VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[AchedCroissant]

One of the most important assets of a good leader is not to fuck every girl insight. That's not a leader material, is an aashole who most of people wants to break his head. Licking Ashley pussy, fucking Heather, fucking Maya and Josy... that wouldnt work. And you can see the results... the whole fucking Arieth almoast detroy the DIKs.

Leader is a person who, with training in project leadership or not, managing a specific team or group of people, is capable of influencing, motivating and making all team members work with enthusiasm focused every day on achieving achievements. goals and objectives.

 

[Laport Deminis]

OK. You are talking about things that would do a MASSIVE DIK. We have already said that that's not the premise. I said in my previous comments that the more logical path for the MC would be start like a CHIK at first, and after the first week more o less, slowly (at first) evolve to a DIK, not a MASSIVE DIK or a HUGE DIK. That's the premise we were debating about.

And once you take out the unnecesary sheet against Josy and Maya, the whole chick into dik thing has some sense. But the leader thing... Maybe a moderate DIK, and mostly couse its part of that subgroup culture, to fit in. But one of the most important traits of a leader of that dimension, of a small group of people with no clear jearchy is to not be selfish. You need to compensate couse people already resent you couse your position.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Excuse me if this has already been answered, but can we get Lily if MC is a Pure CHICK ? and are there some advantages if MC is Chick instead of Dik when pursuing Lily?
My sincere thanks to everyone who answered.

Yes, you can get the blowbjob for free with a chick affinity in ep5 during the prep party. You won't be able to help her with her task in ep6 but you'll have the opportunity to fuck her in ep7, if you previously kissed her in ep5.

 

[ChipLecsap]

but to be fair, that is the only CHICK decision that brings advantages with DIKs.
and it's also a decision that DPC urges you to reject (if you give me a VIP pass, it makes me curious to find out what I'll find there)

In the other cases it tends to be the DIK decisions that pay more in terms of the esteem of the DIK brothers:
beating up a Jock is always a merit
celebrating madly at the pink rose leads to get Nichole's autograph
accepting a joint from Tommy leads to public sex.
Accepting Jade's courtship leads to sex with a teacher.
Also in chapter seven, kicking the Jocks out of the party allows Jacob to have fun.


it's hard to imagine that the DIKS would prefer an MC who behaves in the opposite way.

I find mindern 's hypothesis interesting, I don't believe in it very much, but it would be a really nice twist if at a certain point the DIKs in front of an excessively nonchalant MC would turn their backs on him and choose Tommy, because crazy for crazy we might as well choose the one with the most seniority

I disagree. The major problem with this analysis is what MandalayRoad doing. Identifying the Delta Iota Kappa aka Dik, with the Dik affinity scale . and I seem to remember we come to the conclusion it's not the case . surely, the decisions you mentioned are having an effect on the other members, thanks to the fact that they are a bunch of pussy. to them some of these actions are impressive because they don't have the balls to do it. We got Jamie as a member, who dating with a feminist, basically a beta around her, writing poets , and he is a gardener.
But a chick MC who stand up and tell them this is how we got the shit done , opposing to Tommy whose solution is "Demand more money from your Dad", would not be respected is not believable to me, based on the actual members of the Dik fraternity.

The idea of MC start as a Chick and end up as a Dik , is something I dont see. MC start from Zero, and he gain confident regardless of him getting his cock signed by a striper or not . Hell, even the moment when MC stand up, and go visit Cathy to try to fix things, is more of a Chick mature person actions, and not a "I'm here for the pussy " Dik personality .

There are things in the game that make more sense if you play in a certain way, The Josy & Maya thing makes more sense if you are indeed on their path, otherwise you can kind of feel like, why the fuck I need to bother with this. Jill Tennis date with Tybalt, is kind of the same . So yeah there are these things, but the Chick, Neutral, Dik affinity things is not one of them, because the Dik scale, is not represent the Dik fraternity. That is not what the story is about.

 

[ezio2310]

Nice game.I can't wait next Ep.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I disagree. The major problem with this analysis is what MandalayRoad doing. Identifying the Delta Iota Kappa aka Dik, with the Dik affinity scale . and I seem to remember we come to the conclusion it's not the case . surely, the decisions you mentioned are having an effect on the other members, thanks to the fact that they are a bunch of pussy. to them some of these actions are impressive because they don't have the balls to do it. We got Jamie as a member, who dating with a feminist, basically a beta around her, writing poets , and he is a gardener.
But a chick MC who stand up and tell them this is how we got the shit done , opposing to Tommy whose solution is "Demand more money from your Dad", would not be respected is not believable to me, based on the actual members of the Dik fraternity.

The idea of MC start as a Chick and end up as a Dik , is something I dont see. MC start from Zero, and he gain confident regardless of him getting his cock signed by a striper or not . Hell, even the moment when MC stand up, and go visit Cathy to try to fix things, is more of a Chick mature person actions, and not a "I'm here for the pussy " Dik personality .

There are things in the game that make more sense if you play in a certain way, The Josy & Maya thing makes more sense if you are indeed on their path, otherwise you can kind of feel like, why the fuck I need to bother with this. Jill Tennis date with Tybalt, is kind of the same . So yeah there are these things, but the Chick, Neutral, Dik affinity things is not one of them, because the Dik scale, is not represent the Dik fraternity. That is not what the story is about.

I was just responding to the argument that a DIK would appreciate a CHICK choice more than a DIK choice and I don't think that's the case.

I didn't follow the previous speech, I don't agree with MandalayRoad 's idea because it assumes there is a right way to play the game, which I don't like as a principle. the path in the game remains free, every choice will have advantages and disadvantages, but I don't see any obligatory stage. then the preferred ending depends on taste.
finishing college by having sex with Quinn and Jade for me is a good ending, even if outside the trouple for example

then i agree with you that certain scenes only make sense if played in a certain way, but that's a limitation of the story. if there are no consequences to certain choices it can't be the fault of the player who makes them

if Mc still runs away when Josy arrives even though he just had sex with Quinn and Riona it's DPC's fault, not mine as a player.
Similarly if after having sex with all the HOTs, MC still fears being a rebound guy again it's DPC's fault.

 

[mindern]

I was just responding to the argument that a DIK would appreciate a CHICK choice more than a DIK choice and I don't think that's the case.

I didn't follow the previous speech, I don't agree with MandalayRoad 's idea because it assumes there is a right way to play the game, which I don't like as a principle. the path in the game remains free, every choice will have advantages and disadvantages, but I don't see any obligatory stage. then the preferred ending depends on taste.
finishing college by having sex with Quinn and Jade for me is a good ending, even if outside the trouple for example

then i agree with you that certain scenes only make sense if played in a certain way, but that's a limitation of the story. if there are no consequences to certain choices it can't be the fault of the player who makes them

if Mc still runs away when Josy arrives even though he just had sex with Quinn and Riona it's DPC's fault, not mine as a player.
Similarly if after having sex with all the HOTs, MC still fears being a rebound guy again it's DPC's fault.

That’s the problem with people restricting this whole discussion to what’s explicitly in game. It stops being about logic and human behaviour and starts being about what DPC coded.

We have to extrapolate to have any worthwhile discussion. It’s like I said in an edit above, we have a bunch of pages about what makes the best leader? So far the only impactful decision is whether you save scum the mini games to already have the windows fixed. That isn’t a narrative choice that’s metagaming the shoddy systems DPC made.

 

[dalli_x]

That's not the point. We are not talking about the future, since nobody knows the plans of the dev, but about the chapters already released. The debate was about the more logical path of the MC to be as coherent as possible with the initial premise of the game and the things the MC has done so far in the plot and don´t depend of the choices of the player: becoming a full member of DIKs, leading them in the task of repairing the house, taking the initiative of talking with Cathy and trying to fix the problem with the leaked photo, etc.

The developer's premise will be, play a full DIK as long as you want, have fun and impregnate as many girls as you want.

In the end, I'll punch you in the face for it.

 

[Nemo56]

The developer's premise will be, play a full DIK as long as you want, have fun and impregnate as many girls as you want.

This sounds SO much like the movie Idiocracy.

 

[PashafromRussia]

The developer's premise will be, play a full DIK as long as you want, have fun and impregnate as many girls as you want.

In the end, I'll punch you in the face for it.

Perhaps the idea of the developer is to talk about bullying in colleges, problems with drugs and drunkenness among young people and hazing for joining a student fraternity.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Here's what I'm interested in. Will the first year of the main character's studing end with the season finale? Or just the first semester?

 

[dalli_x]

That’s the problem with people restricting this whole discussion to what’s explicitly in game. It stops being about logic and human behaviour and starts being about what DPC coded.

We have to extrapolate to have any worthwhile discussion. It’s like I said in an edit above, we have a bunch of pages about what makes the best leader? So far the only impactful decision is whether you save scum the mini games to already have the windows fixed. That isn’t a narrative choice that’s metagaming the shoddy systems DPC made.

I have noticed, my good man, that you like the word "extrapolate" very much. The only problem is that you can't extrapolate the decision made as MC. DPC simply terminates a code sequence after a decision and continues this only 2EP's or 3EP's further. So extrapolating is actually already almost impossible, because there are no contexts for extrapolation.

Example: Let's assume that EP7 has not yet been released. The MC fucks Cathy in the car in EP4. Now extrapolate. Won't work. You can theorize that it was a bad decision to fuck Cathy in the car because it's not even the MC's car or Cathy's car. (Jizz stains on the seats) Okay the panties were surprising to me too.

Let's move on to logic and theorizing. You can find logical connections in BaD and build a theory out of it.

Example: The guitar playing for the LI's. The MC plays for Maya, Sage, Jill, Bella (If you chose her path in EP4) and Josy. After my MC played for Sage, I already knew he was going to do it for Josy. Josy has already said in EP1 to the MC that she wants him to play for her. Therefore, it was a logical assumption (theory) for me after the MC has played for Sage, that the MC will also play for Josy. The next logical assumption is, whoever wants Josy should also do it in EP7.

If you want to extrapolate a bit, take the following numbers.

(College years) 1-3-2-4-3=4
(Josy EP) 1-3-5-7
(Maya EP) 3-7
(MC or Jill College years) 1-3=This is the number 13 that keeps coming up. This means that either Jill is/was in college for 1-3 years or the MC is/was in college for 1-3 years.

 

[dalli_x]

Here's what I'm interested in. Will the first year of the main character's studing end with the season finale? Or just the first semester?

The way I extrapolated it, we will get to experience the full 4 college years.

 

[ChipLecsap]

The way I extrapolated it, we will get to experience the full 4 college years.

I would love that, and I hoping for it, but the actual "game time" is to slow right now. And it would also bring a little sadness for some fans, because unless Sage and Jill fail their class, they will leave before MC , aka they should be removed, and other characters should be elevated as love intrests, like Quinn, Lilly, may be Rio, or Camy.
I don't know how the Jill and Sage fans would feel about it, that they stuck with Josy, Maya, Derek , on the other Hand , Bella would be your Teacher

 

[Darkwen]

I would love that, and I hoping for it, but the actual "game time" is to slow right now. And it would also bring a little sadness for some fans, because unless Sage and Jill fail their class, they will leave before MC , aka they should be removed, and other characters should be elevated as love intrests, like Quinn, Lilly, may be Rio, or Camy.
I don't know how the Jill and Sage fans would feel about it, that they stuck with Josy, Maya, Derek

I like Jill but like Josy more so being stuck in a room with josy for 3 or 4 years sounds pretty great to me

 

[dalli_x]

I would love that, and I hoping for it, but the actual "game time" is to slow right now. And it would also bring a little sadness for some fans, because unless Sage and Jill fail their class, they will leave before MC , aka they should be removed, and other characters should be elevated as love intrests, like Quinn, Lilly, may be Rio, or Camy.
I don't know how the Jill and Sage fans would feel about it, that they stuck with Josy, Maya, Derek , on the other Hand , Bella would be your Teacher

I just know that we've probably played college years 1 and 3 so far. The time warp is best seen in Maya in EP3, EP4, EP5 and EP6.

EP3: Maya can't even get the tip of the MC's tail inside her.
EP4: Josy and Maya's clothes at the party. It looks too much like preps to me.
EP5: Maya suddenly gets half of the MC's tail inside her.
EP6: Josy and Maya talk about the rocket from the MC. But the sex of the two is strange. From the texts it can be read that Josy and Maya have sex for the first time since Josy came to B&R. Josy trains Maya excellently with MR.Dildy. But he should be too small for Maya, because she already fucked with the MC in EP5.

DPC messed up the time line and a linear time line from EP1 - EP(16) will be there only at the end. I'm not too familiar with Python coding, but DPC is maxing out the engine. Maybe, and I mean just maybe, if it's possible, DPC will give us some gameplay comics at the end that mirror the player's decisions.

 

[Laport Deminis]

on the other Hand , Bella would be your Teacher

Well, someone is going to replace Cathy. With a little luck...
Personally i would prefer to have her as Jade replacement, just to see her vs Derek.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I like Jill but like Josy more so being stuck in a room with josy for 3 or 4 years sounds pretty great to me

I can relate to that . I would not mind wake up this way for the next 3-4 year. Occasionally She could slip in a morning Blowjob of course



or a morning Anal

 

[JETracktor]

The way I extrapolated it, we will get to experience the full 4 college years.

When MC is telling part of his story in the past tense, DPC uses italic type. Maybe it means that MC still in B&R at the end of the story.

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[Lewdpussydick]

Everyone discussing about MC leadership are forgetting what's going currently in the game. He is an unofficial leader, calling shots with Rusty and Tommy. Has Rusty's trust with him whether he is DIK or CHICK OR NEUTRAL, and safe password that only Rusty and Tommy do.
No one in the frat has a personality for a leader. When the mansion trashing happened everyone were hopeless (even the leaders Rusty and Tommy who don't have any idea how to manage the frat only sailing because of Rusty's dad and Tommy cockiness(selfishness?), it was MC who took initiative and showed them the correct path.
For me, he is a seal deal to be leader in future regardless of affinity. The RP DIKs variable and his RP with Tommy might change it, who knows. Only close that comes to a leadership is Jacob who seems diplomatic.