VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

I think Josy does have a Dik side because she is more willing to do crazy things with you(MC) and finds dik choices funny but she draws the line with what happen at pink rose WT says will lose a point with both girls if you take pic. I think there will be a trouple only question is how long will it last if you spent more time with Josy or Maya there be a solo path I believe but that's been said so much its green in the face

Like I said, I think it's the Maya affect.

Josy individually would be different, but Josy 's story, which is non existent, and her personality is heavily affected by Maya, to be fair both where more fun, when we didnt know they are together. I think it was better for Maya too, I liked her bit better to be honest in the firt 4 episode, since then I can help but see her as a ball and chain to Josy

Get on with it jackhammer...

 

[Deleted member 15555]

That's what I hoping for and holding myself to it, if DPC gonna be smart about it, because people wants solo paths , but he already fucked up, because its almost to late, so the only way, if he implement it to the "Three way relationship".

He did not fuck it up, he made it especially like this to fuck up with the players, there is no three-way route, you will be forced to choose, and forcing you into a Maya&Josy relationship or no relationship with any of them (but have feelings for 1) is to create drama in 3rd season...
I think it will be better in the long run if they reject you and you still have feelings for one and force them to break up than being in a 3way relationship that is bound to go in flames later (hopefully not literally this time, sorry for the joke.)

 

[ChipLecsap]

I think it will be better in the long run if they reject you and you still have feelings for one and force them to break up than

That's my point, you not gonna force them to break up, they won't break up. If you choose to be just friends them , that's it. That choice was made in episode 4 , since then, plenty thing happened. And the other paths specifily mention you are friend with the main girls. There is no player who waiting 12 or more episode waiting for them to break up, and don't do any other girl meanwhile. So MC effectively moved on. Yeah he might mention that he still have feeling for Josy if you picked her, but that's just an Algorithm. 6 month for an episode, I dont see that Josy or Maya would get double of the content, based on wheter you are together or not with them, so later can be expended for a solo path. I dont see it, to much work.

What I can see , it's that the three way relationship having 3 different outcome one where you end up with both of them, Yes its gonna be a possibility , and 2 where you end up with one of them.

But there are to many other girl who need content, so dropping onto that mix Jojo and Maya , after this many episode that, " hey wait, Josy and Maya are broke up, now they available" , while there are 20 other girl who need content, nah I don't see it to be that case.

 

[JLP603]

Are the test answers in the restroom lilly's during the midterms? Cuz i have no idea why lilly was making the bj gesture when walking over to him otherwise

 

[TimHawk]

That's my point, you not gonna force them to break up, they won't break up. If you choose to be just friends them , that's it. That choice was made in episode 4 , since then, plenty thing happened. And the other paths specifily mention you are friend with the main girls. There is no player who waiting 12 or more episode waiting for them to break up, and don't do any other girl meanwhile. So MC effectively moved on. Yeah he might mention that he still have feeling for Josy if you picked her, but that's just an Algorithm. 6 month for an episode, I dont see that Josy or Maya would get double of the content, based on wheter you are together or not with them, so later can be expended for a solo path. I dont see it, to much work.

What I can see , it's that the three way relationship having 3 different outcome one where you end up with both of them, Yes its gonna be a possibility , and 2 where you end up with one of them.

But there are to many other girl who need content, so dropping onto that mix Jojo and Maya , after this many episode that, " hey wait, Josy and Maya are broke up, now they available" , while there are 20 other girl who need content, nah I don't see it to be that case.

I see it the exact opposite way.

First of, I dont think the additional content would stop DPC, he made a game with 5 LI's to begin with, made Quinn a quasi LI, added a bunch of girls as repeating sex chars like Lily, Nicole, Rio, Camila, Jade. Whenever he invests ressources into a Char he sticks with it, the only exception being Mona and that might be due to a story thats yet to materialise.

I think the 3way is around to stay and the MC will be the reason why, he already acts as the glue and I think thats gonna make them overcome the Patrick threat.

In the just friends route however, DPC does everything he can to still give you either Maya or Josy choices. You can choose sides when the MC decides who to hang out with and on the way to Maya's dorm when Patrick pops up, and through all of it the MC is giving the choice to try to get handsy, I dont think thats a coincidence.

Josy seems to be just on the edge of taking matters into her own hands with Patrick and Maya seems close to breaking and giving in.

I see 4 potential paths moving forward.

3way --> adapt and overcome --> 3way ending
Just friends --> feelings for Josy --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Josy ending
Just friends --> feelings for Maya --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Maya ending
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy break up --> Stay friends

The 'feelings' decision is one of the very few, that gets its own variable (that makes it over into Season 3), even tho it doesnt lead to a relationship, instead it marks the end of the 3way relationship. I believe thats significant enough to expect future single Maya/Josy path content.

And to be really honest, I suspect it might just happen in Ep09 or 10.

 

[lipe2410]

Like I said, I think it's the Maya affect.
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Josy individually would be different, but Josy 's story, which is non existent, and her personality is heavily affected by Maya, to be fair both where more fun, when we didnt know they are together. I think it was better for Maya too, I liked her bit better to be honest in the firt 4 episode, since then I can help but see her as a ball and chain to Josy



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Your MC name is Scott. You need meet and fuck a Jean Grey in B&R

 

[shazba]

Any major downsides to going male slut and porking everything that moves in this game?

Yeah, when you turn off your PC and realise you didn't really fuck any of them, it hurts.

Also, sex with some girls is mutually exclusive.

NEW Dr.PinkCake avatar on Discord!
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Previously

Why would you trade Michael Jackson in for two HOT babes!?

Oh my god Dalli changed his avatar I repeat Dalli changed his avatar the end is near

I feel really bad that I can't remember what his old avatar looks like - total mind blank!

Jill can reject you? What happens then? You'll go into the other route?

I don't know, does anyone know?

Yep, the mc handles it well enough, either acknowledges they were too different (i.e. he's a DIK, she doesn't like DIKs), or he understands that he didn't pay her enough attention, 'cause ignoring the threat of a lawsuit and climbing up to her balcony to see her, and saving her from public humiliation by putting himself in the spotlight at the risk of his own humiliation, counts for shit - if he didn't ditch a sick Sage and go on her picnic, it means he didn't try hard enough....

Ahem.. sorry.. ranting again...

Anyway, if you select Jill and she dumps the mc, he goes on the "others" path:

mc: "It sucked and hurt, but it wasn't the end of the world."​

mc: "It meant I had to keep trying to find love."​

Not sure how many people got to play through that whole scene. Imagine putting all your eggs in the Jill basket, but not the actual picnic basket, only to have her turn you down after 8 episodes of blue balling!

Spoiler: Not amused...

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[notdoc]

Is there a way to unlock all the scenes without having to play it again? + recommend me some games like this! I already played Acting Lessons.

 

[den_tiger]

I see it the exact opposite way.

First of, I dont think the additional content would stop DPC, he made a game with 5 LI's to begin with, made Quinn a quasi LI, added a bunch of girls as repeating sex chars like Lily, Nicole, Rio, Camila, Jade. Whenever he invests ressources into a Char he sticks with it, the only exception being Mona and that might be due to a story thats yet to materialise.

I think the 3way is around to stay and the MC will be the reason why, he already acts as the glue and I think thats gonna make them overcome the Patrick threat.

In the just friends route however, DPC does everything he can to still give you either Maya or Josy choices. You can choose sides when the MC decides who to hang out with and on the way to Maya's dorm when Patrick pops up, and through all of it the MC is giving the choice to try to get handsy, I dont think thats a coincidence.

Josy seems to be just on the edge of taking matters into her own hands with Patrick and Maya seems close to breaking and giving in.

I see 4 potential paths moving forward.

3way --> adapt and overcome --> 3way ending
Just friends --> feelings for Josy --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Josy ending
Just friends --> feelings for Maya --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Maya ending
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy break up --> Stay friends

The 'feelings' decision is one of the very few, that gets its own variable (that makes it over into Season 3), even tho it doesnt lead to a relationship, instead it marks the end of the 3way relationship. I believe thats significant enough to expect future single Maya/Josy path content.

And to be really honest, I suspect it might just happen in Ep09 or 10.

I see this as 6 possible ways
3way --> adapt and overcome --> 3way ending
3way --> break-up -- > MC and Josy
3way --> break-up -- > MC and Maya
3way --> break-up -- > Maya and Josy (poor MC)
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy break up
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy stay together

I don't think you earn enough RP for either of them in the friends route to get one of them.
If you look into the original choices in chapter 4, it's either a throuple, you reject them or they reject you.
Clearly the MC rates lower in every choice if the girls are the ones to decide. Josy will choose Maya over the MC and Maya will choose the Josy over the MC unless you change something, but you won't get much of a chance to do that in the just friends route.

 

[TimHawk]

I see this as 6 possible ways
3way --> adapt and overcome --> 3way ending
3way --> break-up -- > MC and Josy
3way --> break-up -- > MC and Maya
3way --> break-up -- > Maya and Josy (poor MC)
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy break up
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy stay together

I don't think you earn enough RP for either of them in the friends route to get one of them.
If you look into the original choices in chapter 4, it's either a throuple, you reject them or they reject you.
Clearly the MC rates lower in every choice if the girls are the ones to decide. Josy will choose Maya over the MC and Maya will choose the Josy over the MC unless you change something, but you won't get much of a chance to do that in the just friends route.

I dont think RP will have much of an impact and if anything the fact that you still can earn RP after staying friends with them points towards a single path for each girl.

However you make a good point, it could be that the 'they reject you' aka DIK affinity leads to a potential Josy path and 'you reject them' leads to a potential Maya path, but I honestly havent looked into the differences there for such a long time, I dont even remember if they get a different Variable or if 'just friends' is a universal variable there.

Edit : after a quick check there indeed is.

$ ep4_wantedMoreMayaJosy = False/True
$ ep4_rejectedMayaJosy = False/True

So it could make a difference in enableing or disableing a conditional single Maya or Josy path.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I see it the exact opposite way.

First of, I dont think the additional content would stop DPC, he made a game with 5 LI's to begin with, made Quinn a quasi LI, added a bunch of girls as repeating sex chars like Lily, Nicole, Rio, Camila, Jade. Whenever he invests ressources into a Char he sticks with it, the only exception being Mona and that might be due to a story thats yet to materialise.

I think the 3way is around to stay and the MC will be the reason why, he already acts as the glue and I think thats gonna make them overcome the Patrick threat.

In the just friends route however, DPC does everything he can to still give you either Maya or Josy choices. You can choose sides when the MC decides who to hang out with and on the way to Maya's dorm when Patrick pops up, and through all of it the MC is giving the choice to try to get handsy, I dont think thats a coincidence.

Josy seems to be just on the edge of taking matters into her own hands with Patrick and Maya seems close to breaking and giving in.

I see 4 potential paths moving forward.

3way --> adapt and overcome --> 3way ending
Just friends --> feelings for Josy --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Josy ending
Just friends --> feelings for Maya --> others --> Maya and Josy break up --> Maya ending
Just friends --> No feelings --> Maya and Josy break up --> Stay friends

The 'feelings' decision is one of the very few, that gets its own variable (that makes it over into Season 3), even tho it doesnt lead to a relationship, instead it marks the end of the 3way relationship. I believe thats significant enough to expect future single Maya/Josy path content.

And to be really honest, I suspect it might just happen in Ep09 or 10.

We talk about a guy, who simplified the Sage MC scene, with the rebound guy talk. The reason why the Rebound guy talk exist, because, it would be time consuming to create different scenes around it, calculating every previous choice. So he chose the simple neutral way, that conversation exist and it does not matter if you are sage fuck budd,y everything go back the way it was in the next scene between them.
Creating so many different possibilities for Josy and Maya outside of the Three way relationship, is simply time consuming, and not worth it. If there would been a solo path for them outside of the Threesome relationship , it would already happend by now. And the difference between what you saying is he added more girls, is the variety.

Just look at the game how its functioning. There is only 2 way, you either interested in a girl or not. and the games revolve around this. You either on Bella path or not, if you not you barely see her, same as Quinn, as prominent antagonist she was in the first season, She pretty much meaningless if you not on "her path". She and MC barely interact. Every other content is just the nessecary story content

Josy and Maya are no different, you either on their path, and then you can see the stuff, or not, and then you only interact with them for the necessary amount of time.
And ep 8 ending was the final nail in the coffin. Now we have the branching storyline, thats lots of lots of fucking work, to keep it balanced.

I could en up being wrong, but I dont think I will. But we will be smarter after ep 9

 

[Ilhares]

The best way to teach Jill a lesson is to break up with her and end up with Chad and Troy and tell her that you had enough of her bullshit.

Take Nick along with you, you'll need somebody to BS with while Chad & Troy are busy, unless he joins in with them, too. I've been wondering for a while now if that's actually Nick's secret, and not that he's betrayed the house to Vinny.

 

[TimHawk]

We talk about a guy, who simplified the Sage MC scene, with the rebound guy talk. The reason why the Rebound guy talk exist, because, it would be time consuming to create different scenes around it, calculating every previous choice. So he chose the simple neutral way, that conversation exist and it does not matter if you are sage fuck budd,y everything go back the way it was in the next scene between them.
Creating so many different possibilities for Josy and Maya outside of the Three way relationship, is simply time consuming, and not worth it. If there would been a solo path for them outside of the Threesome relationship , it would already happend by now. And the difference between what you saying is he added more girls, is the variety.

Just look at the game how its functioning. There is only 2 way, you either interested in a girl or not. and the games revolve around this. You either on Bella path or not, if you not you barely see her, same as Quinn, as prominent antagonist she was in the first season, She pretty much meaningless if you not on "her path". She and MC barely interact. Every other content is just the nessecary story content

Josy and Maya are no different, you either on their path, and then you can see the stuff, or not, and then you only interact with them for the necessary amount of time.
And ep 8 ending was the final nail in the coffin. Now we have the branching storyline, thats lots of lots of fucking work, to keep it balanced.

I could en up being wrong, but I dont think I will. But we will be smarter after ep 9

I think the entire rebound guy talk has just 1 purpose, to delay the Sage decision and move it to the end of Episode 8 where the major branching takes place. Sage and MC already had their talk about MC's mom talk and cuddle in bed moment, they couldve become a couple right there and then, but I believe it was delayed for the purpose stated above.

And yes, the price to pay for a potential Josy or Maya single path, seems to be sacrificing all the 3way content, but honestly I wouldnt expect it to be any different.

And think about something for a moment, which actually triggered my last line in the last reply to you.

You choose Bella, you tell Bella.
You choose Sage, you tell Sage.
You choose Jill, you tell Jill.
You choose Maya/Josy, and .... nothing.

And again, this :

$ ep5_feelingsForJosy = False/True
$ ep5_feelingsForMaya = False/True

has to have some sort of impact down the line, otherwise why remember it at all ?

But just as you said, I could be way off and we never get a single Maya/Josy path, but if I had to bet right now, I'd be all-in on 'Yes, we will'.

 

[ChipLecsap]

$ ep5_feelingsForJosy = False/True
$ ep5_feelingsForMaya = False/True

has to have some sort of impact down the line, otherwise why remember it at all ?

But just as you said, I could be way off and we never get a single Maya/Josy path, but if I had to bet right now, I'd be all-in on 'Yes, we will'.

That's a flag, reminder for DPC for episode 7. You have a different scene with Josy , in episode 7 if you dont fuck her. Thats what its purpose was, nothing more. Its still what I say, either A or B scene, there is nor C, D, F , Scene.
The rebound guy talk, did not take into consideration your episode 6 decisions. It is the same whether you are Fuck Buddy with Sage or not, or if you are but you go in to date with Jill instead. See waht I mean. That scene exsited the way it is for the next scene in the Hot's party.

It's allowed the player to Enter Sage relationship, or path, if they were not until this point, But if you already where it's basically just the same scene. All this because overal it take less work. its two with one stone. You right on the we don't have the talk with Josy and Maya at episode 8 ending, and episode 9 could be the one, that resolve this. May be Dik affinity MC get rejected, by them, or may be Josy this time chose MC over Maya in that case. But this trully only exist if you part of their relatinship. Otherwise it does not matter, You can't even chose to be wiht them if you not part of their relationship already.

See, where I'm going with this? If there is a solo path with any of them at all, It can only be bloomed from the actual relationship you already in.
If you not part of their relationship, they are in a different bubble.

Now, may be they break up, and thats allow you to pick one, may be, but what I'm saying is that its extra work, and does not fit in the story, because episode 4 was long time ago. He even have a line in I think episode 7 or 8 if you are jsut friend with them . to Derek, he say, thats what I did wiht Josy, ( or Maya ) , moved on. When Derek say, he moves on from Ash. I will search it for you . May be I wont becasue I dont have save anymore form that part

 

[ChipLecsap]

so here it as I said,:
Just friend with Josy and Maya, but told derek still have feeling for Josy in episode 5 :

vs
Being on Josy path:


this is where those " flags" were used. But as you can see and this where the actual gameplay and conversations comes in play, MC in the first options, basically telling Derek, He is moving on. On the Friends path. Whereas the second option, the three way realtinship, He said, He "tried" , but we know how that worked out. .

So with everything all together, I hold myself to it , that in this moment the fact , if you were not part of the Josy Maya relationship, then thats it for it, and that ship has sailed.
IF episode 7 would have been different, if when Josy moved to the Hots, was truly a breaking point for Jojo and Maya relationship, that could have been the individual sole path for them, or at least a start of it
But it didnt have any affect at all.

 

[TimHawk]

That's a flag, reminder for DPC for episode 7. You have a different scene with Josy , in episode 7 if you dont fuck her. Thats what its purpose was, nothing more. Its still what I say, either A or B scene, there is nor C, D, F , Scene.
The rebound guy talk, did not take into consideration your episode 6 decisions. It is the same whether you are Fuck Buddy with Sage or not, or if you are but you go in to date with Jill instead. See waht I mean. That scene exsited the way it is for the next scene in the Hot's party.

It's allowed the player to Enter Sage relationship, or path, if they were not until this point, But if you already where it's basically just the same scene. All this because overal it take less work. its two with one stone. You right on the we don't have the talk with Josy and Maya at episode 8 ending, and episode 9 could be the one, that resolve this. May be Dik affinity MC get rejected, by them, or may be Josy this time chose MC over Maya in that case. But this trully only exist if you part of their relatinship. Otherwise it does not matter, You can't even chose to be wiht them if you not part of their relationship already.

See, where I'm going with this? If there is a solo path with any of them at all, It can only be bloomed from the actual relationship you already in.
If you not part of their relationship, they are in a different bubble.

Now, may be they break up, and thats allow you to pick one, may be, but what I'm saying is that its extra work, and does not fit in the story, because episode 4 was long time ago. He even have a line in I think episode 7 or 8 if you are jsut friend with them . to Derek, he say, thats what I did wiht Josy, ( or Maya ) , moved on. When Derek say, he moves on from Ash. I will search it for you . May be I wont becasue I dont have save anymore form that part

I see what you mean and I absolutely love it that we can play the game and come to 2 completely different opinions.

For me it was always crystal clear that there is not a snowball chance in hell, that the 3way can ever evolve into a single path. I just cant see either Maya or Josy breaking up and then on top of that steal their man away from the other, and I dont see a MC on a Maya/Josy path going along with it either.

And the flag has been used for 'just' that YET, but it could certainly come into play later aswell. It did move over to the S3 interlude.

For me the next big confirmation was the "others" choice at the end of EP8. Yea, I knew it keeps Quinn alive and opens up the path for Zoey, but it also seems to me like the perfect segway to the breakup.

Maya/Josy are the only choice the MC doesnt inform of his choice and then they walk into a situation which probably features Maya's last chance of breaking free of Patrick. It just works out soooo smoothly. If the MC is their boyfriend, there probably will be a price to pay for him to assure Maya gets the help she needs, and if he is 'just a friend' he will stand there and see it all explode because Josy wont put up with another 3 years of Patrick-prison or Maya will finally fold under the pressure.

Admittingly your version is more efficient, because all Maya and Josy content will be under one roof and players can enjoy all of it in one playthrough, whereas my version strictly seperates the two and its basically another choice that locks you out of certain content.

At least we agree that a break up will happen under certain conditions, so there is consensus.

Man, I cant wait for Ep09, it will put us so much closer to the solution.

 

[den_tiger]

I see what you mean and I absolutely love it that we can play the game and come to 2 completely different opinions.

For me it was always crystal clear that there is not a snowball chance in hell, that the 3way can ever evolve into a single path. I just cant see either Maya or Josy breaking up and then on top of that steal their man away from the other, and I dont see a MC on a Maya/Josy path going along with it either.

And the flag has been used for 'just' that YET, but it could certainly come into play later aswell. It did move over to the S3 interlude.

For me the next big confirmation was the "others" choice at the end of EP8. Yea, I knew it keeps Quinn alive and opens up the path for Zoey, but it also seems to me like the perfect segway to the breakup.

Maya/Josy are the only choice the MC doesnt inform of his choice and then they walk into a situation which probably features Maya's last chance of breaking free of Patrick. It just works out soooo smoothly. If the MC is their boyfriend, there probably will be a price to pay for him to assure Maya gets the help she needs, and if he is 'just a friend' he will stand there and see it all explode because Josy wont put up with another 3 years of Patrick-prison or Maya will finally fold under the pressure.

Admittingly your version is more efficient, because all Maya and Josy content will be under one roof and players can enjoy all of it in one playthrough, whereas my version strictly seperates the two and its basically another choice that locks you out of certain content.

At least we agree that a break up will happen under certain conditions, so there is consensus.

Man, I cant wait for Ep09, it will put us so much closer to the solution.

I don't agree with Zoey being in the Others category. The bigger impact would be the Jill and M&J route. You just settled on your choice and suddenly here comes the ex-GF to kick up the dust again.

Zoey would have lesser impact on the Bella route, especially if you were dating Jill. There's enough trouble in that already.

 

[Walter Victor]

That's a flag, reminder for DPC for episode 7. You have a different scene with Josy , in episode 7 if you dont fuck her. Thats what its purpose was, nothing more. Its still what I say, either A or B scene, there is nor C, D, F , Scene.
The rebound guy talk, did not take into consideration your episode 6 decisions. It is the same whether you are Fuck Buddy with Sage or not, or if you are but you go in to date with Jill instead. See waht I mean. That scene exsited the way it is for the next scene in the Hot's party.

It's allowed the player to Enter Sage relationship, or path, if they were not until this point, But if you already where it's basically just the same scene. All this because overal it take less work. its two with one stone. You right on the we don't have the talk with Josy and Maya at episode 8 ending, and episode 9 could be the one, that resolve this. May be Dik affinity MC get rejected, by them, or may be Josy this time chose MC over Maya in that case. But this trully only exist if you part of their relatinship. Otherwise it does not matter, You can't even chose to be wiht them if you not part of their relationship already.

See, where I'm going with this? If there is a solo path with any of them at all, It can only be bloomed from the actual relationship you already in.
If you not part of their relationship, they are in a different bubble.

Now, may be they break up, and thats allow you to pick one, may be, but what I'm saying is that its extra work, and does not fit in the story, because episode 4 was long time ago. He even have a line in I think episode 7 or 8 if you are jsut friend with them . to Derek, he say, thats what I did wiht Josy, ( or Maya ) , moved on. When Derek say, he moves on from Ash. I will search it for you . May be I wont becasue I dont have save anymore form that part

There is actually very little that depends on those two flags, for now. You get to comfort Maya or Josy even if you are not on pathMayaJosy. But other than a relationship point or two, and there are a couple of text differences, that's about it.

I too have wondered if you can get with just one of them outside of the Maya/Josy path, and that's why I've sucked up to Maya in my CHICK path, and to Josy in my DIK path, but it remains to be seen if anything will come of that in the future.

There is also no doubt that in pathMayaJosy, the player can favor one over the other, which results in sex-scene differences (which to me are significant enough to see both). Don't know how that will play out either. Dr Pink Cake seems to realize that not everyone likes both characters, but wants to keep that pairing alive and thriving. So he gives those people enough choices along the way to allow them to play that route without them gnashing their teeth too much.

So, solo paths for Maya and Josy could be possible, but the complexity might be too much. Don't forget that we will most likely have Zoey to add even more complexity to an already complex situation. Epilogues could be a possibility here, but that's a loooooong wait for anyone who wants that.

 

[shazba]

so here it as I said,:
Just friend with Josy and Maya, but told derek still have feeling for Josy in episode 5 :
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vs
Being on Josy path:
View attachment 1779128

this is where those " flags" were used. But as you can see and this where the actual gameplay and conversations comes in play, MC in the first options, basically telling Derek, He is moving on. On the Friends path. Whereas the second option, the three way realtinship, He said, He "tried" , but we know how that worked out. .

So with everything all together, I hold myself to it , that in this moment the fact , if you were not part of the Josy Maya relationship, then thats it for it, and that ship has sailed.
IF episode 7 would have been different, if when Josy moved to the Hots, was truly a breaking point for Jojo and Maya relationship, that could have been the individual sole path for them, or at least a start of it
But it didnt have any affect at all.

I see what you mean and I absolutely love it that we can play the game and come to 2 completely different opinions.

For me it was always crystal clear that there is not a snowball chance in hell, that the 3way can ever evolve into a single path. I just cant see either Maya or Josy breaking up and then on top of that steal their man away from the other, and I dont see a MC on a Maya/Josy path going along with it either.

And the flag has been used for 'just' that YET, but it could certainly come into play later aswell. It did move over to the S3 interlude.

For me the next big confirmation was the "others" choice at the end of EP8. Yea, I knew it keeps Quinn alive and opens up the path for Zoey, but it also seems to me like the perfect segway to the breakup.

Maya/Josy are the only choice the MC doesnt inform of his choice and then they walk into a situation which probably features Maya's last chance of breaking free of Patrick. It just works out soooo smoothly. If the MC is their boyfriend, there probably will be a price to pay for him to assure Maya gets the help she needs, and if he is 'just a friend' he will stand there and see it all explode because Josy wont put up with another 3 years of Patrick-prison or Maya will finally fold under the pressure.

Admittingly your version is more efficient, because all Maya and Josy content will be under one roof and players can enjoy all of it in one playthrough, whereas my version strictly seperates the two and its basically another choice that locks you out of certain content.

At least we agree that a break up will happen under certain conditions, so there is consensus.

Man, I cant wait for Ep09, it will put us so much closer to the solution.

There is actually very little that depends on those two flags, for now. You get to comfort Maya or Josy even if you are not on pathMayaJosy. But other than a relationship point or two, and there are a couple of text differences, that's about it.

I too have wondered if you can get with just one of them outside of the Maya/Josy path, and that's why I've sucked up to Maya in my CHICK path, and to Josy in my DIK path, but it remains to be seen if anything will come of that in the future.

There is also no doubt that in pathMayaJosy, the player can favor one over the other, which results in sex-scene differences (which to me are significant enough to see both). Don't know how that will play out either. Dr Pink Cake seems to realize that not everyone likes both characters, but wants to keep that pairing alive and thriving. So he gives those people enough choices along the way to allow them to play that route without them gnashing their teeth too much.

So, solo paths for Maya and Josy could be possible, but the complexity might be too much. Don't forget that we will most likely have Zoey to add even more complexity to an already complex situation. Epilogues could be a possibility here, but that's a loooooong wait for anyone who wants that.

One disappointing scene was when the mc "defends" Josy from Alex (I think it was Alex, one of the Jocks anyway) at the HOTs party: If you're not on Josy's path with Maya, and the mc pretends to be her boyfriend and kisses her to get rid of the jock, she kinda freaks out and wants to forget it happened.

As far as the game is concerned though, it's forgotten immediately, i.e. there is no flag set to suggest the mc did that. I was hoping all these little side actions with Josy could add up to something later in the game...

 

[TimHawk]

I don't agree with Zoey being in the Others category. The bigger impact would be the Jill and M&J route. You just settled on your choice and suddenly here comes the ex-GF to kick up the dust again.

Zoey would have lesser impact on the Bella route, especially if you were dating Jill. There's enough trouble in that already.

If Zoey wont end up in the 'others' category, you will witness this forum exploding and DPC's inbox overflowing with hate mail.

If he made an entire Interlude and delayed Season 3, just for Zoey to be an anoyance for those players who just commited, the Interludes reception will go from mediocre to 'lets all meet up and find a nice tree to lynch DPC'.