If you do "everything but one thing right" then you didn't, in fact, do everything right. This is no different from getting locked out of every other route where you didn't meet all of the prerequisites. It's pretty silly to single out Jill on such basis as if she's treating the MC differently than other girls who will also block him if he's not to their liking.
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Unless I'm mistaken, Sage doesn't bitch about not helping her if we go the picnic instead.
if you promise to help her i think she does (you just have to not call her if you want to go to with Jill)
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Of course, a picnic date is much more important for the relationship with Jill than how I kept her from embarrassing herself at the concert and saved her entire performance. But anyway Tremolo, fuck you, you didn't go to the picnic with me! Whatever
We'll see how it goes soon.
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Thanks for the clarification, I'll have to check it out.
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It would seem that Broccoli is a divisive taste. I think it’s an interesting character development to experience during a DIK run.
Ultimately I think that DPC has put a significant amount of sympathetic actions, and words into Quinn. To me that hints heavily at a redemption arc. Her brother seems to be the architect behind the operation, and unlike Quinn he seems violent and scary.
I know the tasing was super fucked up, but ultimately harmless. A messed up prank rather than an attempt at harm. It doesn’t make it okay. Neither is her back pouncing and groin kicking, but again it’s more like a cat play fighting than a reptile’s killer instinct.
All her wickedness aside, she doesn’t even slap Maya back when she gets hit. During the roof scene she’s concerned about the MC falling off of the roof and have him hold on to the chimney.
I think that Quinn is scared shitless of her brother. I think it was his and possibly Vinny’s idea to get her into B&R in order to sling drugs. I don’t know if the hooking was Quinn’s idea to get something out of it for herself, or dictated to her. She doesn’t appear to study, and implies to Rio that their hustle is all they have.
I mean if her brother cared for her, she could’ve walked back short with a bloody nose and gotten some slack. Even drug dealing gangsters, could be expected to have leniency towards their younger siblings.
Instead she desperately hustles to not be short on the next trip, dreading the consequences. Given that her brother almost stabbed someone over nothing that seems like a smart move.
Or maybe she’s just a viper, about to drag the MC down. Regardless we will be entertained, and for that reason plus her wits, I like Quinn.
Ultimately I think that DPC has put a significant amount of sympathetic actions, and words into Quinn. To me that hints heavily at a redemption arc. Her brother seems to be the architect behind the operation, and unlike Quinn he seems violent and scary.
I know the tasing was super fucked up, but ultimately harmless. A messed up prank rather than an attempt at harm. It doesn’t make it okay. Neither is her back pouncing and groin kicking, but again it’s more like a cat play fighting than a reptile’s killer instinct.
All her wickedness aside, she doesn’t even slap Maya back when she gets hit. During the roof scene she’s concerned about the MC falling off of the roof and have him hold on to the chimney.
I think that Quinn is scared shitless of her brother. I think it was his and possibly Vinny’s idea to get her into B&R in order to sling drugs. I don’t know if the hooking was Quinn’s idea to get something out of it for herself, or dictated to her. She doesn’t appear to study, and implies to Rio that their hustle is all they have.
I mean if her brother cared for her, she could’ve walked back short with a bloody nose and gotten some slack. Even drug dealing gangsters, could be expected to have leniency towards their younger siblings.
Instead she desperately hustles to not be short on the next trip, dreading the consequences. Given that her brother almost stabbed someone over nothing that seems like a smart move.
Or maybe she’s just a viper, about to drag the MC down. Regardless we will be entertained, and for that reason plus her wits, I like Quinn.
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By her 'brother' do you mean the guy with white hair who tells 'Q' to get back to sleep, and the one he nearly stabs because he said she was a rat ?
Cause that's her father. The stars she has as makeup is what he also had, that her way to remember him. While it's blurry, I think he's been dead for a while. And her mother is a wreck and doesn't even remember her, and she's what, 19 ?
The one her father nearly stabs is Buddy (I think ?), the one who gives Quinn her shares.
Otherwise, I have similar viewpoints as yours.
What's your point? Banging either Josy or Maya is more important for the two of them than anything else you'd otherwise do for them up to the point where you ask them to become a throuple. Wear a dick hat at the wrong time, speak to wrong person at the party and punch an obnoxious asshole, and Isabela won't let you stay at her place and start her romance path. All girls have their priorities, and regardless how you feel about rationality of their expectations, if you don't meet them, you're out. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
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Here, I try to think rationally, yes. That is, imagine the situation - you are doing everything possible for her, saving her performance. This is a very brave and dignified act, Tremolo shows that he will always cover Jill's back and will always be there. But she still rejects you because... you missed one date a few weeks ago.
Bella is not that demanding. You can be a DIK in her path, the main thing is not to be an asshole with her.
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Ahhh right, I completely missed that it was a flashback, also makes the height markings make way more sense. Must've zoned out and just jumped to conclusions when i saw that scene. Gotcha. But yeah substitute her father with Buddy, and I think that's sorta the deal with her.
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You gave more importance to the whole concert than what truly was. And you build your bias dislike toward jill, based on it. Lame, so Fucking Lame.
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If I was so biased in disliking Jill I wouldn't have two Jill saves. And the concert is very important to her. Damn, we have been preparing for this concert since the end of the Ep2You gave more importance to the whole concert than what truly was. And you build your bias dislike toward jill, based on it. Lame, so Fucking Lame.
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I apologize , You simply just misunderstood the importance of the concert, then
It is a personal storyline for Jill, but it's not an important thing for MC and Jill Relationship. You can help Jill regardless if you are on romantic path or not.
And since it's also an optional thing for player, whether they actually click on the guitar and practice that song or not, it's not a deciding factor. Jill will have sex with MC even if she not perform.
so overall, it is a bonus rather than a milestone, unlike the "picnic ", which is an important milestone, that lead to the next step.
of course the Dik affinity is an another thing, that is a nonsense, for sure.
but even that, is not about the concert, but, about that Jill looks at the moon and decide that something is off with MC . and You automatically friendzoned.
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Wow, Jill's sex scene is honestly a 10/10 moment. The slow burn leading to the scene, the music, the candlelight, those thick juicy thighs... eroticism was through the roof. The pillow talk was sweet too.
I don't find anything weird about it, really. Helping Jill with her performance is a very sweet gesture and she's clearly grateful for it, but that's all it is -- a (very) friendly gesture. It doesn't create a romantic spark/tension the was a special date does (Jill is both too freaked out and focused on her own performance for it to happen) And that's what Jill's rejection ultimately boils down to -- whether she's experienced something with the MC that causes her to view him as a romantic interest, not just a good and dependable friend.
Put it differently -- she doesn't "owe" the MC a romance because he's "saved" her. If she wants a romance, it's because she's experienced something with the guy that really turns her on.
Bella will potentially treat you like trash unworthy of her nor Jill based on a few minor events completely unrelated to how you treat her. Mind you, this isn't a complaint -- i find the resulting, slow rate and gradual development of understanding and friendship between Isabella and the MC much more believable and satisfying than the abrupt romance.
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I hate the concert and after 5 times in a row watching it when you have several saves for different routes the worst thing is that at least giving skip did not matter because I think another part was coming
It's like the tennis match with Isabella in EP 7 and after playing it several times it becomes annoying
It's like the tennis match with Isabella in EP 7 and after playing it several times it becomes annoying
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I've pointed out DPC's attention to detail numerous times, but I thought that candle was above and beyond even for him.
He made the candle flicker.
He made the goddamn candle flicker.
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I'm gonna drop this here and just walk away for the day.
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Bella is a bit judgmental towards people, not getting to know them better. She herself mentioned this in a conversation with Jill and admits that this is her problem. When they were discussing Sage, during their first date, ruined by Bella.
And here's an interesting question, why did Sage not want to communicate with Jill? Does she hate elitist snobs and their way of life, everything connected with them? Or maybe something else?
Yes. I agree about the Bell/MC relationship. I like their gradual development.