VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[inevitableandinfinity8]

Yeah… hate to break it to you but a lot of legal systems consider use of blackmail to get laid rape. I think this is something you might need to be aware of considering you just said using blackmail to sleep with Maya/Jill/Bella would be “romancing” them.

Even if we ignore the letter of the law I think we can all agree MC blackmailing someone into bed is just rape and not “romancing” a girl… and not what this story is about or even needs.

I am fully agree with you blackmailing for sex is a rape.
I got a because I love jill but i don't know wtf she listen to that tybelt , accept and believe whatever he said.
i really lost my mind when bella said exactly as third person(player) was thinking but jill says see didn't see blackmail as blackmail.
I don't know why jill accepting tybelt over mc. I think it's my chick status I will try dik path because i am losing my shit with jill, hopes that things might change on that path, keeping my fingers cross.
love quinn btw, my best second li and after that sage. don't know how to romance with quinn I love her too.

 

[Infinite9]

Being A Dik and Summertime Saga is two popular games and of course both of this game are great and all storywise. Great art as well. But you see MC's are relatable to players as well. So if there was a rape or blackmail scene in this game for MC to act; it would be huge no:no. I know some of you guys have fantasies and it's okay as long as it is just a fantasy. But you gotta empathize it's not okay to see for most people and it can be very disturbing see for some people.

 

[seniorboop]

Blackmailing someone for anything sexual is 100% rape.

If consent isn't willingly given, that is rape. I don't ever want to see that in a VN tbh.

 

[BeingADikDik]

In my thigh meter there are slim thighs, normal thighs, slightly thicc thighs, thicc thighs, extra thicc thighs, extra extra thick thighs (when they stop being attractive). I would rate her slightly thicc in this shot. On the other hand this is what i would call extra thicc...

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Awwwwww yeah gimme dem lego legs:

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Blackmailing someone for anything sexual is 100% rape.

If consent isn't willingly given, that is rape. I don't ever want to see that in a VN tbh.

It's frustrating that so many people can't understand this. And it's especially frustrating that games include it because it's soooo unnecessary. BADIK didn't need to include a scene with the MC being coerced to any degree, even if you have the chance to say "stop". It wasn't necessary for the story. While it wasn't a deal breaker for me in this situation, it was still frustrating.

 

[thorin0815]

It wasn't necessary for the story. While it wasn't a deal breaker for me in this situation, it was still frustrating.

I wouldn't say it wasn't necessary, it made Quinn's character even clearer. She does what she wants and she doesn't care what others want or think about it. First and foremost, this is probably just an outer protective wall that is supposed to make her less vulnerable. Some small stones have now been removed (on her path) by the MC, hopefully many more will follow and the real Quinn will come out before it ends badly for her.

 

[Kellermann]

I don't know why jill accepting tybelt over mc. I think it's my chick status I will try dik path because i am losing my shit with jill, hopes that things might change on that path, keeping my fingers cross.
love quinn btw, my best second li and after that sage. don't know how to romance with quinn I love her too.

I don't think you're going to have more luck with Jill as a DIK MC. If anything, that will hurt your chances. She is a CHICK-side LI all the way. DPC is keeping up this Tybalt blackmail charade for the purposes of story drama. I don't think many players believe that storyline is plausible, but DPC can't have MC and Jill immediately living happily together with zero relationship barriers. I just would have preferred some other more believable type of drama, but alas this is what we are stuck with. The only question now is how much longer DPC will drag it out. The third Tybalt date should be happening soon. After that, it's time to nix that sub-plot so MC can begin wooing Jill in earnest. Jill doesn't need any more relationship barriers...she is her OWN relationship barrier in that she is too nervous to have sex. It's going to take many many episodes to overcome that. Maybe Tybalt will finally move on from Jill after he finds true love with Minny.

 

[ename144]

will it be possible to make a harem? I just played this game, and my God it is a perfection

We can't know for certain, but I would be willing to bet a considerable amount against there ever being a harem in BaDIK.

Unless you would count Maya and Josy by themselves as a harem; in that case, I would be prepared to make no sudden movements and drop the discussion before we attract DPC's attention.

 

[BeingADikDik]

We can't know for certain, but I would be willing to bet a considerable amount against there ever being a harem in BaDIK.

Unless you would count Maya and Josy by themselves as a harem; in that case, I would be prepared to make no sudden movements and drop the discussion before we attract DPC's attention.

I think there might be a secret harem ending this time around. At the beginning of the narration, MC refers to him and his dad and says something along the lines of 'it was just the two of us back then' ... which implies such is no longer the case in present day. That could refer to a significant other / normal ending, but perhaps it means something more ... but the question to really ask is whether the harem ending is on the CHICK (love) or DIK (lust) route.

 

[godkingxerxes]

I think there might be a secret harem ending this time around. At the beginning of the narration, MC refers to him and his dad and says something along the lines of 'it was just the two of us back then' ... which implies such is no longer the case in present day. That could refer to a significant other / normal ending, but perhaps it means something more ... but the question to really ask is whether the harem ending is on the CHICK (love) or DIK (lust) route.

He's just alluding to his daddy's death. It was two, soon to be one.

The Pink Rose kind of fits as a harem, all those girls love the big dick and they have no issue him being shared around.

 

[lipe2410]

The Pink Rose kind of fits as a harem, all those girls love the big dick and they have no issue him being shared around.

Yeah, but all MC sharing have to be allowed by Goddess Queen Nicole.

 

[seniorboop]

I don't think many players believe that storyline is plausible, but DPC can't have MC and Jill immediately living happily together with zero relationship barriers. I just would have preferred some other more believable type of drama, but alas this is what we are stuck with. The only question now is how much longer DPC will drag it out.

Probably the #1 thing that bothers me in this game. Not only is her drama comical it's also not plausible. Im going to stand on this soap box forever; there's absolutely no way Burke would ever allow Tybalt to open any sort of investigation at the school. Burke would have to be brain dead not to see how that would catastrophically backfire.

Her entire "drama" plot feels absolutely pointless in consideration of that and I don't see how DPC doesn't see this... Or maybe im meta gaming. Idk.

 

[Kellermann]

Probably the #1 thing that bothers me in this game. Not only is her drama comical it's also not plausible. Im going to stand on this soap box forever; there's absolutely no way Burke would ever allow Tybalt to open any sort of investigation at the school. Burke would have to be brain dead not to see how that would catastrophically backfire.

Her entire "drama" plot feels absolutely pointless in consideration of that and I don't see how DPC doesn't see this... Or maybe im meta gaming. Idk.

Yeah, this Tybalt stuff can't continue ad infinitum. You're right about Burke not allowing an investigation, but does he even know about the blackmail? If he doesn't learn about it until after Tybalt kickstarts an investigation, then there isn't much he could do and the damage to him would already be done...namely outside scrutiny.

I really want to know exactly how plugged in Burke is to campus activities and secrets. Does he have a network of cameras that he monitors? Does he have rats like Nick the Dick working for him? Or does he prowl school grounds at night spying on topless teachers blowing their students? I was quite disappointed that the (potentially) evil Burke mastermind storyline seemingly disappeared after that promising cliffhanger in his office.

 

[hakuna-matata]

I don't think you're going to have more luck with Jill as a DIK MC. If anything, that will hurt your chances. She is a CHICK-side LI all the way. DPC is keeping up this Tybalt blackmail charade for the purposes of story drama. I don't think many players believe that storyline is plausible, but DPC can't have MC and Jill immediately living happily together with zero relationship barriers. I just would have preferred some other more believable type of drama, but alas this is what we are stuck with. The only question now is how much longer DPC will drag it out. The third Tybalt date should be happening soon. After that, it's time to nix that sub-plot so MC can begin wooing Jill in earnest. Jill doesn't need any more relationship barriers...she is her OWN relationship barrier in that she is too nervous to have sex. It's going to take many many episodes to overcome that. Maybe

Probably the #1 thing that bothers me in this game. Not only is her drama comical it's also not plausible. Im going to stand on this soap box forever; there's absolutely no way Burke would ever allow Tybalt to open any sort of investigation at the school. Burke would have to be brain dead not to see how that would catastrophically backfire.

Her entire "drama" plot feels absolutely pointless in consideration of that and I don't see how DPC doesn't see this... Or maybe im meta gaming. Idk.

Tybalt will finally move on from Jill after he finds true love with Minny.

The storyline itself doesn't make sense. It's just weird. If DPC wanted to add a "barrier" between them, then he could have gone with "parents don't approve because you're a 3rd class peasant worse than Jack Dawson" story line.

 

[ReinerBraun. (.づ◡﹏◡)づ.]

In my thigh meter there are slim thighs, normal thighs, slightly thicc thighs, thicc thighs, extra thicc thighs, extra extra thick thighs (when they stop being attractive). I would rate her slightly thicc in this shot. On the other hand this is what i would call extra thicc...

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where you found this beautiful picture

 

[Kellermann]

The storyline itself doesn't make sense. It's just weird. If DPC wanted to add a "barrier" between them, then he could have gone with "parents don't approve because you're a 3rd class peasant worse than Jack Dawson" story line.

The Tybalt blackmail sub-plot hurts the character of Jill even more than the player. It makes her look naive, weak, and incredibly stupid. If you are a 21-yr old person falling for something like that then my goodness, the outside world is really going to eat you alive when you step outside B&R. At least we got that scene of Bella dropping some truth bombs on Jill. I was like, Finally! Someone telling Jill how ridiculous she is acting.

 

[AchedCroissant]

The Tybalt blackmail sub-plot hurts the character of Jill even more than the player. It makes her look naive, weak, and incredibly stupid. If you are a 21-yr old person falling for something like that then my goodness, the outside world is really going to eat you alive when you step outside B&R. At least we got that scene of Bella dropping some truth bombs on Jill. I was like, Finally! Someone telling Jill how ridiculous she is acting.

I miss Evil Jill

 

[BeingADikDik]

The storyline itself doesn't make sense. It's just weird. If DPC wanted to add a "barrier" between them, then he could have gone with "parents don't approve because you're a 3rd class peasant worse than Jack Dawson" story line.

Theory: the Royces only recognize gay relationships. Jill's sister was kicked out of the house for being straight, and now her parents are going to be barging into her room looking for boys. If they find her with a boy, they've threatened to pay for her tuition when they know she wants to pay her own way as punishment. Jill gets disowned for having Tybalt's love child, Bella murders Tybalt, the Royces adopt Maya, and MC lives happily ever after with Sage and Jade.

 

[D2M3]

It's frustrating that so many people can't understand this. And it's especially frustrating that games include it because it's soooo unnecessary. BADIK didn't need to include a scene with the MC being coerced to any degree, even if you have the chance to say "stop". It wasn't necessary for the story. While it wasn't a deal breaker for me in this situation, it was still frustrating.

Not can't. Won't.

They willingly reject reality, because most of them are either
1) guilty of doing a similar thing to a degree, whether be it in form of workplace power dynamics exploitation or alcohol related shenanigans,
2) either fundamentalist religious zealots and/or sociopathic narcissists.

The concept of blackmail + anything sexual == rape is an extremely easy to explain and understand framework.
The concept of blackmail + money == extortion is also easy.

Codified law easily defines those. But certain people will never stop to blur those lines, because as previously stated, they have skin in the game.

If anyone argues otherwise, immediately review your entire friendship history with said person.

I failed at this horribly back in college, and a friend most of my friend group thought " just a quirky guy" turned out to be a serial date rapist that about 15 guys in total failed to detect.

Monsters live among us people. Be on the lookout.

By that token, if anyone is defending Quinn on similar grounds, I also would think twice. The primary reasaon I hate her as a character ( well written villain) is this fact alone. At best, she's an enabler of Burke, at worst, accomplice.

 

[thorin0815]

Theory: the Royces only recognize gay relationships. Jill's sister was kicked out of the house for being straight, and now her parents are going to be barging into her room looking for boys. If they find her with a boy, they've threatened to pay for her tuition when they know she wants to pay her own way as punishment. Jill gets disowned for having Tybalt's love child, Bella murders Tybalt, the Royces adopt Maya, and MC lives happily ever after with Sage and Jade.

But what if it turns out that Tybalt is actually a disguised Roger from American Dad?! In another female disguise (e.g. as Josy, because Roger has also played this role so far) it would certainly not be difficult for him to deceive Jill's parents. Jill has her baby (via immaculate conception) and they will live happily ever after.