VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Ir0n Ma1den]

Dependent on what day of the week is... it's Chad & Troy

For me till episode 3 it was Maya(Even if she is a Bi I still like her). But now, after I found out more about sage. Its close between Sage, Isabella and Jill. Sage is a smoking redhead hottie just like Triss from the witcher, Jill mann she is gorgous. Isabella and MC have a intreasting connection (Besides her being a gorgous milf). Isabella is more of mother to our MC, and she is a very honest and caring character with insane carisma so its no wonder that our MC is attrected to her. Under all the ice queen font that she puts, hides a very caring and warm person. With sage, I thought she was a total BIMBO in the early episodes, but like Isabella I totaly misguged her. Jill is adorbale and old school feminine/fregile, also mirroring his fathers relationship with his mother. I can also say that I connect to the MC, I also play guitar and do martial arts (Wing tsun(The veitnamese version) for almost a decade now. I also was bullied in my teenage years, till I started going to the GYM and later do martial arts. Unfortenetly in his age I was in the millitary.

 

[TimHawk]

The mc suggests his 5K is almost enough for 1 semester (Maya's doing a "Social Work Degree"). So 10K a year shouldn't be impossible for a part time job. This actually lines up with real life. The in-state tuition and fees for social work programs is around 10K.

It's not like she's studying medicine...

It does line up if you ignore Room & Board and Books/other learning materials. B&R is I believe a private college, so on average 12.500$ a year rounds up to about 50k in Room & Board and prob below 10k for Books and stuff for the 4 year span. And then you add the costs of actually living a Students life, clothes, Netflix, parties and all kinds of shit, which admittingly is up to each individual to pay or not pay, so my best guess for the full 4 Years is Maya prob has to calculate with ~ 100.000$ to 120.000$, which also lines up nicely with real life.

She could obviously remove a huge chunk of that change if she actually moves into the HOT mansion and as Josy suggested starts making her own meals, or rather if the HOTs split the costs for food/drinks.

 

[Jimayo]

The mc suggests his 5K is almost enough for 1 semester (Maya's doing a "Social Work Degree"). So 10K a year shouldn't be impossible for a part time job. This actually lines up with real life. The in-state tuition and fees for social work programs is around 10K.

It's cute you think 7.50/hr is going to pay you 10 grand a year part time. I mean, full time that's 15 grand a year.

 

[ename144]

In episode 3, Maya started to really think about getting a job. Or was that giving a job: Handjob, blowjob, thighjob... And if you played your cards right, she did.

But seriously:

Josy: "Yeah, of course there is. I think I will spend that time getting some work experience and earn extra money."​

Maya: "That's cool. I never had a summer job...or any job for that matter."​

Josy: "This summer I sold strawberries. It was pretty sweet."​

Josy: "I basically sat outside listening to music all day and if I sold a lot I got to go home early."​

Josy: "I got a great tan from it, too!"​

Maya: "It sounds fun!"​

Josy: "Why don't you try it this summer?"​

Maya: "I don't think my dad would want that."​

Josy: "Ok? But it's your choice, isn't it?"​

Maya: "Hm... He's pretty fussy about what we do for vacation."​

Her whole life has been controlled by her father. She would have basically just given in to his whims most of the time. It's only since he's stopped her seeing Josy that she's starting to fight back.

So it'll take time for her to step out of her "comfort zone" and start doing things like... just get a fucking job!

I agree with this, but it only works up to a point. It explains why the concept of getting a job is so alien to Maya, but not why her friends don't encourage her to do it once it becomes clear that it would help.

Consider that when the DIKs likewise lacked the imagination to consider working for a living, the MC gave them a big speech then organized them and helped them learn the ropes. When he learned about Maya's loan situation, he gave her a hug* and then went to the HOT party and played doubles tennis with Jill.

At a certain point I think we can acknowledge that DPC is just avoiding the obvious solution for the sake of the drama.

(*technically optional)

The 'Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!' scene has now been diluted by the end of the Interlude, to make it a little bit more context specific, but it will be interesting if episode 9 just picks up exactly where episode 8 left off.

I'd hate for us to start up further down the road. I want to see that scene play out properly.

But regarding the "Crossroads", I just played the entire game from scratch this week and it all felt fairly natural.

He has an upset with Maya and Josy and then either forms a relationship with them or accepts them as friends. He's also forms a potentially messy relationship with Bella and Jill (which you can take further or slow down). On the side he's forming a relationship with Sage who's already in another relationship.

Even if you pull out of all the relationship's above, it was pretty fucked up. So by the time the mc is at the recital, and all the girls that he's been making out with (and having significant feelings for) over the course of 3 months come together (except Sage) and start forming friendships, it'd be a little fucking awkward.

My favourite scene with all of this is the "Study!" scene in the library when Jill, Josy and Maya are all talking and getting to know each other and their relationships with the mc and he starts to panic.

Eh, I still think it flows quite poorly. I see what DPC is aiming for, the problem is that the other girls have been interacting for a while and it's only at the crossroads that the MC suddenly worries about it. If playing tennis with Jill and Bella, making out with Bella, then sneaking into the preps mansion to make out with Jill didn't phase an MC dating both of them, I don't see why Maya and Josy hugging a girl he has no strong feelings for would merit so much as a raised eyebrow.

The problem with the crossroads is that DPC treats it as a major milestone when some MCs were still miles away from it and others had passed it at the end of Season 1. He really should have focused Season 2 more squarely on the MC contemplating what he wants out of a relationship vis a vis the various girls rather than leaving it all for the last minute.

 

[sixart]

For me till episode 3 it was Maya(Even if she is a Bi I still like her). But now, after I found out more about sage. Its close between Sage, Isabella and Jill. Sage is a smoking redhead hottie just like Triss from the witcher, Jill mann she is gorgous. Isabella and MC have a intreasting connection (Besides her being a gorgous milf). Isabella is more of mother to our MC, and she is a very honest and caring character with insane carisma so its no wonder that our MC is attrected to her. Under all the ice queen font that she puts, hides a very caring and warm person. With sage, I thought she was a total BIMBO in the early episodes, but like Isabella I totaly misguged her. Jill is adorbale and old school feminine/fregile, also mirroring his fathers relationship with his mother. I can also say that I connect to the MC, I also play guitar and do martial arts (Wing tsun(The veitnamese version) for almost a decade now. I also was bullied in my teenage years, till I started going to the GYM and later do martial arts. Unfortenetly in his age I was in the millitary.

For me it's all of them and none of them at the same time... it is unnecessary to pick ONE from the many for those who are set to complete the game ( as in 100 % ) Each player has his/her own opinion on preference so it's pointless to draw out " yet another poll thingy " But just to make her presence obvious to everybody I have to go with Madame

Sa Long Cương is what you mean by Wing Chun " version " ?

And the best for the end... WTF is misguged ??? ( misjudged ? )

 

[Skeltom]

It's cute you think 7.50/hr is going to pay you 10 grand a year part time. I mean, full time that's 15 grand a year.

I don't know where you live but minimum wage is 13.20 in my area, over 15 in the city.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

For me it's all of them and none of them at the same time... it is unnecessary to pick ONE from the many for those who are set to complete the game ( as in 100 % ) Each player has his/her own opinion on preference so it's pointless to draw out " yet another poll thingy " But just to make her presence obvious to everybody I have to go with Madame

Sa Long Cương is what you mean by Wing Chun " version " ?

And the best for the end... WTF is misguged ??? ( misjudged ? )

I mean that there are diffrent wing chun versions, There is the classic chinease wing tsun that Ip man and Bruce lee(Before he invented jeet kwan do), and there is the Vietnamese version that insted of focusing on fast hard blows like the classical wing tsun. Is more slow and focuses on soft fist, like similar to tai-chi.

 

[Jimayo]

I don't know where you live but minimum wage is 13.20 in my area, over 15 in the city.

The federal minimum wage in america is 7.25/hr. And most states go with the federal minimum. Educate yourself.

 

[shazba]

It's cute you think 7.50/hr is going to pay you 10 grand a year part time. I mean, full time that's 15 grand a year.

I don't know where you live but minimum wage is 13.20 in my area, over 15 in the city.

If you're aiming for a job at Burger King (like the bottom of the fucking rank as far as I'm concerned - literally flipping burgers), you're already looking at almost $10/hr (9.85 if you wanna get specific).

So even at 10$/hr, a couple of 4 hour shifts during the week and an 8 hour shift over the weekend, that's close to 8K a year (minus 10% on taxes), and we've just started at the bottom of the barrel.

Here's a bunch of part time job ideas that pay better:

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So like yeah, they all pay better than (as d3philer puts it) sitting around being bisexual.

It really comes down to if you wanna get off your ass and make some money, or if you're waiting for a hand out.

 

[Jimayo]

If you're aiming for a job at Burger King (like the bottom of the fucking rank as far as I'm concerned - literally flipping burgers), you're already looking at almost $10/hr (9.85 if you wanna get specific).

So even at 10$/hr, a couple of 4 hour shifts during the week and an 8 hour shift over the weekend, that's close to 8K a year (minus 10% on taxes), and we've just started at the bottom of the barrel.

Here's a bunch of part time job ideas that pay better:

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So like yeah, they all pay better than (as d3philer puts it) sitting around being bisexual.

It really comes down to if you wanna get off your ass and make some money, or if you're waiting for a hand out.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, No. This game takes place in america where the minimum wage almost everywhere is 7.25/hr. That's 15 grand/yr gross pay at 40 hrs a week. These jobs don't pay as much as y'all think they do.

 

[Skeltom]

The federal minimum wage in america is 7.25/hr. And most states go with the federal minimum. Educate yourself.

You should take your own advice.

You must be registered to see the links

 

[TimHawk]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, No. This game takes place in america where the minimum wage almost everywhere is 7.25/hr. That's 15 grand/yr gross pay at 40 hrs a week. These jobs don't pay as much as y'all think they do.

Not gonna get into most of that, but the average Student worker salary in the US as of 2022 is $11.14/h.

 

[vogelbeest]

She may say that and it may work in favor of DPC's story for her but that's only if you completely disregard the fact that she is an adult in collage. The only one making her listen to her father is herself and DPC. She's not home anymore to where it would even be an issue. But then again Josy gets "grounded" like a twelve year old as well, seemingly just for an excuse for why she can't contact anyone after your date with her.

Maya believes her father will stop the loan forcing her to drop her studies and needing to find somewhere to live, a job and paying back the debt and getting no education. The blackmail as she told MC just doesn't leave much space to even act with an adult attitude, she believes she is a prisoner, she believes free tuition is the answer.

How much of the blackmail contract is even true doesn't really matter, she fears going against her father's will and more or less secretly tries to get a scholarship. She's in the HOT's but remains in her coed room just because daddy might pay a visit...
Every sunday she eat's with the parents, more or less in the hope daddy will do less surprise visits...
Perhaps she could get a job and maybe it all would work out, but she's not willing to take the risk out of fear...

She's 18-19 years old, had a sheltered youth and upbringing in a religious family. We see her twin brother Derek is let completely loose and unsupervised. Just being a girl already means less free, let alone one with lesbian (sodomy!) tendencies.
Yeah, each child has to grow into an independent adult but that doesn't mean once they reach the age of 18 they are one.

 

[shazba]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, No. This game takes place in america where the minimum wage almost everywhere is 7.25/hr. That's 15 grand/yr gross pay at 40 hrs a week. These jobs don't pay as much as y'all think they do.

You should take your own advice.

You must be registered to see the links

Not gonna get into most of that, but the average Student worker salary in the US as of 2022 is $11.14/h.

Here's a better link that shows state by state minimum wages, ranging from highest to lowest:

You must be registered to see the links

Maya believes her father will stop the loan forcing her to drop her studies and needing to find somewhere to live, a job and paying back the debt and getting no education. The blackmail as she told MC just doesn't leave much space to even act with an adult attitude, she believes she is a prisoner, she believes free tuition is the answer.

How much of the blackmail contract is even true doesn't really matter, she fears going against her father's will and more or less secretly tries to get a scholarship. She's in the HOT's but remains in her coed room just because daddy might pay a visit...
Every sunday she eat's with the parents, more or less in the hope daddy will do less surprise visits...
Perhaps she could get a job and maybe it all would work out, but she's not willing to take the risk out of fear...

She's 18-19 years old, had a sheltered youth and upbringing in a religious family. We see her twin brother Derek is let completely loose and unsupervised. Just being a girl already means less free, let alone one with lesbian (sodomy!) tendencies.
Yeah, each child has to grow into an independent adult but that doesn't mean once they reach the age of 18 they are one.

She just needs some good advice. If the Burkes actually listened to her situation as she sees it, they should be able to call bullshit.

But yeah, even Josy complains to the mc that she thinks Maya is just giving up. She's looking for quick fixes and they don't work.

 

[Skeltom]

Here's a better link that shows state by state minimum wages, ranging from highest to lowest:

Good chart. Funny how well over half of the U.S. is over 7hr minimum huh?

 

[lipe2410]

Asking you guys, who is the best girl in the game?

Don't ask that if you don't wanna start a war

But the best girls are Maya, Josy and Nicole - a.k.a MC's soulmates and only my opinion matter

 

[deuxrayme]

Barring Jade being so angry at the MC that she refuses to help her daughter's friend, a simple conversation between her an Maya will wrap up this story line and allow the game to move on. The money Josy is paying to keep her dorm room hers on paper would really help Maya with this problem. I went to a state school and not a private one like B&R but my room and board was almost 1:1 with my tuition (iirc).

ETA: Our dense MC also took out loans and we all know Neil didn't read the paperwork, so Tremolo should have a better idea about how student loans work but alas he is denser than lead.

 

[cuckslayer8]

Nice game

 

[TimHawk]

But yeah, even Josy complains to the mc that she thinks Maya is just giving up. She's looking for quick fixes and they don't work.

I agree with you, that Maya doesnt really think long term and just tries to snipe every opportunity that comes her way, but although its never mentioned in the game, except once from the MC after the Chad fight, there are other costs that she would have to consider if she wants 100% freedom from her dad.

I was super lucky, beeing german-american, I studied in both countries and 1 year in Australia. And when I was overseas ( Germany and Australia ) the first thing I always panicked about was Health Insurance. No idea if its still the same but you cant even study in germany or australia without HI, where as in the US its all fair game. Now we're never told but Im just gonna assume that her parents took advantage of family-student plans and both Derek and Maya are insured under their parents plan.

So if Maya wants to totally disconnect from her dad, health insurance would most definitely have to factor into her plans. Its impossible to predict costs, there are a billion providers and even more plans for each provider, but it wouldnt be cheap.

Of course she could always just yolo it for those 4 years, but Maya doesnt seem like the yolo kinda girl

 

[vogelbeest]

Barring Jade being so angry at the MC that she refuses to help her daughter's friend, a simple conversation between her an Maya will wrap up this story line and allow the game to move on.

Unless DPC plans to get Zoey into the Burke free tuition plan storyline, i'm afraid Maya's troubles will not be over till Burke and Quinn are exposed. It would really make no sense at all the meeting will just be "sure Maya, here's a scholarship!"...
Either her father pops up again or Burke will want something, whatever happens it will scream drama. All this time DPC made us follow her storyline with the threat of her going into prostitution for a scholarship.... So yeah, Jade not coming to the rescue..