later obviously regretted getting involved, but it wasn't like she was entirely duped into it.
Maya on the other hand got it in her head that all she had to do was pass the initiation and she'd have all her tuition paid. The exchange after the throuple is formed cements that understanding:
Josy: "All right...but Fuckface knows why you're pledging the HOTs, right?"
mc: "Yeah, I know she needs the free tuition."
mc: "Is that why you do it, too?"
Josy: "I'm not gonna lie...I'd love to be in a sorority..."
Josy: "...but helping Maya is the real reason."
Josy: "As you know, my dad already saved up for my tuition... I just need to get a hold of that money."
Josy: "I kinda left without even talking to him..."
Josy: "So, if I get his money plus the money from the HOTs...this will all be over."
Josy: "We just need to do that...um...scavenger hunt."
Maya: "He knows about it..."
Maya: "He's even offered to help me with that list..."
Maya: "...and he already has."
Josy: "That's awesome! Then we're totally gonna make it!"
Josy: "You'll help us with completing that list, right?"
mc: "Have you seen what's on that list? There are so many sexual tasks on it."
Josy: "Yeah, I know. It's crazy..."
Josy: "...but it's for free tuition..."
Josy: "...do you even realize how much money that is?"
It's totally ridiculous that she did the whole thing on assumption. Mona isn't portrayed as the sharpest tool in the shed (that'd be Bella's axe...) but if she can work it out, Maya doesn't really have an excuse for being so stupid.
We could suggest that her desperation led her to jumping to the wrong conclusion, but she's got Josy and the mc on her team, both of which should have thought, "So you just jump through a few hoops, and you get possibly tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars tuition paid? That sounds a little sus, maybe you should clarify that..."
Nope, they done fucked up.
Quinn couldn't give a fuck about Maya, she probably didn't even realize Maya had jumped to this conclusion. Mona would have come to her after the pool scene and it probably went something like this:
Mona: "So, what do I have to do to get this free tuition".
Quinn: "It's sex for cash, baby. You work our glory hole circuit, you cover some of your tuition, or if you want, you can fuck guys and have the whole debt paid off".
Mona: "Man, I fuck guys for free, I'm in!"
Quinn: "So you're cool with that. I don't need to remind you that you don't talk about this."
Mona: "Sure! Man... Getting paid to fuck guys, who woulda thought that'd be an option in life."
Quinn: "Yeah, isn't life full of surprises..."
Maya never came back to her so Quinn probably dropped it. So when Maya confronted Quinn at the HOTs night, Quinn was caught off guard, but of course she had to deny it in front of the entire sorority, even if Sage wasn't there, not all the girls are in on it, or would agree with it.
Sure, Quinn is a bitch, but the tuition is real, Mel, Sarah, Riona, Cammy and momentarily Mona were all beneficiaries of the system. She didn't trick Maya, she just didn't spell it out. All Maya had to do was ask Quinn about it directly. That's on Maya.
Doesn't mean I don't feel for Maya and her plight. To her, life just keeps giving her lemons...
I'm %100 sure if Maya knew what was required for "free" tuition, she'd talk to the authorities right away, like an impostor among us.
IF she had the courage to do it tho, not sure if she would've take the initiative if she knew what was the requirement.
So, proven otherwise, I hereby call Maya sussy baka. She's been acting sus lately
I'm %100 sure if Maya knew what was required for "free" tuition, she'd talk to the authorities right away, like an impostor among us.
IF she had the courage to do it tho, not sure if she would've take the initiative if she knew what was the requirement.
So, proven otherwise, I hereby call Maya sussy baka. She's been acting sus lately
Quinn has never planned to pay Hots' tuitions... She just needs money (a lot) for something we don't know yet. That's why she agreed to sell coke... Riona tries to keep the business small but Quinn seems to need a lot more. Maybe she owes a lot to someone (Burke ? a drug dealer ? another guy ???).
Even Heather doesn't understand why the HOTS needs so much money and ask Riona about that.
Burke seems to be more than just a pervert.
From what I understand, prostitution brings pocket money, and enough to cover the money that each member (of the restaurant) owes to the HOTs.
Quinn and Riona's part is invested in drugs in order to generate even more money. Quinn tells Riona that college won't allow them to live (no graduation at the end of it), so the drug money will be used to support them.
Quinn wants to expand the activities (more girls in the restaurant, more drug deals) to have more money for after college.
Then we have Mona's scholarship (and potentially one for Maya). It's obtained via Burke (we don't know how exactly). Quinn isn't doing it out of the goodness of her soul, either there is some hidden motive, or more simply it's a way for her to have full control of the girl to make more money out of her.
Right after Quinn's assault, when she talks to Riona, she says:
"And given how it worked out with her ... (she talks about Mona)
... you should drop Maya before you even attempt something. "
At this point, Quinn still thinks she can get Maya involved.
I think there are several different things about Quinn's scheming. First the restaurant, which brings in a little bit of money for the girls and Quinn, but clearly it is not enough to pay all the school fees of several students.
Besides, there would be something else with Burke involving scholarship shenanigans. When a girl is in dire need of a scholarship, Quinn has a solution with Burke. Now, it remains to be seen what it is exactly, why Burke is involved (he's just a pervert, or there's blackmail), how it works, ...
She's got a source of income, a mutually beneficial relationship with the professors, subordinates that'll listen to her as long as the order is within their job scope, and a trustworthy lackey, Riona (who's probably not gonna be as trustworthy now since she's getting closer to the MC).
I'm personally not a fan of Quinn due to the fact that she's hiding way too many dark secrets, has an incredibly aggressive personality and seems to treat the people around her as disposables. I can understand why people like her, since her character is slowly developing and she starts opening up to the MC. She's making herself vulnerable to someone when she doesn't like to have weaknesses, thus showing a softer, more loving side to the MC.
However, I just can't bring myself to like her after knowing just how much of a schemer she is, and how she doesn't take responsibility for her actions and brushes them off. I do think she might feel some hint of remorse, but it still doesn't excuse her from taking responsibility. Case in point, her being the person in charge of telling the DIKs that their deal was off.
Anyway, strayed off topic there for a bit, but I doubt the cash she rakes in is for any of the HOTs, it's probably mostly for herself. From Episode 6, we do know that she's involved with a drug cartel, and there's a mentally ill woman that lives in their site of operations. There's a possibility that the woman in question is her mother, and she's doing the work so that she can afford to send her mother to a hospital. Again, just a possibility.
As for Burke, her deal with him might've started way before we entered B&R. Without knowing the specifics, we can't infer too much, but I do agree that he's a pervert that preys on college girls in exchange for a tuition offer to help out with their financial status. We've seen in the scene with Stephen and Jade that he didn't deny having sex with 3 college girls when Jade asked him about it. She knows this isn't the first time something like this has happened, thus making me think that Stephen has no remorse for his actions though it seems like he does. Not sure if she's tried taking action, guess we'll just have to see what the future has in store for us.
Although his actions are morally questionable, I'm unsure of whether it's illegal for such an exchange to be made, thus I think I'd need someone else to shed light on this issue.
for someone big on mommy i find ur placemnt of Jade and Bella kind of low ... move em up one spot
and give sandra a chance . with brests like those she'll make great mommy
No, that’s a different song from a different artist bro. This one is great too, but he asked for the "cherry-popping" fantasy song not the kissing in the rain song. So many dramatic piano music with Jill
No, that’s a different song from a different artist bro. This one is great too, but he asked for the "cherry-popping" fantasy song not the kissing in the rain song. So many dramatic piano music with Jill
Here you go. Most music from season 2 are premium music and they aren't meant to be released to the public. Lucky, for us we have friendly people on YouTube.
I was trying to follow the handbag theory but I got lost in the Josy twin theory, and finally Becky distracted me, damn she bangin.
Also I don't think it makes sense for Burke to be in a student stall to begin with getting a blowjob, even less sense having sex with someone in the same stall.
The best solution is to say, it is just a story who takes some freedoms. The second one is to say its a stupid story who fail in portray reasonable people, therefore there are all stupid. The worst is to say Maya is stupid in a story with normal or clever people. The first has sense and let you to happy enjoy the story. The second one has some sense but the story unnecesary loose some charm. The third one is to create your own story and miss what is happening(edited).
for me the story told is always right, what is shown to me is the reality of the character, there is nothing else
Derek's an idiot not just because it's the comic moment.
Maya needs someone to assist her in everything not just because she's the damsel in distress in the story
Jill trusts Tybalt
Sage trusts Quinn
Bella is the worst best friend ever
otherwise it all becomes a means to an end and then we're talking about vaginas looking for reasons to stick it in MC's dick.
MC has other advantages that Maya doesn't. First he knows the restaurant. You connect the odds, HOT's pay her students the tuition, where they get the money? They prostitute themselfs. He also talks all the time with every HOT starting with her president. There is at least some level of trust.
and in fact Mc warns her, tells her that Quinn uses the girls, does not mention the restaurant explicitly but warns her more than clearly. but it's useless, because Maya doesn't have a plan B and then pushed by Josy's arrival she comes back to fully believe in free tuition and therefore in who offers it to her.
If you see Josy at the end of chapter 4 she seems quite excited that the MC is going to help them with the scavenger hunt. Maya problem is also her problem couse it's her relationship wich is at risk.
Well they would stop her for the same reason she should stop, couse it was a doomed plan. None of them take any precaution.
At the end of the day, it was just ment to find a narrative structure. It allows DPC to buid Maya-Quinn conflict, to still make Maya do the scavenger hunt and eventually join the HOT's, wich is comming next episodes.
Neither Josy nor MC have a better plan. Completing the scavenger hunt is not a problem, so why should they be the ones to stop it?
Josy wants to become a HOT, why should she give it up? By abandoning the scavenger hunt she could never be part of it.
Should Mc refuse to help her? So he should be blamed for not getting free tuition?
Maya isn't stupid but she isn't disabled either, and they aren't her guardians.
if i quit my job tomorrow and decide to become an AVN developer without having the skills would it be my fault or the fault of whoever doesn't stop me?
From what I understand, prostitution brings pocket money, and enough to cover the money that each member (of the restaurant) owes to the HOTs.
Quinn and Riona's part is invested in drugs in order to generate even more money. Quinn tells Riona that college won't allow them to live (no graduation at the end of it), so the drug money will be used to support them.
Quinn wants to expand the activities (more girls in the restaurant, more drug deals) to have more money for after college.
Then we have Mona's scholarship (and potentially one for Maya). It's obtained via Burke (we don't know how exactly). Quinn isn't doing it out of the goodness of her soul, either there is some hidden motive, or more simply it's a way for her to have full control of the girl to make more money out of her.
Does she want Maya in the restaurant? Is that why she decides to make her hate her? How is she going to convince her to do something so extreme?
in quinn's plans maya is supposed to fail the scavenger hunt, how convenient would it be to have a restaurant girl out of HOTs? Maya would be the only one in that situation
So maybe the scavenger hunt is a test to see if she's really motivated? But then that doesn't explain Quinn's subsequent behaviour which remains highly aggressive towards her.
and in fact Mc warns her, tells her that Quinn uses the girls, does not mention the restaurant explicitly but warns her more than clearly. but it's useless, because Maya doesn't have a plan B and then pushed by Josy's arrival she comes back to fully believe in free tuition and therefore in who offers it to her.
It happens in the CHICK path ONLY. He doesn't explicitly warn her in the DIK path.
I guess some people - mostly Quinn's fans who dislike Maya - just don't want to understand why Josy and Maya reject MC in the DIK path.
I wonder why a lot of players don't realize how the story and the MC is different when you choose to go massive DIK as compared to when you choose to go massive CHICK: the MC is a totally different dude. Totally. Maya nor Josy can't love nor trust a MC who is a massive DIK.
