None saying it's not Filler that's not MY point. It was Good content. Some of the best episode of Supernatural, Smallville, Walking Dead, Battlestar Galactica, etc, The Mandatory Beach episodes in Animes were Fillers.
.. Just like nobody bitching about Nora. More Good Milf to Fuck YEAH!!!. 
Before I knew that there was an Interlude coming, I expected nothing from Zoey. I only thought she was something to show a sympathetic side when the MC was speaking with others, particularly Bella.
Doing that would have done little to change my initial impression of Zoey. I needed to see what had actually happened to change my views. So, in my case at least, DPC's time was well invested.
However, I am strange in that I am not automatically turned off by games with female or even multiple protagonists. 
sure there are some good filler episodes in those tv shows, but their format doesnt really compare to the adult VN genre and the way DPC does things.None saying it's not Filler that's not MY point. It was Good content. Some of the best episode of Supernatural, Smallville, Walking Dead, Battlestar Galactica, etc, The Mandatory Beach episodes in Animes were Fillers.
Madame, is not Good Content. But if it Was Envy , none would Bitch about it
Nothing shows more DPC's "bad writing" than Madame be the VIP Scort in a Club that have Nicole. Pure nonsenseMadame, is not Good Content. But if it Was Envy , none would Bitch about it
I like female protagonists, at least in theory. If the Interlude had been it's own game, I probably would have liked it based purely on the fact that it had a female protagonist game without a corruption theme! But it's not its own game, and that distinction made it a lot harder to get into.Before I knew that there was an Interlude coming, I expected nothing from Zoey. I only thought she was something to show a sympathetic side when the MC was speaking with others, particularly Bella.
I feared her actual return, which I thought was inevitable.
Doing that would have done little to change my initial impression of Zoey. I needed to see what had actually happened to change my views. So, in my case at least, DPC's time was well invested.
And here's the kicker - for me: I thought the Interlude was a lot of fun to play!
Typically we mould our mc as we get to know the other characters, and in doing so we may compromise our intentions for our mc if we take a liking to a certain character or other (e.g. making DIK choices to get with Quinn, or toning the mc down to stay with M&J). This has worked throughout the game until the mc achieved a permanent affinity.I very much agree. One of the things I noticed about the dual-protagonist setup in Our Red String is how much less effective the romance is when you influence both sides of the relationship.
Better to make Zoey her own character and allow us to react to her as we will, but DPC insists on keeping his thumb on the scale - by forcing us to put our own thumb on it.
I kinda agree. I don't know that DPC did himself any favours by going all-in on Zoey's back story. A few people changed their tune about her, but she simply wasn't awesome enough to seriously rock the boat.
I think there are more fans of DnG than you realise.
You know, the more I think about the Interlude the more it reminds me of Acting Lessons in one very specific way: it's a well-polished tale where we meet fun characters and make choices that turn out to be irrelevant because the actual decisions are set in stone by outside forces. On the plus side, no one died in a fire. But on the negative side, the Interlude doesn't even get around to showing the big choices because Zoey still hasn't committed to a new path when it ends. She's still just going where the waves take her, so what was the point?Typically we mould our mc as we get to know the other characters, and in doing so we may compromise our intentions for our mc if we take a liking to a certain character or other (e.g. making DIK choices to get with Quinn, or toning the mc down to stay with M&J). This has worked throughout the game until the mc achieved a permanent affinity.
However, when it comes to Zoey, the mc's character is already set in concrete. At this point he's either a DIK or a Chick, and to bring a new character in after this solidification of the mc's personality, certain players may be already locked out of deep involvement in a character that they were not expecting in the first place, but may end up being an integral character in the plot.
Hence the ability to shape Zoey's edges (be they rough or be they smooth). But it's still a gamble. I agree that omnipotently changing a character dulls the relationship. This is in strong contrast to the mc's own influence changing someone, like the enjoyable evolution of Quinn.
So yeah, DPC bringing in what could possibly be an important character (she could just be doing a cameo for one episode for all we know, but they why spend so much time on her introduction) is a bit unorthodox, and being able to shape her as we see fit is also a strange decision, but hopefully it just gives us 4 times the fun!
I kinda agree. I don't know that DPC did himself any favours by going all-in on Zoey's back story. A few people changed their tune about her, but she simply wasn't awesome enough to seriously rock the boat.
She's very human, and has many faults, which a lot of people enjoy about the characters in this game, but as a late starter, she either needed to endure something tragic, or achieve something momentous, to universally entrench endearment among the players; that didn't happen. The closest thing to that was her guitar playing (both tragic and momentous at the same time).
I enjoyed the Interlude, but I only played it seriously once, so compared to the rest of BaDIK, I'd have to say it was a fail. I think it's just too long to say what it needed to say.
Believe it or not I'm a D&G fan. I liked playing through the adventure. But those sex scenes added nothing beyond padding. As King SomboSteel said, the MC couldn't even fantasize about fucking Jill.I think there are more fans of DnG than you realise.
Personally, I truly hope there will be at least one or two more campaigns before BaDIK is done and dusted. But I get the gripe against it; all the sex scenes are meaningless, they don't progress the mc's relationships in any way at all. But they were still a bit of fun.
She and Josy attended the same gymnastics academy.
Well, I don't compare it to Acting Lessons. .
They only common thing is that they are both Renpy.. what you might feel as a Waste of Time, others might find it fun, and vice versa. , and Every time When DPC work of a render or animation of them, I could consider it as a Waste of precious development Time . But would it be true ? or fair ? Probably not, in fact It would make me look really stupid. Who know, may be She is indeed Tommy mother ?!
the two are quite related, aren't they? Whether Zoey acted like Attila, spreading salt on the ground and not growing anything anymore, or whether she went back to MC while still theoretically being able to stay in San DiegoI *think* the importance of choosing how Zoey dealt with Emma will manifest in Zoey, not in how it affected the San Diego crew directly. It will inform how she handles the MC moving on from her in Season 3, should that come to pass. A Zoey who talked Emma down will try to win the MC over by telling him how she feels and being there for him, whereas a vengeful Zoey will try to undermine her competition and seduce the MC.
That's my guess, anyway. Adding Zoey's friends to the mix on a repeated basis seems like a complete waste of time and narrative focus to me. Then again, I've disliked nearly everything DPC has done since the crossroads so I may be completely off-base. We'll see.
Eventually.
well, for a filler to not even be enjoyable is the worst that can happen to itNone saying it's not Filler that's not MY point. It was Good content. Some of the best episode of Supernatural, Smallville, Walking Dead, Battlestar Galactica, etc, The Mandatory Beach episodes in Animes were Fillers.
Madame, is not Good Content. But if it Was Envy , none would Bitch about it
I meant that women dont respect other women that start fighting women, they pick a side which is their friend (regardless if right or wrong) and support them. Its not a resolution, its a resounding failure. It would start with a fractured HOT sorority, and on top pf that you cant have a leader that failed at solving things through feelings, discussion, compromise and then agreement. How do you pick a leader out of someone that start fighting? If Maya becomes a leader its horrible writing. The HOTs would need years of new management goals and new members that align with Mayas feminist beliefs beyond the obvious things she have not yet worked through and holding her back like her family situation, economic situation and love situation.It's not about reconciliation either. Maya and Quinn will never be friends. It's about making sure the HOT girls have seen so Quinn isn't untouchable. So that her hard shell can be broken.
That's what Maya accomplished with the slap.
I almost feel the opposite about filler content in a game like this.
you compared this to a weekly tv show, but if we got very frequent and very consistent updates with this game then I wouldn’t mind meandering around the narrative and exploring the world some more. I’m glad if you can just “enjoy the ride” but lots of other people don’t like waiting forever only to discover yet again next to no narrative progression has been made. All of us were drawn to this game because of the characters and the overall story, but if nothing ever happens then it just amounts to masturbatory nonsense. And there are already tons of games that accomplish that on this site. This game and DPC clearly has more to offer and i think it will feel like a waste if it just becomes a slide show of sex scenes after years of development.
so You not planning to pass them the torch? Teaching them the way of the Force. Educating them for the proper Culture?
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