VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[funkymonkeyjedi]

1. I disagree with you. Take BADIK for what is it. Adult visual novel with decent story.
2. This point I actually agree. I think ep9 will age well when looked at when season 3 is done. It felt short but it did plant seeds for future conflicts.
3. I mean he wouldnt be where he is without fanbase and patrons. I respect his vision for main story and plot, but in the end you need to give your fanbase what they want.There is a reason good guy always win at the end of action movie.
4. Once again we go back to point 1.Your average consumer doesnt really care about that.They bought the game to see some porn and thats it. Decent story is a bonus.

Personally I have to push back on some of this. Not against your entire post because I think you're correct on point #1 & 2, but to make sure we're all still grounded on firm footing. DPC is writing a visual novel. How this works is not "Let's see what the ppl want to read about", it's his idea and his story to tell. Fact people are getting lured in by the lewd content is simply a bonus for him as far as revenue is concerned.

I get what you are trying to get across, but your argument would hold more water if it were about a regular "WASD" FPS game or MMO. But in general most non sandboxed VN's typically have a storyboard to follow no matter what the reader thinks it should be like. Most of my criticisms on VNs are generally grammar based and DPC doesn't have issues with grammar. But some other VNs though, it's like you'll have a very competent programmer at the helm, but it's like the fucker never opened a book in his life.

If the fans aren't happy with how Ep9 turned out, well that's just tough cookie. But DPC owes no one anything outside of his contractual obligations with other publishing platforms. To any of us? He doesn't owe anyone anything no matter what people would think the story should be like.

 

[ffive]

Everyone loves badik's story, but then when they have to talk about it the only quality would be better than most of the other avn, which are often semi-amateurishly written by people who have problens with English. Good but not great

Honestly, it's also quite on par with plenty of YA novels, including some of the acclaimed drivel.

 

[Darkwen]

The story:
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The best story

 

[lipe2410]

Miss you. It's been so long

 

[Joshy92]

I'm probably in the minority but I have not jacked off to this game ever
I have other lesser games for that
I have played a lot of games on here and I find this to have some of the best relationship building and writing around
That's why I think of this game as a work of art not just porn

 

[ffive]

I'm probably in the minority but I have not jacked off to this game ever

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The are three things in life that are sure to happen: life, death and waiting for DPC to finish his animations

I wasn't here until the Ep.9 development cycle, was that crap with waiting for animations to finish rendering at the end not in every cycle? It seems there was another person who did statistics like mpa71, but with graphs.

 

[ffive]

was that crap with waiting for animations to finish rendering at the end not in every cycle?

Yup, the animations pretty much always take the longest to complete, this is standard drama.

 

[Joshy92]

Haha if I was going to jack it to any girl in this game it would be Maya
God she is stunning
And like I have said before her sweetness is part of what makes her so attractive

 

[Darkwen]

I wasn't here until the Ep.9 development cycle, was that crap with waiting for animations to finish rendering at the end not in every cycle? It seems there was another person who did statistics like mpa71, but with graphs.

I didn't start playing until after episode 7 came out back then there was like two or three people doing stats

 

[legend_shon]

i started reading this post and was like, yes, this guy gets it. i appreciate the keyboard jedi........then the tybalt crack......how dare you sir! derek is a bro amongst bros! he gives you a roof when you had none, and a shirt if he had 1. we repay this act of kindness by defiling his sister, and hes still got our backs. when said backs are against the wall because mc wont bang a teacher, or wear a dildo on his head. derek, yet again, saves the day by dawning the helmet of shame like a majestic uni-moose, while fighting the good fight against femi-nazis, and diving on granny grenades. what does he ask in return? dont hurt my sis, and every now and then, help me revenge bomb a nerd. yeah, he gets overexcited, and when left alone you can expect to come home to find.....well that part is scary, cuz you never know, and its likely gross, but you could say the same about a puppy. in conclusion, if you wouldnt kick a puppy, you shouldnt bash derek.

this public service announcement was paid for by the moose lounge. wanna cut loose? visit the moose!

And there is no option in ep 9 even to thank derek, where he ask us to help with camilla. Feel sad for him. its not that big of the ntr. She is not main li(im not a ntr fan)

 

[Orgitas]

As expected animations are biggest bottleneck at the moment. I dont know why he has such a boner for sfw animations, because 90 % of players dont really care. We know you are great producer PinkCake, but whatever really.

He needs to deliver with this one, because he overhyped episode 9 so much, and reviews were mostly negative.

By 2025 nvidia will release 5000 series, so I fully expect cutscenes and development will take 18 months. He cant help himself.

He doesn't care what the players want. He has routinely said he wants to do what he wants. Hence the sfw animations. Which, to be honest, I don't mind having. Adds a bit more life to the game visually. But, to each their own!

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Yup, the animations pretty much always take the longest to complete, this is standard drama.

Drama has started, at least we are at endgame now.

 

[Joshy92]

He doesn't care what the players want. He has routinely said he wants to do what he wants. Hence the sfw animations. Which, to be honest, I don't mind having. Adds a bit more life to the game visually. But, to each their own!

I'm actually glad he does what he wants
I have seen too many games get ruined when people start whining for stuff like kinks or fetishes to be added
Or for the story to be changed

 

[felicemastronzo]

Honestly, it's also quite on par with plenty of YA novels, including some of the acclaimed drivel.

I had to look up the definition because I didn't know what 'YA novels' were, google tells me they are stories for 12 to 18 year olds.

are you really comparing BADIK to stories for boys/children? i doubt that they are that bad on average.

 

[Orgitas]

I'm actually glad he does what he wants
I have seen too many games get ruined when people start whining for stuff like kinks or fetishes to be added
Or for the story to be changed

MaKe ThE nTr AvOiDaBlE

Is often the largest demand I see in other games that devs cave into.

 

[JJ1960]

I'm probably in the minority but I have not jacked off to this game ever

This is a warning to all others who stubbornly stick to Maya's path. Pursue Rio for true satisfaction.

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[ffive]

I had to look up the definition because I didn't know what 'YA novels' were, google tells me they are stories for 12 to 18 year olds.

12 year old is stretching it a bit. I was referring to stories with "young adults" as protagonists and aimed at audience of similar (or slightly younger) age. Works like The Hunger Games, The Mortal Instruments or Twilight would be popular examples. DPC's work is similar in many ways to these, including the cast, the target audience and the level of execution.

(which is one way to say yes, they are that bad)

 

[felicemastronzo]

12 year old is stretching it a bit. I was referring to stories with "young adults" as protagonists and aimed at audience of similar (or slightly younger) age. Works like The Hunger Games, The Mortal Instruments or Twilight would be popular examples. DPC's work is similar in many ways to these, including the cast, the target audience and the level of execution.

(which is one way to say yes, they are that bad)

do you think PDC's target audience is teenagers? are they his generous patreon?

 

[Darkwen]

do you think PDC's target audience is teenagers? are they his generous patreon?

Actually think about it most of his patreons are Jill simps so very likely