VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

It's funny, while I don't mind what content I miss on a play through, there's one scene that I need to witness when it comes along (so I'll tweak the game to make sure it happens even if I'm on the wrong path):

Spoiler: It's not exactly SFW, but it's bordering on innocent...

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Parodies aside, I just love that scene. Probably my favourite Jill scene. It's lewd but innocent.

Then she goes on to get all giddy/ashamed for looking at his cock!

I don't get an innocent vibe from that sequence at all (nor in the original version for that matter ) . The MC is oddly slow to take his hand off once her realizes what happened, and Jill doesn't look like she enjoyed the grope. I much prefer to take her word for how good the shower is.

That way a few seconds later my favorite Jill moment doesn't feel like sexual harassment!

You can Change your own character name, but not the other NPC names. so either you are both stay Tommy, or you change your name. I think you can do it in the phone app. But I never did it so I dont know if its actually working or not, it may couse a bug or something, I never tested.

In Episodes 1-6, you go into the Bios app on the phone, click the three dots in the top right, and then enter a new name on the next screen.

With the new phone in Episode 7, go to the Settings app and adjust the name there.

To me, the mod isn't to avoid "wrong choices and have to repeat", but to avoid a senseless moral meter that defines how your interactions should be like. It restricts your "roleplaying" far too much. For example, there's no reason you can't go on the date with Jill and take care of Sage earlier/later in the day. That's just one example. To me, the rewards should be earned through enough build-up and growth, not choosing prompts to fill a morality bar so that your options aren't greyed out. The mod helps with that, makes the playthrough feel more natural.

I slam the Affinity system plenty, but choosing between Jill's picnic and Sage in Episode 7 has nothing to do with the game's morality meter (or even the backup morality meter). It's just a choice between the two girls. And frankly, being forced to choose is a good thing IMHO. The problem is that DPC got complacent and wrote the scene in such a way that not only is Jill's reaction to the MC choosing Sage preposterous, but as you note, there's an easy third option as well.

That said, the mod can't really fix this - the game is designed around it being an either/or choice. Doing both might work for a little while, but eventually the game will become incoherent trying to bridge that gap. At most the mod would let you reverse the choice retroactively, but that's what I would say falls under "wrong choices and have to repeat."

Forgive me, if this has been asked or talked about before.

Quinn is not a "main girl," correct? So she is does not necessarily have a "route" like the other girls do. I ask because Sage wants to know if I want to be BF/GF and I was thinking about telling her "NO" as I hoped Quinn would eventually be available for relationship.

No one (save DPC) knows for sure. IMHO, Quinn's lack of Main Girl status is no obstacle to her getting an ending, but it's too soon to say if she actually will get one (rather than becoming a tragic, cautionary tale).

As for the choice in Episode 8, I suspect we'll get another choice before the game is through. So if you want to go for Sage as an insurance policy, you're probably on safe ground with Quinn down the line (though there may be some tears involved). If you like Quinn, though, I'd recommend sticking with "Others" and see how her path plays out. You can always pursue Sage in a second playthough.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Regarding the Interlude, can I continue overwriting my saves from season two? Or should I create new ones?

Doesn't the interlude, being season 3, have it's own save pages?

Either way, the only season 2 saves that matter are the ones you make at the end if episode 8 that's used to create the season 3 save.

 

[JLP603]

Hi does anyone know if its possible to have others or the choice of not dating anyone as their road in episode 8 cross roads with a neutral affinity? Does the question derek asked in episode 4 about if you can see yourself being in a relationship affect this?

 

[godkingxerxes]

Hi does anyone know if its possible to have others or the choice of not dating anyone as their road in episode 8 cross roads with a neutral affinity? Does the question derek asked in episode 4 about if you can see yourself being in a relationship affect this?

You have to not be on Jill or Josys path, IIRC. If on any of those two paths you must declare celebacy.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

I slam the Affinity system plenty, but choosing between Jill's picnic and Sage in Episode 7 has nothing to do with the game's morality meter (or even the backup morality meter). It's just a choice between the two girls. And frankly, being forced to choose is a good thing IMHO. The problem is that DPC got complacent and wrote the scene in such a way that not only is Jill's reaction to the MC choosing Sage preposterous, but as you note, there's an easy third option as well.

That said, the mod can't really fix this - the game is designed around it being an either/or choice. Doing both might work for a little while, but eventually the game will become incoherent trying to bridge that gap. At most the mod would let you reverse the choice retroactively, but that's what I would say falls under "wrong choices and have to repeat."

It has everything to do with it, Jill is heavily bound to the morality system. Regardless, it was just an example of how the mod can make the playthrough go more organically, which is what I said as well.


To be fair, the mod kinda fixed it, because I chose Sage in the end and that's it, end of things for Jill. That choice doesn't matter anymore, it mattered when I played an MC that still hadn't made up his mind. It also adapts the third choice (see both) quite well, with the MC pointing out that he had the time for both on the character's page.

 

[Skeltom]

In Episodes 1-6, you go into the Bios app on the phone, click the three dots in the top right, and then enter a new name on the next screen.

I think they were asking if they can change Tommy's name. They said his "father" and him have the same name now so I assume they put Tommy as their own as well. Unless I read it completely wrong.

 

[Ilhares]

You have to not be on Jill or Josys path, IIRC. If on any of those two paths you must declare celebacy.

I realize the meanings have been blurred over time, but it's still a hill I will die on. Celibacy is the act of remaining unmarried. Not having sex falls under Chastity.

This is, in almost every way, the result of certain religions banning sex before marriage, where if one is celibate the de-facto assumption is that you are therefore chaste. This is also why it was considered a 'big deal' by some when priests were allowed to marry. The reality is that the priests were having plenty of sex before, but the inability to marry put any potential offspring under threat of damnation, for having been borne out of wedlock. It probably also helped by giving them an 'out', so that angry fathers didn't burn the churches to the ground. I'd like to imagine there was at least some consideration for the damage to the women's reputations, but historically speaking, they had very little consideration for anything other than their value in trade (i.e. marriage to others).

In game terms, the MC is celibate, no matter your decisions, and has most likely not been chaste. He's a whore. And that's A-OK, as long as he hasn't been banging goblins.

 

[von chaturr]

This game is so much fun to enjoy , cheers to Dr.Pink

 

[AchedCroissant]

You have to not be on Jill or Josys path, IIRC. If on any of those two paths you must declare celebacy.

I can't find Josy Path is all the variables of the game

Do you have some information to give us?

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

Theory: Stephen Burke is secretly a cuck. When he confronts MC and Jade with the pictures of them having sex, he forces them to fuck each other in front of him while he gets off on it.

God, that would be a really steamy scene, the humiliation MC and Jade would feel as they're forced to copulate while Stephen jerks off in a corner and directs the action:

Burke: "Yeah, lick her pussy...that's it. God, that's so fucking hot!"

 

[PashafromRussia]

Theory: Stephen Burke is secretly a cuck. When he confronts MC and Jade with the pictures of them having sex, he forces them to fuck each other in front of him while he gets off on it.

God, that would be a really steamy scene, the humiliation MC and Jade would feel as they're forced to copulate while Stephen jerks off in a corner and directs the action:

Burke: "Yeah, lick her pussy...that's it. God, that's so fucking hot!"

Yes. He also spies on MС and Jade fucking in a hotel in episode 8. Jade says that it excites her when she is being watched, hinting apparently at Burke.

 

[ShadyDeeds]

Thx, great game.

 

[vogelbeest]

I realize the meanings have been blurred over time, but it's still a hill I will die on. Celibacy is the act of remaining unmarried. Not having sex falls under Chastity.

Celibacy is the vow to refrain from any sexual relations and marriage by priests and nuns and such. It's basicly a religious vow for chastity and not marrying.

Chastity is the state of refraining from any extra marital sex or all sexual intercourse. It's not a vow, it's behavior.
Technically you can be married, have sexual intercourse with your partner in marriage and you're still called "chast".

You cannot be celibate without being a church official, you can be a church official without being calibate.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Finally started playing Acting Lessons, I like Leah, I think I have a type and I think I have a problem...

 

[fool1200]

I slam the Affinity system plenty, but choosing between Jill's picnic and Sage in Episode 7 has nothing to do with the game's morality meter (or even the backup morality meter). It's just a choice between the two girls. And frankly, being forced to choose is a good thing IMHO. The problem is that DPC got complacent and wrote the scene in such a way that not only is Jill's reaction to the MC choosing Sage preposterous, but as you note, there's an easy third option as well.

I really hate that choice. Not only it's a choice between two girls that can permanently block off one, it's only a one-way block, meaning that choosing Jill over Sage is literally the right answer, all things considered. I could have accepted it if choosing Jill blocked Sage too, but no, choosing Jill over Sage has no meaningful impact (-2 relationship with Sage does nothing - there aren't relationship score checks in the game anymore).

 

[DarkKiller]

Celibacy is the vow to refrain from any sexual relations and marriage by priests and nuns and such. It's basicly a religious vow for chastity and not marrying.

Chastity is the state of refraining from any extra marital sex or all sexual intercourse. It's not a vow, it's behavior.
Technically you can be married, have sexual intercourse with your partner in marriage and you're still called "chast".

You cannot be celibate without being a church official, you can be a church official without being calibate.

I agree with Ilhares on this, a few years back when I had french lessons I remember studying the origin of some words and one that we studied was célibataire. I don't remember its latin origin being directly related to religion. It just meant "unmarried" or "wifeless" and it was even used to describe widowed people if I recall correctly, so I don't think the word initially had anything to do with sex or religion.
But this is all just semantics, its meaning probably changed over time and both of you can be technically correct.

 

[cheesetriangles]

Language is descriptive not prescriptive and changes with the times. The origins don't matter if everyone uses it now to mean something else.

 

[Pillock]

Doesn't the interlude, being season 3, have it's own save pages?

Either way, the only season 2 saves that matter are the ones you make at the end if episode 8 that's used to create the season 3 save.

That's what I wanted to know, I'm currently replaying through the game, I wanted clean unmodded saves. I remember the game talking about transferring your saves over to season 3. I wasn't sure if interlude actually is a continuation of the main story, albeit with new characters I probably don't care about, or just something DPC wanted to do, to avoid burning out on the existing story and cast.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

The music is also amazing, soo early-mid 2000s. Brings a lot of memories back.

 

[Skeltom]

Finally started playing Acting Lessons, I like Leah, I think I have a type and I think I have a problem...

You better buckle up.